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Samsung Unveils Tizen-Powered Galaxy Watch That Lasts 'Several Days' On Single Charge (venturebeat.com)

Alongside the Galaxy Note 9 and Galaxy Home Speaker, Samsung took the wraps off its new Galaxy Watch wearable at its Unpacked event in New York City. VentureBeat reports: Beyond coming in rose gold, silver, and midnight black colors, it can be had in two sizes -- the prior Gear S3 size is now called "46mm" and will start at $349.99, while a smaller-sized model is called "42mm" and will start at $329.99. Both will be available starting August 24, solely in the specific size and color configurations shown below. Samsung is also using improved glass: Gear S3 watches used Corning's Gorilla Glass SR+ and were IP68 rated for 10-foot, 30-minute water and dust resistance. The Galaxy Watch upgrades to Corning Gorilla DX+ glass and promises to keep the AMOLED screen underneath fully water-safe; it's rated for 5 ATM (165-foot/50-meter) submersion with IP68 and MIL-STD-810G certifications.

A disappointment in the new model is a reduction in its payment capabilities. The Gear S3 included both NFC and swipe-style magnetic secure transaction (MST) support to enable a wide array of Samsung Pay wireless purchases, but the Galaxy Watch drops MST support and only works with NFC. Not surprisingly, however, it does support Bluetooth 4.2 and 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi. While continuing the use of a Tizen operating system from the Gear S3, Galaxy Watch packs a more powerful dual-core Exynos 9110 processor running at 1.15GHz. As was the case with the Gear S3 Frontier, the Galaxy Watch is available in Bluetooth-only and LTE versions, now promising LTE support across over 30 carriers in more than 15 countries. On stage, Samsung promised that the Galaxy Watch can be used for "several" days between charges; a subsequent press release said that it's actually "up to 80+ hours with typical usage" on the 46mm model, which has a 472mAh battery, versus "45+ hours" from the 270mAh battery of the 42mm model. Each model promises at least twice the longevity "with low usage."

82 comments

  1. Pathetic ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    My old Timex from the 1970's does at least 5 years on a single tiny cell battery.

    1. Re:Pathetic ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My apple doesn't need to be peeled like an orange.

    2. Re: Pathetic ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      God hates fags like you.

    3. Re:Pathetic ! by msk · · Score: 1

      My Casio solar has been on the original battery since I bought it in 2009. This watch also sets itself daily from WWV.

      I see no need for an expensive watch that runs at best a few days between charges. I already have a phone that's like that.

    4. Re:Pathetic ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sad. My oldest wristwatch - a vintage Omega is from 1935 - has been working without any battery since it came out of the workshop.

    5. Re:Pathetic ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's pretty good. My Sun Dial only lasts from 10-12 hours depending on the season. Should be good for about another 5 billion years or so until the charge starts failing.

    6. Re:Pathetic ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had that one, but I damaged it. So I got a calculator watch at walmart - it's cool too!

    7. Re:Pathetic ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My Casio solar watch is ten years on with no battery replacement.

    8. Re:Pathetic ! by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Amazing. My watch doesn't last 72hours with its power reserve draining and it was really expensive. Your Timex must be worth a FORTUNE.

    9. Re:Pathetic ! by AlwinBarni · · Score: 1

      I used to have the same (still have) and loved it, however I bought a smart watch recently and I have to admit - it is useful and convenient. From just controlling my podcast player to pre-checking messages and agenda or weather without reaching for a phone, anyway have to plug the phone daily - might as well watch.

      However, I decided to buy this one ONLY because it auto-switches into low power mode, which can last months still showing time. It's not a disaster (there are clocks everywhere nowadays) - but still.

    10. Re:Pathetic ! by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 1

      It also wasn't a security disaster waiting to happen. The same can't be said about the Tizen OS.

      https://www.androidauthority.c...

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    11. Re:Pathetic ! by cayenne8 · · Score: 2

      I see no need for an expensive watch that runs at best a few days between charges. I already have a phone that's like that.

