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Alphabet's Cybersecurity Group Touts Its New Open Source Private VPN (digitalocean.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Alphabet's cybersecurity division Jigsaw has designed a new open source private VPN aimed at journalists and the people sending them data. "Their work makes them more vulnerable to attack," said Santiago Andrigo, Jigsaw's product manager. "It can get really scary when they're outed and you're passing over information."

Unscrupulous VPN providers can steal your identity, peek in on your data, inject their own ads on non-secure pages, or analyze your browsing habits and sell that information to advertisers, says one Jigsaw official. And you can't know for sure whether you can trust them, no matter what they say in the app store. "Journalists should be aware that their online activities might be subject to surveillance either by government agencies, their internet service providers or a hacker with malicious intent," said Laura Tich, technical evangelist for Code for Africa, a resource for African journalists. "As surveillance becomes ubiquitous in today's world, journalists face an increasing challenge in establishing secure communication in the digital space."

The new private VPN, dubbed "Outline", is specifically designed to be resistant to censorship — because it's harder to detect as a VPN (and therefore is less likely to be blocked). Outline uses an encrypted socks5 proxy that looks like normal internet traffic. Once the user chooses a server location, Outline spins up a DigitalOcean server on Ubuntu, installs Docker, and imports an image of the actual server.

It's been named Outline because in places where internet use may be restricted — it gives you a line out.

106 comments

  1. Fuck Alphabet. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah, trust the largest data mining and advertising company in the world to keep your data private... NOT.

    1. Re: Fuck Alphabet. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think youâ(TM)re saying that just because google has no rules about anything related to privacy or security.

    2. Re:Fuck Alphabet. by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Totally ignore the Snowden slides and all the Valley insiders that say Alphabet has data-sharing agreements with all the intelligence agencies.

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    3. Re:Fuck Alphabet. by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      Hey if you're going to let youserlf be thrown under the bus by your VPN, you might as well let US do it! -- Alphabet

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    4. Re: Fuck Alphabet. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'm saying that because Google and Alphabet are poor corporate citizens that want to suck up to repressive regimes like China while trying to paint it as a noble act. How convenient that the company is now coming out with a new "private" VPN after announcing a new re-entry to China. Only an idiot would trust this VPN.

    5. Re:Fuck Alphabet. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a lot of liberal truth seekers will trust Alphabet .... good for them ,they need to be controlled and monitored if they met their daily "like" quota

    6. Re: Fuck Alphabet. by spacepimp · · Score: 1

      only an idiot would trust open source code they can see/manipulate? Is that how this works now?

    7. Re: Fuck Alphabet. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People trusted a flawed version of OpenSSL that was part of Debian for years. Last time I checked, no one spotted its major flaw for years. In the real world, no one audits code and it's quite possible for obfuscated backdoors to be in the code when they can barely find non-obfuscated, unintentional ones for years.

    8. Re:Fuck Alphabet. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've said it before and I'll say it again: "If you are using someone else's VPN service to hide data from others, you're doing it wrong."

      But, that goes triple for any VPN service provided by the world's biggest advertising agency.

      See also: The All Writs Act for why USians in particular should avoid these services.

  2. ad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hey, its native advertising!

    1. Re: ad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I mean.. what's the difference between this and just using SSH as a socks5 proxy?

      You can spin up an OpenVPN docker image and go over "socks5 proxy" to connect to it, if you must (for convenience, like to channel all traffic over that connection).

      No ads, no tracking by Alphabet... Sounds just like Google using their brand to attract publicity and users.

  3. Unscrupulous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Unscrupulous VPN providers can steal your identity, peek in on your data, inject their own ads on non-secure pages, or analyze your browsing habits and sell that information to advertisers ..."

    So, Alphabet is talking about themselves, right?

    1. Re:Unscrupulous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You prevent VPN skullduggery by nesting several VPNs. The outermost VPNs could be someone untrustable - alphabet or worse. The innermost VPN should be a trusted VPN - ideally your own. The innermost VPN ensures that outer VPN providers cannot snoop. The purpose of the outer VPN(s) is to hide the fact that you use the innermost VPN at all. Hence, bad actors (oppressive governments etc.) target the outer VPN. The reason for using several outer VPNs, is when you fear that one of them may get cracked or infiltrated.

