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Google AdSense Banned a Random Webpage About a 32-Year-Old Bill Because It Was About Sexual Abuse (vice.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Motherboard: Earlier this week, an algorithm made an absurd choice. Google AdSense, Google's advertising program that makes up the bulk of the tech giant's advertising revenue, decided that a web page about a decades-old bill about sexual abuse was "adult content," and wasn't allowed to display ads anymore. The page, which is at least six years old and contains strictly legislative information about a bill called the "Child Sexual Abuse and Pornography Act of 1986" on free legislative research and tracking website GovTrack.us, tripped the AdSense algorithm that decides what pages are allowed to run ads. This single, very dry page being flagged as "adult content" is most likely a minor fluke in the AdSense algorithm, but it's a perfect example of how a tiny tweak in the way a platform uses automation to enforce policies can send a ripple through seemingly-unrelated parts of the internet. The page was flagged by Adsense as "policy non-compliant" on Monday, with Google citing the page's "violations" in a summary of the AdSense adult content policy. Here's what Google told GovTrack: "As stated in our program policies, we may not show Google ads on pages with content that is sexually suggestive or intended to sexually arouse. This includes, but is not limited to: pornographic images, videos, or games; sexually gratifying text, images, audio, or video; pages that provide links for or drive traffic to content that is sexually suggestive or intended to sexually arouse." The GovTrack page contains none of these, yet the page still can't run AdSense.

110 comments

  1. Jesus by Daneel+Olivaw+R.+ · · Score: 3, Insightful

    bots/algorithms make mistakes, get over it.

    1. Re:Jesus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      And the appeal was instantly denied, even though any human loading the page would immediately see that the ban was probably a mistake, and could make sure of it in less than a minute.

      When algorithms make mistakes, humans need to be there to fix them, and they clearly aren't. That's the problem. Slashdot is going to get a bit overcrowded if the only way to get these mistakes fixed is to get a story posted.

    2. Re:Jesus by sjames · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's well understood. The problem is when there is no human oversight to correct the inevitable mistakes that bots make either before or after the fact. Had you actually read TFA, you would see that a request for a review of the page was sent and the prompt (probably also automated) response was NO.

      If you're going to let bots make the decisions, "talk to the hand" is not a very good response to questions.

    3. Re:Jesus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      bots/algorithms make mistakes, get over it.

      Why not get over bots and accept realistic limits to their usefulness?

      Both Google and Facebook (with it's political ad checking bot) are making the assumption that even if their systems are entirely dysfunctional, they can't afford to actually do their job if it can't be automated. What's wrong with this picture? Bots. (Of course, the bots will tell you that what's wrong is that this picture is pornography. :)

    4. Re:Jesus by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's what today's generation puts up with. Me, I can't get over the fact that free speech is decided by unccountable giant megacorps who can't be reined in by government because of their sheer size - not to mention, because they're in bed with said government. I'm always amazed to see what people are willing to accept these days that we weren't...

      So yeah, you get over it. I don't. Not that I or people from another era matter nowadays though, mind you: we're old enough that this isn't our world anymore. We're just here for the ride. But the ride gets scarier by the day for us.

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    5. Re:Jesus by OzPeter · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Me, I can't get over the fact that free speech is decided by unccountable giant megacorps

      I don't remember the part in the constitution where it says businesses are not allowed to restrict speech. Can you point it out to me?

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    6. Re:Jesus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I don't know if it's really a mistake. A kid reading that page will have a lot of questions, similar to if he had read an adult content story.

    7. Re:Jesus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Free speech" = you think you have a right to something on the internet, lol? Einstein-san, it's only "free" from GOVERNMENT CENSORSHIP on political bases, it doesn't mean you have any rights anywhere else, derp.

    8. Re:Jesus by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Web pages that make kids ask questions have NO PLACE on the Internet!

      *sarcasm*

    9. Re:Jesus by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1, Informative

      Monopolies are not allowed to restrict speech in such a way that reinforces their monopoly.

    10. Re:Jesus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bullshit, point to the law, lying idiot.

    11. Re:Jesus by AHuxley · · Score: 2

      Re "businesses are not allowed to restrict speech"

      That legal question got asked a few times during the ownership and building of large open spaces in different parts of the USA in past decades.
      A large section of private property open to the public. That allowed people to walk around in.
      Could free speech for faith and politics topics be allowed to exist in such an open location given the free flow of people?
      Courts in some US states did attempt to say yes in some ways, given the free movement of people.
      Later it reverted to a much more clear understanding of private property.

