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A Look at the Growing Popularity Of Closed and Secret Groups on Facebook and How Some Media Outlets Have Built an Engaging Audience There (medium.com)

Ryan Holmes, writing on Medium: Back in March of last year, Conde Nast Traveler did something a little unusual in the social media universe. They played hard to get. Instead of courting new followers with clickbait and promo codes, the company required that interested people apply to get into their closed Facebook Group, focused on female travelers. To be considered for membership, applicants had to explain why the Group was important to them, and show an understanding of the community guidelines. Today, the Women Who Travel Facebook Group counts more than 50,000 members. And it boasts a level of activity many brands could only dream of -- three-quarters of users are active on a daily basis. The initiative has been so successful, in fact, that Conde Nast has since extended Facebook Groups across eight of its brands, including The New Yorker, Vanity Fair, Allure, BRIDES, Golf Digest, SELF and Teen Vogue.

The Facebook Group is nothing new. Spaces for like-minded people to congregate and discuss specific subjects -- from hobbies to pets and celebrities -- date in one form or another to the platform's earliest days. These Groups have long been segmented into three classes: open (or general admission), closed (requiring admin approval for new members) and secret (invisible to outside search and accessible only with a direct link). But for a combination of technical and cultural reasons, Groups are suddenly having their moment. (Apart from Facebook, LinkedIn revamped its own Groups offering this fall for its 500-plus million users, adding the ability to share pics and videos, as well as receive comment notifications.) In the past year alone, Facebook Group membership is up 40 percent, with 1.4 billion people -- more than half of Facebook's massive user base -- now using Groups every month. Of those, 200 million people belong to so-called "meaningful Groups," considered a vital part of users' daily lives.

46 comments

  1. Female travel group by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As I understand it, the only demographic on Facebook that isn’t shrinking (in terms of hours spent on the platform) is middle-age-and-older women. So the success of a private Facebook group which panders to that particular audience may have less to do with the group strategy than with the particular audience they’re targeting.

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    1. Re:Female travel group by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, it self-selects for the kind of people who would apply to join a Facebook group. Of course they’re more engaged than the average. My half-sister is a bit of a trust-fund baby (unluckily for me, on the side we don’t share), and she would totally do this shit. She’s done all-women neo-pagan Stonehenge visits and such (and she’s not lesbian, just goofy).

    2. Re: Female travel group by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Definitely a nice niche. Keeping the group closed would definitely cut down trolling.

      Nice to hear that FB private groups are being used for something positive and constructive. Last time I read about FB private groups was for guys in the USA military passing around nude or sexual pictures of female officers...

    3. Re:Female travel group by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, it self-selects for the kind of people who would apply to join a Facebook group. Of course they’re more engaged than the average. My half-sister is a bit of a trust-fund baby (unluckily for me, on the side we don’t share), and she would totally do this shit. She’s done all-women neo-pagan Stonehenge visits and such (and she’s not lesbian, just goofy).

      Does she have big tits?

  2. Just remember the Groucho rule by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Don't belong to any club that would have you as a member.

  3. Déjà vu by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 4, Informative

    Spaces for like-minded people to congregate and discuss specific subjects -- from hobbies to pets and celebrities -- date in one form or another to the platform's earliest days.

    It's called online forums and predates Facebook itself by decades.

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    1. Re:Déjà vu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's called Usenet Newsgroups and predates Facebook itself by decades.

      FTFY

    2. Re:Déjà vu by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's called clubs and predates the Internet by decades.

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    3. Re: Déjà vu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      It called Grok Cave and it best cave. What Facebook Cave?

    4. Re: Déjà vu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ook-oko, ook! Okk-kook-ko!

    5. Re:Déjà vu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whatever you call it, I'm just happy something seems to have come in to replace a bunch of forums I used to visit that have been slowly dying over the last few years.

      Of course I'd be happier with a newsgroup, but with a tiny number of exceptions they effectively died decades ago.

    6. Re:Déjà vu by coastwalker · · Score: 1

      It is called "joining a secret cult" and predates everyone alive today. SUCKERS!

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    7. Re: Déjà vu by jd · · Score: 1

      I'm a time lord. I can predate it tomorrow.

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    8. Re:Déjà vu by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Basically yes, the core element of a cult ie you are special and you can join, other who are not special can not join, to remain special buy product (they don't mention the buy product bit, that is built into the advertising). So it is the scam of pretend exclusivity, only the special people have exclusive access, well, to be sucked in. So in psychopathic marketing ethos, the real scam is to create an infinite number of special groups, that each member in each group they are special and have exclusive access but in reality every group is identical. They will probably do some matchmaking to ensure the groups align but it is all a psychological manipulation targeted at ego.

      You remain special as long as you continue to buy and support, should you stop, you become an instant peer rejected shit stain.

