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Steve Ditko, Co-Creator of Spider-Man and Doctor Strange, Dies at Age 90 (ew.com)

Slashdot reader Dave Knott brings news: Steve Ditko, the legendary comics artist best known for co-creating Spider-Man and Doctor Strange, has died at age 90. No cause of death was announced.
Neil Gaiman posted on Twitter, "I know I'm a different person because he was in the world." Entertainment Weekly reports: Ditko's most enduring characters were created during his tenure at Marvel Comics, where he worked alongside editor-in-chief Stan Lee to develop the look of Spider-Man in 1961. Jack Kirby had previously taken a swing at the webslinger, but Lee was unconvinced by that artist's interpretation of the now-iconic character.

When Spider-Man -- whose red-and-blue costume, Spidey senses, and web-shooters all came directly from Ditko -- first appeared within the pages of Amazing Fantasy No. 15, the friendly neighborhood superhero proved a surprisingly massive hit for Marvel Comics, paving the way for a solo comic series titled The Amazing Spider-Man. Ditko's influence on Spider-Man was tremendous, his often dark sensibilities informing an at-the-time rare superhero whose life was often worsened and trauma-filled as a consequence of his good deeds. The artist additionally helped conceive many of the most memorable members of Spidey's rogues' gallery, including Green Goblin, Doctor Octopus, Vulture, and the Lizard...

Two years later, Ditko delivered another Marvel icon by creating Doctor Strange, the mystical Sorcerer Supreme who furthered the comic book empire's reach into more cosmic, even psychedelic realms... As a freelancer, he continued contributing to Marvel and created cult-favorite character Squirrel Girl for them in 1992.

48 comments

  1. Stan Lee says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Ha ha Ditko! First Kirby and now you I beat you all! I have the final credit NOW! HAHAHAHAHAHA (cough) (cough) (wheeze)

  2. RIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    Steve Ditko's influence through Spiderman, along with Stan Lee, helped shape my perspective on responsibility and helping others in need. Thank you Mr. Ditko.

    1. Re:RIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you shoot your semen (web) on criminals? What the fuck is wrong with you?

    2. Re:RIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And damn the six Stan Lee videos that creimer made this year!

    3. Re:RIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thankfully you didn't keep following him through his full-blown Randian phase.

  3. Re:Trend starter. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Whatever anthro cartoon character existed first, either animated or in a comic or book of some sort (ie. Bugs Bunny, Mickey Mouse) is the first. No idea who it was...

    Probably ancient cave drawings started the idea or Egyptians if you want to sound really smart about the subject.

  4. Re:Trend starter. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Makoto Nanaya is the real squirrel girl.

    If you search her, be aware she wears underboob clothing.

  5. Re:Unlike Trump, he didn't die in FEDERAL PRISON by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unlike you, Steve wasn't a dirtbag.

  6. pre pubescent fantasy by swell · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Dr. Seuss would have been my preference when I was 5 and into children's fantasies. Nothing against Steve Ditko or Stan Lee who certainly created colorful and magical dream worlds. But by the time I was 12, I left all that behind. Heroism that depends on magic doesn't seem heroic to me when there are real human heroes who have no supernatural advantages. I don't understand why an adult would continue to devote time and energy to such foolishness.

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    1. Re:pre pubescent fantasy by Brett+Buck · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Taken to the extreme, almost everything everyone does for entertainment is pointless. Humorless bastards dwell on that, but normal people accept it and move on.

    2. Re:pre pubescent fantasy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't understand why an adult would continue to devote time and energy to such foolishness.

      Silicon Valley Comic Con 2018 had the same number of people and the same economic impact as Super Bowl 2018. I don't understand why 70,000+ people would watch a bunch of grown men beat the crap out of each other over a piece of pigskin.

    3. Re:pre pubescent fantasy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes you certainly spend your time so much better than everybody else, lol? Loser.

