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Alibaba's Jack Ma, China's Richest Man, To Retire From Company He Co-Founded (nytimes.com)

According to The New York Times, Alibaba's co-founder and executive chairman, Jack Ma, is stepping down from the Chinese e-commerce giant on Monday (Warning: source may be paywalled; alternative source) to pursue philanthropy in education. From the report: A former English teacher, Mr. Ma started Alibaba in 1999 and built it into one of the world's most consequential e-commerce and digital payments companies, transforming how Chinese people shop and pay for things. That fueled his net worth to more than $40 billion, making him China's richest man. He is revered by many Chinese, some of whom have put his portrait in their homes to worship in the same way that they worship the God of Wealth.

In an interview, Mr. Ma said his retirement is not the end of an era but "the beginning of an era." He said he would be spending more of his time and fortune focused on education. "I love education," he said. Mr. Ma will remain on Alibaba's board of directors and continue to mentor the company's management. Mr. Ma turns 54 on Monday, which is also a holiday in China known as Teacher's Day. The retirement makes Mr. Ma one of the first founders among a generation of prominent Chinese internet entrepreneurs to step down from their companies.

40 comments

  1. To retire to his child sex dungeon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    Like all Chinese billionaires

  2. A courageous move by rmdingler · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How many people are capable of retiring like Xinshng Ma, at the top of his game, at 54 without injury, disease, or corporate coup?

    Like our vaunted sports heroes, too many corporate demigods stay too long; stagnating, afraid to leave the comforts of the present to move on to the next adventure.

    --
    Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know.

    Ernest Hemingway

    1. Re:A courageous move by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are whispers that the Chinese communist party is coming back in force and targeting billionaires. He may have been pressured to step down, or saw this coming and decided to get out of the way.

    2. Re:A courageous move by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Sports heros" is an oxymoron.

      And you? A regular moron.

      Not a troll.

      The idea that playing sportsball makes you a hero is an offensive idea that would only be embraced by someone lacking in intellectual breadth or intellectual depth.

      What's next? The Esports heros with 2 asses and bad hygiene?

    3. Re:A courageous move by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      I guess any anti-China conspiracy theory sounds plausible to Americans.

      The fact is Jack Ma has been talking about wanting to go back to teaching for years already. It is no secret he mentioned many times he wanted to teach how to run business and his own business started out as a kind of experiment to actually implement the theory he taught in school.

      That didn’t tarnish the fact he is not sidetracked by all the money he has made.

  3. He doesn't need all that money! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He should just give it all to the poor.

  4. Re:Please advise on job boards/sites. by 110010001000 · · Score: 0

    clearancejobs.com

    Thats how I got my $50,000 job in IT in Silicon Valley.

  5. With every Purchase I had with Alibaba.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...I had multiple irritating problems. Most of the issues got resolved.. but it became obvious to me that even at the savings I was getting the amount of hassle I was getting was just not worth it.

  6. Re:he needs penis enlargement surgery by BeauHD++(.)+(349) · · Score: 0

    Same thing can be said about TRUMP.

    We REALLY need to get that man out of the whitehouse. /sigh

  7. When a founder voluntarily retires...SELL! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's one thing when a founder dies or gets kicked out, but when a founder voluntarily quits his own company, you know it's gonna go sideways at best.

  8. Pls send pic bobs and vagene !!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pls bobs !

  9. Alibaba Doesn't Sound Like Chinese To Me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am TRUMP!

  10. (Warning: source may be paywalled; alternative sou by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is this really necessary on every article? Put the free link first.

  11. Re:Please advise on job boards/sites. by rmdingler · · Score: 1
    Lucky bastard!

    That's the equivalent of pulling down a cool $185 a week in West Virginia...

    Champagne wishes and caviar dreams

    --
    Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know.

    Ernest Hemingway

  12. Re:he needs penis enlargement surgery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Agreed, he's going to die in PRISON of old age after being convicted of TREASON. SMALL HANDS is going to be his nickname in CLUB FED.
     
    HRC 2020.

  13. wtf God of Wealth? by magarity · · Score: 2

    There is no "God of Weath". You may be confused about "fat, laughing Buddha" who is often depicted with plenty of money but that's just because he's associated with success and happiness.

    1. Re:wtf God of Wealth? by mentil · · Score: 1

      Lakshmi, Hindu god of wealth. There is a Hindu minority in China.

      --
      Corruption is convincing someone that the selfless ideal is the same as their selfish ideal.
    2. Re:wtf God of Wealth? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're wrong. There's a good of wealth called or Caishen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caishen). Although more than likely it's bullshit that people are worshipping Jack Ma.

    3. Re:wtf God of Wealth? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The word, by definition, refers to transpersonal, e.g. things bigger than you (insensitive clod), ideals. Ideals are meta to physics and meta to language. For example, your idea of what a god is, is a god in and of itself. By your identification with that idea, you may deem it proper to smite me and/or start religious wars and generally seek to become a channel of destructive fire to rain hell on who (the mistaken identification has) you seem fit.

      So if you see a god in print, even if its just a small one, and you feel the urge to trample on it (another person's expression of a transpersonal ideal,) then you're already in the grip of some other god (perhaps reason and rationality in their mythical forms (which contain both divine and hellish forms)) .. and don't really count as an individual anymore. sorry.

      tl;dr; yes you are confused, ignorant and seemingly disrespectful here .. your map of idols is not someone else's territory!