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    12. Re:Jesus by umghhh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It is always easy to say if it is other guy's problem, or?
      How about some obscure and unknown to you algorithm decides that you are dead and locks all your accounts? How do you even call help desk (assuming you know who is responsible and that they take calls from minions like you and me) if your mobile contract has been cancelled? There was an article here about guy who whose contract was wrongly marked as terminated by HR system - it took people 3 weeks to reverse from that mistake. Your statement shows that Milgram experiment was correct and showed real attitudes - we do not have guys in black uniforms with some odd emblems on it to tell us what to do and whom to persecute but we have our new algorithmic overlords.

    13. Re:Jesus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for the bullshit memories, but none of that is actually true in reality. Stop making shit up you boring cunt.

    14. Re:Jesus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trump will die in Federal prison, Bing will die in self-confirming retarded obscurity trying desperately to suck his own tiny GOP INCEL cock.

    15. Re:Jesus by umghhh · · Score: 1

      That is the way we go. Very unfortunate. especially as there were countless people fighting oppression from governemnt and paying high price for it. Yet now when instead on the square or in a newspaper we express our opinions in public space of FB, Google or some other big one it seems it is ok to censor. I understand that private property etc means you should have control. But if your private property is open to the public and serves as public space where people express opinions then so be it.

    16. Re:Jesus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lawl. HUMANS make mistakes and no, no one should "get over it." The people governing the system that made the mistake should admit to what went wrong, why it did and how they're going to fix it asap.

      You can get over it because you're feigning ignorance instead of working to fix the problem. Everyone else who cares about false positives can and will say something to those who matter.

    17. Re:Jesus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Zuckerberg is now the 3rd richest person in the world. The rate bastard most certainly can afford to have people monitoring things like this and to have reasonable protections on privacy.

    18. Re:Jesus by Gavagai80 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If there's no profit in manual review for adwords, then there's no reason for adwords to manually review. You cannot force another company to choose to do business with you and pay you. If they only want to pay you for webpages their algorithm is absolutely certain are safe and they're happy to lose the revenue from the questionable pages, then good for them. If you really must monetize a web page about an old law, you can find another company that'll pay you your 3 cents for it.

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    19. Re:Jesus by Gavagai80 · · Score: 1

      Which amendment says google has to pay you to speak? Does it specify how much they have to pay you, are you still being persecuted if they decide to pay you less for certain content than other content?

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    20. Re:Jesus by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      AC try the Constitution of California https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... and its "free speech" rights..

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    21. Re:Jesus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      bots/algorithms make mistakes, get over it.

      Google replied to them though.

    22. Re:Jesus by Khyber · · Score: 1

      Pruneyard Shopping Center v. Robins

      Since you're too stupid to figure it out, which is obviously why you posted as AC.

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    23. Re:Jesus by sjames · · Score: 1

      Keep in minmd, there's also no profit in support or accepting returns on defective products. If Google wants to be known as the "talk to the hand" company, that's their funeral to plan. I reserve the right to remind people that if they're hoping for any actual support if something goes wrong, they may want to look elsewhere.

    24. Re:Jesus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better idea, lazy faggot, you can just cite the part you think says what you said it did above, how bou dah you lying cunt? You're a Republican simpleton making shit up on the internet, we know your type.

    25. Re:Jesus by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      How can I utilize that to actually tell the bots to think that other pages also aren't eligible for ads?

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    26. Re:Jesus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If FB wants the non-liability protection of a Publisher vice editor, then these types of mistakes ARE censorship which should make FB liable for all content FB posts.

    27. Re:Jesus by djinn6 · · Score: 1

      The best argument from people who want FB or Google to censor seems to be "there's no law". But that's not a great argument. If there's no law covering this and it's causing problems, then maybe one should be made.

    28. Re:Jesus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it gets a little murky when you have 427 visits to the White House by Google personnel. Are they acting as an arm of the government?

    29. Re: Jesus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Think of the children!!!

    30. Re:Jesus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's because of this culture of "violence is never the answer".
      We've got these people who've completely corrupted the legal framework in their favor, and stand around telling people "we won't stop until we're dead" to their faces. Then everyone goes around reminding everybody that the only way to stop these monsters is wrong, bad, unacceptable and 'never the answer'.

