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The Next Flagship iPhone Will Support Apple Pencil and 512GB Flash Storage, Says Report (appleinsider.com)

Next month, Apple is expected to unveil three new iPhones, each with differing specs/features. According to analyst firm Trendforce, the large 6.5-inch "flagship" model will support up to 512GB of onboard flash storage. Apple Pencil support will also be "offered as an option," although the company didn't specify which models will support the stylus. Apple Insider reports: The company expects that the the 6.1-inch LCD version will come with Face ID, Dual-SIM technology. The firm expects it to retail for between $699 and $749. The 5.8-inch OLED iPhone will be priced at $899 to $949. The 6.5-inch device will come in storage capacities up to 512GB, with one variant of the size potentially having dual-SIM support and expected to be "limited within $1,000 threshold as to encourage purchasing from consumers," according to Trendforce. Both the 5.8- and 6.5-inch OLED models are expected to have 4GB of RAM. The 6.1-inch LED devices will have 3GB of RAM, the same as the iPhone X. The analyst firm believes that all three models are expected to ship in September and October.

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  1. Boring by AlexanKulbashian · · Score: 0

    Where was that article talking about how smartphones are just permuting functions instead of innovating?

    1. Re: Boring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is great to hear Chinese iPhones will some day catch up with South Korean Samsung Galaxy NOTE phones from 2017...

    2. Re:Boring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    3. Re: Boring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude Samsung's are also made in China.

      Frankly those China made phones are doing rather well and the quality of Huawei, Xiaomi and OPPO are surprising good compared to Samsung's.... Samsung have been losing a lot of market share to not Apple, but surprisingly Chinese phones (as in Chinese companies not just made in China).

    4. Re: Boring by johnsie · · Score: 1

      I get my phones direct from China anyway. Xiaomi in particular make nice phones, but I'm sure there are others. Don't see the point in paying for the US/South Korean markup when it's all made in China

    5. Re: Boring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2017? Wasn't the first NOTE in 2011?

    6. Re:Boring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So innovative, even Steve Jobs couldn't think of it!!! https://www.engadget.com/2010/...

  2. And the name shall be by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1, Funny

    The Apple iPhone Note.

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    1. Re:And the name shall be by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I think they missed a leading 1 off the price though. Surely it will be more expensive than the smaller iPhone.

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    2. Re: And the name shall be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      in honor of Amimojo, it will be called the MAXiPad.

    3. Re:And the name shall be by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 3, Funny

      The Apple iPhone Note.

      Why, does it hold explosive features?

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    4. Re:And the name shall be by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      Well, that WOULD take courage to hold it near your head...

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    5. Re:And the name shall be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple is going to sue Samsung because they stole the name Note from Apple and demand that Samsung pay Apple billions of dollars

    6. Re:And the name shall be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the price will be $2k, totally justifiable.

    7. Re:And the name shall be by hackertourist · · Score: 1

      no, it should be named 'Newton'.

    8. Re:And the name shall be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      iphone note 7 ... god I hope not lol...

    9. Re:And the name shall be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple is going to sue Samsung because they stole the name Note from Apple and demand that Samsung pay Apple billions of dollars

      Naturally... Also they are going to invent the concept of using a pen on a phone with this coming model so naturally Samsung will then be sued by Apple for breaking that new upcoming patent for years and years with their entire NOTE line... :-)

      It has always faschinated me, how Apple gets to "invent" existing tech and then SUE other firms with clear prior art FOR their priort art, same thing with shapes and names...

      Maybe Apple has a TIME MACHINE (phun intended) that allows them to travel back in time and apply for patents

  3. Re:Wow... Retro Palm Pilot! by fyonn · · Score: 1

    I can't believe that the iPhone is finally getting a pencil ! And... wait for it... SD cards! Woo Hoooo !
    This is 20 year old tech.
    Do you think it will have Graffiti input?

    what makes you think they're supporting SD cards? it just said 512G of onboard flash, not removable..

  4. Re:Wow... Retro Palm Pilot! by jwhyche · · Score: 2

    Do you think it will have Graffiti input?

