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Forget Dot Com, 2019 Will Finally be the Year of Weird Domain Names (wired.co.uk)

An anonymous reader shares a report: Latest registration figures released by Verisign, an internet network company that oversees some domain name endings, seem to indicate that after a rocky few years, new gTLDs may finally be finding their niche in the marketplace. 2019 could be the year of the obscure domain name. Registrations for new gTLDs rose by nearly 11 per cent in the last year, compared to an average 3.5 per cent increase across the entire domain landscape, according to Verisign. One in five domain name registrations in the last year were on new gTLDs.

"The numbers are picking up as well as the usage," says Thomas Keller of 1&1 IONOS, a German web hosting company. In part that's down to saturation in more traditional domain name endings like dot-com, and country code TLDs (such as .uk, .tk and .cn). It's difficult to get good, precise and short dot-com domain names now, but hyper-specific and new gTLDs still have plenty of choice. Around ten per cent of new URLs registered through 1&1 IONOS were for new gTLds, Keller says.

93 comments

  1. slash.dot by Spy+Handler · · Score: 2

    i own it, bitches!

    1. Re:slash.dot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      slashdot.com would likely be valuable since you'd get a large number of visitors from people entering the wrong domain, but nobody is going to visit slash.dot, which rather illustrates the lack of value of these gTLDs. Just looking who owns slashdot.com, it says:

      Name: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
      Organization: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
      Mailing Address: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY

      This REDACTED FOR PRIVACY guy has been buying a lot of domains since 25 May 2018. I don't know what he's planning, but I've got my eye on him.

    2. Re: slash.dot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That +10% increase in gTld is due to two things:

      Registrars using cheap prices

      Spammers taking advantage of cheap prices with stolen credit cards.

    3. Re:slash.dot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even better: https://slash.dot.slashdot (aitch tee tee pee ess colon slash slash slash dot dot dot slash dot).

  2. No it won't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    For intellectual property reasons you will still want to own the .com or risk confusing your customers forever. Sure there are some people using a few things like .io, but that is going to be rare for a long time for larger corporations.

  3. Oh good, more entries for the spam filters by ahodgson · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ugh.

    1. Re:Oh good, more entries for the spam filters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yep my spam filter has over 50 TLDs that are permanently blocked because no one I know uses them, but they are used by spammers.

      All it takes is ONE spam from these throw away TLDs and it gets blocked forever. But then again, I also have whole countries that are blocked too because the only thing that comes from them is spam, scams and malware.

    2. Re:Oh good, more entries for the spam filters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You may want to just switch from blocking select to blocking all, except approved TLDs, but then again - that would be both security positive and discriminating against (possibly good) traffic? /sigh

    3. Re:Oh good, more entries for the spam filters by ahodgson · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah. Anything from Eastern Europe is straight to junk. Much of the rest of the world gets a big score boost.

    4. Re:Oh good, more entries for the spam filters by tripleevenfall · · Score: 1

      But I'm FROM Christmas Island, you insensitive clod!

    5. Re:Oh good, more entries for the spam filters by antdude · · Score: 1

      lee for ugh.lee domain. ;)

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    6. Re:Oh good, more entries for the spam filters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just say Ukraine and stop trying to be PC.

    7. Re:Oh good, more entries for the spam filters by ahodgson · · Score: 1

      Russia, Belarus, Romania, Poland, and the Ukraine. All straight to junk. Russia in particular is the source of probably 70% of the malware I see in the last year.

  4. ICANN can go fuck themselves by damn_registrars · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They made a terrible, terrible decision with selling gTLDs. They'll be happy when the money is coming in but the wheels will come off on this con and we will all be stuck holding the bag. The sale of gTLDs is the ultimate win for global spamming and phishing operations as they will be able to start an arbitrary number of obfuscated domains and as the owner of their own gTLD they will be accountable to exactly nobody. They'll be able to negotiate with each other for more registrations, making the currently hopeless game of whac-a-mole we're playing look structured and logical.

    Thanks a lot ICANN. I hope you money grubbing assholes rot in hell, and soon. We can't put this genie back in the bottle.

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    1. Re:ICANN can go fuck themselves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only reason anyone would buy one of these is to protect the .com they already own.

      Or, as you say, to scam users of someone else's .com.

