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FCC Admits It Was Never Actually Hacked (techcrunch.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from TechCrunch: The FCC has come clean on the fact that a purported hack of its comment system last year never actually took place, after a report from its inspector general found a lack of evidence supporting the idea. Chairman Ajit Pai blamed the former chief information officer and the Obama administration for providing "inaccurate information about this incident to me, my office, Congress, and the American people." It was so galling to everyone looking for answers that the GAO was officially asked to look into it. The letter requesting the office's help at the time complained that the FCC had "not released any records or documentation that would allow for confirmation that an attack occurred, that it was effectively dealt with, and that the FCC has begun to institute measures to thwart future attacks and ensure the security of its systems." That investigation is still going on, but one conducted by the FCC's own OIG resulted in the report Pai cites.

Pai's statement was issued before the OIG publicized its report, as one does when a report is imminent that essentially says your agency has been clueless at best or deliberately untruthful at worst, and for more than a year. To be clear, the report is still unpublished, though its broader conclusions are clear from Pai's statement. In it he slathers Bray with the partisan brush and asserts that the report exonerates his office: "I am deeply disappointed that the FCC's former [CIO], who was hired by the prior Administration and is no longer with the Commission, provided inaccurate information about this incident to me, my office, Congress, and the American people. This is completely unacceptable. I'm also disappointed that some working under the former CIO apparently either disagreed with the information that he was presenting or had questions about it, yet didn't feel comfortable communicating their concerns to me or my office. On the other hand, I'm pleased that this report debunks the conspiracy theory that my office or I had any knowledge that the information provided by the former CIO was inaccurate and was allowing that inaccurate information to be disseminated for political purposes."
UPDATE: The complete Office of Inspector General report has been released, refuting claims that a cyberattack was responsible for disrupting the FCC's comment system last year.

214 comments

  1. How does it debunk it? It's worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pretty much it makes it clear you, as the lead of the FCC, couldn't tell the difference between what was obviously a hacked system even when presented evidence within days of it occurring from multiple sources... and a plausible situation. You are nothing more than the same thing we've all learned to expect from this administration. A joke.

    1. Re:How does it debunk it? It's worse by bobbied · · Score: 0

      I don't see this as "worse". They former CIO who made the improper report has been let go and after the GAO investigation the record is being set straight.

      This is how things like this should be handled. If you cannot do your job, you get canned. So if you report that you got hacked, when it wasn't a hack that caused the problem, you get canned. Just like you'd get canned if you got hacked because you didn't secure your system per standard industry practice.

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    2. Re: How does it debunk it? It's worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do you propose that the current administration deal with inept individuals hired by the previous administration? The obvious answer would be to fire everyone hired by the previous administration, and rehire more qualified staff, but I'm sure you leftists would cry about that, too.

    3. Re: How does it debunk it? It's worse by guruevi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This administration? Wake up, Obama is no longer in office, we elected a golden pumpkin.

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    4. Re:How does it debunk it? It's worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      He wasn't 'let go', he left on his own, long, long, long before the report that implicated him. Even if he was the one to blame (he wasn't), it doesn't change the fact that, first, the FCC's comment system was a POS that shouldn't be used to get public opinion, and second, that someone used the fact the POS comment system failed to get partisan legislation passed. Sounds like an inside job to me.

      And of course, who's to blame but Obama! Man that guy sure does get around.

    5. Re:How does it debunk it? It's worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Interesting, you make it seem by your wording as if the former CIO had been let go recently, yet he left the office over a year ago. An entire year the FCC has had to look into this and yet they chose not to. Chairman Pai vehemently dislikes ex-Chairman Wheeler, under whom this CIO was appointed, and yet took the man's word at face-value and didn't bother to look into the issue after dismissing him? Oh wait,t hey didn't dismiss him, he left.

      Now, this whole thing about a DDoS... I really don't expect Pai, who honestly knows as much about technology as my butthole knows about how skittles taste, to understand how a high-volume flood of people attempting to access the comment system all at once could bring it to its knees. Considering Bray is the person who modernized the FCC's computer systems front to back (and reduced government spending on legacy IT support by 35% in doing so), I think he knows exactly what he is talking about, but may have communicated it poorly and said "Its similar to a DDoS attack." when trying to explain it to the commissioners.

      But, who knows? I mean, its not like he could possibly take Pai's words today as slander or libel and sue and get those emails put into the public record for all to see. I mean, that kind of accusation is pretty damning for someone in the private sector trying to hold down a job at the c-level. Calls into question everything he does professionally, words like that. So, we'll see.

      Notice no one has shared said improper report to date though. Just keep it in mind when you try to defend Idjit Pie from now on.

    6. Re: How does it debunk it? It's worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      explains why 'murkin gov is inefficient. they're unionized.

    7. Re: How does it debunk it? It's worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We elected a traitor who will die in Federal prison.

    8. Re: How does it debunk it? It's worse by BrianMarshall · · Score: 1

      ...we elected a golden pumpkin.

      What is the deal with the orange face? Is it an improvement over the previous orange hair?

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    9. Re: How does it debunk it? It's worse by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Keep in mind that the political left heavily supports the idea of unionization.

      Infowars called - they want you back

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    10. Re: How does it debunk it? It's worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmm, Skittles suppository? Interesting idea...make it so.

    11. Re: How does it debunk it? It's worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone seen the average performance review in a company? It's random. The only indicator of performance is that your manager likes you and doesn't want you fired yet.

      The corporate way. We don't need unions because corporations are snowflakes only out for the good of the people. This is coming from someone that never worked for a dollar, and probably hasn't even done a paper round.

    12. Re: How does it debunk it? It's worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DON'T taste the rainbow.

      Just don't.

    13. Re:How does it debunk it? It's worse by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 0

      Technically, what happened actually does fit the definition of a DDoS attack. Oliver found a deep link that wasn't supposed to get much traffic, exposed it and encouraged people to send lots of traffic there.

      If they wanted to they could keep saying it was a hack which makes me wonder why they don't.

    14. Re: How does it debunk it? It's worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

      Keep in mind that corporations have separated the citizenry from their means of survival, in a game that forces them to work or die. Before unions, workers died in a multitude of occupations, suffering so much that the government had to step in and institute limitations such as the 40-hour work week, holiday and sick time, overtime rules, breaks and lunches, and other basic rights that many workers take for granted today.

      Under capitalist rule, you are a corporate slave. A resource to be exploited for the financial and political gain of the elite. History has shown that capitalist greed is immoral, and companies will mistreat as many people as it takes to extract more money from their processes.

      The problem is seeing people as numbers or workers instead of individuals, with their own goals, desires, and capabilities. Capitalism is not capable of seeing the human side of its processes, and exists solely to extract labor and money from the populace. They are interlopers, draining our natural resources and energy for the sake of power and money.

      Who gives a fuck if a company doesn't like my work. They don't even regard workers as human, what consideration do they deserve!?

    15. Re: How does it debunk it? It's worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Infowars called - they want you back

      I'm not sure if you're being voluntarily ignorant, or you're just letting your personal opinions take over your ability to read poll data.

    16. Re:How does it debunk it? It's worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If that was true, that's defamation, and pretty easy to prove wrong.

    17. Re: How does it debunk it? It's worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In before "communism is so much worse" relative privation. Because you know, there's no possible middle way between the worst kind of capitalism and communism like seen in the USSR, China, NK, and so forth.

    18. Re:How does it debunk it? It's worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I do wonder why the FCC continued to claim that it was a DDoS after the CIO was already gone.

    19. Re: How does it debunk it? It's worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most c-level execs are corrupt as fuck, and they all know it. The entire game they play is "us vs them" and to kick the boots of the board. Don't ever trust a c-level execs because I assure you they are not on your side.

    20. Re:How does it debunk it? It's worse by bickerdyke · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Technically, what happened actually does fit the definition of a DDoS attack. Oliver found a deep link that wasn't supposed to get much traffic, exposed it and encouraged people to send lots of traffic there..

      Not if the traffic is intended to actually use the service offered at link. DDos attacks try to block servers by keeping connections open as long as possible WITHOUT transmitting data.

      Didn't Oliver merely encouraged people to use their free speech by using a feedback form that was especially intended for this kind of feedback?

      I would not want to give businesses or agencies a blueprint for handling critics by setting up a web form on a server too weak to handle it and then sue for hacking when some user feedback brought it down....

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    21. Re: How does it debunk it? It's worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obama's responsible? ... really?

      Do you even notice the cartoonish levels of stupid in your argument?