      And so it worsens day by day, never crossing a line that has been erased entirely.

    31. Re:Jesus by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      If people do not censor goggle out of existence, then google will continue to censor the people. They really have become quisling corp, censors for the establishment, propagandists for the 1%, just straight up evil is as evil does, google rewards lies for profit and tries to economically destroy those who expose the truth to the people.

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    32. Re:Jesus by DethLok · · Score: 1

      Where and how is free speech being denied to anyone?

      The page is still there (I just checked the link and then searched for it using Duck Duck Go which found it) so its speech is freely available to anyone who wants to view it.

      What am I missing?

      That it's no longer monetised owing to stupid algorithms? Sure, but that's not an infringement of free speech, that's a different issue.

    33. Re: Jesus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop impersonating me, faggot! I'm the only real crass troll. Accept no substitutes. Fuck you, you lazy Nazi INCEL cunt dick Russian turd burglar jizz guzzling Chinese Bolshevik fascist SJW alt-right faggot traitor POOPY-HEAD!

  2. AI by 110010001000 · · Score: 0

    And this is what real "AI" is. Complete bullshit. And don't tell me this isn't AI, because Adsense is worth hundreds of billions (trillions over its lifetime) of dollars for Google. If they aren't using AI for this, and are using DeepMind for parlor tricks instead, then you need to ask yourself why.

    1. Re:AI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      AI = Artificial Idiocy

    2. Re:AI by F.Ultra · · Score: 1

      Why would they bother with AI? They won't increase the worth of AdSense by including a few more sites that now are falsely flagged, for Google this is a non issue.

  3. The holy trinity by Hognoxious · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Activists + technical incompetence + blind reliance on technology.

    The holy trinity of how to fuck things up.

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  4. Google- the new witchfinder general by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This proves that they (google inc that is) is not fit to manage this sort of thing.
    Years ago, a search that I did was blocked because it contained the letters SEX. It wasn't for sex but Middlesex but google decided in its wisdom that this was not allowed.
    Middlesx is the name of a county in the UK, the name of a University and a County Cricket Club.

    But the Google Puritans will keep on trying to censor our lives.

    1. Re:Google- the new witchfinder general by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Then there's that town in Lincolnshire...

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    2. Re:Google- the new witchfinder general by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

      Middlesx is the name of a county in the UK, the name of a University and a County Cricket Club.

      I hear they are going to replace "sex" with "gender" in all those places.

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    3. Re:Google- the new witchfinder general by raynet · · Score: 1

      Google has to fail safe on AdWords as they need to please the advertisers, not the site owners. And nothing was blocked and no site has any right to demand AdWord money. This kind of thing will happen until we create a real AI and it will still make mistakes, like a person would, though perhaps both can categorise this site properly.

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    4. Re:Google- the new witchfinder general by Megane · · Score: 1

      And Austria.

      Oops, now I've just banned this whole article from AdSense moneys with that link.

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    5. Re:Google- the new witchfinder general by sjames · · Score: 1

      Failing safe is one thing, but human oversight after the fact should be available.

    6. Re:Google- the new witchfinder general by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      For those who have no idea what the parent is talking about, the town Scunthorpe has terrible problems with web censorship due to having "cunt" contained within their name.

      There's a whole page on Wikipedia about problems like this.

      dom

    7. Re:Google- the new witchfinder general by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reminds me of that flight sim forum where the word "cockpit" was banned.

    8. Re:Google- the new witchfinder general by Sebby · · Score: 1

      I hear they are going to replace "sex" with "gender" in all those places.

      Wonder how they'll handle the words class, association, etc...

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    9. Re:Google- the new witchfinder general by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      I hear they are going to replace "sex" with "gender" in all those places.

      Wonder how they'll handle the words class, association, etc...

      In the brave new world of left and right wing censorship nothing will be allowed.

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    10. Re:Google- the new witchfinder general by apoc.famine · · Score: 1

      How would that benefit Google? The extra fraction of a cent they'd get for every visit to that website wouldn't pay for the position.

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    11. Re:Google- the new witchfinder general by sjames · · Score: 1

      If they gain a reputation for being unhelpful and officious, people will jump ship the instant competition springs up.

