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Airbus' Solar-Powered Zephyr Smashes Flight Duration Record on Maiden Outing (newatlas.com)

A solar-powered aircraft from the European aerospace giant Airbus has completed a maiden flight lasting 25 days, 23 hours, and 57 minutes. In doing so, the production model unmanned solar-powered aircraft set the record for the longest flight ever made by any aircraft. From a report: Originally built by British defence company Qinetiq and now owned by Airbus, the Zephyr aircraft is designed to soar through the stratosphere for months at a time by drawing on the power of the sun. It is similar to Facebook's now defunct Aquila aircraft in this sense, and is hoped to one day provide satellite-like services with the flexibility of an unmanned drone. The latest version of the Zephyr weighs just 75 kg (165 lb), but is able to carry up to five times its own weight. Flying above weather and other air traffic at 70,000 ft (21,300 m), the aircraft can be controlled from the ground and has the potential to carry all kinds of payloads, be they to collect high-resolution imagery, provide voice communications or, as was the idea with Aquila, beam internet service to underserved areas. [...] It took off from Arizona on the 11th of July and has only now come down to Earth, a total of 25 days, 23 hours and 57 minutes later. This was the first outing for the production model Zephyr S, and the team is already setting its sights on its next voyage.

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  1. Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Couldn't last another 3 minutes, huh?

  2. Re:Energy density by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The article says it can carry 27 tons of cargo. Don't you read?

  3. Re:so what by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People who care about science and technology I guess. Those who are only interested in themselves may be less inclined...

  4. Re:Energy density by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its entire purpose is not to carry cargo, it's to stay aloft for long periods of time beyond the abilities of traditional aircrafts for purposes such as observation, communications, and reconnaissance. Unlike satellites it is much cheaper, can be easily diverted to a different locale, and requires no extensive preparations to launch. It isn't supposed to carry even a person: you would not want to be in an aircraft for 26 days in a stretch.

  5. Re:Energy density by bobstreo · · Score: 1

    How many tons of cargo does the Zephyr carry?

    According to the article summary:

    The latest version of the Zephyr weighs just 75 kg (165 lb), but is able to carry up to five times its own weight.

    So around 825 lbs.

  6. It is not the longest by mjdrzewi · · Score: 4, Informative

    It is not the longest flight ever, by any aircraft, by time. The record is over 64 days, 64:22:19:05 to be exact https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.... It looks like it has the unmanned record though. Still a cool achievement having a solar powered plane in the air for that long, and has potential as a satellite replacement.

    1. Re:It is not the longest by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

      I was about to post this too. Perhaps they meant the record for this century, or without refueling. Still, it's kind of surprising that the longest (time period) record, and most recent was almost 60 years ago. It's even crazier that to get to 7th place it beat out a flight that took place 88 years ago. I guess that no one cares about this record as it seems like it would be somewhat easy to beat with modern tech. Perhaps modern regulations are what is stopping someone from attempting it.

    2. Re:It is not the longest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess that no one cares about this record as it seems like it would be somewhat easy to beat with modern tech.

      Is my guess too. I think that happens a lot. It gets to a point where beating an old record has no technological limits, but simply requires finding somebody willing to go through ever larger amounts of bother.

      I don't want to know what they did for a bathroom in that 64 day Cessna flight. Buckets maybe. Sounds terrible.

    3. Re:It is not the longest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think 9 is less than 25

    4. Re:It is not the longest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    5. Re:It is not the longest by samwichse · · Score: 1

      Two guys spent 64 straight days cooped up in a Cessna 172?

      My condolences for their sanity.

  7. Re:Energy density by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Over 0.4 tons is highly impressive for a craft which weighs no more than 75kg.

    This technology will become more capable over time, but already that is a useful load for a range of purposes. Not everything requires a 747-8F Freighter. Sometimes you would rather stay up longer.

  8. Cheap Satellite with Catches. by foxalopex · · Score: 2

    There's potential for this to be an inexpensive communications repeater or used for satellite photography (google maps would probably love something like this to keep up to date land imagery). I don't see it being too useful for military because it's too light to have any real defence and it would probably be highly vulnerable to solar flare disruption events. (Probably fry and crash it).

    1. Re:Cheap Satellite with Catches. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's potential for this to be an inexpensive communications repeater or used for satellite photography (google maps would probably love something like this to keep up to date land imagery). I don't see it being too useful for military because it's too light to have any real defence and it would probably be highly vulnerable to solar flare disruption events. (Probably fry and crash it).

      Why couldn't every airplane be a communications repeater. There's usually an airplane over almost every major city. If the zephyr one is inexpensive, why wouldn't it be inexpensive to equip every plane with a repeater?

