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VC Market Is on Pace for Strongest Year Since Dot-Com Era (bloomberg.com)

Venture capitalists are spending cash at levels not seen since the dot-com era, and theyâ(TM)re raising money at a pace to match. From a report: Last quarter, VCs spent $27.3 billion in the U.S., according to a report set for publication Tuesday by research firm PitchBook and the National Venture Capital Association, a trade group. That's the most in any second quarter since the group began tracking quarterly data more than a decade ago. Combined with a record-setting first quarter, the VC market had its strongest first-half-year performance since 2000. The $57.5 billion invested in startups so far this year has already surpassed the full-year total for six of the past 10 years. This year is on track to exceed the $81.9 billion invested last year, which was itself a record since the dot-com boom.

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  1. the vc market by phantomfive · · Score: 2

    A lot of this money has been coming from China: people who are afraid of their own country and don't want to invest money there.

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    1. Re:the vc market by jbengt · · Score: 1

      A lot of this money has been coming from China: people who are afraid of their own country and don't want to invest money there.

      China makes it difficult for their citizens to invest outside of China, except in certain industries like energy.

    2. Re:the vc market by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      And real estate. China buys a lot of foreign real estate.

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  2. Others by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There was a news story (60 Minutes?) that did a story on the Saudi Royal Prince. Basically, they/he are trying to divest from oil because they know that it will run out one day and they want to create other revenue streams to keep their welfare state going. And I'm sure to allow the Royal family to keep buying their mega yachts and private jets.

    The news show mentioned the money the Royal family sank into Uber as an example. I also think that they and other sovereign wealth is what's buoying equity markets around the World and why values are so out of wack - couple that with the cheap money the central banks have been pumping out since the crash of '08.

    1. Re:Others by lucasnate1 · · Score: 2

      So they are sinking money into companies that fuck up american welfare (Über), in order to improve their welfare? Damn, that's actually smart.

    2. Re:Others by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      More than that. They're sinking money into companies that increase the demand for oil, since Uber drivers use more gas than driving yourself.

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    3. Re:Others by jythie · · Score: 2

      Always be wary of investors who's fortunes are not tied to your own.

    4. Re:Others by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 1

      since Uber drivers use more gas than driving yourself.

      Ah, but what about *robot* Uber drivers?... Eh? See what I did there?

    5. Re:Others by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Basically, they/he are trying to divest from oil because they know that it will run out one day

      Actually, this is the opposite of what they worry about. They are discovering new oil fields, and new ways to keep old wells productive, far faster than reserves are being depleted. Their real concern is falling prices and a long term worldwide glut caused by over production.

    6. Re:Others by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Uber drivers use more gas than driving yourself.

      Four of my last five Lyft rides were shared with other passengers. Lyft did a good job of matching up passengers, so the route was no more than 5 minutes out of the way for anyone. I saved about 30% on the fare by clicking "shared ride", even on the one ride without additional passengers.

    7. Re:Others by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 1

      Only listen to fortune cookie. Disregard all other fortune telling units.

    8. Re:Others by jbengt · · Score: 1

      The fracking boom in the US is not a refutation of the observation that Saudi Arabia is investing in other fields (no pun intended) because they know they will run out of oil eventually.

    9. Re:Others by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 0

      Sure, and then the person giving you a ride is going to cruise til they find another gig. Or at the very least (assuming it's waiting for them) to have to drive to pick up that person and to get home

      It's possible that with shared rides it'll even out, or even be a positive. But I doubt it. The overhead when you're not in the vehicle is too damn high. It's the same reason Lyft and Uber have been shown to increase congestion.

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    10. Re: Others by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      I think it's more complicated. I Uber/Lyft to places with congested parking. No circling looking for a spot. Hard to quantify.

      The biggest benefit is getting drunk drivers off the road. Hard to quantify that, too.

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    11. Re:Others by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's true - they are no longer worried that the oil will run out. Most of the oil majors are investing heavily in offshore wind, onshore wind and solar. They're doing this because the demand for oil is declining in many places, and although the reserves they hold are valuable on paper, actually extracting them isn't very profitable and lowers the market rate, reducing the book value of their assets. Wind and solar provide up front income in terms of grants, and ongoing profit in terms of energy production and subsidies.

      If we moved to 100% renewable energy generation and surface transportation then those companies would have made serious bank building all those windmills, and there would still be a market for oil in manufacturing and niche areas like jet fuel. Oil running out is no longer an imminent problem, but eventually when it becomes a genuinely scarce resource companies which have sat on claims will be sitting pretty. That is, of course, unless we have such cheap and abundant energy that synthesis becomes economical, which they will be getting paid for.