    4. Re:wtf God of Wealth? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People need ideals; The function and role of heroes -- in any and all domains -- is something akin to 'the good father you never had' that guided you into something bigger -- like the person you could be. .. so it's entirely likely that people put up pictures of celebrities to feel themselves grow closer to them. its a for holier/wholesomer?/more refined application of the drive behind watching porn or super-hero action movies.

    5. Re:wtf God of Wealth? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Buddha was a skinny martial artist. Fat god is Hotei

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  14. Re: Please advise on job boards/sites. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If youâ(TM)re qualified for one, you donâ(TM)t need a job board.

  15. Tech Economy by mentil · · Score: 1

    Ma was lucky to get in on the leading edge of a major new industry (electronic retail), just like the other ultra-rich (oil, computer software, internet services.) How many more of these 'major new industries' will be created in the future, before we've turned over every major technological stone which can be uncovered? Eventually we're going to reach a point where we've discovered every major field that will exist, and there will be no hidden wellspring of techno-economic growth just over the horizon; the scary thing is that we will never realize it, it will ALWAYS be believed to be 'just over the horizon'. We have to plan for such a future, no matter how many people insist there will be another 'just over the horizon', otherwise we'll have no path forward if there's ever a drought of new tech.

    --
    Corruption is convincing someone that the selfless ideal is the same as their selfish ideal.
    1. Re:Tech Economy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, remember when the railroad bubble burst back in the 1870s? Some people are still hoping some crazy new thing will come along and grow the economy. Luckily, we're smarter than those naive fools! There are just no new industries possible.

    2. Re: Tech Economy by phantomfive · · Score: 2

      Not a problem. When technology stops advancing, we'll just rewrite everything in Rust and Haskell, that'll do it for a while.

      --
      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    3. Re: Tech Economy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tech is dependent on fundamental research for its future. Currently, US Congress critters are mostly anti-science and think universities should only do applied sciences. There goes the USA's future in tech. Time to move aside and let other countries take over.

    4. Re:Tech Economy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um... lucky? Ma was backed by the Chinese government. They made him a winner. How many other companies like Ma's never got off the ground in China? We only hear about one extreme outlier. What about all the others?

  16. Makes sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With the possibility of lots of tarrifs hitting China by the US in the next few months Alibaba and others like them are going to be seeing several bad quarters or more. Perfect time to step down while your track record isn't tarnished.

    1. Re:Makes sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://www.investopedia.com/a...
      How do you figure that when they are mostly just domestic China market?

  17. Not a fan... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He cost me one of the best jobs I ever had. I hoped to join Yahoo as FTE, but due to bad decisions by the Yahoo C titles and his fraudulent maneuvers they cut the contract to hire folks when Yahoo failed to buy that same payment processing company that made him the wealthy man he is today.

    Honestly, business is business, and Yahoo was out maneuvered in the end. Still it soured me a bit on doing business with China due to their rules. They condemn Chump for "America first" but the truth is that EVERY country puts their country first, and in the case of Jack he put himself and his family first. In the end, I can't condemn him for it. Still... it cost me an awesome job, and IMHO Yahoo never really recovered despite their stock price then and now.

  18. Following Wozniak's example by drnb · · Score: 4, Informative

    He's following the example of Steve Wozniak of Apple fame who left Apple and became a school teacher.

    1. Re:Following Wozniak's example by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's following the example of Steve Wozniak of Apple fame who left Apple and became a school teacher.

      Jack Ma was a school teacher before he launched Alibaba in 1999.

      And unlike that scumbag from JD.com , Jack Ma did not rape anyone.

    2. Re:Following Wozniak's example by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's following the example of Steve Wozniak of Apple fame who left Apple and became a school teacher.

      Jack Ma was a school teacher before he launched Alibaba in 1999.

      But he wasn't a crazy rich former tech CEO at that time. Its only his current wealth and success that makes his becoming a teacher noteworthy. Hence following Wozniak's example.

  19. Re:he needs penis enlargement surgery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Headline: Jack Ma Off.

  20. He already steppded down by phalse+phace · · Score: 2

    This isn't really that big of a deal since he's stepping down as Executive Chairman. He already stepped down as CEO in 2013.

    The CEO is more important than the Executive Chairman since the CEO plays an active day-to-day role in the company's operations.

    Ma wasn't really involved in the company's operations while as chairman.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/alibabas-jack-ma-to-step-down-as-executive-chairman-1536381356

    Mr. Ma started a leadership transition five years ago, when he stepped down as chief executive. Alibaba’s chief executive is Daniel Zhang and the executive vice chairman is Joe Tsai.

    Since stepping down, the charismatic technology billionaire has spent much of his time at Alibaba’s Hangzhou campus receiving visiting dignitaries or traveling the world to speak out on causes he believes in.

  21. The richest man in China... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The richest man in a communist country should not be any richer than the poorest. China is as much a communist county as they are a Martian one.

  22. More like forced retirement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He was still good to go, but there was political pressure. CCP having been on a full court press against their domestic tech industry leaders recently, he simply held out the longest.