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Boston Dynamics Is Gearing Up To Produce Thousands of Robot Dogs (fortune.com)

Boston Dynamics, maker of uncannily agile robots, is poised to bring its first commercial product to market -- a small, dog-like robot called the SpotMini. From a report: The launch was announced in May, and founder Marc Raibert recently said that by July of next year, Boston Dynamics will be producing the SpotMini at the rate of around 1,000 units per year. The broader goal, as reported by Inverse, is to create a flexible platform for a variety of applications. According to Raibert, SpotMini is currently being tested for use in construction, delivery, security, and home assistance applications. The SpotMini moves with the same weirdly smooth confidence as previous experimental Boston Dynamics robots with names like Cheetah, BigDog, and Spot.

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  1. Fahrenheit 451... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 0

    Wowzers! It's the Mechanical Hound from Fahrenheit 451! How long before some government or mercenary firm comes up with the bright idea of arming the fucking things?

    For every one of those things produced, there should be 100 cheap EMP cannons produced imported from China as a countermeasure.

    1. Re:Fahrenheit 451... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Roomba did it first!

    2. Re:Fahrenheit 451... by Presence+Eternal · · Score: 1

      I'm not an expert in emp, but I'd imagine robots are easy to harden against anything sub-nuclear.

      As for arming these, I'd worry more about wal-mart level drones with dynamite strapped to them. I'm frankly astonished it hasn't happened yet. Or has it and no one reported on it?

    3. Re:Fahrenheit 451... by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 4, Funny

      I would be more concerned about the thoughtless owners who walk them, letting them drop little ones and zeroes all over our sidewalks.

    4. Re: Fahrenheit 451... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably because a walmart level drone cannot carry a load. You need more than 20 grams of explosive to do some harm.
      You would need a DSLR carrying drone, costing upwards of $1000. Not that that's still not cheap for someone wanting to do some harm.

    5. Re:Fahrenheit 451... by RandomFactor · · Score: 1

      This is worse then you think and needs to be stopped.

      The 1s are dangerous. Very hard to see and they can go right through a shoe. Best case you wind up with a trip to the doctor to get a stupid tetanus shot just from walking down the sidewalk.

      Also dangerous even if you do collect them properly and put them in the trash. Someone else in the family goes to push down on the trash and pulls back a hand that looks like a pincushion.

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    6. Re:Fahrenheit 451... by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      If you can come up with a cheap and effective EMP cannon, I'm sure you'll make a bundle selling the design. The military, law enforcement and airports are very interested in something to knock out drones at range.

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    7. Re:Fahrenheit 451... by zmooc · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It has been done several times but is really difficult to Google.

      Nevertheless, here's one report: https://www.scmp.com/news/worl...

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    8. Re: Fahrenheit 451... by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      You need more than 20 grams of explosive to do some harm

      If it's anti-personnel, 20 grams and an explosively formed projectile are probably more than enough.

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    9. Re:Fahrenheit 451... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They really need to attach Musk's flamethrowers on those things..and find somewhere the little Peggy to pose with them.

    10. Re:Fahrenheit 451... by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Don't worry, his bark is worse than his byte."

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    11. Re:Fahrenheit 451... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      Nah, put the design on Bittorrent -- you might not make money, but you'll do the world a favor by equalizing governments and insurgents worldwide. What better gift to give to the world than the opportunity for people to destroy surveillance states and render modern weapons impotent?

    12. Re:Fahrenheit 451... by HiThere · · Score: 1

      This is supposed to be a modified "Spot-mini", so it's not going to be big enough to carry anything heavy, and not going to be sturdy enough to survive being stepped on.

      OTOH, I hope they're less ugly than the prior edition. And I do wonder what possible utility they have. Spies, perhaps?

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    13. Re: Fahrenheit 451... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you donâ(TM)t mind ending up on a list, search YouTube for any of the following plus a charge of your liking (e.g. 20g): ETN, PETN, TATP, HMTD, MEKP, EGDN

      These are all explosives commonly created by backyard blower uppers and 20g plus anything hard is more than enough to kill one person and maybe a few. A phantom 3 with a camera could carry 200g and still have good control and respectable one way range.

    14. Re:Fahrenheit 451... by Peter+P+Peters · · Score: 1

      I suggest you watch the Black Mirror episode 'Metalhead'. That is our future right there.

    15. Re: Fahrenheit 451... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      B0Z0 the fucking moron at it again. Hell, I'll weaponize mine just so I can watch them pull you apart.

