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Google Is Closing Its Schaft Robotics Unit (techcrunch.com)

Google's parent company Alphabet is closing down Schaft, its secretive unit that develops bipedal robots aimed at helping out in disaster efforts. The news was first reported by Nikkei, but Alphabet confirmed to TechCrunch that the business will be shuttered. It said it is helping staff find new roles, most of which will likely be outside of Google and its Alphabet parent. TechCrunch reports: The company was scheduled to be sold to SoftBank alongside Boston Dynamics -- another of Alphabet's robotics ventures -- through a deal that was announced last year. Boston Dynamics made the transition but Schaft didn't. Softbank never shouted that omission from the rooftops, but a source with knowledge of the deal told us that certain conditions agreed for the deal were not fulfilled, hence Schaft remained with Alphabet. Our source explained that Alphabet's robotics focused shifted away from Schaft and instead to non-humanoid robots and industry-led solutions such as robotic arms.

The departure of Andy Rubin, the controversial robotics evangelist who reportedly got a $90 million payout to leave amid sexual misconduct allegations, seemed to speed up its demise inside the organization. Alphabet shopped the Schaft business fairly widely -- since 2016 and after the SoftBank deal collapsed -- but to no avail, we understand. That left closing it down as the last remaining option.

77 comments

  1. no surprise by MancunianMaskMan · · Score: 2

    no wonder they got s(c)hafted witrh a name like this...

    1. Re:no surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's the name of a robot company in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patlabor.

    2. Re:no surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Deprecated.

    3. Re:no surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tentacles?

    4. Re: no surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Combat!

    5. Re: no surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Awwww come here you cutey tentacles! I just wuv your pwetty tentacles. Put dem on me!

    6. Re:no surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. Google is a 4 letter word. Brand poison for me.

    7. Re:no surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google is a 4 letter word.

      Hmmm.... methinks something is a bit off in this statement...

  2. Well ... by nospam007 · · Score: 2

    Richard Roundtree will not be happy.

    1. Re:Well ... by Darinbob · · Score: 3, Insightful

      We're talking about Schaft.

  3. Schaft! by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

    Can you dig it?

    --
    #DeleteChrome
    1. Re: Schaft! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perfect!

    2. Re: Schaft! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod parent up funny. Common moderators!

  4. SoftBank such a turd... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They invest in any loser from Yahoo, to Boston Dynamics, to Saudi Arabia. Now they want to go public and leave your 401k holding the bag, haha.

  5. Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Softbank didn't bite? That project must have been a real loser...

  6. I guess with the departure of Andy Rubin by bobstreo · · Score: 2

    the demand for sex-bots wasn't high enough anymore. /s

    1. Re:I guess with the departure of Andy Rubin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the demand for sex-bots wasn't high enough anymore. /s

      maybe they were put out of buisness by the lisa tronic 3000 ? :-)

    2. Re:I guess with the departure of Andy Rubin by bobstreo · · Score: 1

      the demand for sex-bots wasn't high enough anymore. /s

      maybe they were put out of buisness by the lisa tronic 3000 ? :-)

      I'll stick with the Cherry 2000

  7. They probably didn't want to work on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    weaponizing the thing. And that's where the money comes from in the US of A, building freedom-distributing bombs.

  8. Re: Zach Patterson / ZIP "Greatest Hits" (lol, not by Type44Q · · Score: 1

    Sounds like a personal problem.

  9. Patlabor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, that's a win for Shinohara Heavy Industries.

    1. Re: Patlabor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does anyone know, just in general, when another firm, maybe a Microsoft or an amazon or something might start a similar project?

  10. But Google does no evil? Does it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stuff like this makes me wonder if Google is just incapable of keeping things on the up and up with secretive projects. Does it just throw a bunch of money at them and leaves them to themselves? Much of Google's failures come from lack of oversight and project expectations.

    1. Re: But Google does no evil? Does it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They had interest from the army. The army chief of staff was on leave and couldnâ(TM)t review the contract but google wouldnt wait for them to return.

  11. Shut Your Mouth!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That robotics unit Schaft is a bad mother...
    SHUT YOUR MOUTH!
    Just talkin' 'bout Schaft

  12. Re:Zach Patterson / ZIP = "better programmer" - no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WOW, just wow. You have some serious personal issues you need to take care off. I assume you created a bot to make all these multiple postings in all these Slashdot headlines because if you're doing this BY HAND (but hopefully copypasta) then you REALLY-REALLY have some sad psychological issues that require intense professional help.

