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California Lawmakers Pass Bill To Give Consumers Broad Privacy Rights (cnet.com)
An anonymous reader shares a report: A major privacy bill on the table in California on Thursday could reshape how Silicon Valley does business. If the bill becomes law, people living in the Golden State can tell companies to stop collecting or selling their personal data. In two votes Thursday, the state's Senate and Assembly both passed the bill in an effort to get it on Gov. Jerry Brown's desk by the end of the day. The tight deadline comes courtesy of an even stricter voter initiative that will appear on California ballots this November if lawmakers can't get the bill through by 5 p.m. PT Thursday. The bill -- AB 375, or the California Consumer Privacy Act -- turns the tech world's business model on its head by letting regular internet users ask for the data a company has collected on them and who it's sold that data to. That alone could be eye-opening for consumers. Most people understand their online activity is being tracked for targeted advertising, but we don't have a broad understanding of what data's being used. If Gov. Jerry Brown signs this bill on Thursday, Californians will have increased control over their personal data -- and one less thing to vote on in November.
One thing that seems strange to me is that the cost of living is high, but so many things we buy are priced the same. No matter how high cost of living is, a MacBook Pro starts at the same price whether you’re making a measly 100k in the Bay or 25k in Podunk, Alabama. Out of state college tuition is the same price no matter which state you come from.
Even if you have “low income” locally, there’s still so much more opportunity to be captured than others outside city bubbles.
Fuck the half assed bill they want to pass.
Let's see what they do with our data!
I know the CARB is basically the kick-start to nation-wide regulations. Here's hoping CA can pave the way for privacy for the rest of us.
So I can maybe haz privacy, but I haz to move to California to get it? Shiitttt.... if I had that much money, (and could tolerate living in that crazy place,) I'd already be there.
Actually... I wonder, should California succeed in splitting itself into multiple states, which one I'd have to live in, WERE I to move back, to get the advantages of the protection of this new law. I assume whichever Baby Cali has Silicon Valley in it. Will that be the only one or will there be others?
Actually, the whole business is academic, since whatever law they enact will be either overridden by an act of the US Congress, (by which I mean an act of their owners, wielding them like the brainless, gutless, stupid little meat puppets that they are,) striking down any state law regulating a national telecom, or struck down by the "Supreme" (hahaha) Court, which is about to become, (and I add this at the risk of getting moderated to -2) Trumperific, with AT getting ready to retire, unless Congressional Democrats find their balls, (only speculated to exist as of this writing,) and BLOCK the SHIT out of whomever that fuckwad nominates, which they totally should, in response to the bullshit the Gas & Oil Party pulled with Merrick Garland, (not that I liked or supported either him or the person who nominated him, but the shenanigans pulled around that whole thing were just pure bullshit,) and would if they had balls, but... like I said, they're only theoretical.
So to summarize: this is a neat idea, too bad you have to live in Crazifornia to benefit, even theoretically, assuming it actually becomes law there; there's some doubt this law will still protect you even if you DO live in Califuckedia, as you might be in the wrong part of it, if/when it splits, and will it matter since the federal government is going to bitchslap CA over this, since the people running it are owned and operated by the same people who own the telecoms and internet companies this seeks to regulate? In short, good luck with this, Cali.
Our reign has gone on long enough. Indeed. Summon the meteors.
Attempts to control, what other people remember about you, are tyrannical and (until very recently) unprecedented.
Once you tell other people something, the information is theirs. There is no basis to allow control of other people's heads, notebooks, or computers...
The only remotely sensible thing — for the authoritarianism-minded — is to ban discrimination based on the customer's unwillingness to share data not essential to the service provision. For example, an auto-repair facility does not need your home address — and so can't refuse to repair your car because you wouldn't fill out the form in full.
Similarly, sites like Quora may be banned from enforcing the "real name" policy.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
Why not opt-in instead? As in, companies cannot sell your personal information without your express permission.
Any sufficiently unpopular but cohesive argument is indistinguishable from trolling.
You don't have the right to use a product for free.... Many of the data collection systems are because your not paying anything. If you dont like the fact google and facebook are trackign you, dont use their products../
I am disappoint.
SpyBook and google track you even if you don't use their services.
I use noScript, and SpyBook and google scripts want to run and track you from most every web page you go to...all data points about you, collected, stored, analyzed, binned, and sold without your permission or knowledge.
