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An Open Source, DIY Spacesuit Is About To Get Its First Life Or Death Test (reddit.com)

dmoberhaus writes: Pacific Spaceflight is a small group of volunteers that has spent the last decade developing an open source, DIY spacesuit in their members' living rooms. This fall its creator will fly to over 60,000 feet in a hot air balloon, known as the Armstrong Limit, the point at which exposed body fluids will boil away if not protected in a pressured vessel. [A post on Medium provides a] deep dive into the story of Pacific Spaceflight and how to build your own spacesuit. Here is an excerpt from the report: There are two main types of spacesuits: Intravehicular activity (IVA) suits worn inside spacecraft, and those worn outside for extravehicular activities (EVA). IVA spacesuits are mostly there as a backup in case of an emergency, like the sudden loss of pressure in a spacecraft. This makes them inherently simpler since they don't have to account for things like radiation exposure and the gloves can just be rubber gloves similar to those you might use to wash your dishes. [...] Smith's first suits were made by modifying old scuba diving suits to fit his needs. Yet as he became more familiar with pressure suit design and his own requirements, he started to assemble everything from scratch. These days, he and the other Pacific Spaceflight volunteers cut their own fabric and pretty much make everything on their own or repurpose common household items as necessary (Smith said one of the few things the group can't make on its own is the suit's zippers). Smith will release the designs of the spacesuit as an open source blueprint once the suit is perfected and properly tested. The final version will reportedly cost less than $1,000 of materials to build.

28 comments

  1. Will he be live streaming this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why risk your life like this? Seems like insanity to me.

    1. Re: Will he be live streaming this? by batukhan · · Score: 1

      Instant international publicity

    2. Re:Will he be live streaming this? by weilawei · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Publicity. The relevant aspects of the suit as a pressure vessel can be tested on the ground using standard compressors, vacuum pumps, and heat exchangers. Add in particle sources and you should have most of your ambient environmental conditions covered. Then you take it to pieces in the lab and see what broke down.

      On the other hand, cost for a flight might actually be cheaper than the analytical instruments. You still need to take apart the suit in the lab afterward.

  2. 2018 DARWIN Award Nominee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    enough said

    1. Re:2018 DARWIN Award Nominee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      enough said

      And what award will we give the fucking moron who approved the insane NASA spacesuit budget if this is proven to be just as good at a fraction of the cost...

    2. Re:2018 DARWIN Award Nominee by Jzanu · · Score: 0

      What do you mean, "just as good" in what environment? This publicity test is nowhere near actual vacuum of space, nor the temperatures experienced either in heat or cold. This suit is an amateurs vanity project given attention because Slashdot has gone to hell since it was sold (for the fourth time?) and the original editors all left.

    3. Re:2018 DARWIN Award Nominee by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      He's certainly done a lot of other testing. I'm not saying it's not dangerous, but he's done less dangerous tests (vacuum chambers, underwater, 25,000 ft in the air.)

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    4. Re:2018 DARWIN Award Nominee by Megol · · Score: 0

      Do you give that to Tesla* drivers too? Because no matter how many tests have been done on any safety critical equipment in the end there will always be a "life or death" test.

      (* selected for impact, replace with whatever brand of car you want. Yes, I'm microtrolling)

    5. Re:2018 DARWIN Award Nominee by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Do you give that to Tesla* drivers too? Because no matter how many tests have been done on any safety critical equipment in the end there will always be a "life or death" test.

      The most dangerous part of a Tesla is the loose nut behind the steering wheel.

      (* selected for impact, replace with whatever brand of car you want.

      ditto.

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    6. Re:2018 DARWIN Award Nominee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The most dangerous part of a Tesla is the loose nut running the company.

      Fixed that for you.

    7. Re:2018 DARWIN Award Nominee by ItsJustAPseudonym · · Score: 1

      Regardless of the practicality or impracticality of the suit, this definitely seems to qualify as news for nerds.

    8. Re:2018 DARWIN Award Nominee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought we liked libre and open source stuff. This could mark an improvement or a change in the way we build space suits. No way to tell until the test run.

      Also note the grandfather wrote "if". You know what that means, right?