    22. Re: How does it debunk it? It's worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, Oliver tried a DDOS attack at the human level, not the machine level. His intent was to inject so much garbage into the system that the humans couldn't read all of it. It's legal, and stereotypical of ignorant activists.

    23. Re: How does it debunk it? It's worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's bitztream the autism-hating, custom EpiPen-hating, Musk-hating, Qualcomm-hating, Firefox tabs-hating, Slashdot editors-hating Slashdot troll!

    24. Re: How does it debunk it? It's worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's bitztream the autism-hating, Musk-hating, custom EpiPen-hating, Qualcomm-hating, Firefox tabs-hating, Slashdot editors-hating Slashdot troll!

    25. Re: How does it debunk it? It's worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Keep in mind that the political left heavily supports the idea of unionization. A key principle behind unionization is the idea that individual workers aren't responsible for their own work performance. A low-talent and incapable worker will be compensated just as well as the most talented and most capable worker. The worst worker also can't be fired or otherwise held responsible for their terrible performance. Even when a union may not be involved, those on the political left still apply the concepts of unionization, which is why they reject the idea of expecting high performance from workers, and why they also reject the idea of holding workers responsible for their performance.

      Well, this explains why the police continue to do such a piss-poor job. I assume you are against the police union?

    26. Re: How does it debunk it? It's worse by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

      Okay. Let's start with Ajit Pai. He is inept and was hired by the previous administration.

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    27. Re: How does it debunk it? It's worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do you propose that the current administration deal with inept individuals hired by the previous administration?

      I don't know, but the Obama administration seemed to make it work.

    28. Re: How does it debunk it? It's worse by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      > Infowars called - they want you back

      I'm not sure if you're being voluntarily ignorant, or you're just letting your personal opinions take over your ability to read poll data.

      I'm not sure if you are confusing me with someone who bases much of anything on "poll data".

      If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.

      Chill, my dude. You have me more convinced than ever that you need to be on infowars.

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    29. Re: How does it debunk it? It's worse by Rhipf · · Score: 1

      So by exposing the link that takes you to that actual comment form (instead of taking the circuitous route the FCC set up) is trying to set up a human level DDOS?
      His intent was to let people actually comment on the proposed removal of net neutrality instead of spending their time looking for the actual comment form.

    30. Re:How does it debunk it? It's worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oliver found a deep link that wasn't supposed to get much traffic, [...]

      "Deep link" my ass. It was the intended feedback form for the issue.

      The only DDoS made was made by the impostors posting form messages with lots of different real identities, wanting to counter anything John Oliver had incited people to say.

      For being a l33t 5p33k guy you are pretty oblivious.

    31. Re:How does it debunk it? It's worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And of course, who's to blame but Obama! Man that guy sure does get around.

      Yeah, being president for 8 years will do that. Obama wasn't perfect and made mistakes. Is it really that hard to believe?

      You got to love it. Liberals give Obama credit for the economy he couldn't seem to get off the ground for 8 years until Trump became president, but any mistakes, from Obama-era officials no less, are definitely not Obama's fault. You people are a joke . . .

    32. Re: How does it debunk it? It's worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are willfully blind and stupid.

    33. Re: How does it debunk it? It's worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bullshit. He isn't inept he is corrupt. He was not hired by the prior administration. He was nominated at the request of the Republican's in Congress because that is how the FCC works. Once our current president, The Dotard in Chief, got the job he nominated Idjit Pie for chairman.

    34. Re:How does it debunk it? It's worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DDOS is not hacking; it's overwhelming a service.

    35. Re:How does it debunk it? It's worse by SSA-Ed · · Score: 1

      The real purpose of any government worker is to grow their budgets !!

    36. Re: How does it debunk it? It's worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      better than a smut black one

    37. Re: How does it debunk it? It's worse by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      "suffering so much that the government had to step in and institute limitations such as the 40-hour work week, holiday and sick time, overtime rules, breaks and lunches, and other basic rights that many workers take for granted today."

      False. Leftist militant workers banded together and continually inflicted violence and destruction, and what you cite is the result.

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    38. Re: How does it debunk it? It's worse by slashdotwannabe · · Score: 1

      That is one type of DDoS attack. There are many different types. A simple ping flood that runs on multiple hosts us also a DDoS. As was posting a link to slashdot back in the day.

      And this flood of legitimate users attempting to make know their opinions on the matter at hand was none of those types of DDoS. This is no way, shape or form was a DDoS; it was inadequate server provisioning & scaling, plain and simple. The resources at hand were not adequate to the demand.

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    39. Re:How does it debunk it? It's worse by omnichad · · Score: 1

      If you want to get specific, he actually reduced server load by not bogging down the server with requests for superfluous pages. That it encouraged more action is just a side benefit.

    40. Re:How does it debunk it? It's worse by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 1

      My point is that calling it a hack is merely stretching the truth, and with all the blatant lies coming out of DC lately it's curious that this is what gets apologized for.

    41. Re: How does it debunk it? It's worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're one to talk...

    42. Re: How does it debunk it? It's worse by mrclevesque · · Score: 1

      Seems more accurate to say that like capitalism, communism and socialism naturally fail without regulation.

  2. Well... This is Good news... by bobbied · · Score: 0

    Isn't it? Well?

    Somebody messed up and he got himself canned at least.

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    1. Re:Well... This is Good news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is as good news as Trump declaring that collusion isn't a crime. (It means jack shit)

    2. Re:Well... This is Good news... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1, Funny

      Somebody messed up and he got himself canned at least.

      No, he's still president.

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    3. Re:Well... This is Good news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fall guy. Probably wasn't even fired. Nice severance package on the way out the door, and probably employed by a large teleco now. That'll teach him!

    4. Re:Well... This is Good news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh no, the economy is growing and the unemployment rate is the lowest it's been in years! Whatever will we do!
      Peace with North Korea? How terrible! PEACH FO' FIVE!

    5. Re: Well... This is Good news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The economy was already growing(despite Trump's exhortations to the contrary), unemployment is being counted the same way as it was before, which Trump himself said was a lie, and our relationship with North Korea is the same as it was before, despite Trump's claims to meaningful accomplishments, the net result of his summit in Singapore was a waste of tax dollars.

      Oh wait, the deficit is growing, Puerto Rico is still being ignored, and the Turnip administration is whining about its own child internment policies forcing it to expand the effort to reunite families.

    6. Re: Well... This is Good news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Nearly all the benefit of the "improving" economy is going to the already rich (real wages adjusted for inflation have stagnated since the 70s), and NK is still building nukes. Every "accomplishment" claimed by the retard in chief thus far has been a sham perpetrated on the ignorant.

    7. Re:Well... This is Good news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I can make it seem like I'm successful even if I'm not as well, at least for a short time. I simply mortgage my house and go on a credit fueled spending spree, which is exactly what the Federal government is doing. And you'd have to be living under a rock miss the fact that the North Korea "peace deal" is not really going anywhere. The "demolition" of the nuclear testing site was likely a PR stunt and whenever anyone talks about actions instead of loose promises the North Koreans feign outrage.

      Bloomberg
      Al Jazeera

    8. Re:Well... This is Good news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The US is too accustomed to its way of dealing with small countries. They concede nothing and demand unilateral disarmament, or else.
      This doesn't work well with a country that has some delusions of grandeur but also declared that they wouldn't finish like Libya and Iraq.

      I wonder all this will end.
      End result lol the US will sanction the whole planet, and the rest of the world will ignore it and do as they please. Mexico will build the wall, to keep the US out.

    9. Re: Well... This is Good news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > unemployment is being counted the same way as it was before,

      That doesn't mean what you think it does.

    10. Re:Well... This is Good news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh no, the economy is growing and the unemployment rate is the lowest it's been in years! Whatever will we do!

      Consider that this has been accomplished by an unpresidented increase in the deficit during a time of nearly full employment? Consider what the exploding debt and the concomitant rise in interest rates to service that debt portend for the inevitable downturn of the business cycle? Worry how the credit binge has created a lack of financial agility that could be disastrous if there's a bump in the road, perhaps due to a tariff war? Consider that the man at the helm is well acquainted with bankruptcy and a credit rating so poor that no one in the US would lend him money?

    11. Re: Well... This is Good news... by Ogive17 · · Score: 2

      In my region unemployment is very low however wages are below 2007 levels despite a significant increase to cost of living. 70% off jobs do not pay enough to raise a family of 3. So yay, at least we have jobs.... even if they don't pay all the bills.

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    12. Re: Well... This is Good news... by Rhipf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You skipped the most important part of his point:

        unemployment is being counted the same way as it was before, which Trump himself said was a lie

    13. Re: Well... This is Good news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In my region unemployment is very low however wages are below 2007 levels despite a significant increase to cost of living. 70% off jobs do not pay enough to raise a family of 3.