    12. Re:Google- the new witchfinder general by apoc.famine · · Score: 1

      That assumes there is competition, or will be. AdSense does not have any meaningful competition at this time. And it also assumes that more people will leave than it will cost them to staff that with humans. I'm not sure that would be true either.

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    13. Re:Google- the new witchfinder general by sjames · · Score: 1

      I'm sure a similar point was made once in Sears' boardroom...

      I don't see Google disappearing today or tomorrow, but they're not immune. And it goes beyond AdSense. They also want to be a player in the cloud and many other areas where someone may remember the level of support they got in the past when choosing a vendor.

    14. Re:Google- the new witchfinder general by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      Scunthorpe

      Ah. That makes a lot more sense. Based on the previous reply, I did a Google search for "f**king Lincolnshire" and got a combination of rants about people hating the area and pages whose descriptions looked suspiciously like porn sites, so that clearly wasn't right....

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    15. Re:Google- the new witchfinder general by dgatwood · · Score: 2

      Wonder how they'll handle the words class, association, etc...

      The same way. The Middlegender high school parent teacher rear endociation welcomes the clbutt of 1998 for its 10th anniversary celebration.

      I remember seeing an actual BBS that did exactly that (clbutt). The really hilarious thing is that if you try to search for "clbutt" in Google, unless you surround it with quotes to force an exact match, Google's synonym detection automatically uncensors it to "class".

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    16. Re:Google- the new witchfinder general by DethLok · · Score: 1

      Their 10th anniversary?

      2018 - 1998 = [number larger than 10]

      Perhaps you never graduated maths clbutt? :)

    17. Re:Google- the new witchfinder general by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      There are two hard problems in computer science: naming things, cache invalidation, and off-by-one (decade) errors.

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  5. Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why is a tax payer funded government website running adsense in the first place?

    1. Re:Why? by sjames · · Score: 1

      GovTrack.us is not a taxpayer funded site.

    2. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      oh.

  6. Hardly surprising. by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

    There's just too much internet to have any hope of filtering it manually, and yet filtering is required both for legal reasons and to avoid social outrage. So automated filtering is the only way - and we all know how well that works. It's got high rates of both false positives and false negatives.

    It's leading to a lot of conspiracy theories though. If you read politically slanted news sites, you will see that those on the right are full of stories about how Facebook and Google are striving to force conservative voices off the internet - and if you flip the other political faction, the news sites on the left run many (though not as many) about how Facebook and Google are striving to force liberal voices off the internet. Just throw in a bit of reporting bias and everyone things the algorithms are out to get their team.

    Google could turn the filtering off - but then it would be about a week before stories start appearing about how Google "supports prostitution" or somesuch, and politicians would start to threaten regulation again.

    1. Re:Hardly surprising. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Google could turn the filtering off - but then it would be about a week before stories start appearing about how Google "supports prostitution" or somesuch, and politicians would start to threaten regulation again.

      Google's continued popularity is due specifically to a combination of clever algorithms and special cases. Their search results are useful specifically because of these factors. Yet, they never seem to apply the same diligence to their content-flagging algorithms. This is hardly surprising, but still pathetic. They obviously put their least talented employees and/or clearly an inadequate number of hours into content-flagging, given all the false positives.

      Google's special sauce is content classification, and then they totally fail at it when it comes to flagging suspicious content. Clearly, the left hand is doing all the work, and the right hand is flipping us all the bird.

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    2. Re:Hardly surprising. by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 1

      There's just too much internet to have any hope of filtering it manually

      This raises the following questions:

      - Why do you want the internet filtered? Have you internalized censorship so well that it seems natural to you?

      - Why would you want Google to do the filtering?

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    3. Re:Hardly surprising. by F.Ultra · · Score: 1

      That is because the important factor for Google here is the advertisers and not the content creators, so for them it's much safer to fail on being over-zealous on suspicious content than to fail by including suspicions content since the latter could lead to fewer advertisers.

    4. Re:Hardly surprising. by F.Ultra · · Score: 1

      He never claimed that he wanted the Internet to be filtered, he claimed that the advertisers would bail out if Google didn't filter out suspicious content.

    5. Re:Hardly surprising. by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 2

      So all we need to do is figure out how to get the advertisers to bail out on Google?

      Hmmm. A worthwhile project there.

    6. Re:Hardly surprising. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Getting you a clue would be a worthwhile project "Bing" you retarded sack of whiny sexless GOP INCEL snowflakes.

