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China Hacked HPE, IBM and Then Attacked Clients, Report Finds (reuters.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Reuters: Hackers working on behalf of China's Ministry of State Security breached the networks of Hewlett Packard Enterprise and IBM, then used the access to hack into their clients' computers, according to five sources familiar with the attacks. The attacks were part of a Chinese campaign known as Cloudhopper, which the United States and Britain on Thursday said infected technology service providers in order to steal secrets from their clients. While cybersecurity firms and government agencies have issued multiple warnings about the Cloudhopper threat since 2017, they have not disclosed the identity of technology companies whose networks were compromised. IBM said it had no evidence that sensitive corporate data had been compromised. HPE said it could not comment on the Cloudhopper campaign.

Cloudhopper targeted managed service providers (MSPs) to access client networks and steal corporate secrets from companies around the globe, according to a U.S. federal indictment of two Chinese nationals unsealed on Thursday. Prosecutors did not identify any of the MSPs that were breached. Cloudhopper, which has been targeting technology services providers for several years, infiltrated the networks of HPE and IBM multiple times in breaches that lasted for weeks and months. Reuters was unable to confirm the names of other breached technology firms or identify any affected clients.
Both IBM and HPE provided statements but declined to comment on the specific claims made by the sources. "The security of HPE customer data is our top priority," HPE said. "We are unable to comment on the specific details described in the indictment, but HPE's managed services provider business moved to DXC Technology in connection with HPE's divestiture of its Enterprise Services business in 2017."

"IBM has taken extensive counter measures worldwide as part of its continuous efforts to protect itself and its clients against constantly evolving threats," the company said in an emailed statement. "We take responsible stewardship of client data very seriously and have no evidence that sensitive IBM or client data has been compromised."

59 comments

  1. You can't trust communists by WCMI92 · · Score: 0, Troll

    To not be evil. Because that is what they are. They will do anything to get the advantage.

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    Corporatism != Free Market
    1. Re: You can't trust communists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      Some goes for all the Antifa fucks and most Democunts.

    2. Re: You can't trust communists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      You're being redundant - Antifa and most Democrats are Communists.

    3. Re:You can't trust communists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, Lord knows capitalists won't "do anything to get the advantage"

      No true capitalist, anyway

    4. Re: You can't trust communists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everyone already knows education is the enemy of the Republican inbred, you don't have to act it out for us.

    5. Re:You can't trust communists by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      How did the US/UK espionage find this out, oh, they noticed the extra traffic whilst they were doing the exact same thing and you just know that is true. How did they track it in China, well, of course because they were hacking servers in China. It's not like they can reach for the global treaty to block these attacks and blocks global propaganda services, why because the US don't want them because they want to hack and propagandise the entire rest of the planet, to serve US citizens, absolutely not, to serve infinite greed and ego, of the psychopathic pin heads at the top.

      The story should read, How the US hacked China, to show how China hacks the US to find out how the US hacks China, to publicly demonstrate why treaties are required and for me to condemn the US government as a pack of lying cunts for blocking those cyber treaties. Stop fucking with the internet you fucking dick brains and oh yeah and merry fucking Christmas.

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      Chaos - everything, everywhere, everywhen
    6. Re: You can't trust communists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are twice as evil as Nazis. Does that make them mad men?

    7. Re:You can't trust communists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nap time.

    8. Re: You can't trust communists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Repeating something doesn't make it true, you Leftist POS.

    9. Re:You can't trust communists by gtall · · Score: 2

      Well, I fine upstanding nation like China will surely abide by any treaty you think you have signed with it.

  2. NUKE CHINA, TRUMP! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Donald you know you want to, and it's the ULTIMATE distraction from your failing trade war or the Mueller investigation or any of that stuff... NUKE CHINA! If you don't you're just a pussy like Obama, except you golf 4x more.

    1. Re: NUKE CHINA, TRUMP! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you can not afford his speaking fees. Well, you at least, cannot afford them

  3. Unforgivable by neilo_1701D · · Score: 2

    This is unforgivable, in terms of IBM and HPE.

    They stored client details in a manner that hacked credentials could access them? IBM and HPE could be up for millions, if not billions, in damages here. Client details should be amongst the most secure credentials they have. As a senior technical consultant, my credentials at my clients are usually second only to their system administrators. If they leaked out, it would be catastrophic!

    Would not want to be at HPE or IBM right about now...