      You can thank Obamacare for that. It's been difficult for many businesses to stay afloat in the toxic economic environment courtesy of Obama.

      While Trump has massively reduced taxes and regulation on businesses, which has resulted in an economy on the upswing, it will take time to undo the last decade of waste and stagnation. If you want to see things continue to improve, I suggest you vote Republican this election.

    14. Re:Well... This is Good news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      David Bray announced in June 2017 he was leaving the FCC for the newly created role of chief ventures officer at the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, and then in Aug 2017 announced that instead he would become the executive director of the People-Centered Internet Initiative.

      He cited the upcoming adoption of a baby, and desire to have more of a home life, as a major factor in the switch.

      You might notice that this was over a year ago...

    15. Re: Well... This is Good news... by orgelspieler · · Score: 0

      When I tried to show the GDP growth numbers (as published by Trump's Department of Commerce) to a friend to explain why, no this isn't the best economy since before the recession, he just shambled away muttering something about the Deep State (TM). Facts shall never get in the way of peoples love for Dear Leader!!!

    16. Re: Well... This is Good news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is so much bullshit. Obamacare didn't do this. I cant wait until you're old, sick and uninsurable so I can tell you you deserve it.

    17. Re: Well... This is Good news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is so much bullshit. Obamacare didn't do this. I cant wait until you're old, sick and uninsurable so I can tell you you deserve it.

      We already have Medicare for the "old and sick". Try to keep your socialist, government programs straight, comrade.

      And, another thing, I will always deserve the healthcare I receive because I actually paid for it. Those who fail to work for their own healthcare (and who are able) should be relegated to charity.

      Speaking of bullshit, you might try adding something substantive to the discussion next time.

    18. Re: Well... This is Good news... by Ogive17 · · Score: 1

      Please, all those tax breaks resulted in a few people getting a 1 time bonus and the increased profits going to the shareholders.

      Luckily for me, my wife and I live well below our means and have significant investments despite being late 30s/early 40s. Our goal is to retire in our mid 50s and live only off investment income. This "boom" has helped us out but we're already in the top 15% of income earners in the country. Poor people are getting more poor. This is a trend that has been going on for a long time so I'm not blaming any one party.. however Republicans are less discrete about their intentions of funneling more money to the already wealthy.

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    19. Re: Well... This is Good news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The left after the election and after GDP growth of 4+ percent has materialized: "Trump had no hand in this, it was all Obama"

      Obama himself before the election: "any GDP growth above 1.x percent is impossible, Trump has no magic wand."

      Was Obama right or not? Also, if the economy was instead down 2%, would you ascribe it to Obama or blame Trump? Notice that you make partisan assumptions first and then reinterpret reality to the facts instead of the other way around?

  3. consequences of manipulation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well obviously this was done as a means of manipulation in relation to the network neutrality vote.

    No consequence means 100% legality. Whether on the books or not it sets precident.

    Some public servant who has hair on their testiculars and perhaps some semblance of remaining spine should take action. HAHAHAHAHA oh jeez almost pee'd myself a little there with that joke.

    1. Re:consequences of manipulation by bobbied · · Score: 1

      You did catch that this was blamed on the former CTO right? Seems that the person responsible no longer works at the FCC, which is as it should be.

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    2. Re:consequences of manipulation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always assumed Paid is the guy who invented the supposed hack. It was super convenient for him while he was promoting the end of net neutrality.

    3. Re:consequences of manipulation by king+neckbeard · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think you mean that they are using someone who has been gone for a year as a scapegoat to hide their blatant lies.

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    4. Re:consequences of manipulation by bobbied · · Score: 1

      I think you mean that they are using someone who has been gone for a year as a scapegoat to hide their blatant lies.

      Let's call it blaming the mis-information on an Ex-Employee. Happens all the time.

      BTW - A lie is "an intentionally false statement" so please step back from calling somebody a liar until you can prove they knew what they where saying wasn't true and they indented to mislead when they made it. Being mis-informed and making a statement that turns out to be false, does not make one a liar, nor does saying something that can be interpreted in a way that makes it untrue. In order to call someone a liar you have to prove that the INTENT was to mislead, in which case, even a TRUE statement can be a lie if it omits contextual information necessary to understand the actual truth.

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    5. Re:consequences of manipulation by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

      It's a lie. They knew that it wasn't a DDoS attack the whole time. They intended to deceive the public, because the truth makes them look bad.

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    6. Re:consequences of manipulation by bobbied · · Score: 0

      Citation? Remember, you have to prove they knew the truth when they made the statements or you are doing exactly the thing you accuse them of and are calling them liars for. You cannot just say "Because I believe they are liars they are" you need to prove it, or you become the very thing you deride Logic is a tough task master, but you really need to apply some here or risk being a hypocrite. But that's how political games are played these days, So it's up to you.

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    7. Re:consequences of manipulation by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

      Do I need a fucking citation to claim that someone is lying when they say that the sky is green? The hacking claim was a pathetic deflection, and everybody knew it.

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    8. Re:consequences of manipulation by omnichad · · Score: 2

      They literally blocked further investigation. You can sit there all day and say that the smoking gun has no fingerprints on it, but the gun has been shot.

  4. Lynching by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some people deserve lynching. This guy is pure slime.

    1. Re:Lynching by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I second this, death penalty for a non lethal event is an extreme to be utilized only under severe consequences. In this case however as with many recently it has become obvious that the lack of justice. The lack of justice has been pushing these behaviors ever more extreme, Ajit Pai is performing within the boundaries he is allowed to operate which at this moment is nearly infinite.

      For destruction of the public good, selling out a public utility to a private 3rd party, tampering with the national communication infrastructure and engaging in bribery and class warfare against the people of the republic Ajit Pai is sentanced to death.

    2. Re:Lynching by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Typical leftie. Hates death penalty, until pet peeve is violated. Then becomes violent thug advocating for communism.

      Meanwhile, antifa keeps getting their ass kicked, arrested, shamed, and here you are jacking off on a non issue that means nothing. Get out there boy and wear that mask with pride, bring your wooden club, and wack an innocent bystander for socialism.

      Asshole.

    3. Re:Lynching by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The network connecting our entire species is a "peeve" ?

      Negative, it is more important than even our nations, it rises above nearly all things. There is nothing more important. Try watching a guy try to go through life with a degenerative nervous system disorder. Now imagine that that is a metaphore for our digital communications network. It looks a lot more important when you realize how necessary it is. Quite frankly we could lose africa australia and denmark and it wouldn't matter 1/100th as much as losing the internet.

    4. Re: Lynching by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Socialism == Bad.

      I no cuz the scool told me so. Teachers dont lie.

      Do you swell with nationalistic pride? Do you want to give Donald Trump a blow job? Believe it or not your country is not out for your interests. Shock horror.

      Capitalism is dead, we live under corporatism now. Join the party sometime, assuming you can weasel your way into the crony club.

  5. Typical of this administration by the_bard17 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Taking a page right out of Trump's book... blame the guy who came before you.

    1. Re:Typical of this administration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I seem to recall Obama blaming a failing housing market and rapidly rising unemployment on Bush" Quote him or you're a lying faggot Trumptard making shit up to save yourself from the ACTUAL GALLOWS.

    2. Re:Typical of this administration by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      Taking a page right out of Trump's book... blame the guy who came before you.

      Trump's book? I seem to recall Obama blaming a failing housing market and rapidly rising unemployment on Bush, well after Bush's term was over. Blaming the guy who came before you is Page 1 of the Democratic Handbook, I recall Clinton blamed every problem on the Bush who came before him as well. I'm sure Jimmy Carter blamed everything on his predecessor as well. Refusing to take personal responsibility for your actions is the foundation of the left.

      *Every* administration blames something on prior administration or takes credit for something that actually happened during the previous administration - both Democratic and Republican. Some of this is justified and some of it isn't. The former is often because many things take time to heat up or cool off and can cross into new administrations, the latter is because politician are dicks.

      As for "refusing to take personal responsibility for your actions", that is classic Trump -- and literally taught in the Trump University course, Business Ethics 101, Avoiding Personal Responsibility. Synopsis: Learn to convincingly blame others, default on creditors, lie, etc...

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    3. Re: Typical of this administration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, a but Obama/but Clinton/but Democrats/but Carter all in one paragraph. Bravo, Trumptard, bravo

    4. Re:Typical of this administration by youngone · · Score: 5, Informative

      I seem to recall Obama blaming a failing housing market and rapidly rising unemployment on Bush

      That's because George II was in charge when the sub-prime mortgage crisis happened. (Not that I imagine for a second he understood what was going on).