    2. Re:Cheap Satellite with Catches. by OzPeter · · Score: 2

      I don't see it being too useful for military because it's too light to have any real defence

      You'd have to be a pretty sophisticated adversary if you can find and target a 75kg glorified R/C aircraft flying at 70,000+ feet

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    3. Re:Cheap Satellite with Catches. by blindseer · · Score: 2

      I don't see it being too useful for military because it's too light to have any real defence and it would probably be highly vulnerable to solar flare disruption events.

      I disagree, I see this as highly valuable for the military. One problem the military has is keeping communications over a battlefield. If this airplane can provide internet access to far off places then it can provide communications to and from a battlefield and among those on the battlefield.

      Also of military value would be the other planned use for this airplane, providing imagery. Knowing where the friends and foes are located would be quite valuable. Drones were quite effective in previous conflicts to direct artillery, if this can stay in the air for days instead of hours then that would be very valuable. This could likely provide weather reporting with a different instrument package.

      This thing flies so high and for so long they call it a "pseudo-satellite". One problem with satellites is that they are too high to look through clouds, get something lower and more can be seen. Another problem with satellites is they keep moving. They come over the target, and then they aren't over the target. A "pseudo-satellite" can be parked where it's needed and when it's needed.

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    4. Re:Cheap Satellite with Catches. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kind of... the major players have had the tech to do that since the 60's, and most of the 2nd tier players do today. But your point still stands: there are a number of 3rd tier adversaries who don't, so these would remain situationally useful, probably for a long time to come.

    5. Re:Cheap Satellite with Catches. by Type44Q · · Score: 0

      Hogwash; this thing would have a radar cross-section larger than Hillary's girdle.

    6. Re:Cheap Satellite with Catches. by rkordmaa · · Score: 1

      Good enough against sheepherders from a military perspective. But it's completely useless against any sort of real advecary. For any semi-competent air defence it's easy pickings. Imagine trying to fly that thing over Donbass, hah, it would be downed before you can say "Buk".

    7. Re:Cheap Satellite with Catches. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Another advantage over satellites is that it can land, be repaired or upgraded, and take off again at very low cost. Even when the Space Shuttle was flying, fixing stuff in-orbit is a right pain in the arse.

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    8. Re:Cheap Satellite with Catches. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      War of attrition then. This flimsy thing cost way less than the missile that takes it down. They get tired of spending expensive rockets on poking out "eyes in the sky". Russia may find it interesting to get some practice with the BUK, but won't fund a new one every day for long.

    9. Re:Cheap Satellite with Catches. by blindseer · · Score: 1

      Good enough against sheepherders from a military perspective. But it's completely useless against any sort of real advecary. For any semi-competent air defence it's easy pickings.

      Define "semi-competent air defense". These solar powered airplanes can fly for days at altitudes of 70,000 feet. That means that they can take off from just about anywhere in the world, reaching altitude in a safe area, then fly over to the battlefield and loiter. Most commercial aircraft have a maximum altitude of 45,000 feet or less. Some military jets can go higher than that 45,000 feet but only by restricting their weapon payload and maneuverability. The few aircraft designed to go that high are recon jets, and they have no weapons, that's assuming they could engage a target that's moving at subsonic speed while they are going Mach 3.

      Because so few aircraft fly above 45,000 feet there are few anti-aircraft systems designed to engage a target that high. This altitude is in the territory of anti-ballistic missile or anti-satellite weaponry. The US military has such weapons, as do many allies. China doesn't have such capability, not yet anyway. Russia might have it, but they lost a lot of ability to keep making these weapons over the decades.

      Here's a short video telling a tale on what happens when an Iranian F-4 fighter jet tries to shoot down an American surveillance drone.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      These "semi-competent" air forces will not be going against a solitary drone flying overhead. They will have to get through the air defenses that come with that drone to shoot it down. Being at such a high altitude is in itself a very good self defense mechanism, it is out of reach of most every military aircraft and most every anti-aircraft system in existence, and leaves a lot of room between it and the ground for defensive aircraft to fly.

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  9. Not nearly the longest flight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    That isn't anything near the longest flight made by any aircraft. This wikipedia page shows six flights that were a longer duration.

    1. Re:Not nearly the longest flight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Longest MAIDEN flight maybe?

  10. Just a bit longer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seems like the airplane landed 3 minutes earlier than they planned :)

  11. Re:Energy density by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 2

    you would not want to be in an aircraft for 26 days in a stretch

    I wouldn't want to be either. But These guys did it for a little shy of 65 days in a Cessna almost 60 years ago. So this is not exactly the record for longest continuous flight of any aircraft.

  12. um, are you bad at reading, or is it math? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From the article: "The latest version of the Zephyr weighs just 75 kg (165 lb), but is able to carry up to five times its own weight."