    2. Re:ICANN can go fuck themselves by chispito · · Score: 1

      They made a terrible, terrible decision with selling gTLDs. They'll be happy when the money is coming in but the wheels will come off on this con and we will all be stuck holding the bag. The sale of gTLDs is the ultimate win for global spamming and phishing operations as they will be able to start an arbitrary number of obfuscated domains and as the owner of their own gTLD they will be accountable to exactly nobody. They'll be able to negotiate with each other for more registrations, making the currently hopeless game of whac-a-mole we're playing look structured and logical. Thanks a lot ICANN. I hope you money grubbing assholes rot in hell, and soon. We can't put this genie back in the bottle.

      So what is your solution to increase the address space for law abiding people but avoid the problems you highlight?

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    3. Re:ICANN can go fuck themselves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only reason anyone would buy one of these is to protect the .com they already own.

      Or, as you say, to scam users of someone else's .com.

      My question is ... when can you bulk buy all gTLD with your specific domain name? I mean, yeah - you may buy the common sort, but I would think the rest should be free, especially if it's a trademark (eg. Microsoft should be able to secure microsoft.*).

    4. Re:ICANN can go fuck themselves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Try putting letters together in different ways like drug companies do. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to register microsoft.corn.

    5. Re:ICANN can go fuck themselves by Desler · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Since when did we run out of .com, .net, .org, etc. addresses? Did we all miss that memo?

    6. Re:ICANN can go fuck themselves by slack_justyb · · Score: 1

      I'm not saying, "That won't happen!!" What I am saying is that the current fee is $185,000 to start up a new gTLD, plus a $25,000 yearly fee, plus there's a sunrise period, review period before you do go live because you also need to submit a rules and regulation prospectus to ICANN, that review period is to look over everything you've submitted and can take as long as four years to complete, and you need to provide the name/address of your legal representative whom they indicate that they will be contacting. You can find all of that at ICANNs site about getting a new gTLD. So yeah, so if someone is really, really, really wanting to do that which you described, there's little stopping them outside of the process that's been indicated.

      As far as if gTLDs are good or bad. Meh, I can think of worse things that ICANN could have done. I'm pretty ambivalent about them really. I think you're looking at the absolute worse case here, which means you're still technically correct. There's just a ton of better ways folks can already go about obfuscating junk and I think they'll go those routes way before they attempt starting up a brand new gTLD.

    7. Re:ICANN can go fuck themselves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shhh, spammer scammer partners and enablers like 1&1 IONOS are making a fortune from this BS. They will be sellignthese new 'domains' by the thousand, while sabotaging legitimate accounts. This is another huge mis-step by ICANN, right into the wide-open arms of all cybercriminals. Well done. Wonder who at ICANN suddenly "got" a new Mercedes AMG 6.3.....

    8. Re:ICANN can go fuck themselves by Hognoxious · · Score: 0

      As far as if gTLDs are good or bad. Meh, I can think of worse things that ICANN could have done.

      Have they got round to unicode yet?

      That'll be fun - a link to bankgrandmotheruses.com, except one of the characters has a tiny little umlaut or squiggly thing.

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    9. Re: ICANN can go fuck themselves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Brief domain names are no longer necessary. Websites donâ(TM)t primarily spread by word of mouth or by people reading them in print. Many people just use search engines anyway. Twitter doesnâ(TM)t count long links against character limits.

      So why is the lack of available short domains even worth caring about any more?

    10. Re:ICANN can go fuck themselves by Etcetera · · Score: 1

      So what is your solution to increase the address space for law abiding people but avoid the problems you highlight?

      This isn't IPv4. We're not running out of space in traditional gTLDs, country codes, or the secondary and tertiary level domains in the countries that have them.

      If you want to sell shoes online and shoes.com is taken, "shoes.shop" is not a solution to your trademark, branding, or advertising problem. You can pick a broader "domain name" within the existing TLD that more uniquely identifies yourself, *OR* you can use delegated subdomains for your small local shop. The bigger issue is that the giant influx of new gTLD is completely ontologically offensive . That's where the anger comes -- this was an absurd cash grab that ICANN should remain forever ashamed of.

      Also keep in mind that "shoes.shop" does nothing that "shoes.shop.com" couldn't do. We're not running out of space in any meaningful manner.

    11. Re:ICANN can go fuck themselves by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      They made a terrible, terrible decision with selling gTLDs

      They made a terrible decision selling and TLDs! Having ".com, .org, .net" etc didn't add anything of value; it just added confusion.

