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Scientists Drill Into 3,500 Feet of Ice To Reach a Mysterious Antarctic Lake (gizmodo.com)

Late last week, a team of about 50 scientists, drillers, and support staff successfully punched through nearly 4,000 feet of ice to access an Antarctic subglacial lake for just the second time in human history. From a report: On Friday, the Subglacial Antarctic Lakes Scientific Access (SALSA) team announced they'd reached Lake Mercer after melting their way through an enormous frozen river with a high-pressure, hot-water drill. The multi-year effort to tap into the subglacial lake -- one of approximately 400 scientists have detected across Antarctica -- offers a rare opportunity to study the biology and chemistry of the most isolated ecosystems on Earth. The only other subglacial lake humans have drilled into -- nearby Lake Whillans, sampled in 2013 -- demonstrated that these extreme environments can play host to diverse microbial life. Naturally, scientists are stoked to see what they'll find lurking in Lake Mercer's icy waters. "We don't know what we'll find," John Priscu, a biogeochemist at Montana State University and chief scientist for SALSA, told Earther via satellite phone from the SALSA drill camp on the Whillans Ice Plain. "We're just learning, it's only the second time that this has been done."

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  1. Plenty to explore right here! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good to see a refreshing change to the usual space "exploration" stories.

    1. Re: Plenty to explore right here! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Release the hounds

    2. Re: Plenty to explore right here! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Follow the hot air

    3. Re: Plenty to explore right here! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You got that right, but don't say I didn't warn y'all motha fuckahz.

      I have on good authority that there is a "Thing" down there and it does NOT like the heat. I wouldn't fuck with it.

      Also don't be surprised if you find a queen alien down there, just ready to lay some more eggs and shit when she thaws out.

    4. Re: Plenty to explore right here! by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      I have no fear of either of those things... Cthulhu will save us from them!

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    5. Re: Plenty to explore right here! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you think about it, the scientists could have saved a lot of time instead of a "multi-year effort" when they simply could have borrowed a Predator's spaceship and used the laser to burn straight through the ice in a seconds or less.

    6. Re: Plenty to explore right here! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hear that next, those scientists plan to drill 1 km deep into the layers of an IT janitor to find out what is in there. They have no idea right now what it might contain although it is obvious to me that it has to be shit.

    7. Re: Plenty to explore right here! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      It is actually 2.5km. Since the mountain is 5km wide, they want to find out what is actually in the middle of the mountain.

      ref:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      Billy is a typical 3 miles wide mountain who poses for postcards, living with his wife Ethel, a tree, between the cities of Rosamund and Gorman, California. The main features on his mountainous face are two large caves, resembling eyes, and a cliff for a jaw, which moves up and down when he talks, puffing up dust and boulders.

    8. Re: Plenty to explore right here! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fools! That ice barrier was also the only thing keeping the damn Megalodon trapped, you bunch of clueless bastards. Now I'm going to have to punch it in the jaw with my bare fist and then stab it in the eye with a harpoon to save all the hot Asian girls in bikinis. And here they said that I was the one that was crazy, ha!

    9. Re: Plenty to explore right here! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is an effort to contaminate and kill whatever may live in this underground lake.

    10. Re:Plenty to explore right here! by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      Good to see a refreshing change to the usual space "exploration" stories.

      Actually, in a way it is a space story, which is even more refreshing. Researchers are intensely curious about what might be under the ice on Europa and Enceladus. Ice-boring robots will be tested in Antarctica first.

    11. Re: Plenty to explore right here! by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      This is an effort to contaminate and kill whatever may live in this underground lake.

      Avoiding contamination is the whole reason this effort has taken so long.

    12. Re: Plenty to explore right here! by murdocj · · Score: 1

      Love your tagline. Doesn't have anything to do with the Nazis though.

  2. System upgrade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Maybe it's time for slashdot to start using the metric system...

    1. Re:System upgrade by hey! · · Score: 2, Informative

      Oh, like "1.0688 kilometers" is any rounder than "3500 feet".

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    2. Re: System upgrade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every. Single. Word. Of this article is refreshingly dumb dumb dum dumb

    3. Re:System upgrade by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      After four days of troubleshooting components that sustained wear and tear from sitting through two winters on ice, the Drill Team began drilling the main borehole on the evening of December 23rd and reached the lake faster than expected at 10:30pm on December 26th with a borehole depth of 1084 meters.

      https://salsa-antarctica.org/2018/12/28/3578/

      Why would scientists want to "round up" numbers? They dug to a depth of 1084 metres and that's all there is to it.