    I should hope so. One would hate to think of that ancient and noble skill being lost to the dust of history. Why who better to carry it but apple? It only took them 20 years to get SSD, 10 to get wireless charging, and decent water proofing of the Iphone. Maybe, just maybe, they can finally get more than 3 GB of memory and 2 cores.

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  5. Re:Wow... Retro Palm Pilot! by jwhyche · · Score: 2

    what makes you think they're supporting SD cards? it just said 512G of onboard flash, not removable..

    This is a very good question. If it is removable one would think apple will probably dream up its own propitiatory bullshit type instead of going with the standard. After all can't have the sheep wandering off the ranch.

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  6. Still nothing in the iPhone 5SE size by Aristos+Mazer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Apple still sells lots of 5SE phones, brand new, because of the number of people who just don't want or can't hold comfortably the larger phones. I wish they'd take those brisk sales numbers as a hint and make an updated phone with those dimensions.

    1. Re:Still nothing in the iPhone 5SE size by pak9rabid · · Score: 1

      Fuck, man. I so badly want an updated SE with wireless charing and the taptic engine. I really hope they don't screw that market segment out of it...

    2. Re:Still nothing in the iPhone 5SE size by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes! But if the re-release the SE they'll probably kill the headphone jack.

    3. Re:Still nothing in the iPhone 5SE size by antdude · · Score: 1

      Apple doesn't listen to its users anymore. Look at its Macs too. :(

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    4. Re:Still nothing in the iPhone 5SE size by MagicM · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure why you're saying "5". The iPhone SE exists and has "the same advanced chip used in iPhone 6s".

      But I agree, that size is the right size.

    5. Re:Still nothing in the iPhone 5SE size by zaq1xsw2cde9 · · Score: 1

      Honestly, you should probably open your mind and try out a larger phone.

      I thought the same thing as you, and groused about it. When I got the larger version on an upgrade I found it hard to hold and use... for about 5 days. In 2 weeks, whenever I pick up my mothers smaller iPhone5, it seems to slip out of my hands. It's too small to use now!

      Unfortunately, the smaller form factor is now a thing of the past (Android or Apple). Best to go ahead and get used to you new world. :)

  7. Re:Standard SD Storage by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    Where in TFS is it mentioned they'll support SD storage?

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  8. Re: Standard SD Storage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    iMemBuds wireless rechargable memory beads that you can snap on your belt clip & recharge every night... wirelessly... auto sync backup to China's iCloud.

  9. Re:Wow... Retro Palm Pilot! by mspohr · · Score: 1

    I took the comment "model will support up to 512GB of onboard flash storage" to mean that it would support removable SD type storage.
    I may have been wrong to ASS u ME that. Knowing Apple, I should have ASS u ME d it would be some crazy proprietary locked down storage.

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  10. Boringwood Lynncock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/derivative.asp

    1. Re:Boringwood Lynncock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The MiniPad.

    2. Re:Boringwood Lynncock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The MiniPad.

      As opposed to the MaxiPad?

  11. Re:I lost my pencil, now what? by devslash0 · · Score: 1

    You've got buy a new one for half the price of the phone. No, you can't just use a blunt ordinary pencil. Wait! I said you can't! Stop!

  12. Where wil you store the pencil? by Ayanami_R · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Serious question. If it can't be stored IN the phone, they failed.

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    1. Re:Where wil you store the pencil? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I will store it next to my grandfather's watch

    2. Re:Where wil you store the pencil? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Well...

      It's an Apple product, so you're already bending over to receive it...

    3. Re:Where wil you store the pencil? by dohzer · · Score: 1

      It fits in the headphone jack.
      Oh... wait....

    4. Re:Where wil you store the pencil? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always thought Pen on smart phone is stupid useless idea.
      But, Now that Apple did it, it is the right way.

      Samsung better not copy this new technology.

    5. Re:Where wil you store the pencil? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not a question.

    6. Re:Where wil you store the pencil? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The new iHole pants will come for only $500 and with a detailed instructions on how to hold to your ass cheeks to spread them right for the iPencil.

    7. Re:Where wil you store the pencil? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The pencil goes in the Apple pouch with all the adapters.

    8. Re: Where wil you store the pencil? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The red pouch or the blue pouch?