      This website should be
      https://slashdot/

      Google should be
      https://google/

      Microsoft should be
      https://microsoft/

      - simpler, easier, and less confusion with other sites. I'm not saying that "." shouldn't be allowed but it should be treated no different to any other character in the URL. The different TLD just made it easier for website squatters to have more places to squat.

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    12. Re:ICANN can go fuck themselves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This does barely anything to increase the domain address space and is just a money grab by ICANN and the n/gTLD domain applicants. A vast majority of domains will have to be additionally registered under these new TLDs to protect trademark and if you are a popular online service, to keep scammers from buying up an alternate TLD of your own .com/.net/.org. People/companies are going to have to spend money on these junk TLDs that they might otherwise never even use just to protect themselves and their brand.

    13. Re:ICANN can go fuck themselves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, no, I run my own mail server and block everything but country codes I trust, and .com, .net, .gov, .mil Everything else (either by reverse DNS or by from extension) is rejected. So adding gTLDs has made it trivial to block a great deal of spam.

    14. Re:ICANN can go fuck themselves by SethJohnson · · Score: 1

      Or, the forecast for an increase in GLTD reservations could be people hijacking Rudy Guiliani tweets.

    15. Re:ICANN can go fuck themselves by damn_registrars · · Score: 2

      Actually, no, I run my own mail server and block everything but country codes I trust, and .com, .net, .gov, .mil Everything else (either by reverse DNS or by from extension) is rejected. So adding gTLDs has made it trivial to block a great deal of spam.

      You missed the point. The email itself won't come from "bobsmagicboner.pillz", even if it is spamvertising for that domain. The email will still come from hotmail.com, gmail.com, microsoft.com, yahoo.com, or be spoofed to one of those. However the spamvertised domain will be one that is making someone lots of money while that person has absolutely zero liability for what is happening under their gTLD. The owner of said gTLD will be allowed - in perpetuity no less - to sell any number of subdomains under their gTLD as well and will never need to take any responsibility for it.

      While the spamming epidemic has been rather awful before, it's only going to get worse. Just wait until the maniacs who always called for public extralegal executions of spammers come to realize that there will no longer even be a mechanism for law enforcement (even at the Interpol level) to find out the true identities behind nefarious sites.

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    16. Re:ICANN can go fuck themselves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Meh. Actually makes blocking spam easier. I block ALL of these "vanity" TLD's right at the mail server. Blocked outright, no spam checks, they're done.

      No normal business or person would actually use these TLD's. If you do then you're going to be blocked not just by me but by a huge swath of the Internet and it will be unusable for mail.

      They're totally worthless but do congregate spammers in one place easy to block.

    17. Re:ICANN can go fuck themselves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep. There is no need at all for the rest of the nonsense. I'd even go further - default protocol for a browser should be https, so really you should get this website served via https just by entering "slashdot" in the address bar.

    18. Re:ICANN can go fuck themselves by sit1963nz · · Score: 1

      I have a white listed email account.

      Unless you are on my white list, I NEVER see anything you send.

      You can spoof what ever domain you like, I STILL do not see any spam.

    19. Re:ICANN can go fuck themselves by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

      If you're willing to accept the costs of doing that and it works for you, great. Very few people can accept that configuration for themselves.

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    20. Re:ICANN can go fuck themselves by damn_registrars · · Score: 1
      As I mentioned previously spammers rarely send the email from their spamvertised domain, so filtering based on where the email came from won't get you anywhere.

      They're totally worthless but do congregate spammers in one place easy to block.

      Unlikely. How would you craft a regex to parse through the message body to find new vanity gTLDs? It's also a given that they'll play whac-a-mole with various domain obfuscation services as well to make it more difficult to filter out the emails by domain name. This just adds another layer of murkiness to the whole deal.

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  5. Stuttering? by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    What value is there in owning Slash Dot Dot?

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    1. Re:Stuttering? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      An approximate value would be dot dash dash dash, dot dash, dash dot dash dot, dash dot dash, dot dot dot, dot dot dot dot, dot dot, dash

      ( Lameness filter encountered.
      Your comment violated the "postercomment" compression filter. Try less whitespace and/or less repetition. )

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    2. Re:Stuttering? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slash dot dash dot Slash dot dash dot com!