      Honestly, I was once on your train of thought....

      But, last year, I had a good bit of disposable cash, and got an apple watch, just as a toy.

      I'd not had a watch in a long time, and I'd actually wanted an old fashioned Mickey one, which I couldn't find that looked like the old style with the hands pointing at time, etc.....and the apple watch had that face with the tapping foot, etc.

      Anyway, I've become HOOKED on the smartwatch thing. I use it ALL the time for more than a watch.

      I use it regularly as my timer for cooking.

      I use it at the gym to track my workouts, and also when running/walking/outdoor bicycling to track my path and progress.

      It works great doing laps in the pool...I also use it to track my sleep (the app for this is so-so, hoping for a better one to come out).

      It is now my main reminder for calendar events, I see my text messages on it,and often answer without having to dig my phone out of my pocket.

      I got the one with cell phone coverage in it and I like it when out biking as an emergency phone, as that I can just wear it and leave my bulky phone at home.

      I also pair it with BT ear buds for workouts and again, music without having to carry the bulky phone.

      I have actually been amazed how much I use the thing and for me at least...it is money well spent!!

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    12. Re:Pathetic ! by pgmrdlm · · Score: 1

      My citizen watches never need to be recharged.

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    13. Re:Pathetic ! by dfsmith · · Score: 1

      My old Timex from the seventies needs to be wound every day (assuming I want to use it).

    14. Re:Pathetic ! by antdude · · Score: 1

      Too bad Casio Data Bank watches didn't have solar. That could had been useful!

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  2. Several days, OMG! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My FossilQ hybrid lasts about a year..

  3. My Gear S3 already lasts several days? by Reverant · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sounds like marketing talk. My Gear S3 currently lasts 3-3.5 days with typical usage, so that's "several days" already. It consumes between 25-30% of the battery per day, on average. I would not bother with upgrading if the 3-3.5 days figure didn't upgrade to 5-6 days.

    1. Re:My Gear S3 already lasts several days? by crypticedge · · Score: 1

      I get 2 days off mine under normal use. How's yours configured that gives you that extra day, also do you run any apps on it?

      I won't be upgrading myself because I use the MST payment way too often, as 1/2 the retailers I go to don't support nfc payment.

    2. Re:My Gear S3 already lasts several days? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those are not even watches people..., How about Omega, Rolex, Tag, Breitling instead of tracking chip up your a$$, or on your wrist...

    3. Re:My Gear S3 already lasts several days? by Reverant · · Score: 1

      WiFi disabled (bluetooth only), GPS disabled (the watch picks up the location from the phone anyway). No additional apps installed, just a handful of watch faces. I recall that a previous update made it terrible, like less than 2 days of battery, then another update fixed it (and the update did say so) and it was back to normal.

    4. Re: My Gear S3 already lasts several days? by Gojira+Shipi-Taro · · Score: 1

      Why would I wear and pay BIG bucks for something that just tells time? Like your phone can't track you. Fuck rolexes. Rhats a giant douche bag identifier

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    5. Re: My Gear S3 already lasts several days? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would I wear and pay BIG bucks for something that just tells time? Like your phone can't track you. Fuck rolexes. Rhats a giant douche bag identifier

      Well, because it is called a "watch".

    6. Re:My Gear S3 already lasts several days? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have an S3 (classic) and I find the same thing, it last about 3 days and is a really great smartwatch.

      If I ever decided to buy a new one, I would happily get another in this range and the new "watch" looks great.

      Not sure what the general hating is all about?

    7. Re: My Gear S3 already lasts several days? by easyTree · · Score: 1

      Wow; the triggering is strong for this topic.

    8. Re:My Gear S3 already lasts several days? by crypticedge · · Score: 1

      Ah, I run BT and WiFi on, along with GPS. I keep cell off because that just cuts it down to like 10 hours if I enable it. I turn that on if I know I need it but that's rare.