      I'm sure Jimmy Carter blamed everything...

      Would that be the same Jimmy Carter who was defeated by that Mr. Reagan who colluded with Iran to keep a bunch of hostages in prison until after the election?
      Then never complained about it?
      I am pretty sure it is.

      Refusing to take personal responsibility for your actions is the foundation of the left.

      Stop pretending there is any left in US politics, there is right, and a far right and your comment just confirms you don't understand any of it.

    5. Re:Typical of this administration by snapsnap · · Score: 1, Informative

      But this guy was appointed to the FCC board by the previous administration. We shouldn't forget that fact.

    6. Re:Typical of this administration by bobbied · · Score: 4, Funny

      Taking a page right out of Trump's book... blame the guy who came before you.

      There's a joke that goes with that...

      A new hire manager type was starting a new job and knowing the previous manager was highly praised showed up the day the previous manager was scheduled to leave to ask his advice and find out the secrets of the job if he could. The exiting manager was just walking out when he arrived and told him "I left you instructions in what's now your desk. Just look in the top drawer. Everything you need to know is in those but follow the instructions carefully. Good Luck!" and he left claiming he had an appointment to keep.

      The next work day, the new manager couldn't wait to see what the instructions where so he arrived early and got though the onboarding process as quickly as he could. At noon, just after meeting his new team he was finally shown his desk and allowed to settle in and get to work. He sat down, opening the desk drawer and found three separate envelops. One was labeled "Open Now", another was labeled "Open in 12 months" and the final one was labeled "Open in 24 months" which seemed weird but taking the letter opener out he opened the first one.

      "Welcome to your new job. I hope you have the same success I did. Here is what I recommend you do. For the next 12 months you should keep things mostly as they are. Any problems you have with the system or the individuals on the team you can blame on me. Tell management that you have identified the problem and it was the previous manager's fault."

      So that's what he did. For 12 moths, any problems where blamed on the previous manager and it worked. He was getting good performance reviews, people thought he was effective, everybody was happy with him. He couldn't wait to see the advice in the next envelop.

      At 12 months, he went into his office, closed the door, and opened the second letter. "Reorganize the whole department. Scramble every job, rewrite every process. Call it process improvement, business to process alignment, what ever you want. Tell everybody you are fixing the issues that have plagued you for the last 12 months. Now you must stop blaming me, but you can now blame all problems on the team and the reorganization and rewrite of the process. 'We are all learning the new process and working out the kinks while we learn our new responsibilities' is now your theme." So that's what he did. It was bumpy, filled with problems that he blamed on the reorganization but everybody like him still and his performance appraisals where again excellent that year.

      As 24 months approached, the wisdom of the previous manager was apparent and his advice was working really well. People where singing the current managers abilities and hard work. There where lots of problems, but the belief was the new guy was working those out and everybody was happy. Again, as the 24th month started, the new manager entered his office, closed the door, took a deep breath as he slipped the last envelop out of his desk drawer to read it and find out what pearls of wisdom he was about to get and how this would again advance his career. The pervious manager was AMAZING!

      He opens the last letter and it says only this: "Write three letters.. "

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    7. Re:Typical of this administration by the_bard17 · · Score: 1

      There is that. Plenty of blame to go around for both parties.

    8. Re:Typical of this administration by farble1670 · · Score: 1

      Refusing to take personal responsibility for your actions is the foundation of the left.

      Any comment that is "the left always does X" and "only the right does Y" is a troll. Nobody is retarded enough to type on a keyboard and truly believe that one party or the other has some lock on truth and justice and the other is controlled by Satan.

      You aren't that dumb, and you aren't fooling anyone.

    9. Re:Typical of this administration by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 0

      But this guy was appointed to the FCC board by the previous administration. We shouldn't forget that fact.

      I see - So it is O'Blama's fault obviously. He colluded with Trump to appoint Pai, after using the Pizzagate time machine to sneak back and forth in time and told Pai that he had to pretend the FCC site was hacked in order to implement a policy that after implementation, O'Blama is getting billions from the people who will profit from this. He is going to split it 50/50 with succubus Hillary Clinton in thier secret fake moon landing quonset hut and chemtrail storage facility in Area 51.

      Perhaps O'Blama, the man who is responsible for everything including the attack on Pearl Harbor, when he colluded with that fucking commie FDR, should be the one that Dear Leader Trump should be putting in jail, amirite?

      As tempting it would be to blame the magic Negro and salve the conciences of god fearing and superior white people everywhere, Blaming the Kenyan Terror baby for Pai would be the same as blaming President Ford for Paul Manafort.

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    10. Re: Typical of this administration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I seem to recall Obama blaming a failing housing market and rapidly rising unemployment on Bush, well after Bush's term was over.

      So you're saying Obama had a command of the facts, and was able to recognize what everybody admitted was happening (even if half of them were and are lying about the causes), so Trump's toadies can't be wrong?

      Boy are you confused. Here's a hint, when you lie about yourself, don't be so obvious. You used the same gambit when it was the child separation policy and the Supreme Court. Turns out neither was exactly true.

    11. Re:Typical of this administration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not really lately. False.

    12. Re:Typical of this administration by riverat1 · · Score: 1

      But this guy was appointed to the FCC board by the previous administration. We shouldn't forget that fact.

      Given the fact that of the 5 members of the FCC board no more than 3 of them can be from one party the previous administration didn't have much choice in accepting Pai for the commission. I guess they could have rejected him but it would have caused more political outcry than it would have been worth and they would have got someone similar anyway.

    13. Re:Typical of this administration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We're not even reading the summary now eh? They LIED about being hacked while blaming the previous administration for the hack. But nice derailing of the conversation so we can just focus on "hey every administration blames the previous" rather than here we have something more that we could do something about. Nah. #MAGA

    14. Re: Typical of this administration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Loyalty is good. Blind loyalty is bad. Never judge a book by its cover but at least look at the cover.

    15. Re:Typical of this administration by the_bard17 · · Score: 1

      Were you sleeping through the last Democratic primary?

    16. Re:Typical of this administration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would that be the same Jimmy Carter who was defeated by that Mr. Reagan who colluded with Iran to keep a bunch of hostages in prison until after the election?

      But the guy Regan got to take the fall for that whole Iran-Contra thing is going to head up the bastion of Americanism that is the NRA now, so quit remembering things, would ya?

    17. Re:Typical of this administration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whataboutism, whataboutism, deflection, projection, and anger.

      As far left as the US gets right there youngone.

    18. Re:Typical of this administration by viperidaenz · · Score: 3, Informative

      A quick googled turned up this article
      http://www.aei.org/publication...

    19. Re:Typical of this administration by Obfuscant · · Score: 0

      That's because George II was in charge when the sub-prime mortgage crisis happened.

      Which was created by the CRA that was enacted under, umm, let's see, who was that? And exacerbated by Frank when he denied there was any problem at all, when Bush was trying to get better regulation put in place. It may have come to a crisis during Bush, but it began a long time before that. It needed to reach critical mass, just like people tell us there is a tipping point in global climate change. Tomorrow's crisis will come from CO2 emitted a decade ago. The banking crisis was the result of bad policy forced on the banks a long time before -- and which included pressure from a lot of community activist groups, one of which BO played a large part in promoting long before he entered the Senate.

      Stop pretending there is any left in US politics,

      Except for the left, you're right.

      So, on-topic for a minute. Of course the FCC wasn't hacked. The comment system that was designed to make it easy for people to make comments without a horrendous authentication system getting in the way allowed people to make comments without a horrendous authentication system getting in the way. Most proceedings don't attract hoards of people who feel no compulsion to be honest about their identities; this one did. Go figure how that would turn out.

    20. Re:Typical of this administration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Define "personal responsibility".

    21. Re:Typical of this administration by youngone · · Score: 1

      As far left as the US gets right there youngone.

      There you go, assuming I live in the US.

    22. Re:Typical of this administration by youngone · · Score: 1, Troll

      You're all over the place, make your mind up. Either there's no left in the US political system, or your nice Mr. Clinton was actually really right wing, what with all his deregulation and so on.
      To be fair, it was that weird Mr. Reagan who started the whole thing. He was really good at getting Americans to vote against their own interests.
      Also good at avoiding going to jail.

    23. Re:Typical of this administration by rtb61 · · Score: 2

      Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, all the same side of politics, all the same corruption, all the same policies, all blaming each other, whilst all agreeing in back rooms and collecting the same bonuses in the same tax havens. The clean up has commenced, and Trump was just the bull tossed into the establishment china shop to create chaos. Woo hoo, the fun has only just begun. The next three US electoral cycles will be quite interesting and more chaotic as they progress. The people demanding their voice, louder and louder whilst the establishment does everything it can to silence them, without the support of the rank and file of the police state.

