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Open Source BeOS Successor Haiku Releases R1/beta 1 (haiku-os.org)
Remember Haiku, the open source successor to the Be operating system? Long-time Slashdot reader GuerillaRadio quotes a new announcement from Haiku-os.org: It's been just about a month less than six years since Haiku's last release in November 2012 -- too long. As a result of such a long gap between releases, there are a lot more changes in this release than in previous ones, and so this document is weightier than it has been in the past. The notes are mostly organized in order of importance and relevance, not chronologically, and due to the sheer number of changes, thousands of smaller improvements simply aren't recognized here.
Please keep in mind that this is beta-quality software, which means it is feature complete but still contains known and unknown bugs. While we are mostly confident in its stability, we cannot provide assurances against data loss.
Please keep in mind that this is beta-quality software, which means it is feature complete but still contains known and unknown bugs. While we are mostly confident in its stability, we cannot provide assurances against data loss.
In six years you'd think they would have a verification test to run.
MINIMUM (32-bit)
Processor: Intel Pentium II; AMD Athlon
Memory: 256MB
Monitor: 800x600
Storage: 3GB
Frankly, those are some heavy requirements. That's even heavier than WinXP requirements! (233MHz/64MB/800x600/1.5GB)
Developers are really spoiled by modern hardware.
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
I realize that nothing's going to cause the lumbering, bumbling elephant to fall any time soon, but any alternative to Windows is welcome. Kudos to the folks who've continued to work on Haiku. I'm looking forward to taking it for a spin.
Ah, that list reminds me of a time when web browsers were not the pointlessly massive resource hogs of today.
Circumcision is child abuse.
On a serious note, why is it taking so long to get proper? Is it just a matter of critical mass, or is the architecture not useful enough? I honestly wanna know. It seems like a fun nostalgia project, but beyond that, I don't see the utility.
BeOS isn't intended for mindless point and drool users who only (and wastefully) use their computers for consumption purposes.
BeOS is still used in many video and audio production studios. A browser that supports all of the superfluous, blingy web crap that is out there now is a low priority for a near realtime, workstation OS with yet unmatched responsiveness and low latency.
BeOS reborn
Many years in the making
Spring comes to the south
Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
Abandon Linux CoC and jump to Haiku where you can still act like a proper Kernal Developer.
Haikiu is truly impressive. It's alpha release was better than anything Reactos has ever produced. The Haiku alpha release would have been labeled a "stable" release 1.0 by most projects. Haiku has a very, very, conservative attitude toward releases. They under-hype which is amazing in and of itself in these times.
> BeOS is still used in many video and audio production studios.
I find that... surprising.
Please keep in mind that this is beta-quality software, which means it is feature complete but still contains known and unknown bugs. While we are mostly confident in its stability, we cannot provide assurances against data loss.
...just like the last several releases of M$ “Windows,” Apple’s ”iMacOSx,” (or whatever they’re calling it this week,) and “iOS,” (which I’ve been quietly amusing myself by reading that word as if it rhymes with bulldoze, phonetically: “aye-ohze,” because frankly, it’s a stupid name, and it deserves to get made fun of).
It’s okay. We’re used to it. All computer & software users are beta testers, nowadays, whether they want to be or not, whether they even realize it or not.
Just release it already.
Our reign has gone on long enough. Indeed. Summon the meteors.
It's Webkit and company responsible for bloating the minimum usable ram requirement to 256 megabytes. And if you compared Windows XP SP3 plus equivalent utilities (including a newer browser than IE7), I bet you would find it being close to that 256 megabyte limit too.
It was an embedded OS for at least one recording/mixing console. Audio/video production is notorious for their "if it ain't broke" mentalities and rarely upgrade for shits and giggles. My buddy owns a recording studio and only just upgraded from his dual G4 powermac, protools/digi002 setup about 5 years ago to a mid-level macbook pro (not sure about his interface, might have upgraded to an 003) because shit just worked and he knew how to do everything he needed to do. The macbook pro has been a champ, though, but he'll be on that until it fails, as well.
My biggest complaint about Haiku OS is that there are no haikus anywhere. Not in the comments, not in the name. Talk about a missed opportunity! I refuse to use any OS that so seriously misrepresents itself.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Because it's simply not true. If it were they would have provided specific examples.
If the media production is CPU heavy, the macbook will die in a year or two. On my previous company all the iOS developers had to replace their macbooks every year as they overheated themselves into dumpster. Those devices are meant only to browse instagram, not to do anything CPU consuming work.
Who is the target audience, and what do they gain when they switch from whatever they're currently using?
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Obligatory XKCD from October 15, 2010.
x86, or x86_64. Doesn't even appear to be a qmake for x86_64? Used to be able to solve this problem by installing the x86 version on a hybrid install, but now there isn't one?
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
I am a BeOS user
and I try hard to be brave
That is a tall order
BeOS's foot is in the grave.
I tap at my toy keyboard
and whistle a happy tune
but keeping happy's so hard,
BeOS died so soon.
Each day I wake and softly sob
Nightfall finds me crying
Not only am I a zit faced slob
but BeOS is dying.
Of all the weird "new" operating systems I ever tried out, I was the most excited about BeOS. I remember Haiku, and the long absence of news from them had me thinking they were gone too. I'm glad to see they're still kicking, and thrilled about R1.