    7. Re:Hardly surprising. by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      I didn't say that, though it is true. I said that companies have to censor to comply with the law, and that insufficient self-censorship results in politicians passing regulations to require it. Exactly what needs to be censored varies by country, but there's always something. Advertisers are just another reason. A completely unfiltered internet may be a nice dream for idealists, but it doesn't work like that in the real world.

  7. Not seeing ads? by toonces33 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What's the downside here?

    1. Re:Not seeing ads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's the downside here?

      remove your employer's advertisements from the web and see how long you keep your job

    2. Re:Not seeing ads? by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      What's the downside here?

      The downside is that oceans of "free" content only makes itself available to you because the people publishing it manage to scrape together a few pennies through advertising to pay for the platforms that host it for you. Stop pretending you don't actually understand this, it's embarrassing.

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    3. Re:Not seeing ads? by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Information wants to be free. It doesn't want to depend on some fucking deodorant company's ability to make us think we smell bad.

    4. Re:Not seeing ads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There were oceans of free content online before someone decided to inject advertising.
      Usenet was ad-free for many years.
      The Web was ad-free for a long time.
      Even YouTube had no ads before Google bought it.
      And virtually everything that's wrong with the modern Web is because of the addition of advertising.
      Removing advertising from the Internet would leave us basically with the parts that have value.

    5. Re:Not seeing ads? by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      Removing advertising from the Internet would leave us basically with the parts that have value.

      No, it would leave us with the parts that the people willing to pay for it find valuable. Are you willing to pay for it?

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    6. Re:Not seeing ads? by djinn6 · · Score: 1

      Based on voter turnout numbers, I'm guessing anything that's remotely important will not be paid for, except by special interest groups.

    7. Re:Not seeing ads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should just take your ad supported garbage off the internet.

    8. Re:Not seeing ads? by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      Removing advertising from the Internet would leave us basically with the parts that have value.

      No, it would leave us with the parts that the people willing to pay for it find valuable. Are you willing to pay for it?>/blockquote>

      No, it would leave us with the parts of the internet sponsored by other people (or pages put up for marketing purposes). So you'll get all the commercial pages - Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, etc., trying to sell you stuff. And you'll get all those pages that are paid for by other people, so all your political pages will be up as well.

      Content that you might want to read, like independent reviews and such, you either have to pay for, or those people simply would move on to other things to pay the bills.

    9. Re:Not seeing ads? by lgw · · Score: 1

      There are ads on the internet?

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    10. Re:Not seeing ads? by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      You should just take your ad supported garbage off the internet.

      Why do you care? You're not looking at it, right? You don't look at ANY content that is brought to you by people who pay for what it costs by selling some ads. Right? You would never do that.

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  8. Don't try posting hate speech on Facebook either! by jddj · · Score: 1
  9. Algorithms Hide Censorship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Stories like this are designed to make us think... "censorship algorithms make mistakes".
    They also make us think... "censorship on the internet is needed to protect us".
    And, "most people want censorship".

    The problem is censorship. The problem is that the algorithm mistakes are a smoke screen to cover the actual intentional censorship that is taking place. Facebook and Twittter want to make sure that anti-globalist people like Trump are not elected. Facebook and Twitter and Google want to make sure they stay in the good graces of the communist party of China.

    Face it, Facebook and Twitter have become public forums. There is no place for censorship in a free society. The algorithms are designed and tuned to deflect attention from intentional censorship, which is a threat to democracy everywhere.

  10. Dickbutt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Someone should put a picture of dickbutt on all major websites so we can finally get rid of all of those ads. Although, to be precise, dickbutt shouldn't count as sexually arousing either.

    1. Re:Dickbutt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dickbutt? wtf is that? I don't want to google that....

    2. Re:Dickbutt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here you go. It's what you always wanted but didn't know until now.

  11. Re:Jesus Is Lord by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It looks like Twitter and Facebooks are Public Forums in at least some circumstances, according to a Federal judge

    https://irontrianglepress.com/2018/05/25/presidents-twitter-account-constitutes-public-forum/

    Would it be OK if a privately owned toll bridge required drivers to remove all their pro-obama bumper stickers before crossing the bridge? Would it be OK for the bridge company to require people to remove their hateful anti-Islamic bumper stickers from their cars before crossing the privately own bridge?