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    24. Re:Typical of this administration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No I was watching your mom fuck black men for crack, Trumptard. Go watch Trump hang for treason - or hide your eyes like a bitch I guess?

    25. Re:Typical of this administration by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

      Obama could have actually gotten plenty of political credit for blocking Pai. He's the most blatant shill ever, and ISPs are less popular than the government.

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    26. Re:Typical of this administration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another left wing nut job that can't use google blaming everyone else but himself. Save yourself from the GALLOWS??? Who's gallows? Other left wing nut jobs that will shout you down no matter what the actual truth is??

      CAPTCHA: mugging

    27. Re:Typical of this administration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Which was created by the CRA that was enacted under, umm, let's see, who was that?

      Nope. That's a falsehood. It was never the CRA, it was entirely the bank's own fault, and if you must blame a law, try the deruglation of Gramm-Leach-Bliley act.

      And exacerbated by Frank when he denied there was any problem at all, when Bush was trying to get better regulation put in place.

      so let's see, the President you mindlessly support was supposedly doing something, but was stopped by a single Congressman from another party, one that was in the minority? That's your defense?

      It may have come to a crisis during Bush, but it began a long time before that.

      True, Republicans had their efforts going back into the 1980s, but yes, more recently, they did pass the aforementioned act, and had the House starting in 1995. Bush certainly isn't solely to blame. He had a whole party going along with him.

      It needed to reach critical mass, just like people tell us there is a tipping point in global climate change. Tomorrow's crisis will come from CO2 emitted a decade ago.

      But yeah, we had movies about G. Gordon Gecko and Mad Magazine back covers before then too.

      The banking crisis was the result of bad policy forced on the banks a long time before --

      Nothing was forced on the banks, they weren't made to do all the reckless, let alone dastardly things they did, they willfully embraced it as they relentlessly chased after dollar signs. Greed was their god, and their worship of a false idol lead to their practices of fraud and deceit.

      Even after the mortgage crisis, when they literally went to court to falsely seize houses instead.

      and which included pressure from a lot of community activist groups, one of which BO played a large part in promoting long before he entered the Senate.

      Nope. That's just what you keep telling yourself. But then you learn what the banks really did. Just check out their documented policies of abuse towards those communities which Barrack Obama complained about.

      It's like how California's power crisis was relentlessly blamed on the environmentalists, but turned out to be Enron instead.

      Except for the left, you're right.

      We'd be better off abandoning the whole false paradigm anyway.

      So, on-topic for a minute. Of course the FCC wasn't hacked.

      Which makes Pait a liar. Documented and on-record.

      Most proceedings don't attract hoards of people who feel no compulsion to be honest about their identities; this one did. Go figure how that would turn out.

      Actually, I've read news reports about how corporations tend to bribe people to come into civic proceedings and mouth their preferred lines in order to falsify support. Even small-town meetings. Just to get their way.

      Of course, we knew how this would turn out, Pait was dogmatically entrenched into his corporate-mandated solution, they got what they paid for.

    28. Re:Typical of this administration by DavidHumus · · Score: 1

      Yes - blame the CRA even though CRA-backed mortgages defaulted at a quarter the rate of other sub-primes and that the percent of the mortgage market that was sub-prime went from 7% in 2000 to 21% in 2006.

    29. Re: Typical of this administration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Friends let their friends know when they think they're making a mistake or that something is wrong. Russia is not your friend and is cheering you on, which should tell you something.

  6. Okefenokee by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is there a single agency, department, or aide in this degenerate president's administration that is not steeped in corruption and lies?

    I would feel better if there was, because otherwise I'd have to begrudgingly acknowledge that Trump is history's greatest evil genius. I mean, he must have accidentally hired an honest person, right? I mean, even his campaign was a parade of reprobates and sleaze. It just never stops.

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    1. Re:Okefenokee by Sir+Lurkalot · · Score: 0

      Nope. Not a single one...

    2. Re: Okefenokee by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Informative

      This happened in 2015. Trump got elected 2 years later. Nice try Hillary.

      Don't just sit there and lie. The supposed hack they're talking about occurred during the first week of May, 2017. Here is the story as originally reported right fucking here.

      https://yro.slashdot.org/story...

      And the original:

      http://thehill.com/policy/tech...

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    3. Re: Okefenokee by GrumpySteen · · Score: 1

      Could you be more wrong?

      The "attack" happened in http://thehill.com/policy/tech...">May of 2017 after John Oliver put up a website called "GoFCCYourself" which redirected to the comment page for net neutrality proceedings.

      Also, Trump was elected in 2016, which is not two years later. The inauguration was in January 2017 which was still a few months short of two years later.

    4. Re:Okefenokee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Republicans are always whining about how we need to run government more like business. OK, fine: when an employee lies to me, I can fire that employee. Let’s do the same with our leaders.

      Republicans are only a few states away from calling an Article V convention to amend the Constitution. Let’s offer an amendment for a monthly review of the President’s performance. If the electorate votes that he lied, he’s removed from office, and the Vice President takes over.

      If you think a monthly vote too burdensome, how about a quarterly vote? Or a semiannual vote?

      Why should leaders we elect be able to lie to us and still keep their jobs? It’s precisely because our elections are so infrequent that they can lie with impunity.

    5. Re: Okefenokee by GrumpySteen · · Score: 1

      Well, that link was fucked up. Here it is in better form.

      http://thehill.com/policy/tech...

    6. Re:Okefenokee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      C'mon, history's greatest evil genius would hire much better quality of corruption and liar, heck, they'd probably hire a few honest folks just to let them carry the load.

      So...Trump is not even in the top 100, he's below the Red Skull, Lex Luthor, and the Girl Scouts of Troop 666.

    7. Re:Okefenokee by BrianMarshall · · Score: 0

      Some are Power-Christians that would like to live in a theocracy.

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    8. Re:Okefenokee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh no, the economy is growing and the unemployment rate is the lowest it's been in years! Whatever will we do!
      Peace with North Korea? How terrible! PEACH FO' FIVE!
      No peace! This is corruption!

    9. Re:Okefenokee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Deputy AG seems fairly honest.

      Pretty sure every honest person has been driven out of the White House by now. You don't have to identify them to do that, just create an environment where they can't stand to remain.

    10. Re:Okefenokee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > this degenerate president's administration that is not steeped in corruption and lies?

      -1 for being so partisan, you think that it's just this President. You're part of the problem and trolling, as usual. You can't seem to make a coherent point without frothing.

    11. Re:Okefenokee by SoulRider · · Score: 1

      They still have a long way to go before they beat Nixon's corruption record.

    12. Re: Okefenokee by guruevi · · Score: 1

      There is a story of this happening in 2014, 2015 and 2017 as well, 2014 is the earliest instance that I could find of that administration lying about net neutrality comments being "hacked" in favor of the consumer.

      Bray leaked information to Motherboard in 2014, following another petition to his viewers by John Oliver which caused the website to crash, claiming that malicious activity was responsible.

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    13. Re:Okefenokee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Give me a trillion dollars and I'll make a growing economy any day. Heck, I'll do it for half that!

    14. Re:Okefenokee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah here it is.

      Good ol PopeRatzo. Like a clock.

    15. Re:Okefenokee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That qualifies as "steeped in lies". Try again.

    16. Re: Okefenokee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I keep hovering over each one of those years you posted, assuming there were links there, but click as I might, nothing loads.

  7. Why wasn't Pai canned too? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We aren't fucking idiots Pai. We know it was never hacked.

    1. Re:Why wasn't Pai canned too? by bobbied · · Score: 1

      We aren't fucking idiots Pai. We know it was never hacked.

      Because it's not his JOB to keep the IT infrastructure from being hacked, he's just a commissioner. He's just the appointed chairman of the FCC, it's similar to being on the chairman of the board of a company. He just has a vote in the hiring and firing decisions of the executives.

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    2. Re:Why wasn't Pai canned too? by king+neckbeard · · Score: 2

      What does his job not including something preventing that didn't happen have to do with him lying to the public?

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  8. It wasn't that it got hacked... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's that some unknown parties were abusing the comment system and automatically generating comments supporting getting rid of net neutrality. When reached, many of the people said they didn't even know what it was, and definitely didn't fill out the comment form.

    In addition, there were some very peculiar things going on with it. Such as the timestamps correlated with the names in order (alphabetically inserted).

    Someone was definitely doing something screwy, and it was in support of dropping net neutrality. Somehow I think Ajit, being the slimeball that he is, won't be looking into this.