    16. Re:Fahrenheit 451... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Why not do both? Sell the design for a while, then "leak" it. Mass chaos! Wheeee!

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    17. Re: Fahrenheit 451... by denis.goddard · · Score: 1

      A quick search turns up commercial ready-to-use units, plus DIY instructions example

    18. Re:Fahrenheit 451... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, just yet another fiction. Reality always ends up being worse than dumb shows.

    19. Re:Fahrenheit 451... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is happening at least monthly around the US, but there is a news blackout.

    20. Re: Fahrenheit 451... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Woof woof! Hello, I'm Rex.
      Woof woof! Hello, I'm Rex.

    21. Re:Fahrenheit 451... by walterbyrd · · Score: 1

      One of the best Black Mirror episodes, IMO.

    22. Re:Fahrenheit 451... by Peter+P+Peters · · Score: 1

      Whenever I watch those types of disaster scenario movies I always think what would I do to get out of this situation? Most Hollywood productions are so full of holes it's not funny, but this one was one of the few that I had no answer for. Humans will be fucked against robot death drones, and the scary part is that this tech (or a simpler but just as effective variation) is already here. Scary indeed...

    23. Re:Fahrenheit 451... by KingBenny · · Score: 1

      robot dogs, lol, have you ever seen any real robot outside of movies simply *walk* ? ... robot dogs huh ? and what happened to all the strays they put away ? no good ? has to be iDog ?

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  2. Who's a good boy then? by nospam007 · · Score: 0

    None of these.

  3. Obligatory Kent Brockman by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 3, Insightful

    One thing is for certain: there is no stopping them.
    I, for one, welcome our new robot dogs overlords.

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  4. Alternative headline by Ken_g6 · · Score: 0

    Boston Dynamics to produce kilo-dogs!

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  5. The CDC says almost 800k people... by snapsnap · · Score: 0

    a year have to seek medical attention after a dog bite so replacing those animals with things that won't attack us will really help with safety and medical costs.

    Plus, the less dog poop on sidewalks and in parks would be nice. I live in Seattle, and the amount of dog poop here is just terrible.

    1. Re: The CDC says almost 800k people... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you donâ(TM)t want to see dog poop, cover the mirrors

    2. Re:The CDC says almost 800k people... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's dangerous now in Seattle to go outside because of all of the dogs especially in South Lake Union near Amazon's new HQ since so many of their employees are so selfish that they own dogs.

    3. Re: The CDC says almost 800k people... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am rubber, you are glue.

    4. Re:The CDC says almost 800k people... by Presence+Eternal · · Score: 1

      I want to get a robot girlfriend for similar reasons.

    5. Re:The CDC says almost 800k people... by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      a year have to seek medical attention after a dog bite so replacing those animals with things that won't attack us will really help with safety and medical costs.

      Nasty folks take pleasant tempered dogs, and train them to become vicious killing beasts. For shits & giggles.

      I'm guessing that your average drug dealer, pimp or NFL star will do the same with their robot dogs.

      Plus, the less dog poop on sidewalks and in parks would be nice. I live in Seattle, and the amount of dog poop here is just terrible.

      Shame on you, 1%er! For calling the homeless dog poop!

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    6. Re:The CDC says almost 800k people... by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      www.realdoll.com

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    7. Re:The CDC says almost 800k people... by sheramil · · Score: 1

      I want to get a robot girlfriend for similar reasons.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxHXa0t3sn0

      "Oh!
      Oh, how I want you
      I really really want you
      I need your love to guide my way
      Oh! oh! oh!
      Oh, how I need you
      I really really need you
      Don't try to bark
      And I'll take you to the park
      Arf! arf! arf!"

    8. Re:The CDC says almost 800k people... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I want to get a robot girlfriend for similar reasons.

      Less dog poop on sidewalks and in parks?

    9. Re: The CDC says almost 800k people... by Synonymous+Homonym · · Score: 1

      And?

    10. Re:The CDC says almost 800k people... by butchersong · · Score: 1

      I hate to break it to you... that's not dog poop.

  6. Great ... by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 2, Funny

    Oh great; now dog owners will all say

    "Oh, don't worry, my dog doesn't bite ... or go ruthless terminator and exterminate mankind. Not my little sweetie kins!"

  7. Tagged article "metalhead" by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2
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    1. Re:Tagged article "metalhead" by jschultz410 · · Score: 1

      My thought exactly. It's like BD is rushing as fast as possible to implement all of the horror sci-fi stories of the last forty years.