    And, suppose that I'm offended by your subject line due to my personal religious beliefs (I know many sincere Christians would be offended by your use of Jesus's name as an expletive). Do you think would be reasonable if you were censored from participating on Slashdot because of my sensitivity? Why is it OK for you to offend me with your religious hate speech?

  12. Thatâ(TM)s my fetish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I donâ(TM)t know about you guys, but nothing gets me more wet then reading congressional bills and other legal documents. Ohh just writing this makes me shiver and tingle.

    Touch me in Congress!

  13. Legalese IS adult content by Vitus+Wagner · · Score: 1

    Definitely legal language is something which children shouldn't be exposed to. Otherwise they never learn write and speak on human language correctly.

    1. Re: Legalese IS adult content by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google is banning it because legal words about sex acts are indeed arousing some people on the internet.... and ITS forbidden to arouse people on pages with ads, because they would not see the ads anymore.

    2. Re:Legalese IS adult content by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Legalese not suitable for Children?

      Oh, you must mean the legal agreements for Social Media sites that are thousands of words long and require a Law degree to understand?
      Those same agreements that 13year olds are expected to sign/agree to before they can join said social media sites?
      F**k the lot of them especially the lawyers.

  14. No, we won't "get over it" by MikeRT · · Score: 2

    Bots and algorithms are trained by people. The people who manually intervene at Facebook and Google have shown a remarkable consistency in letting their personal views inform their decisions. Case in point: the demonetizing of Prager University by YouTube. The fact that Google did not intervene and fire a segment of the YouTube workforce over that manual decision is a perfectly valid data point to call into question the culture training these models.

    1. Re:No, we won't "get over it" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Prager University isn't a real university, it's a "university" that was started to specifically support views that aren't supported by reality.

      And I'm not surprised that it was demonetized, it's a serious problem that results from commercial interests funding programming via ads. If advertisers aren't interested in being associated with a given PoV, then they aren't going to buy the ads. Either they pull the ads from the entire site, or you get something like this with just certain videos being demonetized.

      It's not something that can easily be fixed unless the government steps in and demands that advertisers fund anybody that wants it. Which would be insane.

  15. "suspicious content" is the operative phrase by raymorris · · Score: 1

    You said when it comes to flagging suspicious content." I think that's an important word, suspicious. There are now more when pages than there are people on the planet. Billions of web pages to run ads on. Pages which include several words related to child sexual abuse are suspicious. Why put your ads on suspicious pages?

    More specifically, on a page that has sexual words, so seems to probably be about sex, what kind of ads would be run? Perhaps a Trojan condoms ad? How pissed would Trojan be when the screenshot was going around Facebook of Trojan advertising on a page about sexual abuse of children?

  16. HTTPS everywhere by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    HTTPS Everywhere is going to make sure that information stays in the walled gardens. Not licensed? Not visible.

  17. Proof AI threats are still way off. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When I read these stories, it's obvious there won't be any Westworld robot or Person Of Interest ASI uprising anytime soon.

    1. Re:Proof AI threats are still way off. by sjames · · Score: 1

      In some ways, yes. In others, the whole problem in Westworld is that the bots went and did their own thing incorrectly and no humans remained in charge.

  18. The best advertising... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...is word of mouth.

  19. Keep crying Hognoxious you feckless cunt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You have zero successes in business so yeah, tell everyone else how things should be done you feckless cunt. YOU would be the activist in this equation numbnuts, god you're so fucking dumb lol Trump should appoint you something.

    "Bullshit Head-in-ass-Republican Trope Czar"

  20. Re: Jesus Is Lord by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who says it is "religious hate speech"?

    Perhaps he was literally pondering what Jesus would actually think/do in this situation about imperfect 'bots/algorithms that make mistakes', and that perhaps you should 'get over it' at least 76 more times according to your count.

    Jesus would probably want you to not be so overly sensitive to some stranger on the Internet and instead learn to forgive and love the people that are trying simply to survive by writing their appy app algorithms.

    Perhaps contribute and offer a way the algorithms can minimize or eliminate false positives, so that serious matters concerning sexual abuse can be dealt with appropriately, and perpetrators can be held accountable.

  21. Half a century and the war goes on by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 2

    This reminds me of The Illustrated Presidential Report of the Commission on Obscenity and Pornography, back in 1970.