      Saying "3500 feet" is the mistake here, because that's 1066.8 metres which is a difference of 17.2 metres vs what really happened.

      Also, bonus points if any of those scientist is an Amiga user.

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    4. Re:System upgrade by skoskav · · Score: 1
      From the article's source:

      the Drill Team began drilling the main borehole on the evening of December 23rd and reached the lake faster than expected at 10:30pm on December 26th with a borehole depth of 1084 meters.

      Scientists and international projects tend to use SI units. Both the international foot and US foot are used in the US depending on state and task, but they're both defined in meters. So like you and the article demonstrated, you lose accuracy by sloppily converting it back and forth.

    5. Re:System upgrade by Gabest · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Could be it was 1 km, but they rounded it up to be 3500 feet.

    6. Re:System upgrade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to https://salsa-antarctica.org/2018/12/28/3578/ they drilled 1084 meters deep hole. New usually would round that to 1100 m or 1080 m. In the same way they rounded 3556,43 ft in 3500 ft.

    7. Re:System upgrade by hey! · · Score: 1

      Dude, you would kill at parties, if you got invited to any.

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    8. Re:System upgrade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the same way they rounded 3556,43 ft in 3500 ft.

      Not that you would give a fuck, but feet are never expressed in decimal unless you don't understand how it works.

    9. Re:System upgrade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Never mind the sig fig attrocity.

    10. Re:System upgrade by war4peace · · Score: 1

      What does one have anything to do with the other?
      Generalizing like that is stupid.

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  3. Re: Not possible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would like to thank everyone for being silent during those soeeches. Your fidgeting was acceptable since it did not make any noise that would have distracted my idiot ears from listening All the sound and fury, while understanding nothing.

  4. Drill Into 3,500 Feet of Ice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Does that hurt? Nah, they're frozen.

    1. Re: Drill Into 3,500 Feet of Ice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Push the button frank

  5. Precautions by PuddleBoy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "A secondary borehole that acts as a well, its water back-pumped into the main hole after being filtered and sterilized, was started a night earlier, Priscu told Earther"

    I'm glad they had the foresight to sterilize the water that would ultimately mix with the lake. Not doing so would have been just plain sad and stupid. (and counterproductive, if the goal was really to survey what was down there and *only* what was down there.)

    1. Re:Precautions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yes, but even that is going to cause contamination. From what I recall on the prior lake they did this to, the water down there had a different isotopic mix from current surface water. And they will be changing that at least a bit by pumping in cleaned surface water.

    2. Re:Precautions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All it takes is one bacteria, one. Does anyone really believe the water they are pumping in is completely sterile? Give it 50 years, the lake is screwed.

    3. Re:Precautions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because absolutely NO bacterica has gotten down there during the time it's existed... jesus fucking wept.

      How stupid are you?

      They just need to make sure they aren't dumping massive amounts of it.

    4. Re:Precautions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did they just steralize the hole by using hot/boiling water, or did the hot water just boil everything to death once they reached it?

      Nothing to see here anymore, move along.....We were on the age of discovery only to cause extinction in less than a minute by the cold to hot water climate change......

    5. Re:Precautions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How effin stupid are you is the question? They drilled thru thousands of feet of solid ice and opened something that had been sealed for centuries. Do you really think bacteria can drill thru ice. Jesus /. has become a bunch of morons.

    6. Re:Precautions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They don't drill - no. How insightful of you to realise that.

      My front door's closed and locked... how could bacteria possibly get in.

      It's only takes one bacteria... according to you. Go read your comment.

      You're a fucking idiot. There are no truly hermetically sealed environments outside of a lab - let alone ones that last millions of years.

      You fucking imbecile.

  6. First one was Lake Vostok by mapkinase · · Score: 4, Informative

    I remember I had really high hopes only to be utterly disappointed. There was no real insight into prokaryotic science from the effects of such long ecosystem separation.

    I again have really high hopes with this one. Mercer Lake does not even have a bloody Wiki page. [RAGE].

    I predict that I will be utterly disappointed.