  8. Black Mirror guard dogs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    1. Re:Black Mirror guard dogs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Me too. End of the world is coming and it's gonna be Google who brings it.

  9. IT BEGINS!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    YOU COULD HAVE STOPPED THIS

  10. Rescue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you are going to get one of these, make sure it's a rescue and not from a breeding factory.

  11. About Time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously, it's about time BD actually has something to sell to the public besides youtube videos. They've had a long history of not really making anything actually usable and just sucking up defense funding.

  12. Woof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I hit one in my self-driving car, do I have to wait for the police?

    1. Re:Woof by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

      You don't, but your car does.

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  13. more bad links from msmash by swell · · Score: 3, Informative

    Two links- one to Fortune, one to Slashdot. Fortune rarely works for me, but right there in the article is a link to a previous, better story from Inverse, a more interesting publisher. Why Fortune and not the better article? Kickbacks?

    Where are the Youtube links? Perhaps you thought they would be superfluous in a story about clever robots?
    Inverse article: https://www.inverse.com/articl...
    Cheetah: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
    Boston Dynamics: https://www.youtube.com/channe...

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  14. well the K9 cops should use there union to keep do by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    well the K9 cops should use there union to keep the dogs they have now!

  15. Re:"Great minds think alike" (CybieDogs)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Too bad you only think of stupid shit, but then you do have the mental development of a small child.

  16. Look everyone! It's JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" (lol) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Look everyone! It's JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" (lol): The freak that STALKS me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts who WISHES he was me!

    * Projecting you're nothing but a MICROCEPHALIC moron again there "Lil' Jowie"?

    APK

    P.S.=> Answer to that question (since you don't possess the ability to THINK let alone CREATE good things others like & use as I do e.g. https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... ) = YES (lmao)... apk

  17. Can they build K-9? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With the John Leeson voice, and the nose laser?

    1. Re:Can they build K-9? by tmjva · · Score: 1

      Saddened this is the only Doctor Who reference in this whole thread.

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  18. Security? by jetkust · · Score: 1

    Isn't this exactly what we don't want it to do?

  19. Dark Mirror - Metal Head by FoolishBluntman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Has no one watched this episode of Dark Mirror on Netflix https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
    Guys (Boston Dynamics) this can't end well.

    1. Re: Dark Mirror - Metal Head by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The notion of AI in this style is nothing more than fantasy. AI of the level needed to achieve the behaviors in that episode precludes the dystopian "flaws" required for such a scenario to come about.

      Just like the terminator robots, Skynet, and innumerable half-assed incarnations of evil AI in pop fiction. It's no lie a danger than a zombie apocalypse - remotely plausible, but not really.

      Current technologies could produce hunter killer robots, but it would require teams of engineers years of development and billions of dollars to approach the Black Mirror level of inventiveness and adaptation in killing people. And there would inevitably be exploitable bugs.

      The automated factory episode from Electric Dreams is orders of magnitude more plausible, but even it suffers from the flawed notion that intelligence is necessarily an unknowable black box system, destined to inflict negative consequences through its use.

      A superintelligence explosion presents far more dangerous possibilities than rogue robots, and rogue robots need at least human level intelligence to present an existential threat. Human level machine intelligence will by its existence initiate an intelligence explosion, ergo Spotmini is extremely unlikely to present any sort of threat to humanity.

    2. Re:Dark Mirror - Metal Head by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Darkest TV Episode EVER!

    3. Re: Dark Mirror - Metal Head by Peter+P+Peters · · Score: 1

      Current technologies could produce hunter killer robots, but it would require teams of engineers years of development and billions of dollars to approach the Black Mirror level of inventiveness and adaptation in killing people.

      It doesn't have to be the exact level of Black Mirror to be terrifying, the Boston Dynamics robot dog with a built-in ballistic weapon and an accurate motion sensor is enough. And all of that already exists.

    4. Re: Dark Mirror - Metal Head by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Without a human to actively control it, there will inevitably be trivial exploitable weaknesses in the automation. AI isn't good enough yet to be terrifying. It occasionally veers into the uncanny valley, and we're in an arms race to reach "terrifying" but a glorified mobile turret doesn't quite stop my heart.

      It would be a bass backwards move to apply the intelligence needed to make spotmini a threat - there are so many more obvious applications for that level of technology that applying it to a robot dog would be the equivalent of attaching a jet turbine to a trebuchet counterweight. Yeah, it could be done, but it's really stupid and expensive.