  4. "Private" my ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's only "private" if you define "private" as "strip-mine every detail of your life and send it to Google so they can sell it to anyone and everyone (while helping the Chinese totalitarians to stomp down their population)"

    Sorry, not my definition of "private".

    And, no, I don't fucking trust their evil asses.

    1. Re:"Private" my ass by aleph · · Score: 1

      These comments always amuse me.

      Trust me, if Google was the evil you think they are, they'd be doing a much better job of it. They're not nearly that incompetent. (No, seriously. If Google was trying to be evil you'd be way more screwed and not even realise it, but this applies to most large corporations.. There are only a few I'd class as truly evil, Google isn't even close to getting on that list. Naive, narrow sighted, culturally tone deaf, sure)

  5. Sends all the metadata to Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But don't worry, the communications are encrypted.

  6. Using a Google VPN? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is this a joke?

  7. Department of redundancy department by belg4mit · · Score: 2

    private virtual private network, eh?

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    1. Re:Department of redundancy department by bruce_the_loon · · Score: 1

      Not normally a pendantic replier, but in this case it's a private VPN as opposed to a commercial one or a corporate one. You spin it up for a purpose, talking to one source maybe, and not for everyone to use at the same time.

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    2. Re:Department of redundancy department by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      private virtual private network, eh?

      This is Google we're talking about - the privacy is beyond virtual - it's fantastic!

      As in, "You're living in Fantasyland if you think you get any privacy using something from Google."

    3. Re:Department of redundancy department by belg4mit · · Score: 1

      Personal or non-commercial seem like better modifiers than a second private in that case: personal virtual private network.

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    4. Re:Department of redundancy department by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      If there's a private key involved, short of a vulnerability in the encryption library, why would this allow Google to siphon your data?

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    5. Re:Department of redundancy department by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It even comes with a handy feature to save and restore your private key in case you lose or forget it...

    6. Re: Department of redundancy department by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This pedant is correct, the other pedant is not.

      It's a marketing term, guys. Google probably looked through their most searched for VPN terms.

    7. Re:Department of redundancy department by Chrontius · · Score: 1

      You throw shade, but I bet that a Yubikey would actually let you do that securely...

    8. Re:Department of redundancy department by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If there's a private key involved, short of a vulnerability in the encryption library, why would this allow Google to siphon your data?

      Even if you encrypt the contents, Google will still be able to draw a map of your communications.

      They're going to collect who you talk with and how much from this.

    9. Re:Department of redundancy department by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      My ISP can do the same with my VPN. It's not some tool for concealing every aspect of the communication.

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  8. What problem exactly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Re: "Now users can create their own personal VPN to their own personal server" -- Defeats one of the main features of a VPN, i.e. anonymity. The whole point of VPNs & TOR is to bury sensitive information in a haystack of other encrypted traffic to make it harder to find. Also, if national security agencies are tracking journalists, they'll do it with targeted techniques, rendering VPNs & TOR ineffective. I'll wait till I hear about this from independent security experts about what real world problems it actually solves or not.

    1. Re: What problem exactly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another thing is that the vast majority of journalists just aren't that bright. They would be using an "anonymous VPN" and then logging into their personal Facebook and saying "hey guys right now I'm anonymously posting from behind enemy lines in...." etc. They leak all of their own personal info by themselves.

      The Uber-smart journalists who actually run OpenBSD and use VPNs properly are very rare.

    2. Re:What problem exactly? by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful

      When was the point of encryption ever anonymity? The point has always been to transmit data over open channels in a manner that it couldn't be decrypted. The Germans and Allies were doing it all the time during WWII, and interception was expected (if a message couldn't be intercepted, then there would be no need for encryption). One of the failures I see with networks like TOR is the misapplication of encryption for anonymity. Anonymizing data (ie. stripping out metadata) is a separate discipline. The two can certainly be combined, but they are not the same thing.

      When I connect to my online banking, I have some expectation that my identity will be known. I'm not relying on the secrecy of the transaction, I'm relying on the inability of a middle man being able to gleen any details of the transaction.

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    3. Re:What problem exactly? by infolation · · Score: 1

      To promote real anonymity Jigsaw/Digital Ocean should:

      [1] Make it just as easy to set up a private obfs4 TOR bridge.
      [2] Permit payment for Digital Ocean accounts by cryptocurrency, ideally Monero.

    4. Re: What problem exactly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is a middle ground too. Reasonably smart journalists open their VPN tunnel, transfer dangerous information, then shuts down. Frivolities like facebook waits till they get back home.