    4. Re:pre pubescent fantasy by aergern · · Score: 1

      We all can't be heartless bastards who kill animals on the endangered species list but you go for it. It sounds like you are in that crowd.

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    5. Re:pre pubescent fantasy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heroism that depends on magic doesn't seem heroic to me when there are real human heroes who have no supernatural advantages. I don't understand why an adult would continue to devote time and energy to such foolishness.

      What about fantasizing your limited, flawed self to have supernatural powers and invulnerability to pain and death don't you get?

      Simply put, some people are so disappointed with their lot in life that they will invest much time and money to create an imaginary world for themselves in which they lead a more meaningful existence.

    6. Re:pre pubescent fantasy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe if you'd allowed yourself a little more wonder at 12 you wouldn't think it was OK to shit on a dead person's legacy in a comment on their obituary at whatever age you are now.

      I'm not a fan of comics either, but fantasy has been a staple of literature since literature has existed, and your rude and ignorant attitude reflects very poorly on your education, parentage and character.

    7. Re:pre pubescent fantasy by serviscope_minor · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But by the time I was 12, I left all that behind.

      You have my sympathy then.

      "When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty, I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."

      -CS Lewis

      Not that I like superhero comics, but at least it's not some sort of self denial because I feel I should't like them because I'm too old.

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    8. Re:pre pubescent fantasy by squiggleslash · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is a very odd post, a smug attack on adults who read comic strips that literally boasts about having a limited imagination at the age of 5, and being unable to hold an interest in fantasy past the age of 12.

      And yet it kinda explains itself in some ways, the equivalent of a torture advocate claiming that he was beaten as a kid "and it never did me any harm!"

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    9. Re:pre pubescent fantasy by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

      Dr. Seuss would have been my preference when I was 5 and into children's fantasies. Nothing against Steve Ditko or Stan Lee who certainly created colorful and magical dream worlds. But by the time I was 12, I left all that behind. Heroism that depends on magic doesn't seem heroic to me when there are real human heroes who have no supernatural advantages. I don't understand why an adult would continue to devote time and energy to such foolishness.

      "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing."

      -George Bernard Shaw

    10. Re:pre pubescent fantasy by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      I remember feeling in jr. high how happy I was that I was a big boy who didn't get recess any more like the little kids.

      Pardon my French, but what a fucking idiot.

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    11. Re: pre pubescent fantasy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But as you grow, your play becomes more complex and imaginative. Or at least, it should.

      The problem with comics is that the plot is on par with an early teenage short novel. They are particularly well suited for adults who are functionally illiterate and emotionally stunted.

    12. Re: pre pubescent fantasy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is complexity behind your description of "emotionally stunted". Just because the average of our particularly fucked up race are irrational, inconsistent, whining little cocksuckers, doesn't mean that the rest of us cold sociopathic rational types really need to give a flying fuck about your latest rom com or how much you enjoyed your last holiday.

    13. Re:pre pubescent fantasy by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      I remember feeling in jr. high how happy I was that I was a big boy who didn't get recess any more like the little kids.

      Allow me to point you to the bit of my (very) short post you never even got to:

      When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up

      Clearly you have not got over your fear of looking childish. It's good and proper for children to want to grow up. But you're not a kid any more, I assume.

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    14. Re:pre pubescent fantasy by swell · · Score: 1

      "Besides, have you seen what's passing for a grownup these days? Apparently believing and proliferating insane conspiracy theories or bullying coworkers on social media is par for the professional course. And the U.S. president is only the most prominent example. Before she was unceremoniously dumped by ABC, Roseanne Barr had spent years using social media as a platform for a slew of bigoted comments and ideas it would be generous to call far-fetched. Meanwhile, recently fired EPA administrator Scott Pruitt amassed a staggering list of alleged ethical violations while still enjoying praise from his boss for doing a "fantastic job." And don't get me started on Gen X-er Kanye West - because where to even begin?" -https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/failure-launch-why-so-many-millennials-feel-adulthood-lie-ncna889466?cid=public-rss_20180708

      Time to grow up. Rationality has become a rare commodity in the First World. People struggling for their lives in the Middle East, Africa, India, etc have to deal with reality daily. Comfortable people who live in their parent's basements and attend Comicon don't seem interested in reality. Our current government is the result of a public that has 'more important' things to think about- sports, celebrities, fantasies, space travel, horoscopes, imaginary super heroes with sexy costumes...