      I walk away from my phone for periods of time while in the same place that leave me not able to disable wifi, so I guess I'll stick with how I have it setup

    9. Re:My Gear S3 already lasts several days? by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      Though I somewhat mired in ARM processor alphabet soup here, it looks to me like the new processor is a 64 bit V8 processor compared to the Gear's 32 bit A9, so it is a much beefier processor. To come in at about the same battery life is worthy of note. I am pretty sure that the new Exynos 9110 has considerably higher IPC and cache that the Gear's Exynos 4212. The process shrink to 10nm made that battery life possible.

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    10. Re:My Gear S3 already lasts several days? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  4. Does it run Enlightenment ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The pre-millenium version of me would be very tickled.

  5. 'Up to' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Up to 80+ hours" is literally meaningless. "Up to" really means "less than" but the "+" symbol means this translates as "less than an infinite length of time".

    It can't be hard to come up with a meaningful number. Give the watch to 100 of your staff and just log how often they have to charge it over a couple of weeks. Your typical usage is the mean (or perhaps median). If you want a more attractive "up to" number then give a length of time that covers 80/90% of users.

    1. Re: 'Up to' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Suspiciously many homophobic Samsung employees in this thread... that seems unusual for such a large corporation. Is perhaps another collapse of parallel universes imminent, just like in 2016?

  6. So what? So does my Garmin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My Garmin lasts several days on a single charge, and that's with a few hours of GPS-based activity tracking in there as well. Samsung has done nothing groundbreaking. I had a Gear S3 for only a few days, but it wouldn't work with ANY of my smart phones (and you MUST have a smart phone for the watch to work _at all_). I called Samsung Tech support and they said their watches are 'android compatible' but only work with 'select Samsung phones.'

    Screw them. I got a Garmin and I'm never going anywhere else. The watch is amazing and just works.

  7. Cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My watch lasts years if not decades with a single charge (solar powered) and my phone lasts more than 3 weeks with a single charge. You spend your life nestling around with cables and charging stations or use the tools that do their job.

  8. Re:Hello, I'm new here... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, hello there APK and welcome to our little friendly tech corner! It's always nice to see new faces and your welcome to also visit our club premises in person, should you ever make your way to Leipzig, Germany, or Helsinki.

    By way of introducing myself, my user name (login handle) is "anonymous coward". You've posted under my name but I don't mind, this happens often because we do allow multiple login handles. In the long run, just register your name "APK" at our board so people recognize your posts more easily and can print them out by login handle on matrix printer in our club.

    It's great to see another Windows afficionado here, most of us are into windows tinkering, optimizing like memory defragmentation and so on, to get the best from their PCs. But some folks are also into more advanced topics like Visualbasic programming, website design (HTML), and ham radio, so be sure to check out the subforums to see if some of them fit your interests!

    Okay, got go, wifey is calling for lunch and I promised to come back from the garage just after I've printed out these address labels, so I can bring out the trash.

    See you 'round APK and always wear your cock erect and uptight!

  9. If you would prefer a smart watch with 45 days.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... try the Amazfit Bip.

    I've been using this for the last 6 months and it is a fantastic Pebble replacement:

    https://www.amazon.com/Amazfit-Smartwatch-Monitoring-Ultra-Long-A1608/dp/B07CRSK5DM/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1533902536&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=amazfit+bit&psc=1

    45 day battery life
    Always on, daylight readable e-paper screen
    Heart-rate sensor, GPS, Wifi & bluetooth
    IP68 waterproof
    Custom watch faces
    Nice Android and iOS app
    $80 !!!

    Amazed that people put up with second rate (and more expensive) options like Gear watch & Apple Watch.

  10. Bring Back MST or no deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not upgrading from my current Gear S3 to any model that doesn't include MST.

  11. Appreciation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks for such a great article. Keep updating such information always.

    Kindly comment on http://www.samsungalaxy.us/samsung-galaxy-note-9-unveiled-with-s-pen-and-massive-features-inbuilt/ as well.