    9. Re:2018 DARWIN Award Nominee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      copying lessons already learnt is a fuck load cheaper than experimenting and learning the lessons yourself. NASA unlike this guy also required thousands of hours of testing before they risked a human being.

    10. Re: 2018 DARWIN Award Nominee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From the perspective of fossil fuel and combustion car companies you're certainly correct.

  3. And what's that in metric? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Staying backwardian is a choice you don't have to stick with.

    1. Re:And what's that in metric? by SpaceDave · · Score: 1

      Without getting into the metric debate, how hard is it to at least add the metric value in parentheses after the US units? Doing so means you're suddenly catering for the whole world rather than a small fraction.

  4. Have Space Suit—Will Travel by nospam007 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Beware the wormfaces!

  5. Well thank god it's open source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I hate closed-source garments. I worry constantly about the security vulnerabilities that might be lurking in my shoes.

    1. Re:Well thank god it's open source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I hate closed-source garments. I worry constantly about the security vulnerabilities that might be lurking in my shoes.

      So do I. Did I tell you about the time I found a hole in my SOCKS?

    2. Re:Well thank god it's open source by fattmatt · · Score: 1

      I hate closed-source garments. I worry constantly about the security vulnerabilities that might be lurking in my shoes.

      So do I. Did I tell you about the time I found a hole in my SOCKS?

      wow.

  6. Can we PLEASE by bferrell · · Score: 1

    Stop putting up Medium links?

    I've gotten totally over the incessant nagging

  7. Copying is a tad easier than the unknown by raymorris · · Score: 1

    Copying from everything NASA has learned over the years is a bit easier than coming up with everything for the first time.

    That said, when you're spending other people's money, taxpayer money, some people tend to be much less frugal than when they are spending their own money. NASA, like nearly all government, has certainly had some wasteful spending.

    1. Re:Copying is a tad easier than the unknown by sjames · · Score: 1

      To be fair, NASA's new suits also got to copy from everything NASA has learned over the years.

    2. Re:Copying is a tad easier than the unknown by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      NASA is designing a suit to survive a short duration at just the edge of the atmosphere. It has to be guaranteed to last for weeks/months in space without failures while exposed to the vacuum of space, radiation and the deterioration caused by extreme cold, . Lets see if this suit can live up to those same standards. I doubt it!

  8. John Glenn " by grep+-v+'.*'+* · · Score: 1

    'I felt exactly how you would feel if you were getting ready to launch and knew you were sitting on top of 2 million parts -- all built by the lowest bidder on a government contract.'
    Attributed to John Glenn

    In this case, you're you own bidder and buyer. And implementer. And user. At least you're really getting into your project.

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  9. Yeah! Although why not test on the ground first? by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 1

    From the article: "Space doesn't belong to the military industrial complex," Smith told me. "It belongs to humanity, it belongs to anyone who wants to go there. There's an extreme frustration in me that there's an entire universe out there to explore and the only way to get there is through these existing systems, these highly formalized systems that don't have a whole lot of incentive to make it easy to get there right now. I think that's a good enough reason to try this."

    Nice to see some steps towards what we encouraged in 2001:
    https://www.kurtz-fernhout.com...
    "The continued exponential growth of technological capacity since the 1970s has removed most technical limits to group collaborations on space settlement issues. To remove social limits, groups must be explicit about the licensing terms of individual contributions and the collected work, for example putting their contributions in the public domain, or under a license like the BSD license or GPL as a conscious act. The most successful space related collaborations in the future will be ones that make these principles part of their daily operations. One result of such collaborations will be a distributed library of simulations and knowledge including specific detailed designs for self-replicating space habitat systems."

    Kind of difficult sometimes to see how much design culture has changed since then one day at a time -- but it has (e.g. see also the other slashdot story from today on the move to open RISC-V cores...)

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  10. How is this open source? by kbonin · · Score: 1

    I see where I can pay to wear their suits, I see data from tests of their suits, I see pictures of their suits, but I do NOT see data on how to build my own suit... Not that I need to, but I'd love to see the technical information behind all this. So again, how is this open source? Did I miss a link hiding somewhere?

  11. Are They Flat Earthers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am sure that there must be some kind of flat earther funding in this.