    5. Re: Dark Mirror - Metal Head by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and yet Boston Dynamics, a military contractor, is doing exactly that...

    6. Re: Dark Mirror - Metal Head by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, they're not applying human level intelligence to war machines.

    7. Re:Dark Mirror - Metal Head by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i understand this was the least popular episode of that season, but i really liked it.
      Also immediatly saw the link between the episode and boston dynamics.

    8. Re: Dark Mirror - Metal Head by muhula · · Score: 1

      It wasn't AI. The original script for the ending showed that a family man was controlling the dog from the comfort of their home office.

      The first draft, though, afforded us a glimpse behind the curtain. "Originally, we also showed a human operator operating the dog robot from across the ocean at his house," Brooker told Entertainment Weekly.

      "There was a bit I liked, where he leaves the [control unit] while the robot is watching her while she's up in the tree and he goes and gives his kids a bath. But it felt a bit weird and too on-the-nose. It kind of felt superfluous. We deliberately pared it back."

    9. Re: Dark Mirror - Metal Head by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You think the military wouldn't deploy a weapons system with serious weaknesses? Can I introduce you to... most of recent military procurement history?

      It wouldn't have to be fully autonomous. One human controller running a pack of SpotWolves would work just fine, I'm sure...

      It makes mistakes? That just makes atrocities conveniently deniable. "Sorry it mistook that nine-year-old kid with a stick for an armed terrorist. We'll fix that in the next software upgrade".

      It has exploitable weaknesses? Don't think there are any top-flight hackers in that huddle of refugee families. Besides, they're too busy running for their lives to look for SSH 'sploits in the command circuit.

  20. Oops..I made wrong size estimate by HiThere · · Score: 1

    Apparently the thing is about 2 ft tall when standing up (presumably not including the giraffe-like neck). So it's sturdier than I was thinking. And from the pictures it's uglier than I remembered. (I wonder who made the robot I was remembering...it wasn't nearly that ugly, and was white with black spots. And it was smaller.)

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  21. Re:well the K9 cops should use there union to keep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most of them will not. They can barely reconcile the their training with the existence of these exception-dogs they aren't allowed to shoot.
    Was even a sheriff a few months back who threatened that if Marijuana were to be legalized, they'd "have" to kill all of their drug dogs because of their training.

    You'll note that the sniffer ones and the "maul complying innocents because their instincts make them "resist" and thus a criminal" attack dogs are *entirely different*. It's just that the moment they stop being cops, they couldn't be trusted not to empty several magazines inside their own stations because there's a dog there.

  22. Sony Aibo? by Synonymous+Homonym · · Score: 1

    NT

    1. Re:Sony Aibo? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not far "fetch". The Japanese (Softbank) now own Boston Dynamics. So cute is now in the line of business. Expect silicon versions of Hatsune Miku or your favorite anime character soon enough.

  23. Airlines un/loading of cargo in bottom by WindBourne · · Score: 1

    I could see these would be good for unloading/loading of aircraft. Hopefully, BD will be smart enough to approach the airlines about that.

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    1. Re:Airlines un/loading of cargo in bottom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It struggled to barely open a door and you think it will be throwing 30k luggage around? Is there going to be another one inside the fuselage stacking them as well?

    2. Re: Airlines un/loading of cargo in bottom by WindBourne · · Score: 1

      None of those robots are close to production. Iow, I would expect other designs to make it work.

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  24. Skynet figured out economic conquest is easiest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why do all the leg work when he can get humanity to build his infrastructure.

  25. Giddyup Buttercup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nuclear fallout is just around the corner and Giddyup Buttercup will be there to salvage and take up space in your inventory.

  26. how long by drewsup · · Score: 1

    Before there are robot dog fighting rings and would they be illegal??!

  27. Muffit II by marquis111 · · Score: 1

    Daggits are in short supply these days, so they should name it Muffit II.

  28. Killer Dog Robots? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We already have killer dogs. A real pitbull is more dangerous than a robotic dog.

  29. i hope they're working on a Skynet. by iq145 · · Score: 1

    They'll need it. The day of the Terminator isn't too far off...

  30. We've seen this movie by Stubbyfingers · · Score: 1

    Aaahnald eventually tries to hunt down John Connor's mother

  31. I want a larger one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    one with a saddle that I can ride to work

  32. I'll call mine "Rin Tin Can" by knorthern+knight · · Score: 1
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