    1. Re:Unforgivable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Read the TOS. There will be no damages.

    2. Re: Unforgivable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I wouldn't want to work at HPE / DXC anyways. Nastiest vendor I've ever met.

      Alligator eats alligator. It's like the swamp version of a turducken.

    3. Re: Unforgivable by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      How much would you have to be paid to sell your credentials?

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      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    4. Re: Unforgivable by Archtech · · Score: 2

      I wouldn't want to work at HPE / DXC anyways. Nastiest vendor I've ever met.

      So sad. For most of its long life, Hewlett-Packard was the epitome of honesty and straight dealing.

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      I am sure that there are many other solipsists out there.
  4. Why bother hacking? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    When a large chunk of IBM is based in China? They donâ(TM)t need backdoors. They have the keys to the front door because they were hired to build it....

  5. How is this not an act of war? by schwit1 · · Score: 1, Interesting

    At what point does the US say 'enough', and punches back twice as hard?

    1. Re:How is this not an act of war? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except for all we know, this could have been the US hacking the companies and syphoning off the data.

      Attributing hacks to anybody is unreliable..

    2. Re:How is this not an act of war? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong. We actually have them caught red handed. You don't know shit about this, that's true.

    3. Re:How is this not an act of war? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jeezuz, you think the NSA isn't trying their best to hack into Chinese networks every minute of the day?
      The US government has decided it wants to create a narrative, so here we are being inundated with Chinese/Russian hack stories every hour on the hour.
      My guess is that this is all leading up to something like Trump declaring that the US is going to default on all Chinese and Russian held bonds.
      God knows you can never repay your debt so you need a nice reason to shaft your creditors.

    4. Re: How is this not an act of war? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the NSA is not even pretending to hide it anymore. They have their own App Store now with pixel analyzers presentation designers, collage apps (for the non-technically inclined) and they have a kan bam board with all their next releases planned

    5. Re:How is this not an act of war? by Guybrush_T · · Score: 1

      First, you would need to prove this is an attack by the state, not by some random hacker group.

      I'm still trying to find who claims this is coming from China and see what exactly they are talking about. So far ... I couldn't find anything.

    6. Re:How is this not an act of war? by Guybrush_T · · Score: 3, Informative

      So this seems to be the origin : https://www.pwc.co.uk/cyber-security/pdf/cloud-hopper-report-final-v4.pdf

      Mentioning a probably-China-based "APT10" group, based on the time of most attacks.

      "CloudHopper" is the codename PwC gave to the APT10 attack, not a secret service code name.

    7. Re: How is this not an act of war? by The+Evil+Atheist · · Score: 2

      I suppose keyboard warriors like you are hard men. Oh wait, cunts like you just keep complaining about SJWs and acting worse than them.

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      Those who do not learn from commit history are doomed to regress it.
    8. Re:How is this not an act of war? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Comes from the desk-shots from the webcams of hacked laptops at the Chinese ministry offices. Just like here, the big-wigs get their secretaries to print out the emails for them while they play Freecell.

    9. Re:How is this not an act of war? by gtall · · Score: 1

      As soon as asshole leaves office and Putin has not cock-holster running the U.S.

    10. Re:How is this not an act of war? by Archtech · · Score: 1

      Wrong. We actually have them caught red handed. You don't know shit about this, that's true.

      Please give concrete evidence of those statements.

      Otherwise we shall have to conclude that you are making them up and know nothing.

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      I am sure that there are many other solipsists out there.
    11. Re: How is this not an act of war? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The USA doesn't have nationalized mega corporations to funnel the intelligence to for purposes of industrial espionage. It's one thing to hack in case of extenuating circumstances, it's another to hack and put that intelligence into action during peace times.

  6. But but but the US did this in the 19th century! by MikeRT · · Score: 1

    The US Secret Service was the main federal law enforcement and intel agency until the rise of organized crime and J Edgar got momentum. I defy anyone to show evidence that the federal government had the Secret Service running around Europe breaking into star inventors' offices and pilfering their secrets.

    If they did, and were caught, the empires of Europe would have declared war on us. It is one thing to steal ideas at the patent office. This is an act of aggression.

  7. So no evidence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So no evidence? more fake news?

  8. Re: You're confusing Google with Communists now. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh my little retarded shit for brain, Melania cost nothing at all. And you cannot even fathom it.