  13. What's the best way to milk a sheep? by devslash0 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Bring out a new iPhone and charge $1000 for it.

    iDontcare

    1. Re:What's the best way to milk a sheep? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's the best way to milk a sheep?
      Bring out a new iPhone and charge $1000 for it. iDontcare

      Be mindful young fandroid that you don't try to try and milk one of the big grumpy sheep with large horns with only one tit.

    2. Re:What's the best way to milk a sheep? by devslash0 · · Score: 1

      Sven Bomwollen? ;-)

    3. Re:What's the best way to milk a sheep? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's the best way to milk the iSheeple (tm). No real sheep are so stupid. And it will not be that cheap.

  14. Re:Wow... Retro Palm Pilot! by Ayanami_R · · Score: 1

    I still know graffiti, Palm really nailed that back then. In all of my device history I still remember that moment when I realized that I wasn't thinking about what I was doing, just writing. I didn't even try to get good at it, it just happened.

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  15. Re:I lost my pencil, now what? by Mark+of+the+North · · Score: 1

    I used a Palm Pilot for my last two undergrad semesters in university. Besides not being able to mix drawing and text, I loved it. Once I was done with school and tied to a workstation in a cubicle, I completely stopped using it. But ever since cell phones became smart, I've been yearning for styli to become ubiquitous. Apple going this route may help with that. I mean, if other manufacturers have been adopting the, obviously stupid, notch...

    The first generation Galaxy Note almost had me when I got to try a demo for a month, but it wasn't quite there. The price of the Notes has kept me from buying in. I'd welcome more competition in stylus-equipped smartphones.

    But maybe I'm the only one that sees promise in being able to scribble on a shared piece of virtual paper with a work group spread across the globe?

  16. Re:Standard SD Storage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nowhere. He is just some asshole who bought a LPB slashdot account and now needs an anti-apple rep.

  17. Re:Wow... Retro Palm Pilot! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    "Onboard" is the opposite of "removable", because it's on the board. It's what Apple and other phone manufacturers have been using in their phones since day one. The information they are trying to impart in that sentence is the capacity, the fact that it's onboard is not news, it's entirely normal and expected. It's like they said "and it's got an XXX capacity battery charged with electricity" and you are somehow taking away from that sentence that being charged with electricity is a new detail, rather than the capacity.

  18. Re: Wow... Retro Palm Pilot! by jwhyche · · Score: 1

    The "Genius" at the Apple store told me 'just buy a new phone'.

    Only in apples dictionary is the word "genius" synonymous with "dumbass."

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  19. Re:Wow... Retro Palm Pilot! by jwhyche · · Score: 2

    Same here. Palm really did nail that. I still have graffiti in muscle memory and its been close to 10 years since I used a palm. When I'm using a stylus I sometimes find myself writing in graffiti. Would have been nice if palm would have open sourced graffiti and it was a recognized standard on every stylus device.

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  20. Amazing deals from Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The retail price is a minimum of 3.5 times the price of the value of their company facility in California. You know with that kind of value it has got to be good!

  21. Re:Standard SD Storage by jwhyche · · Score: 1

    Doesn't look like anywhere. I just assumed since they said "flash" meant removable.

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  22. OMG so innovative!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    thanks apple

  23. Re:Standard SD Storage by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

    No USB either so you can't plug a flash drive/HDD/floppy in.

    For long trips a flash drive with a few movies on is pretty handy.

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  24. Re:I lost my pencil, now what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Snapchat. 'nuf said.

  25. Re:Apple Pencil on a phone? by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

    It doesn't click inside the body like the one in the note does? Apple loves to encourage their users to lost attachments, don't they?

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  26. does it come with clips?? by schklerg · · Score: 1

    I need clips to hold my dongles and my cord for my cordless earbuds and my Steve jobs statue and all my obsolescence.

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  27. Re:Apple Pencil on a phone? by BronsCon · · Score: 1

    $99 attachments, at that. I lost mine by giving it to a friend who bought an iPad Pro because I never actually used the damned thing.

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  28. Re: Standard SD Storage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They specifically said internal. I highly doubt it will be removable even if you could open the case.
    And it will probably be a commodity SD card, but for twice what you'd normally be able to buy one for.

