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Facebook Says Russian Firms 'Scraped' Data, Some for Facial Recognition (wral.com)

An anonymous reader quotes the New York Times: On the same day Facebook announced that it had carried out its biggest purge yet of American accounts peddling disinformation, the company quietly made another revelation: It had removed 66 accounts, pages and apps linked to Russian firms that build facial recognition software for the Russian government. Facebook said Thursday that it had removed any accounts associated with SocialDataHub and its sister firm, Fubutech, because the companies violated its policies by scraping data from the social network. "Facebook has reason to believe your work for the government has included matching photos from individuals' personal social media accounts in order to identify them," the company said in a cease-and-desist letter to SocialDataHub that was dated Tuesday and viewed by The New York Times...

As Facebook is taking a closer look at its own products amid increasing scrutiny and public outcry, it is increasingly finding examples of companies that have been exploiting its global social network for questionable ends.... Artur Khachuyan, the 26-year-old chief executive of SocialDataHub and Fubutech, said in an interview Friday that Fubutech scraped data from the web, particularly Google search and the Russian search engine Yandex, to build a database of Russian citizens and their images that the government can use for facial recognition. "We don't know exactly what they do with it," he said.... At one point in a 30-minute phone interview, he said the Russian Defense Ministry was a client but later said he could not name Fubutech's government clients.

The two Russian companies have been around for over four years, "relying in part on Facebook data," the Times reports.

"At the top of the SocialDataHub's website, there is a single line: 'We know everything about everybody.'"

41 comments

  1. Wait a sec by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Isn't scraping data for facial recognition, such as to identify them in other photos where they haven't been tagged, Facebook's bread and butter?

    Seems like having unknown companies all up in your shit is what Facebook users love and voluntarily participate in.

  2. This'll Be Illustrative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Slashdot seems to be overflowing with Russian trolls. this thread should be illustrative.

    Although, I gotta say, this just seems like Facebook deflecting. Blame the bogie man!

    1. Re: This'll Be Illustrative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We only have AHuxley, bogaboga and a new one, I75BJC with the oh-so-funny "Russians also did this" so far.

    2. Re: This'll Be Illustrative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or are US/UK gov disinfo agents the ones winning this game?

  3. Easier implementation than expected by Empiric · · Score: 1

    Now the "mark on your forehead" doesn't even require opt-in.

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  4. We're Glad You're Home! by I75BJC · · Score: 0

    My dogs messed in the hallway. When I confronted them about their unacceptable behaviour, they stated, "We're glad you're home! The Russians pooped in the hallway." Facebook has been in bed with the "Russians" and NOW they're complaining?

    1. Re:We're Glad You're Home! by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      That didn't take long...

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      Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
    2. Re:We're Glad You're Home! by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 1

      Facebook definition of disinformation: Anything favorable to Republicans.

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      SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
  5. Social media needed a news change by AHuxley · · Score: 2

    Removes users who talk about US news and politics.
    Next news cycle is all about Russians looking at images?

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    Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
    1. Re: Social media needed a news change by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yes Alexei, they're both news but your naughty government is up to no good again.

      He said Fubutech scraped data from the web, particularly Google search and the Russian search engine Yandex, to build a database of Russian citizens and their images that the government can use for facial recognition. âoeWe donâ(TM)t know exactly what they do with it,â he said.

    2. Re:Social media needed a news change by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Right on cue...

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      Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
  6. FUBU Tech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FUBU Tech? That almost sounds like it was named by a GNAA troll. Ugh.

  7. why do merkins always whinge about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    other governments and companies just behaving the same as your government and 3 letter agencies?

    1. Re:why do merkins always whinge about by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Social media over a generation will show who went to what US/UK university.
      Who was in the mil, who was at what event years ago when their created resume never mentioned such a unique past.
      Such open data sets make the role of MI6, the CIA difficult as generations can then be tracked back to discover their actual level of education and mil service.
      Hard work to place an embassy worker doing very average work when social media had the same person at a top US university doing advanced math and crypto.

      Very few people and isolated faith group/cults had no use of social media. A university photo, a work photo, a photo with mil friends, a photo with party political active friends, a holiday photo. That one holiday image that puts back a past of wealth and education.

      The other part is the creation and altering of a persons social media past to fit their new resume. Removing their education, adding created friends of friends. The ability to backdate social media only works if nobody has all the real time information.
      That only works if another nation did not keep years of the same past images in real time and can find the original later removed images.
      Work out that no such social media account existed years in the past.

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      Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
  8. Those Russians must be very skilled... by bogaboga · · Score: 1, Informative

    "Facebook has reason to believe your work for the government has included matching photos from individuals' personal social media accounts in order to identify them," the company said in a cease-and-desist letter to SocialDataHub that was dated Tuesday and viewed by The New York Times...

    Indeed...they must be very skilled & have lots of time too. What won't the Russians do these days?

    To make matters worse, it's the New York Times that confirms...

    Yeah right...The New York Times.

    I am about to have big yaaawn!!

    1. Re: Those Russians must be very skilled... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No comrade, is Artur Khachuyan who confirm it.

      "At one point in a 30-minute phone interview, he said the Russian Defense Ministry was a client but later said he could not name Fubutech's government clients."