  9. Re: You're confusing Google with Communists now. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, let us see. Depends. Is her ear insanely cute? Is her neck long and ridiculously elegant? Are her lips as soft as a bunnies fur and red as Penceâ(TM)s blood? Tough choice

  10. Psy-ops by UK - US Deep State Actors .. by najajomo · · Score: 1

    Hackers working on behalf of China's Ministry of State Security breached the networks of Hewlett Packard Enterprise and IBM, then used the access to hack into their clients' computers, according to five sources familiar with the attacks.”

    The Truth About Cambridge Analytica-SCL: Psy-ops by UK-US Deep State Actors

    Its ‘hard sell’ was a demonstration of how the UK government could use a sophisticated media campaign of mass deception to fool the British people into the thinking an accident at a chemical plant had occurred and threatened central London.”

    1. Re: Psy-ops by UK - US Deep State Actors .. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your on Slashdot, you can't get away with posting links from one of the internet's biggest fake news sites without getting called out for it

    2. Re: Psy-ops by UK - US Deep State Actors .. by najajomo · · Score: 2

      Cambridge Analytica is dead – but its obscure network is alive and well “The company’s executives have formed a web of linked companies, suggesting its work will continue”

      Cambridge Analytica and SCL: How I peered inside the propaganda machine

      Cambridge Analytica staff set up new firm

      “we must look first at Cambridge Analytica, LLC .. is a Delaware Limited Liability Company that was formed in June of 2014 .. the larger the database Cambridge controls, along with its ability to demonstrate the value proposition for its analytical tools, the greater the likelihood Cambridge will be retained by political entities.”

  11. Re: You're confusing Google with Communists now. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Half? Putin only takes half? I thought that was Saudi Arabia

  12. Cloudhopper, hopper? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cloudhopper sounds *English* (hopper), and designed to read well in the press. Which suggests its not a real thing for a Chinese code name.

    Code names are to obscure not explain. They're to encode not make good MEMEs.

    Story likely false.

    1. Re:Cloudhopper, hopper? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      The NSA had a CLOUDBURST, CLOUDCOVER, CLOUDCOVER II, HOPPER (work in the USA, by contractors)
      CLOUDFUNNEL (US work done in the UK).

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      Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
  13. Re: You're confusing Google with Communists now. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Putin gets half, Erdogan gets half, and Mohammed Bin Sultan gets half. Three halves, like any fair and stable Trump pyramid deal. Melania's cut comes out of Putin's cut, Trump won't have anything left when it's over.
       

  14. Re: You're confusing Google with Communists now. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I failed math. Would that explain this logic?

  15. Extremely misleading by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is no proof that this was from China. Remember how easy it is to fake IP addresses! Many of our people are now saying that libtards seem to want to move from blaming the Russia for everything now to blaming the China for our own troubles. Sad!

  16. With journalistic integrity like this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "Reuters was unable to confirm the names of other breached technology firms or identify any affected clients. "

    "The sources, who were not authorized to comment on confidential information gleaned from investigations into the hacks"....

    I now announce from my basement that I have found the cure for all cancers but I can't tell you how or give you any proofs.

  17. IBM is a Chinese company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IBM is a Chinese company. I was working there in 2007 when part of the DOD decided to outsource Exchange to IBM. They though better of it and IBM was not allowed to touch any DOD Exchange clusters. IBM still got paid and I still had a job doing nothing.

  18. IBM & HPE Enterprise Grade Cybersecurity Servi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have these companies considered using IBM Cybersecurity Services or HPE Server Infrastructure Security Solutions?

    Based on what I am reading, these products are designed to stop cyberattacks by being the "strongest defense."

  19. Because without hacking... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... there would be no empty scarewords in the headline. They'd have to come up with actual content to share.

    Actual content is death on clickbait. So empty scarewords it is. Hacking!

  20. Why do we even route packets from China? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you're not hosting a specific task related to China, don't allow the traffic. I've blocked China, Russia, Poland, Ukraine etc. because what I do requires no contribution outside the domestic market. If I want something to work in China, I'll host it in China.

  21. CHINA & SPECTRUM's modems... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I DISCOVERED MODEMS CHINA MAKES EVEN YOUR ISP CAN'T GET INTO FOR DNS CHANGE (& China can) https://slashdot.org/comments....

    APK

    P.S.=> From L1->L2->NOC @ spectrum COULD NOT GET INTO THEIR OWN DISTRIBUTED MODEMS (rebranded as "Spectrum" but REALLY a CHINESE TECHNICOLOR MODEM)... apk