  13. Yeah, they got served! It's already been broughten by gerald.edward.butler · · Score: 1

    > The departure of Andy Rubin, the controversial robotics evangelist who reportedly got a $90 million payout to leave amid sexual misconduct allegations, seemed to speed up its demise inside the organization.

    Sweet! Another WIN for the #metoo movement.

  14. Re: Zach Patterson / ZIP "Greatest Hits" (lol, no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I got mah own personal iPhone app that doubles as a therapist and (wait for it) a party plannuh- mmm mmm mmm

  15. Re: Google bored with old toy. Wants new toy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google labs stuff, albeit funded by the market, vs a monopoly, is the 2000s version of AT&Ts Bell Labs. You know, Unix, transistor, background radiation, etc Bell Labs.

    These are both the same situations : both parent orgs put off scads of cash. In ad words and phone calls annuity for Google and AT&T respectively. Everything. Everything, else is dabbling.

    The DIFFERENCE and I don't understand why this is, is that the Google labs seems to focus on "cool" - as the parent says, toy - projects, and bell labs seems to have focused on fundamental research.

    History will be the judge of which research approach "worked." Right now the clear winner - purely IMO - is Bell Labs.

  16. The Robot Revolution by sdinfoserv · · Score: 2

    Given that Google can’t make this a viable business model, its clear there’s no impending “robot revolution” just about to displace millions of workers via automation. Like most things, fear and hype are fed by the ignorant

    1. Re:The Robot Revolution by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      Given that Google can’t make this a viable business model, its clear there’s no impending “robot revolution” just about to displace millions of workers via automation. Like most things, fear and hype are fed by the ignorant

      But there could be a severe impending shortage of cool YouTube videos of running robots.

      Think of the children!

    2. Re:The Robot Revolution by philmarcracken · · Score: 1

      its clear there’s no impending “robot revolution” just about to displace millions of workers via automation. Like most things, fear and hype are fed by the ignorant

      Human evolution is slower than the robotic one. They were easy to laugh at when it was just an arm on an assembly line; the equvilent of sticking your hand in a dark room and having to be precise. Whole lot of failure in setting them up and keeping them accurate.
      Nowadays machine learning is giving them eyes. The arm can see what its doing. Humans like to think we're pretty clever individually but in reality we just build on what others have done before us. The vast majority are only valued as an arm connected to an eyeball.

      And these arms and eyes don't need sleep, wages or sue for getting their arms lopped off.

    3. Re:The Robot Revolution by sdinfoserv · · Score: 1

      Ya, manufacturing tried that - remember "Saturn! A new kind of car, a new kind of company!"... Relied heavily on automation to reduce expenses.... where is Saturn now? gone....
      For any dynamic automation to work, you need true AI. We're decades away from true, real, AI. What we have today is "task programming". The task of converting speech to text with zero grasp of context, meaning or relationships. suggestions are nonsensical, auto-correct is hilarious. nope, no IA there...
      The "task" of driving a car, with zero understating of why it's going to x destination.
      Don't confuse algorithms with with self learning, self adjusting synapses and dynamic physical changes as all brains self modify as they learn.
      When your self driving car notices your garage door needs adjustment, or that you need to refill the cat box in the garage (because it 'noticed'), without these being added as code rule constructs, then you might have something.

  17. Re: Zach Patterson / ZIP = "better programmer" - n by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wanna hear a secret? I buy my therapist pretty Christmas presents. He then gives me the quick therapy and I donâ(TM)t have to spend months telling him how I feel about every little thing. And Im savin money to tip my barista too.

  18. Re:Yeah, they got served! It's already been brough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So true. How dare women in the workplace think they are equal-status employees to their male colleagues and not the boss' fuck toys. How dare they not shut their mouths about being sexually harrassed at work.

    Lets round up the incels MRAs and start a tiki torch march! How dare these jew... errr... "globalists" try to replace us!

  19. Re: Zach Patterson / ZIP "Greatest Hits" (lol, no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes. How come nobody reviews these spammy posts

  20. Re:Yeah, they got served! It's already been brough by gerald.edward.butler · · Score: 1

    Try some Vagisil if your pussy is hurting.