    1. Re:It wasn't that it got hacked... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, that happened probably over ten million times, but that wasn't a hack.

      I found my rather unique name on the list more than a dozen times. None were in the state where I live.

  9. Obama people clueless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Obama people were clueless, several aids in the administration were hacked, Hillary had a server at her home, Russia had free will to hack DNC, Podesta and who knows who else during election. You have to wonder when we have more agencies then ever supposedly securing the nation this was all going on? These people can’t even decide if they were hacked or not. I sure hope we have some better people doing something besides digging up dirt of their opponents.

    1. Re:Obama people clueless by elvesrus · · Score: 0

      Sure they were clueless, but the current reality makes them look like geniuses.

  10. Tell Tale Sign... by beheaderaswp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ok... this is a mostly IT audience which should have noticed the red herring when this happened.

    They claimed it was a "hack". No one hacks a web site to skew comments... they script the submissions. Bots. Or humans employed to manually add scripted comments.

    So think about it- the FCC leadership is either so incompetent, or so evil, that they blamed the "truth" on hackers in order to avoid the appearance of unpopularity.

    I point this out resigned to the fact that not many people care. An exercise in futility. Move along. Nothing to see here.

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    1. Re:Tell Tale Sign... by farble1670 · · Score: 2

      I don't think you should get caught up on the use of the word "hack". It's used pretty loosely these days.

    2. Re:Tell Tale Sign... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed, we should be focusing that they lied to avoid the facts.

    3. Re:Tell Tale Sign... by phantomfive · · Score: 1
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    4. Re:Tell Tale Sign... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They claimed it was a "hack". No one hacks a web site to skew comments... they script the submissions. Bots. Or humans employed to manually add scripted comments.

      Sadly, the "hack" in question wasn't about the astroturfing and mass abuse of false identities. The hack was the unavailability of the comment platform to the public, which resembled a DDoS due to the flood of people trying to comment.

      The fake comments weren't a hack, and were never claimed to be a hack. Pai claimed "hack" to people's outrage at being unable to comment on the proposal during the public comment phase.

  11. I had a subject, but it was too long, sorry by mutantSushi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Love how Pai makes big deal of previous CIO being hired by previous administration... When he himself was hired by same previous administration. Great stance suddenly denouncing the guy who is gone, when plenty of people have denounced FCC claims all along, yet Pai somehow couldn't reach the same conclusions those people did until now. Obviously his next step is politically empowering those who made this criticism all along. Not.

    1. Re:I had a subject, but it was too long, sorry by rahvin112 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Pai is simply trying to shift the blame for his own lying. He's the one that claimed this was hacking. He's the one that tried to game the comments using this line and he's the one that right up until the IG report came out claimed it was hacking. Now that the report is out saying he's a liar he's trying to deflect that to say it's not his fault.

      He's the head of the FCC, everything the FCC does is his fault, even if he wasn't the jackass on TV making these claims he's now blaming on someone else he would still be responsible. But I guess because he was nominated by Trump he's in the Trump class where he dosn't take responsibility for anything that happens under his watch.

      So much for responsible government administration where people take responsibility for the people who serve under them, in the new Trump paradigm the leader isn't responsible for anything, including the things they actually did do.

    2. Re:I had a subject, but it was too long, sorry by aberglas · · Score: 1

      Just shows how stupid the previous administration was to appoint Pai.

      The Right would never do such a thing, they always appoint reliable people.

    3. Re:I had a subject, but it was too long, sorry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Next time use your brains and come up with a proper subject line.

  12. Sure... Blame the scapegoat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's totally not Pai himself that decided to push his anti Net Neutrality bias regardless, no sire, it's obviously some other dude that was hired by the previous administration, yup, totally legitimate claim.
    This whole government is corrupt, way to go US of A for electing this garbage.

  13. It doesn't do any good to fire them by rsilvergun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    if you don't fire _all_ of them. When they let one go the one that got 'canned' goes to a cushy job at the telecoms (or whatever lobbyist group is buying whatever law we're talking about) and then another gets replaced.

    This won't stop until Americans make refusing corporate & PAC money the primary litmus test for their candidates; _especially_ in primary elections. You can't serve two masters. Either you serve the people or you serve the donor class.

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    1. Re:It doesn't do any good to fire them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's going to be hilarious when Trump hangs though, admit it bitch.

    2. Re:It doesn't do any good to fire them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This won't stop until Americans make refusing corporate & PAC money the primary litmus test for their candidates

      Then this won't stop.

      Throughout ALL of recorded history, in ALL cultures, the wealthy class has been the ruling class. There have been temporary (vanishingly brief) periods where a revolution wiped out the wealthy class and power was strangely spread. But such arrangements are impossible to sustain as humans will always fall back to the same essential organizational scheme.

      It is in our nature. It his how we operate. Our noble sentiments of a democratic system that empowers the poor class is and has always been a patent rejection of reality in favor of an unrealizable fantasy. The poor are uneducated idiots! They don't have the first fucking clue how to govern themselves. Leadership by the poor can't fucking work.

      So the rich lead. Sometimes there are some smoke and mirrors put up to obscure this fact, in order to win hearts and minds. But nothing changes. The rich lead. That's how the real world works when humans have any say in it.

      The truth is a bitter pill, but once you swallow it, you are better for it.

    3. Re:It doesn't do any good to fire them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What makes the rich any better suited to lead than those worse off? They have no perspective of the suffering that happens in their countries, and no incentive to give a fuck. They live in the best possible conditions that humanity has to offer. What insight can they provide to the workings of the world when their very status insulates them from the effects of their own actions?

      The rich are leeches on society, taking advantage of those who lack resources to enrich themselves endlessly.

    4. Re:It doesn't do any good to fire them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your post is a prime example of the cluelessness of the poor. You know nothing about the rich. Absolutely nothing. And you make broad pronouncements about their suitability to lead.

      For starters, precisely because they are rich, they have access to education that you never will, including education in economics, political science, and similar. This means that they can actually get a handle on the kinds of legal and political frameworks that are necessary to manage economies of billions of people. This shit decays into absolute anarchy if it is not properly managed, for god's sake.

      One thing they know, for example, is that money is an intrinsically valueless metaphor for wealth. Its value depends on a thriving economy. That means that in order for them to remain wealthy, the economy as a whole must be healthy. If the balance crosses too deeply into an extreme, the value system collapses and most of their own wealth evaporates overnight. They don't want this to happen any more than anyone else. And, unlike you, they actually have the resources to understand tax law and trade regulation and so forth, so they can actually draft up legislation that makes fucking sense.

      I am just scratching the tip of the iceberg here. But rest assured that the luxuries you currently enjoy, such as they are, are only available thanks to the competent leadership that the wealthy class has been providing since our country was born. A world run by the likes of you would collapse into utter anarchy in a matter of days.

    5. Re:It doesn't do any good to fire them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're wrong on 2 items here.

      First, Americans need to view politics as an investment, and instead of investing in political parties that blow their wad on parties and other consent-gathering cermonies, they should instead invest in parties that promote their interests. 3 Billion is spent a year lobbying in capital hill; If 10 million people donated 10% of their internet bill to the EFF to get the job done, they'd have around a billion a year to play wih. It might take 2-3 years of campaigning and another 2-3 years of careful dismantlement, but once they were done, you'd see your bills half, and the money would come back in all sorts of ways. Really, its a better investment than 401k and a far better idea than backing politicans via donations. Same goes for immingration, call-center workers, et-cetera. Lots of oppertunity for downtrodden organizations like the teamsters to make a come-back.

      Second, you don't "can" people like Ajit Pai. You put them in handcuffs, preferably for the rest of their lives, or if the public deems it fit, at the very least put a felony conviction on their record so they can never hold a public position at a large corporation ever again. Then you move on and go do something more useful with your life.

    6. Re:It doesn't do any good to fire them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When was the last time a poor person ever gave you a job?

      If a rich person wants to start a business, they need to do a market analysis to figure out where the needs are. If you open a new restaurant in an area that already has too many, you won't make a dime. But if you open one up in an area that has too few, then you are providing a whole bunch of people with something they want...badly enough that they are willing to pay for it. AND you are giving them jobs.

      You see? The wealthy play a valuable role in the economy. And it goes much deeper than that.

      You really should educate yourself before you go around saying things like "The rich are leeches on society." You just make yourself sound like an ignorant fool.

    7. Re:It doesn't do any good to fire them by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Serve the people? You mean the deplorables? Why would we want the government to serve them? Deport the deplorables. Get new immigrants in.