      Moving into renewables means that whatever governments decide to do - stick with carbon belching 19th century tech because ERMEHGERD JERBS* or switch to nice, clean renewables because OMG ENVIRONMENT** - these suppliers will make a tidy profit.

      * The "Coal Creates Jobs" thing is a lie. It's just that some politicians like to appeal to the nostalgic image of a coaldust-covered miner to dupe people into voting for them.

      ** The OMG ENVIRONMENT thing isn't a lie, but even if it were I can tell you for a fact that I'd much rather live in the middle of a 1GW windfarm than down the road from a 1GW coal- or oil-burning plant.

    12. Re: Others by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      Getting drunk drivers off the road is a good thing, but that's irrelevant to the question of burning fuel.

      As for "going to congested areas", well, we're really going to have to disagree. I've seen the horrible traffic jams caused by Uber/Lyft pickups in congested areas, the 30 minute (each way) crawls through the 1 mile per hour traffic to get to/from the drop off points.

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    13. Re:Others by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Sure, and then the person giving you a ride is going to cruise til they find another gig.

      Ubers don't need to "cruise" to get fares. You are thinking of taxis.

    14. Re:Others by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      You should tell that to literally every Uber I've ever been in. They drive around a bit between propping someone off and picking up the next person. They don't pick up people off the street, but on Friday nights they drive close to the bars to be the next ride hailed. Or otherwise try to predict where the next hailers will be.

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    15. Re: Others by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      Well you do have a point there. Aside from stadiums, areas where people are likely to use the service are also likely to have no infrastructure for taxi stands or parking lots where people can wait. If they had parking lots, people would just drive themselves. I have about zero tolerance for people that double park while picking someone up.

      Though 30 minutes of straight ubers lined up sounds like a bit of hyperbole. Its probable that area would have been jammed anyhow.

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    16. Re: Others by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      Its probable that area would have been jammed anyhow.

      Except for the presence of Uber/Lyft had people pull right up to attraction rather than park 1 mile away and take the free shuttle buses. It was built with the assumption that people would do that, and the streets don't support attendees' traveling there directly and instead only support the shuttle buses (and a small percentage of VIPs/people with special needs). But they're public streets, so what can you do?

      To answer my own question used to be: "what can you do" was "don't put parking close by and instead run shuttle buses".

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  3. editor please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    theyâ(TM)re

    It's like everyone viewing slashdot is on an iPad. :/

    1. Re:editor please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The morons running this place can't be arsed to fix their shitty broken code.

    2. Re:editor please by Whatanut · · Score: 1

      So... has everyone just given up on unicode and now blames apple for using it rather than slashdot for not supporting it?

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      The look of this site hasn't changed in nearly 2 decades. What does that tell you.

    4. Re:editor please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If no unicode means no emojis then I'm ok with Slashdot not supporting it.

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      Find me one other website where this is an issue. Please.

  4. Re:It's 1999 all over again by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 2

    Indeed. The VC market (and capital markets in general) is on pace for the biggest (probably bigger) crash-and-burn since 2000. But I have faith that the current administration will handle it with their usual deft, competent aplomb.

  5. Japan Softbank, solar + bitcoin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Nah, you could read the article and realize its largely from Japan's Softbank.

    "That doesn’t include a stockpile raised by SoftBank Group Corp. The Japanese conglomerate, which is looking to spend $100 billion in the technology business, is a driving force behind the VC fundraising frenzy."

    And you could then Google Softbank and see what they're buying. Which seems to be solar and green tech and blockchain and bitcoin exchange tech.

  6. Late to the party. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ....which is looking to spend $100 billion in the technology business, is a driving force behind the VC fundraising frenzy."

    But that doesn't explain the money that has already been dumped in. It looks like Softbank is coming late to the party and they'll probably lose their asses.

    We're coming off of a top in the business cycle. Things are gonna start to slow down in a year or so.

    1. Re: Late to the party. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Consolidation and vulture capitalism, whenever a little kid dies un a clÃnic or hospital they get a bonus.

  7. Summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why is "theyÃ" trademarked?

  8. Not true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "But that doesn't explain the money that has already been dumped in. "

    They're $100 billion in so far, buying up ARM, and a big chunk of Uber, and Grab, back in March they announced $200 billion for the New York solar project.

    In contrast China's outside tech fund is a piddling $15 billion, and the US ones are tiny, e.g. Lightspeed $1.8 billion.

    Really this is Softbank's VC play here.

  9. So where are these VCs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All I see is more new "pets.com"-like things, but if you've got a better idea no VC wants to talk to you.

    What?

  10. Value by gun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fiat currency. Money from thin air, to own everything you have and need.

    1. Re:Value by gun by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      A lot of good Kuwait's money, based on gold, did when Saddam invaded.