    2. Re:Those Russians must be very skilled... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't get how they know Russia did this. Heck, I'd like to scrape Facebook data some day. Even if it's coming from a Russian IP though, doesn't mean Russia did it. If you're scraping and you know you shouldn't, obviously you'll be doing it through a throw-away VPN or two. (BTW, this is why you provide useful APIs, to prevent people from consuming resources doing this to you. Don't do stupid crap like charge massive amounts of money to use your API, or I'll just scrape your data instead. Looking at you, Twitter.)

    3. Re:Those Russians must be very skilled... by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      And now for the trifecta...

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    4. Re:Those Russians must be very skilled... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can't tell if serious or not...

  9. Google grabs photos too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I used to host a photo gallery on the internet. This was when google was fairly young and I wasn't too worried about my privacy.
    This was before google-chrome or chromium existed or even Android.
    Google found it.
    A stalker found it.
    Every other web indexer found it too.

    Took the gallery off the internet. Learned that lesson, thankfully it was well before social networks were popular.
    Next was avoiding photos and asking friends never to tag me in any photos without permission. Not being on FB, TW, IG, G+ or any of the 50 other social networks has been a plus too.

    The point, don't be stupid with your data, metadata, or photos.

  10. Woops! Typo! by hackus · · Score: 1

    We (Facebook) Russian scraped some of your data and sold it!

    There fixed it for ya.

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  11. Zuck did this when he created The Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What I find so funny is that Zuckerberg scraped the student photos off of the school's web site when he created "The Facebook" back in his college days.

    1. Re: Zuck did this when he created The Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah but he hasn't put anyone in the gulag yet, let alone suicided them.

    2. Re: Zuck did this when he created The Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This isn't about Russians -- it's about the rules that apply to ALL Facebook accounts. What the AC is pointing out is the hypocrisy of users not being allowed to "scrape" data off FB.

  12. If you don't need it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah that's why you DONT COLLECT THAT

  13. When is facebook banning themselves? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They do this also, oh wait, they made the platform, it's OK for them to do it right?

  14. How about China? by yuriklastalov · · Score: 1

    How many Chinese "firms" (read: Chinese government) scraped our precious data too?

    Oh wait, China is the good authoritarian dictatorship. Not like those evil, sneaky Russians. China is a good boy, they dindu nuffin!

  15. new client by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.gate-fast.com/2018/10/aktivitas-facebook-anda-memengaruhi.html

  16. Re: It's the Russian's, stupid! Always! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you want to say it's not the Russians just go ahead and say it's not the Russians. Don't go beating around the bush like that, it's not dignified.

  17. Read SocialDataHub Post here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Man Under the Big Data Cap: Can I Protect Personal Information?

    On February 20, within the framework of the lecture project of the Foundation Yegor Gaidar, the presentation of the General Director of SocialDataHub Artur Khachuyan was held. During the lecture, Mr. Khachuyan talked about how personal data of users of social networks, blogs and forums can be used by third parties, as well as how to protect your information. The moderator of the event was the economic observer Boris Grozovsky. Details of the expert lecture are in the “Kommersant” video and transcript of the report.

    A lecture transcript

    Thanks for joining. I call myself a professional datavore. Because now the main fear of all people is that some evil corporations or some evil state use its data and profit from this. But the good news is that there is no single super-corporation that owns all the information. Yes, Uber knows about your moves, Sberbank knows how much money you spend on potatoes. But there is still no one who would know both that and that. My approach is to find out all kinds of information from public sources. Therefore, today I will talk about what you can learn about a person from open sources, with a couple of interesting examples. And then we smoothly move on to the story of how to protect yourself from preventing all these evil government or corporate algorithms from learning your secrets or using them for their own purposes.

    https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kommersant.ru%2Fdoc%2F3549191&edit-text=&act=url

  18. Facebook thinks this makes them the good guys!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Somehow, kikebook, who irresponsibly and immorally collected this information without even spending enough money to properly protect it, thinks their the good guys in this situation? That's rich. Zuckerberg and his jews had better pray to their god Lucifer that there is no heaven and hell.

  19. Bellingcat next by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are much celebrated fact checking investigative IS linked companies and NGOs like Bellingcat. What are they doing other than scraping Facebook pics? Why are they not yet banned?

    1. Re: Bellingcat next by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's a difference between using social media to investigate particular people and downloading everyone's details for a massive database.

      Are you worried that Bellingcat will track you down like those other Putinbots? Will they identify you before the FBI do?

  20. Yeah but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, but some idiotic neckbeard on Slashdot and a bunch of bought accounts are saying fake news and modding each other +5 Insightful.

    Who am I to believe?

  21. And yet many of these accounts have nothing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...to do with Russia. Perilous times ahead.

  22. Some people posting here really are by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    I've information vegetable, animal, and mineral,
    I know the kings of England, and I quote the fights historical
    From Marathon to Waterloo, in order categorical;[a]
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    About binomial theorem I'm teeming with a lot o' news, (bothered for a rhyme)
    With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse.

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    I know the scientific names of beings animalculous:
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    I quote in elegiacs all the crimes of Heliogabalus,
    In conics I can floor peculiarities parabolous;
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    I know the croaking chorus from The Frogs of Aristophanes!
    Then I can hum a fugue of which I've heard the music's din afore, (bothered for a rhyme)[b]
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    And tell you ev'ry detail of Caractacus's uniform:[c]
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    In short, when I've a smattering of elemental strategy – (bothered for a rhyme)
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    But still, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral,
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