    5. Re:What problem exactly? by nine-times · · Score: 1

      The purpose of traditional VPN is that you want to connect to a private network, and secure that connection by encrypting the traffic. However, the purpose of a lot of "VPN" services is actually to make it harder for someone to monitor or block your communications. Without a VPN, your ISP (or someone else) can potentially see what sites and services you're accessing even if the traffic itself is encrypted, and the services can easily keep track of the source address. The VPN service isn't necessarily enough to keep the communications anonymous, but it takes care of part of the problem.

      When I connect to my online banking, I have some expectation that my identity will be known. I'm not relying on the secrecy of the transaction, I'm relying on the inability of a middle man being able to gleen any details of the transaction.

      That's already handled by the fact that your bank uses SSL on their website.

    6. Re:What problem exactly? by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      Yes, but what my banking app doesn't do is hide that an IP address provisioned to me connected to a bank web server. The whole point of SSL is to obscure with a high degree of rigor what exactly it was I was doing connecting to the bank.

      Encryption systems are designed for that purpose, and in reality as hard as encryption is, it's much easier than anonymizing data. Even encrypted data can leave some tell tale signs. Padding out data, burying it other data, all can be used to further hide the nature of a transmission, but fundamentally encryption is not about hiding the sender and/or receiver, and assuming an encrypted VPN is a good way to anonymize data or identity is an error.

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    7. Re:What problem exactly? by ediron2 · · Score: 1

      Banking is just one use case. It's not remotely like cypherpunk activity. And the point of cryptography actually boils down to 3 traits: privacy, authentication, and integrity.

      When is anonymity a desired feature? Off the cuff: Cyperpunks, whistleblowing, dissidents, espionage, communication between guerrilla cells, snowden, wikileaks, the pentagon papers, deep throat, the panama papers, insurrections against despots, insurrections against good rulers, affairs, snitching on affairs, snitches in general, illegal activity, disapproved activity (e.g., the new societal 'ratings' systems that China is implementing). Like I said, that's just off the cuff.

  9. Don't trust these guys. Trust us. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So it's secure because you say so?

  10. Re: Fuck Alphabet. Heil Hitler. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually I just realized if this swastika post keeps appearing on every slashdot post like it has been lately, slashdot could technically be banned in Germany.

  11. Alphabet marketing executive says by bobstreo · · Score: 1

    "Maybe if they keep seeing Private, they'll think it provides privacy."

    1. Re:Alphabet marketing executive says by Quakeulf · · Score: 1

      Alphabet is death to trust.

  12. Lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A google vpn? How stupid do they think people are?

  13. A Google VPN? Hold on, I'll strip naked... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The data kraken offering to keep our communication and maybe even identity a secret?
    Thanks, but I'm waiting for the NSA to announce a joint-venture with the FSB, Mossad and China, to get my VPN from!

    1. Re: A Google VPN? Hold on, I'll strip naked... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *that* was funny.
      If you were using a google service for some reason the VPN might be useful.

    2. Re:A Google VPN? Hold on, I'll strip naked... by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      They never said secret. They said private. In the same way that airport business class lounges are private to pretty much anyone with a credit card.

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    3. Re: A Google VPN? Hold on, I'll strip naked... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you were using a google service for some reason the VPN might be useful.

      This is like telling someone that's cool to use a needle contaminated with HIV since they already have herpes.

    4. Re:A Google VPN? Hold on, I'll strip naked... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They never said secret. They said private.

      This makes no sense. Private and secret are synonyms within the English language.

      https://www.thesaurus.com/brow...

      Hell, even Merriam Webster uses secret in one of its definitions of private:

      not known or intended to be known publicly : SECRET

      https://www.merriam-webster.co...

      Your post is as dumb as saying that water is wet but not moist.

    5. Re:A Google VPN? Hold on, I'll strip naked... by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      Private and secret are synonyms within the English language.

      Contemplate this next time you're on someone's "secret property". Words can have multiple meanings and just because they share one meaning does not make them equivalent. Yes and I see that thesaurus you are privating into your pockets...

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    6. Re:A Google VPN? Hold on, I'll strip naked... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've yet failed to explain how secret and private are different. Every dictionary has a definition for either term using the other because they are synonyms that mean the same thing. Only you have invented this notion that they are dissimilar and mean something different.