      Why else would you own it?
      Center of the page, embed that video.
      ????
      Profit!

  6. I think the new gTDLs are dumb. by jawtheshark · · Score: 2

    I think the new gTDLs are dumb. I know why they did it amd why they think this time it will work: barrier of entry. Look at .biz: intended to alleviate the .com shortage, but buying one is cheap and as such everyone could buy one including for very shady studf. Not so gTDLs. No way I could even dream of getting one. I believe it's a minimum of $35k to apply for one, basically limiting the audience to companies and eccentric millionaires.

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    1. Re:I think the new gTDLs are dumb. by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      basically limiting the audience to companies and eccentric millionaires.

      And scammers.

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    2. Re:I think the new gTDLs are dumb. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Abe Simpson: I'm an old man. I hate everything but Matlock!

    3. Re:I think the new gTDLs are dumb. by techno-vampire · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Blame the registrars and the clueless computer users for the shortage of .com domains. I have a pair of friends, nice people but completely clueless when it comes to computers. When their daughter was borne, they bought a domain with her name so that they could put up a website about their infant daughter. Not only that, they bought DAUGHTER'SNAME.com, even though it had nothing to do with a business simply because they thought that all websites in the US ended in .com and the registrar let them. The request should have been refused because it's an improper use of the TLD, and they should have had to pick either .org or .us, with the latter being the best choice. If people weren't allowed to have .com domains unless they were for commercial use, there'd be a lot more of them available.

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    4. Re:I think the new gTDLs are dumb. by null+etc. · · Score: 1

      And how would you enforce that a .com domain is or is not legitimately used for commercial endeavors?

    5. Re:I think the new gTDLs are dumb. by techno-vampire · · Score: 1

      Good question. I'd have the registrars require people requesting to buy a .com domain to explain what they're going to use it for, and reject any (with an explanation of what .com is for) that don't qualify. Granted, people can and will lie about it, but at least the companies will have made a good faith effort. And, at least some of those requesting .com will change to a more appropriate TLD once they understand. (I'm fairly sure my friends would have if they'd known.)

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    6. Re:I think the new gTDLs are dumb. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The .us TLD costs more to register a domain (by double) and has restrictive rules. Therefor, I bought a .com for my parents and siblings.

  7. Beware of incompatabilities by jtara · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Beware of incompatibilities due to assumptions that domain names have no more than a 3-letter TLD.

    The company I work for has a .education domain. They were not able to open a bank account at a certain bank, because their system does not permit an email address with a TLD > 3 characters.

    Although I HATE the practice of multiple domains to "brand" different functionalities or marketing channels (example.com, example-mail.com, example-cloud.com, myexample.com (I especially hate the "my" prefix...)) I had proactively set up .net for our backend API (our company name includes the word "education" at the end). Multiple domains with similar names confuse consumers, leaving them uncertain if an auxiliary domain is really associated with the main one. And then it slowly entrains them to automatically trust, which they shouldn't. IBM is currently going through a painful rebranding of bluemix.net to cloud.ibm.com. Which is what it should have been in the first place. (They are also rebranding softlayer.com/net at the same time, not avoidable by thinking ahead, since it was an acquisition.)

    So anyhoo, then I had to set up .com so that we could open a bank account at the bank that only takes 3-letter TLDs. That's probably what we should have had in the first place. Thankfully, the company name is long enough that .com and .net were available, so long as we used the full company name with "education" included.

    1. Re:Beware of incompatabilities by jtara · · Score: 1

      FWIW, I realize we could have used the .net that I already had set up for the bank account. I wanted to keep infrastructure separate, which actually is in keeping with the original intent of .net.

      We use the .com as an "emergency" email domain in case we run into further issues dealing with others that can't handle a .education domain.

      I recall registering live.net many, many years ago, at a cost of $0, by sending an insecure email.(I was the original registrant.) live.com had been taken a few months earlier. I had to come up with a justification that this had something to do with "network infrastructure". Since the purpose of the site was to put live cameras on the web, I was able to make some sort of an infrastructure argument because of the video feed aspect.

    2. Re: Beware of incompatabilities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's on the webdev doing shitty regex. .info has been around since 2002

      Hire non-Indian webdevs.

    3. Re: Beware of incompatabilities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And .info barely matters. So no big loss.