  29. Re:Standard SD Storage by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    Just put the movies on the 512GB iPhone.

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  30. Re:Standard SD Storage by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

    I just assumed since they said "flash" meant removable.

    Removable storage makes no sense. It will just encourage people to buy a model with less storage soldered in. Where's the profit in that?

  31. Re:Standard SD Storage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple will never add SD card support. It's a money maker to overcharge for storage. The 64 GB iPhone 8 costs $700, while the 256 GB model is $850. That's $150 for an extra 192 GB of storage. As far as I can tell a 256 GB storage chip might be as low as $55 or even less given that Apple buys by the millions. That's an extra $100 of pure profit.

    I'd expect a 512 GB iPhone to cost in the $900 to $1K range.

  32. Re:Apple Pencil on a phone? by dog77 · · Score: 2

    Another problem is the pen discharges quickly when not being used: https://discussions.apple.com/...

  33. Re:Standard SD Storage by Teckla · · Score: 1

    For that model, gotta sell a kidney first.

  34. Re:Standard SD Storage by jwhyche · · Score: 2

    Looks like I hurt some poor apple fan boys feelings...

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  35. Re:Standard SD Storage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They are a sensitive whiny lot.

  36. Re: Wow... Retro Palm Pilot! by SvnLyrBrto · · Score: 1

    Except that's not how the geniuses are trained. (Yeah, it's a silly name. But silly name or no, they're sharp, well trained, and good at customer service. When I used to hire desktop support people and junior sysadmins; poaching from the local Genius Bar produced some of the best candidates and hires.) When I had a battery problem with my 6s, all I had to do was demonstrate it in-store. The genius told me: "Yeah, it shouldn't do that.", asked if I had my data backed up (Which I did. I always do.), and fetched a replacement from the back. Another five minutes to move the SIM and wipe the old one, and I walked out with a new phone. Hell, when I broke a screen through my own clumsiness and brought it in for an AppleCare repair; they also simply gave me a new unit, with no question besides how I'd pay the deductible.

    If it hadn't been a defective unit, and the battery's capacity was depleted by heavy usage, they wouldn't have told me to buy a new one; they'd have offered the battery replacement service.

    The Apple retail people aren't on commission. They're not evaluated by how much product they move. Their evaluations are based on customer surveys and satisfaction metrics. That's why, if you go in and buy something or have it serviced, you'll shortly get an email mentioning the employee by name and asking how your experience was.

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  37. Re: I lost my pencil, now what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You canâ(TM)t afford $1/day for a note? You are poor LOL

  38. Re: Wow... Retro Palm Pilot! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was twice as fast just to tap at the virtual keyboard.

  39. Steve Jobs on the current iPhone by thegarbz · · Score: 2

    "Who wants a stylus? You have to get 'em, put 'em away, you lose 'em. Yuck! Nobody wants a stylus. So let's not use a stylus." - 2007 Macworld
    "If you see a stylus, they blew it.” - 2010 iOS 4 launch event

    Oh and he has opinions on large phones too:
    "You can't get your hand around it, No one's going to buy that." - October earnings call 2010

    1. Re:Steve Jobs on the current iPhone by mjwx · · Score: 1

      "Who wants a stylus? You have to get 'em, put 'em away, you lose 'em. Yuck! Nobody wants a stylus. So let's not use a stylus." - 2007 Macworld
      "If you see a stylus, they blew it.” - 2010 iOS 4 launch event

      Oh and he has opinions on large phones too:
      "You can't get your hand around it, No one's going to buy that." - October earnings call 2010

      Apple reminds me a lot of Ingsoc... You must always believe what you're told by the inner party even if it contradicts what they said earlier. Styluses are the future, styluses have always been the future.

      Now it's time for the 2 minutes hate on Android.

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    2. Re:Steve Jobs on the current iPhone by hexadecimate · · Score: 1

      Or maybe Steve Jobs was prone to exaggeration sometimes? I can't think that he was a tech visionary unless I also insist he could never be wrong? Oh, okay. Simple little world you live in. Mostly regular shapes and primary colours, I'm guessing. Have fun in there, and try not to bump your head.