  14. No need for VPN software other than SSH. by Vitus+Wagner · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you have you own (or event shared with other people) server where you can login via SSH, you don't need any other VPN software. Just start ssh session to it with dynamic forwarding and use it as Socks5 proxy.
    Any cheap server on Digital Ocean, Amazon or elsewhere would do as long as you reasonable sure that it is located in the country which don't track you.

    Of course, openssh has more elaborate VPN soulution built in, but it requires administrative rights on both ends of link. And dynamic port forwarding works by default as long as you have ssh client (putty would do) which supports it, and you can tune proxy settings in your browser.

    1. Re:No need for VPN software other than SSH. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except SSH is trivially blocked by censors. So it's useless for what people try to use a VPN for.

    2. Re:No need for VPN software other than SSH. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So is socks5.

      But the other responder is wrong. SSH, or anything else not statically configured in advance, encrypting the first packet is a misunderstanding that is making the rounds lately. Too many people focused on toolchains and frameworks instead of fundamentals. Relying on others for meta-technical knowledge is prone to error.

      SSH doesn't send traffic until the channel is secured, and doesn't use a symmetric key first. It uses an asymmetric key which then negotiates a symmetric key. The first packet isn't encrypted, but neither does it send information that might compromise the transaction. This is the normal way DH works.

      I suspect this misinformation being so popular it drowns out fact is similar to the name "pin and tumbler" lock. It doesn't make sense. A tumbler is the part of a lock which interacts with a key. Pin is a type of tumbler. The correct name is simply 'pin tumbler' but the other became and still is popular due to just one silly website author whose only expert knowledge was SEO. So now we all must suffer fools until they correct themselves and google changes their algorithms again.

    3. Re:No need for VPN software other than SSH. by pz · · Score: 2

      My personal favorite spin on ssh is sshtunnel. I'm not affiliated with the project, just a very satisfied user. As long as I have ssh access to my server, I can get anywhere on the net, no matter where I might be sitting at the moment.

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    4. Re:No need for VPN software other than SSH. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please explain what sshtunnel does that is not a built-in function of ssh?

    5. Re:No need for VPN software other than SSH. by DaMattster · · Score: 1

      SSH is convenient but there is a fair amount of overhead so browsing can be slow.

    6. Re:No need for VPN software other than SSH. by pz · · Score: 1

      I don't exactly know. I tried following various instructions on the web to set up a VPN with the inherent features of SSH, and it seemed impossible with my use case: laptop in hostile location, and an inability to install any software or open custom ports on my (el-cheapo shared) server. But I was able to get sshtunnel up in under 5 minutes: it just works. Nothing gets installed, no obscure ports to open here or there, no easy-to-forget settings to use on my laptop. I'm not an expert, and maybe sshtunnel is just a tool of convenience, but it works, and, for me, works well.

      Please explain how to do the same thing with vanilla ssh ... is it possible?

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    7. Re:No need for VPN software other than SSH. by ottdmk · · Score: 1

      Isn't running a tcp connection over another tcp connection kinda painful, performance-wise? I don't run a VPN at home (don't have a reason to, personally) but I do maintain an OpenVPN server on my home FreeBSD desktop. Comes in quite handy, and learning how to configure it has been a lot of fun. I mostly use it to secure my tablet when I'm using open wi-fi somewhere. Sure, it doubles the bandwidth going through my home connection but hey, I'm lucky enough to have an unlimited bandwidth account, so why not?

    8. Re:No need for VPN software other than SSH. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please explain how to do the same thing with vanilla ssh ... is it possible?

      There you go

    9. Re:No need for VPN software other than SSH. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      login via ssh:

      ssh -D 33123 user@

      this sets up a local port 33123 which acts as a socks proxy, forwarding everything to your remote server.

      Set up your browser (or any other internet accessing software) to use a socks v5 proxy with a host of 127.0.0.1 and port of 33123

    10. Re:No need for VPN software other than SSH. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      apologies - some text got removed

      user@

      is meant to be user@your-remote-server-name-or-ip

  15. Re: Fuck Alphabet. Heil Hitler. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since when does germany have bans in place that prohibit religious freedoms? :-D

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  17. Re: Fuck Alphabet. Heil Hitler. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Nazi swastika is markedly different to the Buddhist use of the symbol. The Nazis rotated it precisely to be different to the religious symbol.