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    8. Re:It doesn't do any good to fire them by giggleloop · · Score: 1

      Haha... I love this new tactic handed out at Trumpets HQ where you accuse the left of everything you are... It's not at all like a 5-year-old's argument... "Nuh uh... you are!"

    9. Re: It doesn't do any good to fire them by waferbuster · · Score: 2

      Serve the people... with a nice Chianti and a side of fava beans...

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    10. Re: It doesn't do any good to fire them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You are wrong.

      There is nothing special about "the rich" because most of them inherited it. True, wealth does buy education but it does not buy intelligence, which is scattered randomly among the populace.

    11. Re:It doesn't do any good to fire them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Loser get over it. You and yours did what you always do since it's all you know how to do. You lost. Quit crying and spying losers.

    12. Re:It doesn't do any good to fire them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny how Pelosi is running on reversing economic gains Trump made which reduced black unemployment to historic lows.

      So you call me racist without evidence, I call you racist and point out your political stances on issues which are blatently racist.
      You are a racist just like rsilvergun. I bet you two meet up for the Klan meetings run by Pelosi out there in CA.

      Still waiting for someone to tell me how the DNC rigging their primary, theryby voiding the black votes in the primary (racist), and promoting economic policies that they know will hurt blacks more than any other group isn't racist. The only thing I'm surprised about is how many of you still support these things even after being told they are racist. Its like you are proud of being a bigot.

    13. Re:It doesn't do any good to fire them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do know that those "crazy Republican allegations" are actually true, don't you?

      The DNC email "hack" dump showed us that the Wasserman-Schultz controlled DNC was rigging the primary for Hillary and against Bernie. It also showed that the DNC was working with the media to push specific Republican candidates that they thought Hillary could easily defeat. One of these was Trump. (Didn't you ever wonder why the moderators spent about half the time in those 17-candidate debates talking to Trump?)

      The FBI themselves told us they planted spies in the Trump campaign. They called it "informant" in their release, but they took someone who was not affiliated with the campaign and asked him to go to the Trump campaign and try to get insider information. That is pretty much word-for-word the definition of "spy" and not at all the definition of "informant".

      The "lied on the FISA warrant application" thing is pretty well documented. But I doubt anyone over at the Justice Department would call it lying. They'd just call them errors. In any event, it isn't really that unusual on warrant applications.

      Still, spying on a presidential campaign of the opposing party is a pretty big deal. Nixon got impeached over a tiny operation to see what the DNC was up to - by spying on them. Somehow we've come to a point where using the IRS, FBI, DOJ and secret courts to attack your political enemies is not only not seen as an impeachable offense, but it is worthy of high praise.

    14. Re: It doesn't do any good to fire them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, not in America they didn't. You need to update your talking points. Turn of the century Russia is not a good model for America. We don't have a landed aristocracy.

      Most of the "rich" in America did not start out rich. And many wealthy Americans will not end up there. There is tremendous economic mobility in the USA. Heck, many of the very wealthy among Americans actually came to the USA as immigrants with almost nothing. A huge percentage of tech companies have been started by immigrants. Almost none were started by people who inherited great wealth.

    15. Re:It doesn't do any good to fire them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your views are not well aligned with reality.

      And on the topic of Ajit Pai, you do realize you are dancing to the tune of Netflix, don't you? You think you are "sticking it to the corporate masters", but "net neutrality" was simply a bid by one group of large multinationals to use regulatory capture to control another group of large multinationals.

      Pai laid out a plan to use the FTC to accomplish the goals of transparency and access that net neutrality was supposedly designed to address - rather than using the FCC in a way that it was manifestly not intended to be used.

      But nobody really cares about stuff like that any more. They'd rather parrot talking points and gin up outrage. And the worst bit is that "team" dynamics prevent people from even seeing that this is what they are doing. They believe that there are 5 lights, right down to the core.

    16. Re:It doesn't do any good to fire them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The peasants are revolting!

    17. Re: It doesn't do any good to fire them by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

      Actually, the US has some of the worst social mobility of western nations.

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    18. Re:It doesn't do any good to fire them by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

      Oh look, more "job creators" bullshit. The rich aren't "creating jobs" out of the goodness of their heart. They hire people because they get more out of them than they pay them. That's very much the definition of a leech.

      You can argue that there is a role for the wealthy in society, but that doesn't mean they should be in charge of anything. In fact, I'd argue that they are often among the most incompetent people.

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    19. Re:It doesn't do any good to fire them by king+neckbeard · · Score: 2

      Pai laid out a plan to suck off Comcast because that was why he was hired. Any positive effects that you are hallucinating are merely incidental, and the fact that Google, Facebook, et al abuse their has nothing to do with the fact that the FCC rubber stamped the right for ISPs to abuse their power.

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    20. Re:It doesn't do any good to fire them by BlueStrat · · Score: 1

      Somehow we've come to a point where using the IRS, FBI, DOJ and secret courts to attack your political enemies is not only not seen as an impeachable offense, but it is worthy of high praise.

      The ends justify the means just as they always have, Comrade!

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    21. Re:It doesn't do any good to fire them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the rich are so incompetent, then how is it that they remain rich?

      Incompetent people make bad financial decisions, and wind up poor.

    22. Re:It doesn't do any good to fire them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So the rich lead. Sometimes there are some smoke and mirrors put up to obscure this fact, in order to win hearts and minds. But nothing changes. The rich lead.

      Finally, some refreshing honesty from AIPAC.

    23. Re:It doesn't do any good to fire them by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Once you get rich beyond a certain amount, you can live off of the gains of even the most modest investments without actually spending any money. You get to live for free just by starting off rich.

    24. Re:It doesn't do any good to fire them by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

      I didn't say that the rich are "so incompetent," I said that their ranks often include some of the most incompetent. As for how they stay wealthy, it's because once you reach real wealth, you could spend the rest of your life snorting miles of cocaine, and still have enough money for your grandchildren to do the same.

      Plus, compound interest, good attorneys, tax havens, and accountants, along with governments bending over backwards to help you retain your wealth.

      Your assumption is that wealth is gathered by the intelligent or is otherwise inherently meritocratic, when, in practice, it's mostly about maintaining power and setting the rules to your favor.

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  14. Lying liar says what? by mr.dreadful · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Here's the thing -- when YOURE the one who has been caught lying, trying to pass the buck on to your predecessor just makes you look more like a douchebag.

    1. Re:Lying liar says what? by edi_guy · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Although you are right, a recent op-ed made me think differently about this whole pro-Trump / anti-Trump thing.

      Short story is pro-Trump folks don't actually care if he or his team are liars. The important part is that he is their liar.

    2. Re:Lying liar says what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do you mean "look like"? That would imply he isn't a corrupt douche, a bureaucratic metastasis and a blight on society through and through.

    3. Re:Lying liar says what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obama totally passed the buck... he is the one who released the statement in Pai's likeness to blame Obama, it's a false flag operation! The important thing to remember is that the current administration can do no wrong, and should something bad happen it was that mischievous obama running around washington, likely dressed in a black and white striped outfit carrying a large bag with a dollar sign on it!

      Yeah, that ought to hold up.

    4. Re:Lying liar says what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which has been happening since the dawn of politics. Everyone always thinks their guy is less corrupt or has a good reason for lying. They tend to dismiss accusations against their preferred leader even with overwhelming facts, yet when accusations are placed the the foot of the opposition they are likely to believe them even with almost no supporting evidence. How else would the morons we have from both parties keep getting elected. If people didn't fall for the my party is better then the other one, we might be able to look at individuals and throw out the ones that have no intention of doing anything constructive for the people they represent.

  15. GURUEVI sucks Putin's cock at bargain rates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    GURUEVI you're a world-class faggot who can't even lie competently, so it's no surprise you're Trump's human ass plug also. Kill yourself before we hang your traitor hero, dumb lies won't help you now, bitch. Mueller time! You lose! :D

  16. Pai by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Once an Uncle Tom industry shill, always an Uncle Tom industry shill.

    I once believed that minorities, given the chance to change the status quo when in power, would do so. Instead, time after time, after time, after time (Clarence Thomas, Ajit Pai, Barak Obama, Hillary Clinton*, et al), they become as bad....or worse....than their majority predecessor.

    * Hillary is included for wanting to "drone strike" Wikileaks Assage, notwithstanding her hawkish warmongering.

  17. Why now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Strange (or unfortunately not strange) sequence of events.

    Desire to dump net neutrality, but a pesky overwhelming support for it in the public comments.
    Let's call this a hack and rule as desired.
    But now we admit that there was no hack.
    Ok, but that seems to say that the rulemaking rules were ignored.
    Which might reverse the original desired.

