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Facebook Discussed Using People's Data As a Bargaining Chip, Emails and Court Filings Suggest (washingtonpost.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Washington Post: Facebook executives in recent years appeared to discuss giving access to their valuable user data to some companies that bought advertising when it was struggling to launch its mobile-ad business, according to internal emails quoted in newly unredacted court filings. In an ongoing federal court case against Facebook, the plaintiffs claim that the social media giant doled out people's data secretly and selectively in exchange for advertising purchases or other concessions, even as others were cut off, ruining their businesses. The case was brought by one such company, Six4Three, which claims its business was destroyed in 2015 by Facebook's actions.

In one of the exchanges from the filings, Facebook employees discussed shutting down access "in one-go to all apps that don't spend at least $250k a year to maintain access to the data," according to the trove. The documents reference email exchanges regarding Facebook's relations with several large commercial partners, including Lyft, Tinder, Amazon.com, Airbnb and the Royal Bank of Canada. Facebook denies that it exchanged access to people's data for commercial benefit. Thousands of pages of court filings, which Facebook is fighting to keep sealed -- including in an emergency hearing scheduled for Friday afternoon -- illustrate the shrewd strategies the social network employed as it built its advertising empire. The disclosure sheds light on allegations of anti-competitive behavior that could play into efforts by U.S. and European lawmakers to curb the power of technology giants.
"The documents Six4Three gathered for this baseless case are only part of the story and are presented in a way that is very misleading without additional context," Konstantinos Papamiltiadis, Facebook's director of developer platforms and programs, said in a statement. "We stand by the platform changes we made in 2015 to stop a person from sharing their friends' data with developers. Any short-term extensions granted during this platform transition were to prevent the changes from breaking user experience."

30 comments

  1. What happened by jwymanm · · Score: 1

    To their own email/data retention policy? I thought the corporate norm was to allow everything to be deleted every 90 days now.

    1. Re:What happened by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Check with your company's Legal. Ours says it's 2 years.

    2. Re:What happened by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      I thought FB's policy was never delete data of any kind.

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    3. Re:What happened by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the real world documents are kept because they're actually useful.

      "Was this authorised?" "I don't know we destroyed all the information"

      "Why did we pick this vendor?" "I don't know we destroyed all the information"

      "Does Bob know about this?" "I don't know we destroyed all the information"

      Even wherever you work, I doubt things are that bad.

    4. Re:What happened by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the norm is to delete everything daily.

      Google has an "indef" inbox that you can use for things you want to keep longer than one hour.

      Seems sensible given those pesky lawyers and judges keep wanting more and more data...

  2. Leave FB alone!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have some stocks to sell. After that, I don't care!

    1. Re: Leave FB alone!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why does Facebook do these things without talking to their developers and analysts about the consequences?

    2. Re: Leave FB alone!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why does Facebook do these things without talking to their developers and analysts about the consequences?

      Just like any other company. The people in charge are arrogant fuckwads who think they know everything and think they are much smarter than the people who work under them.

      "I'm rich and you aren't, so I must be smarter than you"

  3. It's 2018. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you're still using Facebook... you deserve whatever abuse you get.

    It's an existential thread to the internet and democracy. If you use it, you are complicit in what happens.

    Captcha: "enslave".

    1. Re: It's 2018. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the heck is Facebook? Is that a new band? Send me a cassette so I can listen to them along with guns and roses and 38 special in my 57 Chevy

    2. Re: It's 2018. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      Wouldn't it be an 8-track, or did you not care to keep it all original?

  4. Lies by sit1963nz · · Score: 1

    FB lies more than Trump.

    1. Re:Lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Orange man bad.

    2. Re: Lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe, but Trump isn't constantly telling me what kind of dessert I am or what famous person I look like or begging me to like his buddy's bullshit art page.

    3. Re:Lies by Can'tNot · · Score: 1

      That's only true because Trump's lies are all on Facebook.

    4. Re:Lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Orange lying traitor.

  5. It's just a private company :^) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Pay no attention to the fact that a company with more power, money, and influence than 98% of the world's governments has the unchecked ability to bankrupt private businesses at a whim for failing to conform to their ideas of how the internet should look (or just for not paying them enough), the REAL outrage is that horrible thing Drumpf said on twitter this morning! (Like omg can you believe it? What a nazi!)

  6. Re:MASON by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even so, come, Lord Jesus!

    I'm sure this was *completely* unintentional.

    Well played, sir. Well played.

  7. Clarification by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Facebook denies that it exchanged access to people's data for commercial benefit.

    "Actually," they said, "we exchanged access to people's data for the lulz."

  8. "Konstantinos Papamiltiadis" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gee, that sure sounds like a Russian name, don't you think? Coincidence? ..or not?

    1. Re:"Konstantinos Papamiltiadis" by manu0601 · · Score: 1

      I would rather say it looks Greek.

  9. Facebook == Flaming assholes by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Need I say more?
    Ask yourself: Why are you still using Facebook?

    1. Re:Facebook == Flaming assholes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Need I say more?

      Ask yourself: Why are you still using Facebook?

      The same can be said for ALL social media - especially LinkedIN. One's career and employment history is some wonderful data about someone. It's part of a great way to pre-screen candidates: an employer can break EEOC and ADA and every other employment law in the World with impunity. Now TRY to prove they are doing it.

      "Let's google Joe Schoe of buttfuck, potatoehoe. Huh, he's involved with drug rehab community (probably been an addict), OOoo a picture at a Mosque (he looks kinda brown), and here's a picture at a shooting range. Nope! He looks like a drug addict Muslim who's training for a mass shooting."

      Discrimination? Good fucking luck proving it!

      False positive? That's how all employers work already.

    2. Re:Facebook == Flaming assholes by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

      Why do you think I don't use so-called 'social media'? Why do you think I don't use my real name online anywhere, unless it's some sort of official business, in which case it's not publicly posted anyway? Why do you think I don't put my address on my resume if I have to post it online? I wouldn't put my phone number on it either if I thought I could do that and still get taken seriously, and I use a different email address on it, one I can abandon if it get shitted up too much with spam.

  10. Trust them to protect your data, no really! by swell · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've always assumed that the smart business model for data aggregators like Facebook, Amazon and Google is to NEVER give their data to anyone. If an advertiser wants to reach a certain demographic they just describe the demographic to the data aggregator and their message will be delivered. The advertiser never sees the list of advertisees.

    The advantage is that the aggregator has something better than patent or copyright; it has exclusive data available nowhere else. No way they're ever going to leak that data. If that happens, they have nothing left to sell.

    If this is true, your personal data is probably quite safe in their hands. But I'm only guessing.

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    1. Re:Trust them to protect your data, no really! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unless you are desperate or a startup. Or someone big will offer to pay more, knowing a predatory position may bankrupt or set back your main compeditor. EU is correct that start ups have ZERO chance of catching up to the big boys.

      The alternate someone siphons off key info on say BGP traffic and slowly deconstructs https packets. Oh wait..

  11. Microsoft 2.0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This sounds alot like what Microsoft and Intel did with PC makers when everyone hated them.

    Zuckerberg sounds much like what Gates was in those days