  21. Re: Zach Patterson / ZIP = "better programmer" - n by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It sounds like you are avoiding the therapy and then feel like you're beating the system. Just move on. Let this go. You're arguing with nobody.

  22. Re:Yeah, they got served! It's already been brough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    broughten

    What the actual fuck is 'broughten'?

    Honestly, please keep your illiteracy and stupidity to yourself.

    God Slashdot became a shithole once we rolled into 7-digit IDs.

  23. oh dear by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 2

    What will we do with one less company making cool youtube videos of bipedal robots?

  24. Re:Yeah, they got served! It's already been brough by gerald.edward.butler · · Score: 1

    If you weren't such a cowardly fucking pedophile you'd know that it is a pop-culture reference dumb-ass. Now, stop diddling children and go fucking kill yourself moron.

  25. Re:Yeah, they got served! It's already been brough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh look, another CHILD MOLESTING IMPERSONATOR COWARD who can't stand up for his words, but, can cower in the shadows sniping at its betters! Go flog yourself to death! You are irrelevant, ineffectual, and cowardly. You must be a child molester because only child molesters cower in the shadows like you. Stop being a passive-aggressive, cunt, pussy, fag, pedophile. Stand up and be a man. Weak bitch!

    the gerald butler impersonator

  26. Re:Yeah, they got served! It's already been brough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I told you, stop sucking the dicks of 12 year old boys. It's RAPE you fucking child molester. Come out of the shadows you cowardly fucking shill!

    the gerald butler impersonator

  27. Re:Yeah, they got served! It's already been brough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you weren't such a cowardly fucking pedophile

    Oh, look .. someone so goddamn stupid they have exactly one insult to hurl.

    Listen you dumb sack of shit, I don't give a fuck about your stupid fucking internet memes, and don't give a fuck what a whiny little pussy like you thinks. Dumb-ass pop culture references just mark you as being a dumb ass.

    So why don't you take your butt plug out of your ass, plug it into your mouth, and shut the fuck up.

    Stop acting like you're some big tough guy on the internet, or at least do us the courtesy of going around doing that in real life so that eventually someone like me will knock your ass to the ground and relieve you of some fucking teeth.

    You fucking little punks who just think being a straight on asshole all of the time on the internet really need to learn some manners.

    Because sooner or later, you're going to get seriously hurt. Trust me, you'll deserve it.

  28. Re:Yeah, they got served! It's already been brough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess the fucking point is that you are a coward who is afraid to stand up for their own words. You cower in the corner, balled up in the fetal position licking your own asshole instead of standing up for something. You are a failure in life. Feel free to kill yourself and rid the world of one more useless anonymous child-molesting coward who has nothing meaningful to say and is too cowardly to take ownership of their own words.

    Also, you suck at trolling!

    the gerald butler impersonator

  29. Re:Yeah, they got served! It's already been brough by gerald.edward.butler · · Score: 1

    I told you to stop sucking your own dick. Fuck you. I think pop-culture references are humorous. Your the fucking faggotty shild molester who attacks people like a coward from the shadows. I've posted my name and address. I post as my name. You can fuck yourself. If you want to teach me a lesson, then, hitchhike your ass over here by giving blow-jobs to truck drivers like you always do and teach me a lesson. Fucking twat! Go fuck yourself.

  30. Re:Yeah, they got served! It's already been brough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    W--aaaaaah! The CHILD MOLESTING IMPERSONATOR COWARD missed his chance to sexually assault and humiliate another prepubescent boy tonight! Go Fuck Yourself! You suck at trolling.

    When you grow a pair and can stand up and stand behind your words you might actually be a worthwhile human being. Until then, you are garbage to be trampled under my feet.

    Fuck Off!

    the gerald butler impersonator

  31. Re:Yeah, they got served! It's already been brough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you talk to people like this in real life? Or are you just a raging asshole on the internet and a fucking incel pansy in real life?

    Because you seem like a real candidate for a serious beating.

    If you aren't talking to people like you would in real life, shut the fuck up and stop pretending.

    Me, in real life, I'd make the same threats to hurt you as the previous AC did.

    You're a loudmouth punk, grow up.