    So, why now are they backpedaling on the original hacking call?
    Is there some criminal liability involved that would override the original desire?

  18. Our Intelligence, how long by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How long do we have to have our intelligence insulted by this miserable twerp?

  19. The hilarious part by nehumanuscrede · · Score: 1

    is there will be exactly zero consequences even after admitting they lied to pretty much everyone.

    Zero. None. Nada. Zip.

    As I posted in another thread about corporations and their standby scapegoats whenever they get caught doing something immoral, unethical
    or downright illegal, so too does the government have their pockets full of excuses ready to go when they fall into the spotlight of shame.

    They always tend to blame everyone except themselves.

    Yet, so deep is the bullshit, they are too blind to realize that the real problem, is them.

    1. Re:The hilarious part by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >They always tend to blame everyone except themselves. You really mean to say that the Russians did it... right?

    2. Re:The hilarious part by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They are not blind. They know what they are doing and they are not at all concerned about "the problem". We are stupid to allow this behavior.

  20. Both were horribly abusing it, more opposed by raymorris · · Score: 2

    The comment period for the NN rules was a shit show all around, and utterly failed to fulfill it's purpose because people on both sides faked and spammed millions of times. By far, most of the fakes / spams were opposing the rule. Roughly 87% of the crap was opposed, probably because those who were in favor (isps) were more likely to understand that spamming shit comments would be absolutely pointless, as opposed to the Facebook reactionaries who had until then never heard of a "comment period".

    It's helpful to understand what the comment process is all about. The agency publishes a draft of the rule and then people interested can comment on the wording, structure, and details of the draft. The agency then looks at each comment and adjusts the wording where appropriate, where they agree adjustments are needed, in order to produce the final draft. Occasionally, there is a second round of comments, with an interim draft.

    It is NOT American Idol, not "press 2 to vote for Ajit Pai". It's not anything like a vote, in any way. It's a process to refine the wording and details, turning a proposed draft into the final rule.

    Useful / proper comments which can effect this process point to specific words in specific sections, such as:

    In section 2, subsection c, the proposed list does not indicate whether those requirements are "or" or "and". The word "or" should be inserted like so:
    ISPs may block traffic that is:
    1. Spam in violation of the CAN-SPAM act
    2. A ddos attack as defined in 3(b)y
    OR
    3. Authorized to be blocked by the commission

    I've had success with very minor policy "adjustments" as well, saying the list should also include and item #4 foobar because while it is similar to a ddos, it doesn't exactly fit the definition in 3(b)y because whatever. I've never seen a policy reversal, or anything remotely resembling a reversal, take place during the comment period. Rather, it's minor adjustments to the details.

    That's the type of comment that gets a change made. The FCC isn't asking what their policy should be, they are looking for bugs in the way they have written the rules.

    Of the top fake / spam comments, six of the top seven bogus comments, the ones bulk-submitted the most times, were OPPOSING the policy:

    http://www.pewinternet.org/201...

    Such spam is utterly pointless since the comment process is not a vote. It's more like proofreading.

    1. Re:Both were horribly abusing it, more opposed by drinkypoo · · Score: 0

      By far, most of the fakes / spams were opposing the rule.

      Russian troll ads were shown to the opposition of such views, in order to galvanize voters. And the fakes/spams in the FCC comment period on net neutrality were designed to make it look like those who opposed net neutrality were trying to game the system.

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  21. It's a feature, not a hack by Chelloveck · · Score: 1

    No kidding? You mean the comments site which actually has an API for bulk submissions wasn't attacked by 1337 h4x0r5, just someone using the API exactly how it was intended? Who'da thunk it?

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  22. The Right are much better than the Left by aberglas · · Score: 1

    The Right are much better than the Left at doing both X and Y.

    Where X=dodgy deals and Y=getting (evil) things done

    The Left would love to do more of X and even Y, but they just don't have the gumption.

    Nice fellow, that Obama.

  23. Russians "hacked" the election by aberglas · · Score: 1

    By posting Facebook articles.

    Words and meanings are only loosely connected.

  24. Suppose Pai Is Correct by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's say, just for the sake of argument, that Pai is 100% correct here. I mean it's possible.

    Pai is still a partisan hack, dismantling Net Neutrality when the majority of citizens don't want him to. Therefore I rather doubt that this whole "throw the previous command structure under the bus" defense makes him look good. Instead it makes him look more like an agency head looking for someone to blame, and he doesn't even mind tarring his own agency.

    You do remember that you are the one in charge now? Does the buck stop with you or does the buck stop with anyone but you?

    Just keep digging Pai. Just keep digging.

  25. So Aaron Swartz is a Russian ISP plant? by raymorris · · Score: 2

    The millions of duplicative spams sent in opposition came primarily from Demand Progress, an organization co-founded by Aaron Swartz orginally to protest seizure of domains like MegaUpload which exist primarily to engage in commerical criminal copyright infringement for profit.

    Is it your assertion that Aaron Swartz and his associates were trying to "make it look like those who opposed net neutrality were trying to game the system", apparently in collaboration with the Russians? Because that's who submitted most of them.

  26. Did I miss it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or has no one worked the giant coffee mug into this yet?

  27. Um... that's hacking. by rsilvergun · · Score: 2

    The term 'hack' comes from MIT train hobbyist and the "hacking" they did to their model train setups to do crazy stuff. It describes any elaborate and convoluted means of achieving a desired end. Arranging for tens of thousands of obviously fake comments to get posted and for those fake comments to be accepted as real definitely fits the bill.

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    1. Re:Um... that's hacking. by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

      Real comments on a comment page, which is what actually happened, are not hacks. Eat a dick, you bootlicking shitwad.

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  28. Prepare three envelopes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One down, two to go.

    1. Re:Prepare three envelopes by orgelspieler · · Score: 1

      They have more envelopes now. There's "They did it first." "They made us do it." "We didn't do it." "We did it, but it wasn't illegal." "It's illegal, but still not as bad as when they did it." and "Hey, look at those job-stealing Messicans!"

  29. Obam admin f*cks up and lies about it (again) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    News at 11. Yawn.

  30. His Mum? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just wondering where the love is for Mr Pai. I mean, he can mobilise an army of sock puppets and trolls, but do they really truly love him?

  31. False equivalence, retard. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Both sides are corrupt but the rightmost side is many times more corrupt. Pretending that it only goes as far as "both sides do it" is lying.

    1. Re:False equivalence, retard. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It seems you missed the last eight years of democrat rule.

      Clinton took a 9 figure "donation" in exchange for supporting a big mining deal. Nobody even batted an eye on the left. That's gumption.
      Obama expanded wars into a dozen countries - even going for regime change in Libya - all without bothering to go to congress for authorization. He had a secret, extra-judicial "kill list" that he used to target people for assassination... including american citizens. Remember code pink protesting that? Yeah, not so much.

      Don't pretend "my team doesn't do that... at least not like your team!" You don't amass hundreds of millions in speaking fees because you are a dynamic speaker. And you particularly don't get paid to make speeches when you are pretty terrible at it... like Hillary is. At least Obama and Bill Clinton are dynamic public speakers. But notice who is paying for the speaking fees. It ain't greenpeace.

  32. The 3 rules of Eejit Pie! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. Lie
    2. Lie
    3. Lie again

  33. Ajit Pai? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    More like a shit pai if you ask me.

  34. direct quote from FCC director to American people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "WHAT-EVA! I'll do what I want!" - - Ajit Pai

  35. Most Are Misunderstanding Original Post by Artagel · · Score: 1

    Pai was announcing an upcoming report from the FCC's inspector general. That inspector general is David L. Hunt. https://www.fcc.gov/inspector-general He was appointed in 2011, during the Obama administration, http://thehill.com/policy/technology/137015-david-hunt-named-fcc-inspector-general So this an Obama appointee reporting on an Obama appointee, not Pai going after an Obama administration official.

  36. Astonishing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The level of blatant stupidity in these comments is astonishing.

  37. Snowball did it by Thad+Boyd · · Score: 1

    Chairman Ajit Pai blamed the former chief information officer and the Obama administration

    Party of personal responsibility!

  38. It's been well established by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    that the comments weren't real. Also, if you're a Russian troll you're doing a terrible job of it. And if you're not you're even worse at whatever the hell it is you're doing. I can't decide.

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    1. Re:It's been well established by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

      There were fake comments, but the comments that were claimed by Pai to be part of the "hack" (the pro-net neutrality comments, particularly in response to John Oliver) were real.

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  39. NO I DI'N'T by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WEEEEEEE didn't do shit. I voted for HER. #stillnotmypresident

  40. How's life in the hypocrite lane?