    As Wikipedia says:

    In 1969, the United States Supreme Court ruled ... that people could view whatever they wished in the privacy of their own homes. In response, the United States Congress funded the President's Commission on Obscenity and Pornography, set up by President Lyndon B. Johnson to study pornography. ... On balance the report found that obscenity and pornography were not important social problems, that there was no evidence that exposure to such material was harmful to individuals, and that current legal and policy initiatives were more likely to create problems than solve them.

    The report was resoundingly rejected and denounced by congress.

    In response to that, along with continued attempts to, nevertheless, enforce existing, and impose new, anti-pornography laws (and otherwise harass publishers of erotic images), Earl Kemp published an illustrated version of the report, consisting of the report's text but "replete with the sort of photographs the commission examined.".

    For distributing this book he was sentenced to a year in prison, and served the federal minimum of three months and one day. (This brings up the question of how one is supposed to have a right to view something it's a crime to provide.)

    Nearly half a century later the same sort of attacks on free speech continue on the new Intenet medium. And a handful of copies of the ... Illustrated Report ... are available on Amazon (with the asking price of an unused copy of over half a grand.)

    --
    Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
    1. Re:Half a century and the war goes on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the asking price of an unused copy of over half a grand

      How sticky are the used copies?

    2. Re:Half a century and the war goes on by DethLok · · Score: 1

      Damnit, you stole my joke! :)

  22. Are there enough humas to do such a review? by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

    The problem is when there is no human oversight to correct the inevitable mistakes that bots make either before or after the fact.

    Web plublication (some of it automated) occurs at computer speed and there's a lot of it. _Live Science_ estimated total internet traffic at a zettabyte per year, and that

    As of September 2014, there were 1 billion websites on the Internet, a number that fluctuates by the minute as sites go defunct and others are born.

    Are there even enough humans to check the automated classification done by Google's server farms? (If so, how would Google pay the necessary number of them?)

    --
    Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
    1. Re:Are there enough humas to do such a review? by sjames · · Score: 1

      What does total traffic have to do with publication? Most of that is reading published articles, not posting of new articles.

      But if they indeed don't have the ability to manually review, they should take a much less accusatory tone in their messages to allow for the distinct possibility that their bot is wrong. There's something about a bot being dead wrong coupled with a message that demands that the recipient must be in the wrong, especially when it is followed up with further messages indicating no beliefe in even the possability that your complaint might have merit that just doesn't sit right.

      It makes it far too easy to picture them bending down to sniff their own farts like in Southpark.

  23. Re:The holy trinity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Activists + technical incompetence + blind reliance on technology.

    The holy trinity of how to fuck things up.

    And the great part about it is, it's all by design.

    The west lost the Cold War. Ex-KGB Yuri Bezmenov tried to warn us for decades about exactly what we see today...

    Imagine state actors using ideology to destroy Silicon Valley. Ah, the truth is clear as day.

  24. I ban Google's (& other advertisers) ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    Better vs. Windows model in speed/efficiency/merge.

    APK

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  25. Registered /.ers review of the Win64 model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your software is just fine - well written, functional... I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine by mmell February 17, 2017

    Your premise that hostfiles are a good way to deal with advertising and malvertising is quite valid - by JazzLad April 20, 2016

    his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant August 10 2015

    his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg September 25 2015

    I like your host file system by Karmashock September 09 2015

    that APK guy, I use his host file by rogoshen1 Tuesday March 03, 2015

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  26. Easy to be able to blame everything on algorithms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Alphabet (Google) forever blameless, it was those darn algorithms again.

  27. A wider understanding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can expect this same kind of thing from self-driving car software as it is corrected event by event until it wipes out the entire driving population of the country.

  28. Bullshit Selective Enforcement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've seen plenty of Google Ads blocked script notifications on pages about books/movies/tv shows containing sexually suggestive themes, images, and descriptions. Many clothing advertisements and kids shows contain sexually suggestive themes as well. Everything Disney produces has aggressive sexual overtones too. All those things get Google ads/tracking. When will all of them be blocked?

  29. Decentralized Searching by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We need a new way of searching on the Internet, so private companies like Google can't monetize or censor it.
    This needs to be part of Internet 2.0.

  30. Bill, 32 years old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It took me a while to understand that the Bill in the headline was not supposed to be a man's name, but a noun meaning "law".

    (granted, I just woke up...)