  32. Re:Yeah, they got served! It's already been brough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Great comeback, incel. Need me to buy you a new tiki torch and khakis? I hear yours got destroyed last year.

  33. Re:Yeah, they got served! It's already been brough by gerald.edward.butler · · Score: 1

    do you only threaten violence from cowardly anonymity? Last night, while you were finger-banding your Mom and sucking your dad's dick, you should've taken the time to look in the mirror.

    Yes, I talk to assholes like you exactly like this in person. No, you wouldn't do shit. You're a fucking cowardly little jizz-bucket and you know it. Everyone knows it. Now, go swallow all the cum you have in your mouth from sucking off male-crack-whores before you choke to death on it.

    Also, stop messing around with children. It's bad enough that you traumatized your own children, but, you need to leave other people's children the fuck alone.

    You're dismissed.

  34. Re:Yeah, they got served! It's already been brough by gerald.edward.butler · · Score: 1

    Yes, yes, I know you're jealous that you've never been within 10 miles of an adult pussy, but, that is no reason for you to keep fucking around with children. Now stop stop you fucking pedo.

    Now, go swallow the shit you have in your mouth.

    While your at it, buy a gun, load it, put it in your mouth, and pull the trigger. The world will be a better place for it.

  35. Re:Yeah, they got served! It's already been brough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's so weird that your'e such a faggoty, child-molesting, cowardly bitch who balls up in the fetal position and sucks his own dick while chanting, "make the bad man stop" instead of being a man and posting under your real name. Loser!

    the gerald butler impersonator

  36. Re:Yeah, they got served! It's already been brough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Child Molesting Impersonator Cowards like yourself should shut the fuck up until you pay penance for all the children you've molested anonymously.

    the gerald butler impersonator

  37. Figures by Locke2005 · · Score: 2

    So the employees are getting the Schaft?

    --
    I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
  38. It was a culture fit problem by Drunkulus · · Score: 1

    They are not looking to place the staff in other roles at Google, likely due to their refusal to build out the robot command code in Go or Ruby (running in Docker of course).

  39. Re:Yeah, they got served! It's already been brough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Last night, while you were finger-banding your Mom

    Nah dude, that was your mom ... I'll send you a link to the video if you want. And your dad sucks a mean cock.

    Wow, you are batshit crazy, entirely fixated on child molestation, incest, and men sucking cock.

    So basically you're a frustrated wannabe nazi, who really wants to be cuckholded, wants to lash out over your own sexual abuse as a child at the hands of your parents, and can only reach the intellectual level of accusing everyone else of being exactly what you are.

    Careful your little nazi buddies don't find out, or they'll really bust open your ass like the fudge packing rapists they are.

    You literally have only one range of insult which tells me you're not that bright and mostly following the whiny nazi incest survivor republican handbook. If you weren't so pathetic I might feel sorry for you. How boringly one-dimensional of a loser can you be?

    Have you started wearing women's clothes yet? Or are you still working up the nerve? I bet you really want someone to tell you you've got a pretty mouth like your daddy used to.

    You're dismissed.

    You're a punk.

    You're going to be entertaining as fuck to rile up because you believe your own bullshit -- apparently at any given moment you're a half a step away from being completely irrational and frothing at the mouth.

    Enjoy your weekend, creampuff ... once I've spun you up enough, I might even let you suck my dick, because that's clearly what you crave the most.

    If you're really good, I'll find some big black cocks to pull a train on you ... because all loudmouths like you really want that. You know you want to be passed around like the whore your daddy told you to act like, you're practically begging for it. They'll push your shit in so far you'll be coughing corn.

    Sadly, there won't be any cuddling afterwards, I know how you whiny little nazi punks desperately crave the cuddling, especially after a bunch of big black cocks.

    Now run along and go cry on your pillow about how unfair the world is for losers like you.

    But don't touch yourself, Santa is watching, and you know what happens to naughty little boys. Though, judging by how emasculated you feel, maybe we should cut off your balls and then you can be the little girl your dad treated you like.

  40. Re:Yeah, they got served! It's already been brough by gerald.edward.butler · · Score: 1

    You are really getting yourself worked up aren't you? Did I hit a nerve with you? You know, De Nile ain't just a river in Africa!

    Go see your therapist! You need a few more pills. Calm down. Tighten that straight-jacket. Everything will be OK. The bad man will stop scaring you.