  18. Soo... obfsproxy? by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 2

    It sounds like Google has reinvented obfsproxy, which disguises your traffic to look like innocuous requests. People have been plugging obfsproxy into Tor and OpenVPN for years now.

    1. Re:Soo... obfsproxy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Except this feeds mountains of metadata to Alphabet's maw.

    2. Re:Soo... obfsproxy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. And why would they reintroduce the wheel? Because the wheel now sends information about the driver.

  19. Trust Jigsaw? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The company that serves as Google's own private intelligence agency with their own version of a Directorate of Operations? Sorry, I'll pass.

  20. Analyze your habits and sell the info? by mamba-mamba · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Unscrupulous VPN providers can steal your identity, peek in on your data, inject their own ads on non-secure pages, or analyze your browsing habits and sell that information to advertisers...

    You mean, like Google?

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  21. Don't use proxies. Use a real tunnel. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Use a low-level tunnel. E.g. set your OS's route through a OpenVPN tun or tap device, and make the firewall block everything, except OpenVPN to that one destination, for all devices. Then add another more exceptions for going throught VPN device, so things can actually connect.

    Even better: If you have a home server (e.g. a single-board computer), have THAT one do the routing/firewalling, so your computer(s) only get the VPN on their Ethernet line. (For wifi, of course you should use EAP-TLS with your own CA and ChaCha20/Poly1305/Curve25519 encryption.)

    1. Re:Don't use proxies. Use a real tunnel. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can use an OpenWRT router as a VPN gateway. The computer should not have any access to the local internet connection, just the VPN. No matter what the browser and the DNS resolver do, this way everything is encrypted and nothing can escape to reveal the actual internet connection. There are cheap and small OpenWRT routers which can be powered from a USB power bank. They can be configured to use any internet uplink (Wifi, Ethernet, mobile) and provide a VPN over it, with no way for the client to access the internet except through the VPN.

    2. Re: Don't use proxies. Use a real tunnel. by c6gunner · · Score: 1

      Yep, doing this right now. Though, instead of a cheap battery powered router I've got a Lynksis WRT 1900. Those little ones are OK for when you need to move around a lot, but they tend to be slow and somewhat limited.

  22. Hunh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Alphabet owns Google. Surely this VPN will be private!

  23. Friendly reminder: alphabet is not your friend. by nimbius · · Score: 5, Informative

    Google, and by extension, Alphabet, joined the US PRISM surveillance program in 2009. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    1. Re:Friendly reminder: alphabet is not your friend. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep. Why would anyone trust anything these guys say or do?

    2. Re:Friendly reminder: alphabet is not your friend. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But Google uses Linux and allows any Russian hacker to spam their app store with malware UNLIKE ASSHOLE STEVE JOBES and his fucking WALLED GARDEN! Also, if you're still not sure, their motto is "Don't Be Evil" so obviously they can't be evil, ok.

    3. Re:Friendly reminder: alphabet is not your friend. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you suggesting that, in a time where the government are working against the "fake media", they would try to develop software to catch leakers? How dare you!

  24. Re: Fuck Alphabet. Heil Hitler. by Dunbal · · Score: 1

    Let me guess, they replaced it with a big red dot on a white background?

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  25. How so? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unencrypted headers?

    Because the port can trivially be changed. (And there's parametric port knocking, where the kind of knock determines the port.)

    And with properly configured SSH, all packets, even the very first one, are fully encrypted with an individual symmetric key, and the actual handshake happens inside of there.

    I agree, that of course there are better solutions.

    But: You're doing it wrong. Repeat after me: A VPN is not an anonymization solution!

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    1. Re:IMPERSONATING ME AGAIN? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Holy shit, just get a f-(kin' girlfriend already and stop the cry-baby routine. Get a life.

  27. Re: Fuck Alphabet. Heil Hitler. by Type44Q · · Score: 1

    So-called Buddhist nations (though that one's more Shinto than Buddhist) aren't known for being particularly Buddhist.

  28. Re:Fuck Alphabet. Heil Hitler. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Excellent troll is excellent.

  29. Re: Fuck Alphabet. Heil Hitler. by c6gunner · · Score: 1

    The Nazis rotated it precisely to be different to the religious symbol.

    No, they didn't; you're just repeating nonsense someone once told you without bothering to check it. The swastika has been used by various religions in many different styles, and in both orientations.