  12. Re:If you would prefer a smart watch with 45 days. by slaker · · Score: 1

    I've gotten three Pebble Rounds second hand. I haven't paid more than $30 for any of them. They run for at least two days on a charge, and unlike other Smart Watches, they aren't appreciably larger or thicker than any other inexpensive watch; they aren't the monstrously huge things that smart watches typically are.

    I know they aren't being made any more, which is why I bought several of them, but they do everything I want them to do and nobody seems to making smart watches with consideration of form factor any longer.

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  13. 45 days on Amazfit Bip by Luthair · · Score: 1

    which even includes GPS...

    1. Re:45 days on Amazfit Bip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My Nokia Steel HR gets about the same, although without the GPS, but it looks good.

  14. Re:If you would prefer a smart watch with 45 days. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That Amazfit actually looks really good, thanks.

  15. Another explosive device from Samsung by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 1

    As expected from a company on fire.

    1. Re:Another explosive device from Samsung by johnsie · · Score: 1

      Exaggeration dramatica

  16. Eh..."up to 80+ hours"?? by sbaker · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "up to 80+ hours"...what does that even mean? "Up to" (meaning less-than-or-equal-to) "80" (a conveniently rounded number) "plus" (presumably meaning greater than or equal to) hours. So basically, anywhere between 0 and infinity hours? Or maybe 80 hours PRECISELY?

    People who write this stuff really need to stop covering their asses because what they say has ZERO meaning. All I get out of this is "It has a battery that runs it for some completely unknown amount of time".

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    1. Re:Eh..."up to 80+ hours"?? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      People who write this stuff really need to stop covering their asses because what they say has ZERO meaning.

      Only to pedants who can't determine the meaning from the sentence because they are too busy analyzing every individual word.

      It means if it sits there idle expect it to last 80 hours and don't expect anything from the watch beyond that but hey if it's brand new it may last longer, but if you use it it lasts less.

    2. Re:Eh..."up to 80+ hours"?? by Eloking · · Score: 1

      "up to 80+ hours"...what does that even mean? "Up to" (meaning less-than-or-equal-to) "80" (a conveniently rounded number) "plus" (presumably meaning greater than or equal to) hours. So basically, anywhere between 0 and infinity hours? Or maybe 80 hours PRECISELY?

      People who write this stuff really need to stop covering their asses because what they say has ZERO meaning. All I get out of this is "It has a battery that runs it for some completely unknown amount of time".

      The way I understand it, 80 hours is the minimum but it can last longer.

      Of course, "At least 80 hours" would have been better, but it sound a little...negative.

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    3. Re:Eh..."up to 80+ hours"?? by apoc.famine · · Score: 1

      No you twat. The GP explained it clearly. Up to 80 hrs is already marketing bullshit. "40-80 hrs under normal usage" would be far more honest. "Up to 80+ hrs" is complete horseshit, doesn't mean anything, and is totally dishonest.

      If you're ok with that sort of language, you're part of the problem.

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    4. Re:Eh..."up to 80+ hours"?? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      If you're ok with that sort of language, you're part of the problem.

      Actually I'm part of the solution since something was communicated and I understood it. The fact that you can't and the GP can't find meaning in it is part of the problem.

      But then I don't expect much of any thinking ability from someone who starts their post with an insult.

    5. Re: Eh..."up to 80+ hours"?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Correct. Sig figs should be considered.

      8E0 is proper.

  17. How Much is a Front Page Story Worth? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How much did BizX get for publishing this marketing piece and pushing it to the front page?

    1. Re:How Much is a Front Page Story Worth? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A few cents. Page views by /.ers ain't worth what it use to be.

  18. Re:MODERATION IS CENSORSHIP by johnsie · · Score: 1

    Censorship is telling a private company how to run their own site.