    Lake Vostok isolation time:

    The overlying ice provides a continuous paleoclimatic record of 400,000 years, although the lake water itself may have been isolated for 15[7][8] to 25 million years

    Mercer Lake information:

    Lake Mercer was first detected via satellite more than a decade ago, but it's never been explored by humans. The subglacial lake measures about 62 square miles (160 square kilometers ) in size, which is over twice the size of Manhattan. But it's not very deep—just 30 to 50 feet (10 to 15 meters) at its deepest points.

    Lake Vostok is much larger:

    Measuring 250 km (160 mi) long by 50 km (30 mi) wide at its widest point[1], it covers an area of 12,500 km2 (4,830 sq mi) making it the 16th largest lake by surface area. With an average depth of 432 m (1,417 ft), it has an estimated volume of 5,400 km3 (1,300 cu mi).[2] making it the 6th largest lake by volume.

    Good luck, colleagues.

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    1. Re:First one was Lake Vostok by 110010001000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't get it. What ecosystem separation? The lake is refilled "regularly" and they are interconnected with other streams and lakes aren't they? According to the https://salsa-antarctica.org/s... site it says Lake Vostok is only 40,000 years and Mercer is much lower in water retention time.

    2. Re: First one was Lake Vostok by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What I'm interested in is that they found strains of living Hydrogenophilaceae in Lake Vostok--will they find that here too?

      Because they claim it must be proof of geothermal systems allowing it to survive there. But it may have just been caused by all their dicking around with pumping steam and things--they messed up the first hole and a bunch of kerosene got in it, etc.

      So I'm curious if they did a much cleaner drill this time around.

  7. If only Michael Crichton were still alive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This would be the starting point for another novel. You know it would.

    1. Re:If only Michael Crichton were still alive by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Why are you unable to spell H.P. Lovecraft?

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  8. I've heard this before by Nidi62 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sounds like the plot of a Syfy movie. Scientists dig a hole, unleash a long-dormant virus that kills half of humanity until Tara Reid comes in and saves the day while saying a bunch of really long and meaningless but technical sounding words that she can barely pronounce.

    And then a shark flies in from behind and is about to eat her when the screen cuts to black.

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    1. Re:I've heard this before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In fact, this pretty much the plot of several Dr Who episodes. The drill workers are always superstitious "red shirts".

    2. Re:I've heard this before by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Well my immediate thought was not so much killer sharks as it was another movie. Remember this one, they find something under the ice in Antarctica, a bunch of scientists go there to check it out and start drilling. A day later it's magically finished despite them not doing the drilling. Then aliens and predators have a fight and all the scientists die.

    3. Re: I've heard this before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Neither viruses nor flying sharks are a match for Tara Reid's cookie-nipples.

    4. Re:I've heard this before by meglon · · Score: 1

      Depends on their budget... now we have to worry about finding Godzilla too. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3...

      ....or should that be "again... and again.... and again?"

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    5. Re:I've heard this before by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      And then a shark flies in from behind and is about to eat her when the screen cuts to black.
      That is because the other shark, or was it a reptile ... got the camera man.

      I wonder how they managed to get it into the cinema, though ... perhaps via a cloud?

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  9. Headline should be ' violated and contaminated' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Should read "Scientists violated and contaminated a the last remaining pristine wilderness ecosystem untouched by the ravages of modern civilization."

    That's how it would read if it was anything other than scientists, such as an oil exploration company searching for oil.

    1. Re:Headline should be ' violated and contaminated' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Compare the article side by side with on of an oil company exploring in Alaska or off the coast of California.

      Compare the use of keywords, adjectives and imagery in the two articles.

      Count positive words in an article vs negative words - you will see more negative words used when the article is about something the reporter/news paper disagrees with.

      A simple exercise I did back in 8th grade.

  10. These bastards are going to... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...dig up Megatron.

  11. Don't defrost the Thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You'll really regret it....

  12. Well whoop-tee-do! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ain't they something! Mother pin a rose on me!

  13. Ahh yes by Dunbal · · Score: 2

    The Great Mystery! Spoiler - they will find exactly what they found in the other lake 13km away, give or take a few changes so inconsequential that about only 30 people on the planet will care about them and 1 person will be excited about them.

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    1. Re:Ahh yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't you watch documentaries (er..science fiction movies) like The Thing or Aliens vs Predator. There are all kinds of Earth changing consequences to drilling in Antarctica! Have an imagination.

    2. Re: Ahh yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, it's all I've got!

  14. Re: Headline should be ' violated and contaminated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Miss Mash gonna delete ur flamebait post dooshbag

  15. greedy humans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They won't tell us what is really down there anyways. Any real life changing paradigm discoveries will be marked as "top secret" due to "national security".