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    9. Re:Déjà vu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, this is not what a cult is. You don't have to "buy", as in hand over money, to be in a cult.

      A cult can also be an exclusive small religion. You worship some weird god, and feel superior to the masses that don't. Of course, without money involved, such cults don't get very big. But that is sort of the point anyway. Can't be exclusive if anyone can join.

    10. Re:Déjà vu by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Wrong. The core element of a cult is a charismatic leader who must be obeyed. The difference between a cult and a religion is that in a religion, everyone who was in on the scam initially is dead.

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  4. I AM READY TO BELIEVE YOU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, sure. All those applications to SECRET groups are actually read by humans.

    Good g*d you diseased freaks are stupid.

  5. sex trafficking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let me get this straight, to start sex trafficking middle class white woman I just need to start an exclusive facebook group?

    1. Re:sex trafficking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Sounds like it, except you would need more than one customer to call it trafficking. Then its just dating.

  6. wtf popularity of secret groups? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    lemme guess these secret groups are so popular no one goes to them any longer?

    1. Re: wtf popularity of secret groups? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Guess not. We have secret groups. We call them life.

  7. echo chambers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This just makes echo chambers worse as now there is a reason to restrict access to said groups. The funny part is that as Facebook says they are going to work on reducing the impact of hateful speech on their platforms, this tactic flies in the face of it and will make things worse!

  8. I Kan Joinz Sloshdit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wish to be part of engaging audience. How I join? Must show bobs and vagene?

    1. Re:I Kan Joinz Sloshdit? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Please! Nobody wants to see any moobs, if we wanted that, we'd have mirrors in our basements!

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  9. facebook is the new DARK WEB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because why let reality get in the way of a good panic story?

  10. Re:Secret: What is Winter Sunlight? by youngone · · Score: 1

    Good lord, that's a deep dive into one of the weirdest recesses of the Internet I have seen since Time Cube.
    9/10 for strangeness 1/10 for logic. Someone mod this +1 Weird, quick!

  11. Re: Secret: What is Winter Sunlight? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cool pictures. You got a point to go with that or just delusional rants?

  12. Is that actually impressive? by Harlequin80 · · Score: 2

    I'm a member of two closed facebook groups that are just for specific models of 3d printers. One has 48,000 memebers and the other 18,000.

    Neither of these groups is promoted or operated by the manufacturer. They have just grown, in essence, as a support group. I would have thought if your business relied on a group it should have even more members....

  13. Meanwhile at Yahoo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Meanwhile at Yahoo! somebody is just hitting their head slowly against the wall...

    1. Re:Meanwhile at Yahoo! by CrashNBrn · · Score: 1

      And G+.

    2. Re: Meanwhile at Yahoo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unlike G+, Yahoo! had all of the features -and the popularity- and just flunked it.

  14. The Media by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The media is nothin' more than cheap hoes sportin' copious quantities of garish makeup & inflatable bras. Any perceived audience must be imaginary. Let the snipe hunt continue!

  15. Social media experts by AHuxley · · Score: 3, Funny

    discover the idea of an internet forum.

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  16. The only way to go by iamacat · · Score: 3, Interesting

    People are not on their best behavior online unless there is good supervision and perceived value of remaining in the community rather than getting kicked out for trolling. Closed group are the only way to have meaningful discussions on topics people can reasonably disagree on without degenerating into spam and profanity.

    1. Re:The only way to go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bingo! It should be no surprise that the rising popularity of closed groups mirrors the growth of trolls and disinformation campaigns. RWNJs have been working the refs to keep facebook et al from enforcing their baseline terms of service, and since the companies have been cowed individuals are taking it into their own hands and shutting the RWNJs out. Unfortunately that also means that more and more good info is being siloed away where only well-connected people can find it and long-term it is bad news for the ideals of openness that originally fueled the growth of the internet.

      captcha: villainy

    2. Re:The only way to go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      shit nigga!

    3. Re:The only way to go by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Congratulations, you just reinvented the all-white neighborhood.

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  17. Re: Secret: What is Winter Sunlight? by jd · · Score: 1

    We need complex numbers. That way, we can give it an imaginary mod.

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  18. Bubbles just became bubblier by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Congrats, Facebook: you can't get it right. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

    Just read the writing on the wall, shrivel up and die, will you?

  19. Re:Secret: What is Winter Sunlight? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    For this reason, God sends them a powerful delusion(operation of wandering)(planet) so that they will believe the lie.

    The only lie is that the link you posted will ever actually load. Got anything not on a PPP link?

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  20. Only Slaves Use Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So what youre saying is they have a great group of SLAVES over at Zuck's infofarm?

    GREAT FUCKING NEWS!!

  21. Re: Usenet was good in 89 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Then all YOU PEOPLE started using the Internet and it went to complete shit.

    Meaningful online discussion died with usenet. This is all just corporate whoreland bullshit.