This law will only protect the large already existing companies because they can handle the infrastructure changes required to abide by this law. Small startups will drown in these requests if their infrastructure isn't specifically made to support it from the beginning. Since most startups grow out of basement spaghetti coders I see them drowning in the sea of regulation shortly after their heads pop out of the ground looking for sunlight. Every startup trying to break into messaging, media playing, web profiles, etc. will be affected. Current companies that can't handle this switch will just shut down because they can't lawfully continue.
It's like california is actively trying to kill the industry that's made it such a successful state (based on economic profit) in the modern era.
Developers, make sure you're in a good long career/job/project. There's about to be a flood of experienced Si Valley coders entering the market.
... is tech.
Maybe CA should consider either creating a saner economy that could withstand the loss of tech tax dollars, or choosing not to sh1t in their own nests.
How about we compile a list of the companies with poor privacy. Without the need to state the obvious with the Zuckerberg elephant in the room, those scum bags at Google who are now officially evil, and that tax avoiding rich prick Jeff Bezos and his attempts to conduct surveillance in your bedroom...
For example:
Zomato will not allow you to remove people who follow you and have spam bots on their network. You can not hide your location from other people.
Engineers engineering a dystopia. You people make me sick.
The Assembly voted 69-0 to approve it. A short time before, the Senate had approved it, 36-0. ...but in a strange twist, tech companies aren't fighting this bill -- and some are openly supporting it.
Alright. Unanimous approval of the bill with the state legislature and no tech companies are fighting it publicly, and one of the worst privacy offenders, Facebook, is actually publicly supporting it.
Plus, I haven't found any comments from organization like the ACLU or EFF in articles about this bill on whether it is good or not. Seems odd.
If the law passes the governor’s desk, the law still won’t take effect until January 1, 2020, giving companies time enough to both fight it and prepare for it.
Ohh... This bill is shit.
But steal enough public data from the sheeple prior to saying OH hey guys lets be fair now. Doesn't matter. Moot point. The gov has enough data a long time ago. The money is literally a debt instrument not money. So private but broke, that helps? Keep "threatening" a government shutdown over and over and over? haha. Stupid sheep. They fucked you. Time to fire up the incinerators. Jews adios vaya con dios my darlings. gtfo.
Think FeinSTEIN isn't? They all suck kosher weiners and bagels.
Whirl chickens over their heads for sins. Suck fresh-circumsized baby penis. Not making this up. Go look. Get them the fuck out on sight.
Maybe Tech should consider what they will reap from their harvest.
Data mining isn'r really 'tech'.
It's salescrittership that makes use of tech.
Given that California companies are the actual source of most privacy violations, this doesn't excite me much. If Jerry Brown cracks down on Facebook, Google, et.al. directly and orders the deletion of all of the data they've ever collected, then I can start to take it seriously. Whatever, California.
German here.
You guys are so extreme on the right side, that right wing extremism (like the "democatic" arm of your corporate oligarchy) seems "left" in comparison to the completely batshit insane (like the even more neocon "republican" arm).
And I can prove it:
Look up Reagan's policy decisions.
Now look up the "democrats"' policy decisions.
Reagan is far left of the latter. QED.
I'm German and I see all the patterns of how it started here in your country. (We have years of mandatory history lessons on that in schools here.)
Economic depression, crumbling empire, people longing to feel pride again and lookinh for a scapegoat, leader that is good at sweet-talking them, while being extreme and radical at heart. (Like Bushobamatrump.)
Plus a war-based economy and concentration camps ready... err, I mean " black sites" and Cheney's massive prisons. Aaand ALL the hairs go up on me.
Please be safe, guys. We don't want you to dig in the rubble looking for food stamps, ten years from now, like we did.
We just passed sweeping privacy laws.
Basically, for multinational corporations, they just have to flip the switch and implement the same protocols as they already do here.
Here in Germany, it is already implemented.
Global corporations already have to follow it.
It is always strangr though, when suddenly everyone decides to change a thing.
Like every country suddenly found totalitarian 1894-like dictatorship fashionable.
They are definitely sitting down somewhere on a global conference, deciding this. One needs to be an insane blackeyer / anticonspiracy theorist, to delude oneself into them all being just random coincidences and them talking to each other being totally "unpossible".
Neutrality bill in the country, but a democrat is sucking telecom dick. This bill is a wank session where the only picture available is Ruth Buzzi.
All a company has to do is in the millisecond after you sign up and before you opt out, sell all your info to a "partner" who is then free to sell it as many times as he desires. "Sorry, it's out on the net and there is nothing I can do about it."