  16. Re:Not possible by hey! · · Score: 3, Informative

    To my knowledge, no mainstream model has ever predicted that the South Pole would be ice free in our lifetimes. Even in scenarios where the Antarctic Ice Sheet collapses, there's still going to be snow and ice at the South Pole, where summer highs are around -26C.

    As for the Arctic, climate change there a bit like changing the odds on a lottery from one in million to one in ten. It will still take you a few years to hit the jackpot, but sooner or later you will. The first time sea ice drops below the million square km benchmark we'll be looking at an extreme weather event (hitting the lottery) on top of a long term climate trend (raising the lottery payoff odds). Nobody can say when that will happen, but the odds are unquestionably shifting. IPCC "middle of the road" models predict the first such event will likely come in the 2040s, but that's a statistical estimate. Even after we have our first "ice free" (< 10^6 km^2) year, that doesn't mean every year or even most years will be ice free, because that first year is going to be an outlier.

    Don't be fooled by people who cherry pick a prior outlier like 2007 and say "Sea ice hasn't declined in 10 years!", or who conflate antarctic winter sea ice trends with arctic summer sea ice. The polar regions are changing.

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  17. must be a surfer in the mix by jm007 · · Score: 2

    "...scientists are stoked..."

    bitchin' bro!! check out this sample

    gnarly!!!

  18. How much contamination by SuperKendall · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Lake Mercer is 64 miles wide, more than 30 feet deep. I think whatever small amount of sterilized water (melted from antarctic ice mind!) makes it in from the borehole is not going to have much of an effect...

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    1. Re:How much contamination by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      The flat-earth lobby has opposed these Antarctic lake boring projects for years, because in their eyes human curiosity is akin to how we view genocide. Actual genocide is something they favor, because "Team Rainbow 6" considers humanity to be an infection that should be killed off to preserve the sacredness of Nature (which they don't consider us to be a part of).

    2. Re:How much contamination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're less convincing than a comic book, kid.

    3. Re:How much contamination by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      I don't know man, have you seen the movie "Life"? It doesn't take much more than a single organism to murder a whole lot of scientists and take over a planet.

    4. Re:How much contamination by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

      I don't know man, have you seen the movie "Life"?

      Those Hollyweird kooks - making a movie about breakfast cereal.

      It would have been better if they made "Captain Crunch, the Early Years".

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    5. Re:How much contamination by Xest · · Score: 2

      That's not how it works, it only takes one single bacterium from outside the lake, to make it into the lake, and start multiplying over a period of time that just happens to be capable of killing off the primitive life in the lake to prevent us ever really discovering what was down there.

      This isn't a dilution thing where the danger is the risk of some small amount of chemical entering the lake that's diluted so much that it doesn't matter, life can replicate, grow, and spread, and if something gets in that ends up thriving in that environment because it's more evolved and can out compete the primitive species in the environment then it's potentially game over for knowing what was native to this primitive environment and what wasn't.

    6. Re:How much contamination by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      That's not how it works, it only takes one single bacterium from outside the lake

      The water is sterilized. That is not the issue under discussion. What I responded to was:

      the water down there had a different isotopic mix from current surface water.

      The issue was potentially affecting THAT, which you can plainly see the lake has way too large a volume to be affected in any meaningful way.

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    7. Re:How much contamination by meglon · · Score: 1

      Yeh, but this is in the Antarctic not space. As long as we can bring back Kurt Russell for the second sequel, we'll be ok.

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    8. Re:How much contamination by Xest · · Score: 1

      Ah, apologies, thwarted by Slashdot's shitty threading system where the AC post in the middle was hidden :)

    9. Re:How much contamination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To the idiot moderator: If you don't understand the comment, don't moderate. Look up what the inventor of chess allegedly asked for as a reward. To few people understand the exponential function and its application to growth scenarios.

    10. Re: How much contamination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sam - The Story of a Broken Toucan.

    11. Re: How much contamination by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Sam - The Story of a Broken Toucan.

      Bollywood is making their own version, as they believe toucan play that game.

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  19. Re:Not possible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    /sigh....found the trumpflake ...

    Not that it's hard to do or even particularly challenging. All you do is simply look for the most inane vomit of ignorance you can find, and ZAMMO! There's your trumptard.