    Please, I beg you, turn yourself into the police. Get some help. It's not good what you are doing. Lay off the children!

  41. Re:Yeah, they got served! It's already been brough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, yes, I know you're jealous that you've never been within 10 miles of an adult pussy, but, that is no reason for you to keep fucking around with children. Now stop stop you fucking pedo.

    Now, go swallow the shit you have in your mouth.

    While your at it, buy a gun, load it, put it in your mouth, and pull the trigger. The world will be a better place for it.

    the gerald butler impersonator

  42. Re:Yeah, they got served! It's already been brough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Awww, this incel is so cute. Yeah, I'm sure you're slaying pussy left and right... NOT. A fifi doll is the closest to a pussy besides your mom when being born that you've ever been.

  43. Re:Yeah, they got served! It's already been brough by gerald.edward.butler · · Score: 1

    Now, now. Stop projecting your own insecurities and foibles onto others. Go wash your fifi doll. It's getting gross.

    Since you were birthed (shit) out of your father's asshole, you didn't get to see a pussy even at birth. Just to let you know, and asshole isn't a pussy.

    Now kowtow to your superior. If you stop being such a cunt, I'll let you lick my boots clean.

    You're dismissed.

  44. Re:Yeah, they got served! It's already been brough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Child Molesting Impersonator Cowards like yourself should shut the fuck up until you pay penance for all the children you've molested anonymously.

    the gerald butler impersonator

  45. Zach Patterson / ZIP "Greatest Hits" (lol, not) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I'm a much better programmer than APK" - by Anonymous Coward ZIP on Monday October 08, 2018 @11:27PM (#57449082)

    BIG TALK - ZIP has nothing to show in programs.

    I can https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

    (From registered /.ers liking/using/praising my work (& 100k users worldwide too) - He can't!)

    "ZIP" (Zach Patterson) tried to take credit for what I solved before him https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

    (He says he can code? I don't see it & DOUBT IT - he even needs to LEARN TO READ)

    I even show 2 ways to do it YOURSELF https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... (he couldn't).

    Delphi/FreePascal/ObjectPascal HAS no issue w/ null-term'd string bufferoverflows https://developers.slashdot.or... - C does, C++ can UNLESS you do what I said 1st loser.

    He likes CODE SIGNING (that's been STOLEN & ABUSED) https://www.helpnetsecurity.co...

    MY METHOD CAN'T BE (upmodded +2 INTERESTING in CODING FOR DEFCON no less) https://it.slashdot.org/commen...

    LIAR ZIP says he has no account "I don't have an account, so I don't have mod points" https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

    Yet LIAR ZIP says he downmods my posts (IMPOSSIBLE MINUS AN ACCOUNT on /.): "I down-modded a few of your post on other threads" - by Anonymous Coward "ZIP" on Thursday October 11, 2018 @11:31AM (#57461058) FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    APK

    P.S.=> KEEP IMPERSONATING ME https://science.slashdot.org/c... - this comes out every time EXPOSING your BLOWHARD incompetence... apk

  46. Am I the only one by genfail · · Score: 1

    Who's the black private dick, That's a sex machine to all the chicks? (Schaft) You're damn right. Who is the robot that would risk his neck for his brother, man? (Schaft) Can ya dig it? Who's the cat that won't cop out when there's danger all about? (Schaft) Right on. You see this cat Schaft is a bad mother- (Shut your mouth) But I'm talkin' about Schaft. (Then we can dig it) He's a complicated robot but no one understands him but his programmer. (Google Schaft)

  47. Do not join Softbank Borg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can appreciate why the employees would be hesitant to join Softbank, after the epic management failures after Softbank acquired Aldeberan (makers of the Pepper robot). While some people claim the failures were an epic culture clash between HQ engineers and Aldebaran's french engineers, there were other issues at play. Knowing that, I would be hesitant too.

    Though, one wonders what will happen to the key IP/patent work of Shaft surrounding advanced all electric actuator tech, which is what attracted Google/Rubin in the first place. Did Softbank get their claws on that, or will Alphabet retain the IP for further licensing? As I understood it, the actuators were well suited to humanoid type robots. Or did it migrate to Boston Dynamics while under Google's umbrella (see Spot Mini articulation), which means Softbank has access to it now?