    4. Re: Beware of incompatabilities by jtara · · Score: 1

      That's on the webdev doing shitty regex. .info has been around since 2002

      Hire non-Indian webdevs.

      Unfortunately, I don't work for the bank.

      But name a bank - or a phone company (I'm looking at you, ATT) that doesn't hire non-third-world webdevs.

      The Peter Principle was right. The greatest incompetence works it's way to the top.

      I sometimes answer questions about jQuery (a dying thing, I know) and am just appalled at the garbage that ATT's webdevs produce. (I know this, because they come crying for help, and post links to their internal development site, instead of bothering to make a jsFiddle.) Every dev (new one for every project, of course) adds another layer to the complexity, with two more scripts that solve the same problem as a dozen scripts from their predecessors...

    5. Re: Beware of incompatabilities by jtara · · Score: 1

      And .info barely matters. So no big loss.

      I actually don't know if that bank accepts a .info or not. Maybe their limit is 4 characters. Maybe they use a list. I know their site (and apparently even internal systems - I asked if they could just open an account at a branch, the old-fashioned way) cannot accept a .education.

      Filtering .info would be a good way for the bank to avoid dealing with scammy customers, though!

    6. Re: Beware of incompatabilities by jtara · · Score: 1

      But name a bank - or a phone company (I'm looking at you, ATT) that doesn't hire non-third-world webdevs.

      Sorry, I meant "...that doesn't hire third-world webdevs"

      (When does slashdot get an edit functionality?)

    7. Re: Beware of incompatabilities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You meant "its way" too. Just sayin'.

    8. Re:Beware of incompatabilities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speaking of which, why is it that the support at IBM has tanked? I used to get responses in 24 hours every time from RS, EV1, ThePlanet, and SoftLayer, but now that it's part of IBM, I have all my support cases open for over a week with no response.

    9. Re:Beware of incompatabilities by Pascal+Sartoretti · · Score: 1

      Beware of incompatibilities due to assumptions that domain names have no more than a 3-letter TLD.

      My domain name (and thus my e-mail address) ends with ".name", the TLD intended for individuals. I had some issues 10-15 years ago when I started using it, but nothing in at least 5 years.

      However, I would strongly advise against using non-ASCII characters...

  8. Re:TheREALPrisonerTrump@ADX_FLORENCE.doc.gov by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    prison terms starting for the Fraud family.

    Yep, the walls are closing in on the Clintons now!

  9. Re:TheREALPrisonerTrump@ADX_FLORENCE.doc.gov by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is that what you tell your sister to get her horny while you're plowing her?

  10. Simple albeit high overhead solution to this: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stop using clearnet for hosting your websites or running your services.

    Does that sound insane? The internet has gone insane.

    If you want to regain control, start moving your web access to overlay networks like Tor, I2P, CJDNS, etc. The ones that have DNS namespaces only have one (Tor is strictly their onion v2/v3 keys, while I2P supports key names as well as DNS style aliases looked up via the router and public/private addressbooks. Hell to avoid ICANN while still having immutable domain names, you can run that blockchain domain service atop it and have it resolve to .i2p, .onion, etc domains.)

    What is the added benefit of all this hassle? You're not trapped by what is accessable from a particular region of the world. You can provide web services even from inside a NAT or firewall. Having your web address doesn't magically let people guess who you are.

    Following this path will just throw you back into the 1990s of internet access. Eventually the governments and the plebs will flood it and it will become institutionalized in the same way that the internet has been. But for now it paves the way to keep your services running, provides the same protection from spam as this gTLD mess, saves you on bills for IP addresses and domain names (since they only cost as much as it takes your cpu to generate them, or the time to register in an addressbook on I2P.) Even without the claimed anonymity benefits of I2P or Tor (which may not exist with modern CPUs, Spectre, and Management Engines), the benefits of address portability and independence, and inability for a DDoS to reach your node with the level of traffic requiring you to hire Cloudflare or Akamai to front your website, will save you in the long run and help push back against the sicknesses sweeping the clearnet.

    As a final note: there are inproxies to I2P and Tor (I haven't heard of one for CJDNS), so even users from the clear web can gain access, although SSL keys may throw warnings.

  11. No, it's not by Voyager529 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, for those of us keeping score, we've already tried giving alternatives to .com, .org, and .net, but they haven't picked up.