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  7. At least 2000 years, possibly 4000 by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 1

    Whatever anthro cartoon character existed first, either animated or in a comic or book of some sort (ie. Bugs Bunny, Mickey Mouse) is the first. No idea who it was...

    Probably ancient cave drawings started the idea or Egyptians if you want to sound really smart about the subject.

    It depends on how you define cartoon and animated, and first.

    I have a book documenting a type of Roman werewolf-ism dating from about 0 BC. The minotaur was part man, part bull. The bible talks about a snake person tempting Eve to eat the apple, and Navajo have stories about skin walkers that probably go back 10,000 years. Rakshasa from the Rigveda is 1200 BC and might qualify.

    1. Re:At least 2000 years, possibly 4000 by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

      The bible talks about a snake person tempting Eve to eat the apple

      Fun fact: the Bible never specifies what the forbidden fruit is. Other interpretations make it a fig, pear, tamarind, grape, banana, pomegranate, wheat, psychedelic mushroom, or just a metaphor for the sex organs.

    2. Re:At least 2000 years, possibly 4000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Keep your zoophiliac perversions to yourself. Also, die in a fire.

    3. Re: At least 2000 years, possibly 4000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      None of the above.
      It was the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. So yes, it was metaphorical and no it didn't mean sex specifically.

      In simple terms, the "fruit" are the results of advanced cognitive function... morality, logic, reason, etc.

    4. Re:At least 2000 years, possibly 4000 by lucasnate1 · · Score: 1

      It's not a snake person, just a talking snake with legs. (I'm Israeli, we're legally forced to study bible, so I'm pretty sure of this)

    5. Re: At least 2000 years, possibly 4000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Knowledge" in the bible is typically meant to mean "sex". You should research the Gnosis of Kali Yuga.

  8. No cause of death was announced by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 2

    Spider-Man didn’t kill Steve, he just failed to save his life. His neck snapped when SM tried to catch him, but he’d have died when he hit the ground if he hadn’t tried. Which means that the Osborn was still the one responsible for his death.





















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    1. Re:No cause of death was announced by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm pretty sure cause of death was being 90.

  9. But the art! by doom · · Score: 1

    The quote from Entertainment Weekly doesn't touch on Steve Ditko's amazingly creative style of art, even his quickie horror-comic one-shots were far more inventive and interesting than they needed to be--

    Try doing a web image search on "steve ditko doctor strange" and you'll see it immediately. I'm more than a little annoyed that Marvel decided to downplay the original Ditko's to do revamped versions with Cumberbatch's likeness...

    And yeah, his solo work on Mr. A was a remarkable job of doing an Ayn Rand comic-book-- I wanted to photocopy those and slice them up into individual panels so I could write out individual rebuttals and commentary on every line.

  10. Stan Lee was better. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And the real brains of the operation.

    No one but comic geeks cares about this visionless pencil pusher.

  11. RIP Steve Ditko by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 3, Funny

    The original web developer. Rest well, good sir.

  12. Co op yright is now public domain for spidy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well it will be in only a few years!

  13. At least 2000 years, possibly 4000-pre-idiots. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not a flattering portrait of pre-fall man.

  14. Who gives a fuck? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Comic books are for cunts and faggots.

    1. Re:Who gives a fuck? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cunts and faggots are great - without them our dicks would have nowhere to go.

  15. Not for long by McFortner · · Score: 1

    Just wait for the next major crossover to occur and we'll find out his death has been retconned.

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