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Honda Will Use GM's Self-Driving Technology, Invest $750 Million In Cruise Startup (arstechnica.com)

Honda announced today that it is investing $750 million in Cruise, the self-driving car startup whose majority shareholder is General Motors. The automotive company is also planning to invest $2 billion over the next 12 years to develop and manufacture self-driving cars based on Cruise's software. Ars Technica reports: Honda has been working on autonomous vehicles since at least 2015, but progress has been slow. In 2015, the company said it hoped to have a partially self-driving car ready by 2020 but that a fully self-driving car won't be ready until the 2030s. In 2017, Honda said it was aiming to offer freeway-only self-driving capabilities in 2020 and then reach "level 4" capability -- cars that are fully self-driving, but only in certain locations and weather conditions -- by 2025. That compares unfavorably to Waymo, which is planning to launch a level 4 taxi service this year. Cruise is aiming to launch a level 4 taxi service next year. Honda's new plan is to build self-driving cars based on Cruise's hardware and software designs. So far, Cruise has focused on modifying the Chevy Bolt for autonomous capabilities. But this new Honda vehicle will be designed from the ground up for autonomous operation.

27 comments

  1. Trump is a traitor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No AI in Federal prison

    1. Re:Trump is a traitor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      creimer's phat booty would be a favorite in the prison showers. It would even give Moscow Don a run for his money for Jamal's and Tyrone's attention.

    2. Re:Trump is a traitor by BeauHD+has++Crohns · · Score: 0

      Honda Will Use GM's Self-Driving Technology, Invest $750 Million In Cruise Startup

      What kind of idiot would blow perfectly good money on a Cruise startup? That imbecile has given up all of his wealth to the Cult of Scientology.

  2. Even Churches say Kavanaugh is raperehensible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  3. Sometimes they struggle in intersections by crgrace · · Score: 0

    I live in a pretty busy part of San Francisco and see Cruise vehicles all the time. A couple of months ago a homeless "adventurer" (as in the young guy with a skateboard and a pitbull who camps out next to the Muni station, rather than the middle aged guy with a shopping cart muttering to himself) decided he wanted to f with the car at a big intersection. He stood in front of it and spread his arms and legs out as if he were a big target. The car pretty much freaked out make tiny, halting movements, until a few seconds later the driver took over.

    My point is, I wonder how they are going to deal with this type of thing. San Francisco, which is pretty much ground zero after Mountain View for self-driving cars, is also chock full of a-holes.

    1. Re:Sometimes they struggle in intersections by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      Nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure?

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    2. Re:Sometimes they struggle in intersections by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      well.

      they'll deal with it with "certain locations" not including places where they get robbed for parts, wheels and such. herding cars. think about it, you can learn to herd them to a side alley and rob it for parts and nobody will care.

      is waymo really saying they'll do fully autonomous taxis? whats their "certain locations" - airport parking lots? it just sounds so much bullshit. even 2025 sounds bullshit.

      I live in Thailand and 2090 is optimistic for "certain locations" to be included into Thailand. with all the dogs, motorbikers(going wrong way), normal drivers(driving unexpectedly expectedly, u turns being the norm for highways instead of multi level intersections), road markings that lead off the road(literally, they move the road but don't take out the old markings) and all.

      What you can have is busses doing slow speed pre-set routes as far as self driving unattended goes - and that includes not having any roadwork etc going on in the route while they operate.

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    3. Re:Sometimes they struggle in intersections by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nuke who, the hobo or the AI?

    4. Re:Sometimes they struggle in intersections by novakyu · · Score: 1

      Sounds like overcorrection.

  4. Orange by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lam!

  5. Sometimes crgrace sounds like a coward. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My point is, you're a spineless coward who spent more time trying to mock homelessness than have a valid point. You suck indoors and out.

    1. Re:Sometimes crgrace sounds like a coward. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Homeless people should be shamed and mocked. Handing them or charities for them money, food, and even actual housing just creates more homeless. Socially enabling or defending this horrible 'choice' is insane.

    2. Re:Sometimes crgrace sounds like a coward. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Torturing Republican nazi faggots like you is God's work. God is hiring.

  6. Reliability.... by Luthair · · Score: 2

    Or maybe Honda has shipped millions of vehicles while still known for reliability and they realize that shipping a half baked product which occasionally runs over a hobo isn't an acceptable product. Does that compare favourably for the silicon valley circle jerk?

    1. Re:Reliability.... by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      you can't have autonomous for decade or few decades in Hondas main markets.

      This autonomous driving race is stupid waste of money. You can't fundamentally make assists into a good enough autonomous driver. the assists are feasible but they're assists.

      Elon sold his assists as autopilot with promises of being autonomous ready EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T FUCKING KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO BE AUTONOMOUS READY(but he needed some more funding so whatever, sell promises to investors)

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    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  8. Rushing it for the Olympics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Too many companies are rushing out projects before the Olympics because all regulatory bodies are turning a blind eye.
    All those tests with a self-driving taxi in Tokyo were a complete scam with a whole enigeering team sitting in some control room, ready to press the brakes.

  9. LOL, waymo-tesla-uber-hubber by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Time for the free market to shaft the CIA creations of "Silicone valley", the advertiser-peddlers, the lying fElons and the tax thieves.

  10. Never by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I never use cruise control because I'm a bad driver.

  11. Thanks for the childish nazi faggot perspective? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why don't you nuke a TV dinner for yourself there BillyCock. Redefine that poverty line a little more each day, Republican trash. Live it.

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  13. A Protest Against Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Slashdot is quietly deleting comments and it is alarming.

    Full disclosure: I am a troll, but like many trolls of the past, I have concerns about Slashdot censorship. I was around when Scientology forced Slashdot to delete a comment, something the editors hated doing. I was around when sllort posted about suspected editor moderation and hundreds of editor mod points were used to reduce an entire massive thread to a score of -1 and anyone who modded up those posts was blacklisted from moderating. I'm not making vague assertions but rather noting that I saw one of my own posts disappear less than 24 hours ago.

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    1. Re: A Protest Against Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure sure as soon as slashdot gives the rest of us the ability to block based on key words I will fully support your uh, right, lol, to troll us with your time wasting shit.

      Until then I wish the editors would remove even more crap without comment so the rest of us can actually have a discussion of value about how autonomous cars are either going to save the world from bad drivers or run us all over.

  14. Where is Hotz ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IIRC Hotz made a self driving Honda 3 years ago.
    WTF have honda been doing all this time ?

  15. God dammit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    GM is shit. Honda isn't. Honda just lowered itself. Disappointing

  16. By Neruos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stupid.

    They should be working with Tesla.

  17. Self Driving Cars Solve No Society Problem by BrendaEM · · Score: 1

    Self driving cars have not evolved to not do stupid things such as not hit pedestrians, parked cars, and pedestrians.
    Drivers need jobs.
    Many people like driving cars.
    If there is a real war, GPS satellites will likely be destroyed, leaving an entire nation stranded and unable to produce product.

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