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AT&T Opens 5G Network in 12 US Cities, Announces Pricing For First 5G Mobile Device and Service (venturebeat.com)
AT&T said Tuesday its network is now live in parts of 12 cities across the United States, with the first mobile 5G device arriving on Friday, December 21. From a report: According to an AT&T spokesperson, the company's 5G network is already up and running in parts of the previously promised dozen cities: Atlanta, Charlotte, Dallas, Houston, Indianapolis, Jacksonville, Louisville, Oklahoma City, New Orleans, Raleigh, San Antonio, and Waco. However, the first consumer device that will be able to access that network, Netgear's Nighthawk 5G Mobile Hotspot, will become available just ahead of the Christmas holiday.
The company also revealed that it will be using the name "5G+" for the part of its network that will use millimeter wave spectrum and technologies, and it said the Nighthawk 5G Mobile Hotspot will run on that 5G+ network. [...] AT&T's 5G pricing is also interesting. Like Verizon, AT&T is offering an initial promotion that makes the hardware and 5G service cheap up front, with new pricing set to follow later. Early adopters from the consumer, small business, and business markets will be able to "get the mobile 5G device and wireless data at no cost for at least 90 days," AT&T says, with new pricing beginning in spring 2019. At that point, the Nighthawk 5G Mobile Hotspot will cost $499 outright, with 15GB of 5G service priced at $70 per month, which AT&T calls "comparable" to its current $50 monthly charge for 10GB of 4G data.
The company also revealed that it will be using the name "5G+" for the part of its network that will use millimeter wave spectrum and technologies, and it said the Nighthawk 5G Mobile Hotspot will run on that 5G+ network. [...] AT&T's 5G pricing is also interesting. Like Verizon, AT&T is offering an initial promotion that makes the hardware and 5G service cheap up front, with new pricing set to follow later. Early adopters from the consumer, small business, and business markets will be able to "get the mobile 5G device and wireless data at no cost for at least 90 days," AT&T says, with new pricing beginning in spring 2019. At that point, the Nighthawk 5G Mobile Hotspot will cost $499 outright, with 15GB of 5G service priced at $70 per month, which AT&T calls "comparable" to its current $50 monthly charge for 10GB of 4G data.
if the speeds are to be believed, 15 GB will take what 3 minutes to max out???
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So based on it arriving next year, it will probably be 2025 before it is both in my mid-sized town, AND affordable enough to actually use for all but the most wealthy of families.
That's OK... faster is always better, but I don't feel a pressing need to do 5G. 4G is good enough for most things.
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I've been thinking about moving to Waco. This just sealed it.
att OTT tv will not count or if it does then it's time to think about dish before att kills directv and there is an long waiting list to get service.
and att things they can replace dsl with this?
Then that has an much bigger cap.
I am happy with 3G at 10kb/s if it is consistent and 24/7.
Consistent connectivity has been more important than speed for me for 20+ years. Websites and downloads work a lot better the more bandwidth you have, but not all of us need to download a feature film every few minutes to enjoy the connectivity we have. And for many of us, unlimited quota matters more.
$500 for an att only router? with battery and screen? If they want to replace dsl then they need an much cheaper one with an antenna port.
this has the real potential to get them broadband where it's too expensive to run cable but with prices like this it's not really practical. You'd think they'd be more upset by that.
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They've launched their last satellite.
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Is this 5G or "5G"?
Will this shit even work properly or will it crash and burn if you walk behind a thick wall, AKA any building in any old city in every country?
I heard there was a lot of discussion on companies trying to test beamforming for actual, proper 5G to be useful, and the expected costs of the transceivers being 5 digits and people worrying it could be used to triangulate people to an even higher degree of accuracy due to the beamforming required to actually target the region you're at in the first place.
Not to mention the damn near impossible-to-test-for geometry issues in every city that exists, causing varying degrees of interference patterns.
So, this is "5G", right? AKA super-boosted 4G just to rip off millions more people?
Even Waco, of all places, is getting 5G. Take this! David Koresh would have been really proud if he was still alive.
I don't care about increasing my cell phone, I want to ditch cable internet. And this either doesn't seem to address that market or at 15G max for $70 certainly doesn't meet the need.
There is no such thing as a 5G network, or 4G, 3G, 2G, etc.
The entire wireless network was paid for in the 1980s / early 1990s and everything after that has been nothing but profit for the greedy capitalists. I know this because I read it on Slashdot.
The billions of dollars that the wireless carriers spend on network upgrades every year are just pretend. Everything was already paid for by that ten million bucks back in 1988. Slashdot comments tell me so.
First off, these first phones will be worthless within one year as they will have limited frequencies. As more bandwidth is applied these phones won't be able to access those new frequencies. Apple is correct in their wait until things advance. People who can get 5G will be amazed at how often it isn't available. The band in which these phones communicate limits distances so much so that if you can't see the tower don't expect a signal. 5G will NOT go through walls in general.
The best that 5G will bring at this point is if you are sitting in a cafe in a large metro area. For any one else in America you're just buying a bleeding edge device that will cause more grief than value. But you'll have bragging rights.
I'm not saying that I believe the next statement but just wait and see that these phones will be attacked far more than any other cell phone for the cause of cancers. The frequencies used in 5G are so much higher that I could actually believe that they might cause cancer. To this point in time I believe those claims are false and just a ruse to make money. But being a bit more wiser than the average person and having a Ham radio license when I was 12 years old ( gave it up since ) I use to play with the effects of the radio waves on objects. Hold a fluroscent bulb over a transmitter and watch it light up because of the RF begin given off. Yea, I can't say that newer transceivers do that today but when I was a kid in the 1960's they sure did. LOL
While over-the-air bandwidth is bound by Shannon's limit, that only applies to shared channels. The MU-MIMO found on most 802.11ac implementations gets around this limitation by making the channels directional. It's basically a simplified form of phased array radar, where you can "point" the antenna via software rather than have to physically move it. For a visual analogy, 802.11a/b/g/n is like turning the room light on and off, and the device receive the light signal by measuring the overall brightness of the room. MIMO is like the sender shining a laser pointer at the receiver, and the receiver using a tube to reject light from any direction other than the sender's direction. Whereas the room light affects and interferes with all other light-based communication in the room (the channel is shared), the laser pointer only interferes if you happen to be in the same line as the sender to recipient. Since the information channel is no longer shared, the Shannon limit no longer applies, and everyone is able to use the full bandwidth of the airwaves simultaneously.
5G includes MIMO, enabling it to communicate with individual devices simultaneously over the same frequencies without interference. So going forward, I expect the Shannon limit to be less and less relevant to wireless communications.
As I've been saying, 5G doesn't really benefit you in the best-case scenarios people usually use for comparisons (nobody except you is using the cell tower for data). It benefits you in the worst-case scenario (lots of other people are competing with you for bandwidth to a cell tower).
LTE Advanced offers speeds over 100 megabits per second. How is 5G better than LTE Advanced, besides being faster?
Not one single Slashdot conspiracy theorist has said a word about the controversial stuff regarding 5G. There's plenty of youtube videos about it luckily, but you guys are slacking. Feel free to start posting your theories under this thread.
They say that like it's a good thing? 10gb on 4G for $50. Here you get 250gb on 4G for â50 and even at that we complain. Jesus AT&T.. sort yourself out!