    The problem, ultimately, is twofold. First, people don't associate anything other than the big three (and maybe .gov) with websites at all. So, people will likely do something like "okay, so i typed in slashdot.cc.com, and it's not loading..." - though, to be fair, it's been a while since I've come across a user who understands the difference between an address bar and a search bar, so Google would end up resolving it most of the time anyway.

    More to the point, can you think of an established company or brand whose primary website is any of these other TLDs? Of the top 50 sites globally, only Twitch.tv doesn't end in .com, .org, .net, or a country's TLD. Even the porn industry couldn't make ".xxx" take off. If you're handing out business cards with something else, you're going to be seen as 'too small to get a .com', and spend lots of your time figuring out that people are e-mailing 'foobar.com' instead of 'foobar.vodka'; it saves everyone time to register 'foobarGA.com' or something else that ultimately ends in a recognizable TLD.

    The issue is human nature, and the fact that custom TLDs don't translate to websites for most people...and there is neither a principle nor a profit motivation for using anything other than the TLDs that already do their job well.

    1. Re:No, it's not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So, for those of us keeping score, we've already tried giving alternatives to .com, .org, and .net, but they haven't picked up.

      Yup. My company uses companyname.net, and has for many years (because the .com was bought way back in the 1990s).

      Even within the company, lots of employees say their email address is firstname.lastname@companyname.com.

      People are used to saying .com, and it will take a long time for anything else...

    2. Re:No, it's not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, I work at a (decent sized, but still crappy) hosting company, and I can tell you that the vast majority of our stupid customers still redirect their domain to www, and a frighteningly large number of them have sites that don't work at all unless you go to www.somelameassdomainname.com.

      People are STILL stuck with that mid-to-late nineties mentality, and here they are trying to get us to change the TLDs?

      Forget it.

    3. Re:No, it's not by nine-times · · Score: 2

      I definitely think part of the problem, honestly, is that the whole domain naming system was bad marketing in the first place. It's a pretty clever technical solution, but bad marketing. People got on the internet, and they want to go to find stuff about Sony, so they go to the address bar and type "sony". It doesn't work.

      So then someone explains, "No, you have to type http://www.sony.com./"

      "Why?"

      "I don't know, that's just how the internet works. You have to put 'http://www.' in front of everything and then '.com' at the end of everything. If you want Sony, it's http://www.sony.com./ If you want Microsoft, it's http://www.microsoft.com./ It's too complicated to explain why. It just is."

      Then they drop to "www.". Then you don't have to type in the "http://" anymore. Then the address bar becomes a hybrid address/search bar. Most people still don't understand what the deal was with the "http://" or the "www." or the ".com" or why you need any of it. And they still don't have to, and they're not going to. The explosion of TLDs is probably just going to make people rely even more on the reputation of search results.

    4. Re:No, it's not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      FYI, ".tv" is a country's TLD. Tuvalu made the decision that they could make money by selling the management rights, but ultimately it's still theirs.

    5. Re:No, it's not by Solandri · · Score: 2

      It's a holdover from the way domain names were originally envisioned as being used. sony.com would be like a TLD for Sony, and they could add subdomains to it will. usa.sony.com, japan.sony.com, mobile.sony.com, playstation.sony.com, etc. Websites were supposed to be one of those subdomains, hence www.sony.com. The website is supposed to be on www.sony.com, and if you point a browser at sony.com it's supposed to auto-forward you to www.sony.com.

      Alas it didn't work out that way, and for whatever reason people decided to just register playstation.com, sonymobile.com, etc. I never really understood this, since if you know Sony owns sony.com, then you automatically know that playstation.sony.com is a legit Sony site. If you see playstation.com or sonymobile.com, you can't be sure if it's really a Sony site, or a site set up by someone who just managed to register the domain before Sony. Same problem as with these new TLDs actually.

    6. Re:No, it's not by nine-times · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I get it. I'm suggesting that it was just bad marketing.

      And yes, I know a lot of people are going to be like, "well marketing is stupid, so who cares?" But on a human psychological level, it just wasn't going to work. Even without the issues of the domain land-grabs and squatting, it would just be too much planning on the business side, and too much to keep track of on the consumer side.

      Like you're Sony, and you make www.playstation.sony.com. Then the Playstation 2 comes out. I suppose technically you should move all the Playstation 1 information to www.ps1.playstation.sony.com and then make www.ps2.playstation.com... maybe...? Or do you do www.playstation2.sony.com? Is the PSP supposed to go into www.psp.playstation.sony.com or www.psp.sony.com or www.portable.playstation.sony.com?

