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IBM CEO Joins Apple In Blasting Data use By Silicon Valley Firms (bloomberg.com)
IBM CEO Ginni Rometty joined a growing chorus of tech executives lambasting web platforms, like Google and Facebook, over their collection of user data and urged governments to target regulation at those companies. Bloomberg reports: Without naming company names, Rometty pointed to the "irresponsible handling of personal data by a few dominant consumer-facing platform companies" as the cause of a "trust crisis" between users and tech companies, according to an advanced copy of her remarks. Rometty's comments, given at a Brussels event with top EU officials Monday, echoed recent statements by Apple CEO Tim Cook, who in October slammed Silicon Valley rivals over their use of data, equating their services to "surveillance."
IBM meanwhile has seen revenue decline since Rometty took the CEO role in 2012, largely due to falling sales in existing hardware, software and services offerings. She has since been trying to steer IBM toward more modern businesses, such as the cloud, artificial intelligence, and security software. Seeking to separate IBM -- which operates primarily at a business-to-business level -- from the troubled tech companies, Rometty said governments should target regulation at consumer-facing web platforms, like social media firms and search engines. In particular, Rometty pushed for more measures around the transparency of artificial intelligence as well as controversial rules around platform liability.
IBM meanwhile has seen revenue decline since Rometty took the CEO role in 2012, largely due to falling sales in existing hardware, software and services offerings. She has since been trying to steer IBM toward more modern businesses, such as the cloud, artificial intelligence, and security software. Seeking to separate IBM -- which operates primarily at a business-to-business level -- from the troubled tech companies, Rometty said governments should target regulation at consumer-facing web platforms, like social media firms and search engines. In particular, Rometty pushed for more measures around the transparency of artificial intelligence as well as controversial rules around platform liability.
Hmmmm...it's not like Rometty's trying to cover up that fiasco. Or what about those Email Marketing firms IBM bought within the last few years; is Rometty going to hold IBM accountable for those under the same platform liabilities? Face it, IBM is as much of a culprit as these other web platforms!
Unlike Apple, who, you know, *makes stuff*, IBM has... What? An overhyped AI engine that's not shown application besides jeopardy?
I guess there's maintenance on mainframes?
- cloud? Nope
- databases? Maybe?
- computers?
So 'joining' Apple is a bit of a stretch to but them in the same league?
IBM is just trying to get the same payoff that Apple got. I'm certain they would be equally willing to do a 180 on this issue too.
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only know how to go full ads.
Microphone, camera collection, encryption thats ad ready.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
#MeToo
What about Equifax, and Wells Fargo, etc etc etc, and the damn NSA???
Crying about Facebook is a bullshit distraction.
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I like how these people come out and take a bold stand only after they have assessed that the public doesn't trust the big tech companies.
I can't tell if it is a genuine moral concern or just a calculated sociopathic gesture done to remain favorable amongst the mob.
Companies that force their customers into full and partial operating system upgrades against their will.
Hey Rometty, how many patents did your company lock up in the last decade? How much innovation has IBM directly stifled due to an unending desire to grow a patent war chest?
I'm certainly not here defending the likes of Google or Facebook, but I sure as hell don't need IBM to dictate how corporations should act.
Shut the fuck up. You can speak when you're not drowning in your own hypocrisy.
Take a well respected company and sell of it's intellectual property so that a Chinese company can profit off it by leveraging it's customers to collect data? That's apparently OK. But if Google or Facebook does it then nooooo.
Any company that would align itself with apple should just shut the fuck up. You lose all credibility when you make a deal with apple.
this from a company that pioneered collection and processing of user data with the nazis during WW2: IBM and the Holocaust.
IBM isn't at the forefront of this action so of course they will be backing anything that takes down their competitors a notch or ten.
My next phone will NOT be an android unless I can confirm that I am not being tracked left right and center. I detest the information gathering of these companies, which is potentially very dangerous for democracy (consider the Nazis, or recent communist China re state control of our privacy).
Anyone notice how much the worded "Blasted" and "Slammed" are used by modern journalism?
Does everything have to read like professional wrestling commentators?
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Tries to install an app.
Requires I login to the Google Play account.
I log in to the Google play account..... it says it needs to confirm my identity for security reasons, demands a telephone number.
THIS ACCOUNT NEVER HAD A TELEPHONE NUMBER associated with it, I always reject their request to add a telephone number.
Yet I cannot log in without a telephone number, so I use a free prepay sim I was given in a dumb phone to receive the SMS and enter the confirmation.
Disables "Google Play Services" after installing app (which is Google's spyware). Now apps complain they cannot run without "Google Play Services" enabled, but if you cancel the dialog they run just fine.
Welcome to Google, grabbing as much fooking data as they can to try to maximize profit from existing markets because they've singularly failed to make new markets.