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  11. Re:It's 1999 all over again by jythie · · Score: 1

    I am sure they will find someone to blame, and take credit when someone else cleans it up.

  12. Re:#Walkaway is a Russian tag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    No it isn't - that is the DNC in emergency danger control trying to shoot down a true grassroots movement.

    'Oh negative press - it's the russians!' Bull.

    DNC are nuts, people are walking away. Accusing everything of the russians looks stupid and no-one credible believes that shit.

  13. How can I get in? by houghi · · Score: 1

    Some people made money in the dot com era, so what could go wrong? I want in. How can I do it? Already taking a double mortgage on the house. OK, the second one the bank did not allow, so I did it with my neighbor. He is a nice gentleman from Sicily.

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  14. Re:#Walkaway is a Russian tag by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 0

    It's interesting how the post (accurately) pointing out that the troll is a troll is modded down, while the troll is modded up.

  15. Don't care about Return-On-Investment? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How is it that performance is measured only by the amount of investment, not by the return?

    1. Re:Don't care about Return-On-Investment? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because investment happens before eventual return, and if the return happens, it's largely proportional to investment. And by the time return happens, circumstances that led to it are a history long past, or at its end, and only interesting to historians.

  16. Re:#Walkaway is a Russian tag by SharpFang · · Score: 0

    ...and that's the problem with today's "investigative journalists". They *know* certain things and announce them with 100% conviction, completely regardless of factual events. If facts don't agree with their *knowledge*, too bad for the facts!

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  17. Re:#Walkaway is a Russian tag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Reading this is like someone farted in a shoe.

  18. End of boom and bust by monkeyxpress · · Score: 2

    I agree a crash is coming, but I'm not so sure about the burn. Why would governments and central banks refuse to continue propping up junk assets with quantitative easing money all of a sudden? The predicted downside of QE - high inflation - never materialized, so as far as they are concerned there are no election cycle down sides to the money printing policy.

    The real problem is that bankers have so successfully conflated paper wealth and real wealth, that the real economy is dying a slow death from poor resource allocation without anyone noticing.

    My prediction is that the next phase of this madness will be talented young people ceasing to engage in the formal economy in larger and larger numbers. The whole 'deal' of student loan debt, unaffordable housing and constant career reinvention looks far too obviously like a trap now. As the generations ahead keep piling up on the job scrap heap, many young people will conclude it is a waste of their time.

    Western countries, which can no longer even build enough basic housing for their populations, are in long term decline. It's just the same old story - greed, incompetence, selfishness. I don't think we will head to another war or revolution, but I think that poverty like we haven't seen in the west for almost 70 years is going to make a massive comeback, and people will just shrug their shoulders and say there is nothing that can be done.

    1. Re:End of boom and bust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The inflation did happen, just not in the way everyone thought. Most of the money went to organizations that invested it, so it never filtered its way into the pockets of the average person. Instead, it got invested in stocks (including stock buybacks), property, crypto, and VC funding.

  19. Re:#Walkaway is a Russian tag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    ...and that's the problem with today's "President". He *know* certain things and announce them with 100% conviction, completely regardless of factual events. If facts don't agree with his *knowledge*, too bad for the facts!

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  21. This won't end badly by Jamlad · · Score: 1

    So we've an international trade war heating up on multiple fronts *and* another dot-com boom 2.0 on the horizon. Wonderful. We are hitting that ~10yr mark again, so it's starting to look about time. Again.

  22. ... aaaaand it's gone! by mckwant · · Score: 1

    We distributed your investment, but the market reconubulated, so now it's valueless.

    Care to try again?

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  23. yay by buddyglass · · Score: 1

    Please let this lead to another bubble and subsequent market crash. I need to get out from under my oil investment.

  24. Seen this before? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I feel like that's blood money, just like drug money or laundered money, I don't trust large ammount of money concentrated, seems illegal or unnatural.

  25. Re:#Walkaway is a Russian tag by ScentCone · · Score: 0

    Yeah, those gay NY hairdressers are definitely all Russian operatives. You can't miss 'em.

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  26. Re:#Walkaway is a Russian tag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're right, nothing says completely legitimate real commentary like an off-topic troll post on a tech forum. Definitely no astroturfers here.

  27. So the bubble's about to pop? by whitroth · · Score: 1

    We all know the Trump crash is coming - I'd say this is a sign of the End Times...

  28. USD is deprecated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    we use crypto now

  29. Re: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If only we could call it the "End to Idiocy" but the future will not be that kind.

  30. Re:#Walkaway is a Russian tag by Sperbels · · Score: 1

    You forget, the trolls get to moderate too.

  31. Bubble burst? by antdude · · Score: 1

    When will its bubble burst again like the dotcom? :P

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