      Basically you need to be an expert in library science to figure out the best way of categorizing those things. Nobody is going to want to bother. They just want to stick ".com" on the end of the thing they're looking for. So it's "playstation.com".

  12. Re: Forget Dot Com, 2019 Will Finally Be The Year. by tripleevenfall · · Score: 1

    FALSE.

    2019 will finally be The Year Of Linux On The Desktop (tm)

  13. True. (But .xxx was one scumbag) by raymorris · · Score: 1

    Your point is valid. Just FYI:

    > Even the porn industry couldn't make ".xxx" take off.

    The porn industry fought against .xxx. .xxx was a scumbag who bought the TLD, then lobbied government to *force* all adult sites to buy from him, and only him. Much like .net was originally for networks and .org was for non-profits, he wanted to legally force all adult sites to .xxx, while he rolled in the dough. The porn industry saw him for the scum bag he was, and also saw the writing all on the wall - after government forces any content that isn't kid-friendly onto .xxx, what would be the next step in censorship? Most didn't want to go down that path.

    The scum bag would have happened better luck if he added another step to his plan. He should have first become a senator, then sponsored the bill to legally force everyone to buy carbon credits^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H domain names from him.

    1. Re:True. (But .xxx was one scumbag) by Riceballsan · · Score: 2

      I've always been more borderline on the concept of whether something should be done like that (not agreeing with the one scumbag owning the TLD). It sucks that we can't really trust government, and that we have a lack of competition in ISPs. Personally I do think it should be easier for parents to block content for their children, and schools, workplaces etc... as well. Though i also do agree, with the collapse of net neutrality, and the tendency of "think of the children" legislation etc... I wish it were feasible to make it easier to control the content on devices and networks you own, that wouldn't inevitably be turned into a "You can't do this on your own network that you pay the bill for".

  14. .uk or .gb by QuietLagoon · · Score: 1

    When do I use one instead of the other?

    1. Re:.uk or .gb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget .co.uk! Probably
      Fuck this .co.shit mess, it's the worst.
      In fact, fuck the whole TLD system.
      Bring back newsgroups.

  15. Block them all by schwit1 · · Score: 1

    If you want to use those TLDs you make that choice for yourself, you don't make it for me.

    This is no different than blocking IP spaces from Trashcanistan.

    1. Re:Block them all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I expect I'll be adding several new domains to my auto-deletion spam list over the next year. The only people who use the new TLDs seem to be spammers.

  16. Re: Forget Dot Com, 2019 Will Finally Be The Year. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FALSE.

    2019 will finally be The Year Of Linux On The Desktop (tm)

    No, no, the Paperless Office(R) !

  17. slashdot.weird by PPH · · Score: 1

    When?

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  18. Linus on a Desktop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Least it isn't a laptop. Linus is a bit heavy to sit on one of those.

  19. Nazi homosexual recruiter RAY MORRIS caught DEAD! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  20. In case you're wondering what it costs... by nuckfuts · · Score: 1

    The evaluation fee is US$185,000. Applicants will be required to pay a US$5,000 deposit fee per requested application slot when registering. The deposit will be credited against the evaluation fee. Other fees may apply depending on the specific application path.

    1. Re:In case you're wondering what it costs... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The evaluation fee is US$185,000. Applicants will be required to pay a US$5,000 deposit fee per requested application slot when registering. The deposit will be credited against the evaluation fee. Other fees may apply depending on the specific application path.

      Of course it is expensive. That's the 'wholesale' price, which will be paid by Registry Service Providers, Internet Hosting Services, etc.

      It will trickle down, eventually.

    2. Re:In case you're wondering what it costs... by nuckfuts · · Score: 1

      The evaluation fee is US$185,000. Applicants will be required to pay a US$5,000 deposit fee per requested application slot when registering. The deposit will be credited against the evaluation fee. Other fees may apply depending on the specific application path.

      Of course it is expensive. That's the 'wholesale' price, which will be paid by Registry Service Providers, Internet Hosting Services, etc.

      It will trickle down, eventually.