  19. My watch requires no charging... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... and is correct twice a day

  20. If this was a smaller company... by johnsie · · Score: 1

    If this was a smaller company that released a 4 day smartwatch, would slashdot give it coverage? How about supporting the little guy instead if just giving a free ad to the big guys.

    1. Re:If this was a smaller company... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who says this was a free ad?

  21. A watch joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Reminds me of a joke

    Jake is struggling through a bus station with two huge and obviously heavy suitcases when a stranger walks up to him and asks "Have you got the time?"

    Jake sighs, puts down the suitcases and glances at his wrist. "It's a quarter to six," he says.

    "Hey, that's a pretty fancy watch!" exclaims the stranger. Jake brightens a little.

    "Yeah, it's not bad. Check this out" - and he shows him a time zone display not just for every time zone in the world, but for the 86 largest metropolises.

    He hits a few buttons and from somewhere on the watch a voice says "The time is eleven 'til six" in a very West Texas accent. A few more buttons and the same voice says something in Japanese. Jake continues "I've put in regional accents for each city". The display is unbelievably high quality and the voice is simply astounding.

    The stranger is struck dumb with admiration. "That's not all", says Jake. He pushes a few more buttons and a tiny but very high-resolution map of New York City appears on the display. "The flashing dot shows our location by satellite positioning," explains Jake.

    "View recede ten", Jake says, and the display changes to show eastern New York state.

    "I want to buy this watch!" says the stranger.

    "Oh, no, it's not ready for sale yet; I'm still working out the bugs", says the inventor.

    "But look at this", and he proceeds to demonstrate that the watch is also a very creditable little FM radio receiver with a digital tuner, a sonar device that can measure distances up to 125 meters, a pager with thermal paper printout and, most impressive of all, the capacity for voice recordings of up to 300 standard-size books, "though I only have 32 of my favorites in there so far" says Jake.

    "I've got to have this watch!", says the stranger.

    "No, you don't understand; it's not ready -"

    "I'll give you $1000 for it!"

    "Oh, no, I've already spent more than -"

    "I'll give you $5000 for it!"

    "But it's just not -"

    "I'll give you $15,000 for it!" And the stranger pulls out a checkbook.

    Jake stops to think. He's only put about $8500 into materials and development, and with $15,000 he can make another one and have it ready for merchandising in only six months. The stranger frantically finishes writing the check and waves it in front of him. "Here it is, ready to hand to you right here and now. $15,000. Take it or leave it."

    Jake abruptly makes his decision. "OK", he says, and peels off the watch.

    They make the exchange and the stranger starts happily away. "Hey, wait a minute", calls Jake after the stranger, who turns around warily. Jake points to the two suitcases he'd been trying to wrestle through the bus station. "Don't forget your batteries.

  22. Re: MODERATION IS CENSORSHIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You are free to speak your mind. And we are all free to decide that we don't want to be *your* soapbox.

  23. My S3 Frontier by p51d007 · · Score: 1

    Gets 3 days now, as it is. They had a Prime sale and picked it up about a month ago for around 200 dollars.

  24. Camera? Strap? Too market-driven! by Nexus7 · · Score: 1

    I know any camera in a smartwatch isn't going to light it up on DxOMark, but it'd be something. Samsung used to have one in an earlier watch.

    It seems like the strap is coming along for the ride, when it could be made to do something, maybe an e-ink screen, battery cells, or well, a camera.

    What's happening is that Samsung won't do it because Apple doesn't. They want to be innovative, but not too much. Ah well, they won't miss my $349.

  25. How about firmware that lasts more than 2 years by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    Sure, lasting several days on a charge is a neat trick for a smartphone.

    What if they made a smartphone that gets security updates for several years?

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  26. Nice going Carsten by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

    Enlightenment lives long and prospers. Never mind how idiotic it is to abuse C like that. It works, because one alpha hacker camped out at Samsung HQ stuck with it and made it work.

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  27. Years on Casio Data Bank watches. by antdude · · Score: 1

    Beat that, Samsung and other companies! :P

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