  20. Re:Not possible by skoskav · · Score: 0
    Not sure where you're getting that distorted claim from. In 2007 he referenced a study that supposedly warned that the Arctic could be ice-free during summer by 2014:

    Last September 21, as the Northern Hemisphere tilted away from the sun, scientists reported with unprecedented distress that the North Polar ice cap is “falling off a cliff.” One study estimated that it could be completely gone during summer in less than 22 years. Another new study, to be presented by U.S. Navy researchers later this week, warns it could happen in as little as 7 years.

    I'm don't know where he got that study from, but it's certainly possible for some study to reach that conclusion by extrapolating from known data if trends had held up. What studies Al Gore cherry-picks does not have to represent the state of scientific consensus, but he's right in that the Arctic ice is shrinking at a considerable rate.

  21. Re: Headline should be ' violated and contaminated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your mom isn't a pristine untapped environment dude

  22. 1 in 400 chance of Cthulhu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Each time they drill into one of these hidden ancient lakes it's a 1 in 400 chance of unleashing Cthulhu. Is it worth it? Is it?

  23. Fake news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm pretty sure no self-respecting scientist is going to be drilling in feetses these days.

    1. Re:Fake news by meglon · · Score: 1
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  24. Re: Headline should be ' violated and contaminated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, look at the negativity in articles about BP drilling in the gulf versus this article about science exploration. The BP gulf occurrence (not fiasco) provided the scientific community with valuable data (on sociopathy and psychopathy) and the way marine life responded (not killed) to external stimuli (not toxic oil) of decomposed organic matter. Another example: count the negative words versus positive in any article about Jefferey Dalmer and compare the same ratio of such words in articles about Iron Chef, and youâ(TM)ll see the media bias so rampant and obvious. We analyzed articles this way in my 7th grade creationism class in the ozarks. Trust me. Iâ(TM)ve earned our companyâ(TM)s Dunning-Kruger employee of the year plaque 6 years in a row. Trust me, comrades, I mean slashdotians. (By the way, thereâ(TM)s no truth to the rumor that a 4th coup attempt against Putin this year has his trolls on edge. )

  25. Bottle it and sell it by mnemotronic · · Score: 1

    Pure Antarctic Mercer Lake water from the dawn of time. Hand selected for your quaffication pleasure. Now in handy non-recyclable plastic bottles with luxurious seal skin covers made from the pelts of the rare Iliamna Lake freshwater seal. Be the first in your privilege context to possess and sample this rare delicacy. Only one bottle will be sold in each zip code, guaranteeing exclusivity to those discerning few who know water when they see it.

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  26. Re:Not possible by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

    To my knowledge, no mainstream model has ever predicted that the South Pole would be ice free in our lifetimes.
    If the antarctic ice melts (or slides into the ocean) during my remaining lifetime (30 - 50 years, give or take): posts by idiots on /. will be the least of our problems. East and west coast of the US (the centers of internet, e-comerce etc.) won't exist any longer. Basically 90% of what is inhabitated at the moment by people will be under the sea.

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  27. Re:Fixed: "Random woman fights prejudice to drill. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    God there's some sad fucks on /. these days...

  28. Scientists attack Antarctica! by Daralantan · · Score: 1

    I can't wait to see Antarctica's counter attack.

    I guess it's interesting to possibly find something out from this ancient lake. And I realize this is different science. But it seems odd to be talking about global warming and ice melting, then we go drill deep into Antarctica with a hot water drill. I understand it's barely anything. It still just kind of makes me go: "Huh," for a second when I read it.

    I'd hope we could find something interesting. But from another comment on here, it sounds like we found nothing interesting in a similar situation before.

  29. Re: Not possible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do not tell me about sea lice, they are the worst!

  30. When Russia did it ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When Russia did it they where reckless and unrespectful of the pristine ecosystem. Now the US does it and it is some kind of milestone for humanity?
    Get lost ...

  31. Re:Not possible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    90% of people live below 200 feet above sea level? I never realized that. Scary!

  32. Re:Not possible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is no more ice on either poles, Al Gore said they would be ice free by 2006.

    Al Gore said there would be no Arctic sea ice by 2014 and he was wrong. No need to make up false stuff.

    Oh, I forgot, when evidence of AGW not happening as proclaimed comes around its weather not climate. Does that excuse hold here?

    What evidence? Al Gore being wrong isn't evidence.