      If you're thinking that some else (a Registry Service Provider) will bear the brunt of these fees, that's not quite right. Anyone who applies for a dTLD is in effect applying to become a Registry Service Provider. As described in the FAQ:

      Please note that applying for a new gTLD is not the same as buying a domain name. An applicant for a new gTLD is, in fact, applying to create and operate a registry business supporting the Internet's domain name system. This involves a number of significant responsibilities, as the operator of a new gTLD is running a piece of visible Internet infrastructure.

  21. "not appropriate for children" by raymorris · · Score: 1

    I too would like it to be easier. Unfortunately, I can't have a bureaucrat or politician deciding what is to be censored and what isn't. The phrase used in the most similar laws is "not appropriate for children". Well, Slashdot is often not appropriate for young children. In fact many of the posts are just simply inappropriate - for anyone. So the censor decides Slashdot goes on the bad list, on .xxx.

    There were a couple of voluntary self-labeling efforts that got some traction, but there are so many amateur-made porn sites run by people who don't know what they're doing that coverage would never approach 100%.

    Many years ago I started a project that would have had sites appropriately labeled as a side effect, but it got really big, with multiple multi-millionaires involved, and I chickened out. At the time, in the 1990s, there were perhaps a few hundred people who ran most of the porn sites. They were mostly hosted by about four hosting companies, and used one of three payment processors (two of which were called "AVS" systems).

    Anyway the idea was if a site owner joined our club, they'd agree to follow the peofessional code of ethics and they get a small discount on web hosting, buying content, etc. Offering the discount would benefit hosting companies and others in two ways. First, we'd tell all of our members "buy from this hosting company and get a discount" - it's marketing. Secondly, hosting companies, programmers, and others spend an inordinate amount of time dealing with customers who send spam and otherwise cause problems. Guild members, who don't send spam and do pay their bills, would be good customers.

    It would cost the web site owners nothing, or almost nothing, and they'd get benefits, so most would join. With most of the web sites being members, service companies such as hosting companies, designers, ans payment processors would want to be a part of it in order to market to the member web sites.

    One item in the professional ethics would have been using the appropriate machine-readable label that makes it easy for parents to control access to such sites.

    I kick myself for bailing out on that because it likely would have made me rich. Membership might have saved webmasters 10% or more on their expenses vs non-members, so the club ownership (me) could have drawn off fees, advertising to member webmasters, or other revenue equal to 0.1% - 1% of the members expenses no problem. That's revenue for the club (me) equal to say 0.5% of the entire online adult industry. That industry is billions of dollars per year. Even 0.1% would be millions of dollars every year. I had it lined up, then got scared and ran away when big wigs I was working with starting talking about a million dollars here, a million dollars there.

  22. Not now, not ever by slazzy · · Score: 1

    I won't buy domains where they can change the fee from $9 per year to $9 thousand per year just for fun. With com/net/org and some other there are regulations in place to protect the pricing.

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  23. .CON by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now that is a gTLD which we will all love

  24. Name change by phalse+phace · · Score: 1

    Kim Dotcom going to have to update his name for 2019

    1. Re:Name change by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was about to post a list of witty and funny jokes on Kim Dot[gtld]s, but I began looking at the list of them and HOLY FUCK the number of them.
      And the number registered by this Donuts company. 240+ alone. LMAO they are going to be seriously upset on their poor investment.

      Consolation names:
      Kim Dotcool
      Kim Dotcheap
      Kim Dotcancerresearch
      Kim Dotmeme
      Kim Dotsucks.
      That is all.

  25. oblig. by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

    Yo dawg, I heard you like dots in your slashdot, so I got a slashdot dot so you can dot your slashdot when your slash dotting!

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  26. Are you a ninja? by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

    I have my .ninja domain...

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  27. Also, Fuck Google's landrush by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

    Some gTLDs were commonly used internally to organizations. Included are things like .test, .dev, etc. Well, Google bought .dev. I'm sure there are other examples.

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  28. Get your email at .jobby by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    email@bigfat.jobby

  29. so few TLD: That's only true for the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most other country are far more flexible. We have in addition the country own TLD, zone TLD (think .eu) and some of the longer tld are picking up (I keep seeing travelagency or similar domain being used).

  30. Re:ICANN can go **** themselves by lamber45 · · Score: 2

    Yes, there's a whole RFC series for Unicode labels in domain names, including advice to registrars for how to mitigate that problem. The ".com" domain itself is managed by Verisign, and they have a policy to address exactly that problem.