  30. Aka not private. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If anyone can come in, they are, by definition, not private.

  31. Re: Fuck Alphabet. Heil Hitler. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    only for christians.. muslims can rape women and it's ok.

  32. Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Installed it on my amazon free aws tier. Traveling abroad to where im sure vpns are blocked. Hope it works.
    I must say its pretty simple to setup and use. I wish openvpn was like this.

    It doesnt allow you to access local network servers (ie 192.168.1.1) like openvpn does

    I wish openvpn was this easy to setup

  33. Re: Fuck Alphabet. Heil Hitler. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Didn't it originate in India ?

  34. Re: Fuck Alphabet. Heil Hitler. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Wikipedia says this:

    The swastika is a geometrical figure and an ancient religious icon from the cultures of Eurasia, where it has been and remains a symbol of divinity and spirituality in Indian religions.

  35. Re: Fuck Alphabet. Heil Hitler. by cheesybagel · · Score: 1

    A lot of them are. It's just that that actual Buddhism practice is mostly stuck in the monasteries. Most people only go to the temples mostly to wish for something rather than seek enlightenment or guidance.

  36. I know, but go way beyond OpenWRT. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I bought myself ARM-based router board, that runs a full Gentoo Linux on it, and does basically all home services. From a file sharing VM with its own VPN, over a file server that also is my phone's sync "cloud", and fakes being Google, over being my own name server, my own CA, my own home automation (including artificial time zones with gradual adaptation, simulated climate and time of year), my own E-Mail and XMPP server, to pretty much everything you can imagine. Of course in separate "VMs". (I mean application firewalling, via Rule Set Based Access Control. A VM, by itself, is not a security solution.)

    I do it mainly for exercise and fun purposes, and it grew slowly over several years. But if having your own infrastructure is your thing, it’s amazingly satisfying. :)
    The only hard part, is to always keep up with the latest developments. Because unfortunately, Gentoo maintainers tell you fuck-all. .. At least you can get *some* updates on what's currently known to be insecure.

    The best part: With my own CA, I can trivially MITM all connections of software or sites I’m using. Like games or Google.

    1. Re:I know, but go way beyond OpenWRT. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      KISS: Keep it simple, stupid. If you want security, don't overcomplicate things. COTS OpenWRT routers are cheap and networking is difficult enough to get right without everything else on the same box. You can afford a separate server, or your VPN security wasn't worth anything to you anyway.

  37. Re: Fuck Alphabet. Heil Hitler. by rtb61 · · Score: 0

    The only real problem with the Swastika is a corrupt German government has failed to rehabilitate the swastika, and in the most arrogant fashion chose it ban it in human context, the Germans raped it and then banned it because it was raped, very nicely done Germany and you should be deeply ashamed.

    For journalists to be secure, you maintain separate devices. One that connects to the internet and one that does not, you do the work on the one that never connects to the internet, it's network devices powered off completely or preferably missing and you sneaker net it, carry data to it, scan that data, never autorun and then load the data, to output you save the data to a USB memory stick and carry it over to the device that is connected to the internet and load and upload. So the secure unit is a desktop with a big screen and network connections and the connected unit, what ever notebook you like. To travel buy a cheap notebook, that you can scap at the end of the journey, store all data to USB stick and mail home, do not carry it home or encrypt and upload. Only ever decrypt on the unconnected desk top.

    All it takes is a security letter to undo any external security, want it secure, do it internally. Google most definitely can not be trusted, absolutely not. They are first and foremost an advertising company, their core role is lying for others, that is the core function, everything else is bait to serve that function ie they will target type 2 diabetics with candy advertisements for example, shamelessly, ideal target group, likely to generate news sales, well at least for the medium term and then who cares.

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  38. Re: Fuck Alphabet. Heil Hitler. by pezezin · · Score: 2

    Wait, what? I'm a gaijin living in Japan and every single map that I have seen uses the swastika (or manji) to mark temples. I just took a look at Google Maps, and it does the same. Also, the manji faces counter-clockwise, and the Nazi swastika was clockwise (and rotated 45).

    Seriously, it would me really angry if they had to drop a centuries old symbol due to tourists' ignorance.

  39. Which is why I use That One Privacy Site by ArhcAngel · · Score: 1

    "Unscrupulous VPN providers can steal your identity, peek in on your data, inject their own ads on non-secure pages, or analyze your browsing habits and sell that information to advertisers ..."