    On planet Earth, 165lbs * 5 is NOT 27Tons.

    Re-read, or re-compute, or both.

    Like all solar powered planes, this thing is a VERY large, extremely flimsy, fragile, very slow, over-expensive model airplane. Not for use with weather or turbulence or in any situation where anything important is at stake.

    1. Re: um, are you bad at reading, or is it math? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      It can carry up to 27 tons of sarcasm.

    2. Re: um, are you bad at reading, or is it math? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In that case, we should make it Air Force One for the duration of Trump's administration.

    3. Re: um, are you bad at reading, or is it math? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Flying in circles for 25 day straight, would be symbolic of this administration.

  13. Re:Energy density by ewibble · · Score: 1

    I think this is non-refueled flight.

  14. Re:Energy density by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't you mean almost continuously refueled? Because that's what a solar panel on the drone is doing. It may not be a liquid store of energy, but it sure as hell is replenishing a store of energy.

  15. Re: Energy density by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ohhh, you must have very big brain! Nothing, we are very simple people with very small brain. Mr. Hosik's brain is especially small! So small. We cannot achieve so much with such small brain, but you American wow, brain so big, so big brain!

  16. Re:Energy density by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

    Don't you mean almost continuously refueled? Because that's what a solar panel on the drone is doing.

    Not at night.

  17. Missed! by fgouget · · Score: 1

    It took off from Arizona on the 11th of July and has only now come down to Earth, a total of 25 days, 23 hours and 57 minutes later.

    They missed their target by 3 minutes obviously ;-)

    1. Re:Missed! by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      Time compression.

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  18. Re:so what by OrangeTide · · Score: 2

    who cares

    Your local police department.

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  19. Re:Energy density by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

    Balloons and blimps have also stayed aloft for longer than 27 days. The claim, as written in TFA, is wrong.

    Sure, you can qualify if by saying "without refueling" or "heavier than air" or "powered flight" or whatever, but TFA doesn't say that. It says "any aircraft", which is baloney.

  20. Boom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    can it carry a high powered laser to melt the dissidents or bombs to blow them up? Lots of potential here.

  21. Re:Energy density by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So refueled 50% of the time? Still sounds like refueling to me, pedant.

  22. Poor nations icbm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gonna figger out a way to sell these, and get a nuke down in size, then we'll be all set

    1. Re:Poor nations icbm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Zephyr weighs 75kg, and can lift five times that. I.e. 375 kg. The MK54 warhead weighs 23 kg, so 16 of those. For bigger bangs, the termonuclears starts at about 100kg so perhaps 3 of those. No need to get nukes "down in size".

  23. I asked the exact same question by OYAHHH · · Score: 1

    In 1995 to the engineers at Edwards Air Force Base. "What is the longest duration flight you have going? A month?"

    I got the ole "No comment" with a wink.

    My gut tells me the US has an aircraft out there from years ago that has already done the Airbus feat.

    But, regardless, it is a neat trick.

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  24. How does it land? by Michael+Woodhams · · Score: 1

    I've found video of takeoff, but not of landing. I see no landing gear. Does landing also involve a bunch of people running and holding it?

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  25. What's the matter with you people? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you really so completely mentally compromised that in the world between your ears EVERYTHING is about President Trump?

    Did it ever occur to you that those of us who opposed the previous president were every bit as offended by his actions and policies and obvious hate for us and this nation (NOBODY brags that they want to "fundamentally transform" something they love or even like) as you are by Trump? WE maintained our sanity. WE did not start fires, smash windows, demand that Obama supporters be silenced, start flash mobs in restaurants to bully Obama supporters or employees of Obama. Even the most outspoken opponents of the Obama admin (the TEA Party people) cleaned up after themselves at protests and did not block freeways or occupy federal offices even as Obama used the IRS to persecute them (something the IRS admitted to under oath in congressional hearings).

    The way Trump seems to be living in your heads and driving you to derangement is just amazing -- and by reacting to him as you do you only entertain a large part of his base.

    Grow up. Learn to be civilized. Drop the Hate. This article about the Airbus plane had NOTHING to do with Trump, his policies, or his supporters.

    1. Re:What's the matter with you people? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He got you riled up, though, so mission accomplished.

    2. Re: What's the matter with you people? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh, have you looked around?

      You know how many people have been killed because they practised legal abortions? Here's a small list compiled by usatoday

      https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/08/18/president-trump-wants-facts-right-wing-extremism-here-they-are-erroll-southers-column/577308001/

  26. Re:Energy density by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

    IFS Zephyr carries a few dozen passengers including the protagonist.

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  27. Re:Energy density by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    75 * 5 = 375. 375kg is over 0.4 tons? Math is hard.