    3. Re:Steve Jobs on the current iPhone by iampiti · · Score: 1

      Apple would've released large iPhones even if Steve was still alive. It was a popular trend and even they couldn't ignore it.
      Do I think many current smartphones are too large? Yes, I do. I'd like them to make powerful 5 inch phones again

    4. Re:Steve Jobs on the current iPhone by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Apple would've released large iPhones even if Steve was still alive. It was a popular trend and even they couldn't ignore it.

      Not at all. Phablet and mini tablets were a popular trend long before Steve Jobs died as well. It took his death for Apple to actually start working on an release the iPad mini. Steve jobs was nothing if not relentlessly stubborn when it came to his beliefs. It what made Apple a once great and innovative company. They were never ones for jumping into trends.

    5. Re:Steve Jobs on the current iPhone by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 1

      I do believe he was talking about the need for a stylus as a requisite input device, not a stylus as an optional accessory for specific uses.

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    6. Re:Steve Jobs on the current iPhone by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      He also said that to make a decent usable app for tablet you can't ever have an iPad mini, to use a phone properly it needs to be smaller than the hand. I suggest you don't put the goalposts down, you'll be running backwards and forwards across the entire field with them.

    7. Re:Steve Jobs on the current iPhone by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 1

      I'm not claiming he's never said anything stupid or wrong, just that in this particular case, I think his quote is being misconstrued.

      And out of curiosity, what is with the Internet idea that if a given person ever says a single thing that's later proven wrong, that person is instantly a useless git?

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  40. Running out of ideas by johnsie · · Score: 1

    Looks like Apple and most of the phone making industry have run out of ideas. What they are producing is a bog standard rectangular phone with all the same apps that are on nearly all other phones. Phones are at a point where they have peaked. Slightly faster cpus and slightly better cameras won't justify the cost of an upgrade. People do need phone, but no longer the latest and greatest. App developers want to target as many users as possibe so that means coding apps in such a way that they can well on older hardware.

  41. Re:Standard SD Storage by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

    Ask Samsung I guess, they have been selling phones with SD card slots for a decade.

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  42. flashstorage vs cloud by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    apple wants to sell you their overpriced on-device flash storage since they jack up the price when they add more, but the last ipad i got wants to store everything in the cloud, to the point I have to fight it to load files locally - they can't have it both ways

  43. Re:I lost my pencil, now what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like most I never had a mobile device with stylus except for using the Nintendo DS a bit.
    I've always wanted to have something to hand write notes! (and manage them, sort them by date and topic, plus sync and backup)

    A friend had the Galaxy Note 1, which while huge and high res for its time (5.3" 1280x800) would surely pale in comparison.
    Then it's about software (give me a paper feel for the background, pencil etc. rendering, even change rendering style after the fact). Just drawing like it's MS Paint has little value.
    It would be good if "machine learning" means I can teach it my cursive handwriting. Everything already existed in the 90s but in these times e.g. voice recognition software had you teach it your voice (isn't that "learning"?)

    Even if the hardware from Note 8 or Apple 6.5" are there though, I would like $300-400 and GNU/Linux rather than $1050 with Android and iOS. (this request is relatively outlandish but not that much)

  44. Re: Wow... Retro Palm Pilot! by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

    From my dealings with the Genius Bar with Macs, they almost always used a terminal window and command lines when looking at things on the computer. They definitely knew their Unix commands.

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  45. Supports 512 GB... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...but will be limited to [tinyint] GB by Apple, because "no one needs > [tinyint] of memory".

    Again, what's up with Apple telling people how much memory they need?

    Also, an Apple pencil? Really? If it sounds like a stylus, it looks like a stylus, and it smells like a stylus... it's a pencil!

  46. Re: Wow... Retro Palm Pilot! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Memorize != Know. They follow a script and that is all.

  47. Re: Wow... Retro Palm Pilot! by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

    So you were there when the Genius looked at my Macs? There weren't following a script. They read the case notes, asked me questions, and seemed to be trying to diagnose the problem. But I suppose it's easier for your narrative if they were following a script. Otherwise you'd have to admit that they know what they are talking about.

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