    Each use case is a little different. Someone in an oppressive country might be trying to get access to much needed news. Another just wants to stream Netflix without AT&T or Verizon from throttling their feed. While yet another wants to remain anonymous for less than honorable reasons. Each case needs their VPN to protect them from different types of intrusion. No one VPN will cover every use case. That's why I do my research at That One Privacy Site I don't know if the information there is all legit but it is mighty thorough. Everything from is the VPN located in a 5 eyes nation down to the ethics of whether they prevent SPAM.

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    "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." - K
  40. Doesn't work in China by Nocturrne · · Score: 1

    I retested this today, just to confirm what I already know. China and their Great Firewall have been able to automatically detect and block Shadowsocks for a long time. The concept of wrapping a VPN client and server into a nice UI is very good, but you'll need much much more than this to accomplish your goal. Seriously, am I very disappointed with Google/Alphabet - you have the resources and ability to change the internet, but you won't do it because privacy would break your business model. Eric Schmidt, Larry Page, Sergey Brin - you should be ashamed.

  41. Hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I was China for example or Iran, I'd probably just block off DigitalOcean and I'll effectively block "Outline" too. This is weird. It's not combating censorship in any meaningful way.

  42. KISS is considered harmfully stupid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The actual ideal is elegance, efficiency and emergence!
    That means the ratio of how complicated it is, versus how *powerful* it is!
    E.g. Notepad is extremely simple, but also extremely featureless So its level is extremely low. It is extremely cumbersome.
    And VIM and Emacs, while extremely featureful, are also extremely complicated. Which ruins their level too.
    Ideally, it should be as simple to use as Notepad, but as powerful as Emacs. That would be a high level.

    (An example would be programs that have a console, where your actions in the GUI are also actions in the CLI, and vice versa. They allow you to just do something, then select some console history, and make it a button with a shortcut and parameters. A visual function. That is very powerful, but also very elegant and simple. The Godot game engine would be another case, thanks to its very generic concepts that you only need to learn once, and can apply *everywhere*.)

    But that requires brains. And many people are pathetically mentally overwhelmed by this. So they just dumbed things down. And to give it a name, they dumbed the concepts of efficiency, emergence and elegance *themselves* down, by dropping the power part, and gave it a new name: "KISS".
    Henceforth acting like pure simplicity is a "good" thing.

    When anyone with a working brain can plainly see, that the simplest and hence supposedly most ideal interface would b something like a plain and completely featureless rock. Which would obviously also be completely useless. Showing the absurdity of the fallacy behind glorifying simplicity over everything.

    Ergo: Simplicity without power is lazy and hence harmful and hence stupid. Therefore, KISS is considered harmful. ... It's an idiotic anti-pattern.

    1. Re:KISS is considered harmfully stupid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you want security, you keep it simple enough for you to understand and debug. I can almost guarantee that you do not understand a desktop Linux distribution well enough to turn it into a secure network appliance. At least half of the tutorials out there which claim to do just that have glaring omissions which leave anyone who follows them exposed to trivial attacks. IT people get drawn to complexity like moths to a light. Solving complexity is their job after all. But not being scared of complexity is a bad trait for security people. Complexity begets bugs, bugs kill security. The KISS principle may not appear attractive, but it has prevailed over all other ways of dealing with complexity. Lasting things are simple things.

  43. Re: Fuck Alphabet. Heil Hitler. by AC-x · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The only real problem with the Swastika is a corrupt German government has failed to rehabilitate the swastika, and in the most arrogant fashion chose it ban it in human context

    Um, what exactly do you think Germany could have done post-WW2 to make the Swastika not have negative connotations in western countries?

  44. Almost sounds purpose built for the CIA by Sqreater · · Score: 1

    The CIA just had a communications debacle exposed concerning its information assets in various countries worldwide, causing a roll up of those assets, even the deaths of dozens of those assets at the hands of their countries' security apparatuses. This sounds like something they could use after some modifications.

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  45. Internet tyrant Google says "we're good now" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hahaha, this is like using Chinas VPN.

    Google is off the rails. Diversify your information cache and do not trust any if there services if you care about privacy or the ability to control your own information.

  46. Re: Fuck Alphabet. Heil Hitler. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Um, what exactly do you think Germany could have done post-WW2 to make the Swastika not have negative connotations in western countries?

    Paint it pink or rainbow colors.