Nobody wants your self driving cars, or medical stuff, because you'll require Google surveillance as a result and you can just go fuck yourselves.
Wishful thinking. Most people don't give a shit about privacy. That horse bolted and died from heat exhaustion long ago.
I hear people tell me that we can't move faster, because we don't want to leave part of the herd behind. Being cynical about everything is not productive.
It doesn't matter how people try to slice it, this type of data mining on this scale has ever been seen before. I hear people argue everything from "People can believe what they want", to "It's clear what fake news is", to "they are a business and they should be able to exploit the population however they want. Only the idiots would fall for it anyway." There should be limits on how this is all used. I would like to see political advertising on these social media sites banned in all forms.
We know very well what this type of mass messaging does to human beings. No one is immune from these kind of messages. Even if you did not look at the internet, you would still know what cynicism was.
I think its great that IBM is speaking on this. I think that anyone bringing this conversation to the forefront is doing a real service to the people. You can not claim to be real intellect, when your argument is "you're an idiot."
Both of which behave maliciously in other ways and in other areas. IBM practically invented digital restriction management technology with it being the first to restrict the Mini PCI slot to its wifi cards for personal benefit. Apple does similarly with proprietary designs and goes further by locking down device entirely. IBM may not be doing it's PC thing any more, but I recall there was even malware being shipped with systems at one point and long prior to that they all shipped with malware of other sorts. Bloatware with anybody who would pay them including games and other such software with each PC sold.
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Is this a well known 'sic the government regulators on em' strategy used by companies to damage their competition? That's been around for 100 years.
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While I certainly agree with you that Google et al should be strongly regulated (or perhaps broken up) -- you have no qualms to furnish infrastructure to pull off all those monopolistic and society-shattering shenanigans.
As you had no qualms to furnish Nazi Germany with Hollerith machines back then. You are as credible as those you are criticizing.
That said, I'm all for it: break up Google, Amazon, Facebook, Apple, Microsoft. But also break up IBM, GM, Volkswagen, PSA, Nissan, Bayer, Unilever, Nestlé... and many others.
There's no consumer friendly message from IBM, nor user friendly, citizen friendly, friendly to the people. Under the guise of bitching about the social and search companies the head of IBM pushes for 'regulation of the platforms' or 'responsibility' or 'liability' which is a code word for you know what. The grand project of sanctification of reasonable truths and punishment of the deviants? I don't know to call this or exactly describe and explain it to people concerned. i.e. everyone in fact due to the changing nature of the regimes we'll be living under let alone even something as a bug tracker or a church e-mail newsletter would have trouble operating.
I've shamelessly pasted the end of the article :
Rometty called on the European Union to change laws that have previously handed web platforms immunity from what appears on their sites. The EU’s so-called e-commerce directive from 2000 was designed to boost innovation among young firms. The bloc has since introduced targeted measures giving tech companies liability over specific content, like ordering them to remove terror propaganda within one hour [ link to https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-12/tech-firms-face-hefty-fines-under-new-eu-terror-rules ], but it’s yet to formally change the law.
Brussels has become eponymous in the tech world with tough digital rules, such as the EU’s strict GDPR privacy regulation, which came into force earlier this year.
Like Rometty, Cook also made his comments at an event in Brussels attended by top EU officials.
in which they have used an astonishing name for the grand project. They've called it the "EU terror rules" and it is fitting, don't you think?
That won't translate sadly, as a quirk of English and headline speak made it "the EU terror rules".
Chief Executive Officer Rometty went to shill for them "terror rules" before an assortment of "top EU officials" i.e. a caricature of whom we the people hate.
I can suppose the rivalry is feigned : she complains of irresponsible behavior but then sponsors a EU project that will likely hand over the whole world to the few dominant, consumer-facing platform companies.
"EU Terror Rules"
Turn out at the EU Parliament elections in late May 2019 and don't let this happen please. Obviously the liberals, centrists, right-wing (same as the liberals) and social democrats (same as the liberals) are probably all-in on this.
Apple and IBM sell hardware. They are not in the ad business and do not need to monitize personal information. If and when they do, trust me they will have a change of heart.
Never quite recovered after AH, JG and crew had their asses handed to them.
also, Google have own OS (android) which reducing Apple smartphone business income, and Google is buying custom build servers (not hyper pricey IBM gear).
Im sure this is IBM just parroting what apple says to say; for a .001% discount on imaclaptops.
All I can see looking at that headline is "CEO of corporation which built machines used by the Nazis to track data in concentration camps lacks sense of irony"
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that offered to help POTUS with identifying those in the US without proper identification?
That one, yeah. The company that supported Nazi Germany and wants to support White Nationalist America.