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China Gets on the Bandwagon To Provide Global Satellite Internet (qz.com)
Over the weekend, China launched a satellite into low-earth orbit, the first step of a plan to provide global satellite internet to people who still don't have reliable access. From a report: Nearly 3.8 billion people are unconnected to the internet, and women and rural poor are particularly affected. The satellite, called Hongyun-1, took off at China's national launching site Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center on Saturday (Dec. 22). Hongyun-1, or "rainbow cloud," is the first of 156 satellites of the same name developed by state-owned spacecraft maker China Aerospace Science and Industry Corporation (CASIC). CASIC intends to launch all the Hongyun satellites by around 2022 to form a constellation that will improve internet access in remote parts of China, and eventually in developing countries, a plan first announced in 2016. Most of the satellites will operate 1,000 kilometers (620 miles) above the earth, far lower than satellites are typically placed. The project is "moving the internet currently on the ground into the sky," said Hou Xiufeng, a spokesperson for CASIC, "It's China's first true low-orbit communication satellite... The launch will greatly boost commercial space."
Hard fucking pass.
Rural America will finally be able to get internet!
will there be any room left ?
Should we just plan on building a ring of these around the Earth?
Unlike anywhere in China, where the internet isn't allowed because Han Chinese are too stupid to handle freedom.
They will just start running into each other. Survival of the fittest.
155 more by 2022.
Almost 1/week, I believe that.
Propaganda needs to be plausible, this isn't.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
You're a moron.
I look forward to well-reasoned arguments that are totally not Sinophobic and dog whistle racism, just like all the other threads that mention China.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
Will the great firewall be built in, or will traffic have to be routed via a ground station? God forbid users be able to communicate directly with one another via the network.
Look at it this way - right now there are more than 52,000 merchant ships sailing the seas. Have we run out of space in the ocean? And then add in the fact that space is 3d, so adding in vertical stacks, the number of satellites that can be safely fit in LEO is huge. Or for harder numbers, the earth has a surface area of 510 million km^2. Figure 1 km^2 area per satellite, and 1 km between orbital levels, and LEO orbits from say 600 km to 1000 km, and you get 204 billion satellites.
I would wager on Space X being up and running first with their Starlink service.
They just want to make sure everyone is under total surveillance. China is a disgusting country that fears the flow of information and does everthing possible to stop it. The spiritual opposite of Internet and freedom.
Nobody wants any kind of service from these foul commie slopes.
The light in the Earth's shadow can't change because the moon is passing through it. So how does the lunar eclipse start out black, and end red?
Lunar eclipse time lapse
Next eclipse: January 20 2019
Nat Geo: Why is eclipse red?
For this reason, God sends them a powerful delusion(operation of wandering)(planet) so that they will believe the lie.
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Dog Whistle definition:
I don't like your argument, but can't find a factual way to dispute it. My only methods to dispute it make me look like a total dumbass dipshit. Therefore, I will call your argument a "dog whistle" for racism. Since your argument wasn't racist either all I can do is claim your argument is "secretly racist".
This is how calling someone "articulate" became an anti-black racist "dog whistle". Not making this up, someone got in trouble for describing a black man as articulate. I'm assuming the accuser assumed black men can't be articulate, which makes you wonder who was the real racist in the dispute.
He who controls the spice controls the universe.
Controlling and providing internet access is pretty much the same thing ... the biggest ad network and spying mechanism on the planet.
Why am I not surprised by this? Everybody wants internet users to be beholden to them and to have access to their data.
Chinaman with pre-school English detected
You've mistaken "FEEdom" for freedom. There is no freedom in stupid america.
Err I mean 1 strike and they hall you off to the communist re-education camps.
Don't forget the airquotes when you talk about Chinese "internet".
Look at it this way - right now there are more than 52,000 merchant ships sailing the seas. Have we run out of space in the ocean? And then add in the fact that space is 3d, so adding in vertical stacks, the number of satellites that can be safely fit in LEO is huge.
Or for harder numbers, the earth has a surface area of 510 million km^2. Figure 1 km^2 area per satellite, and 1 km between orbital levels, and LEO orbits from say 600 km to 1000 km, and you get 204 billion satellites.
Sorry, this analysis totally misses
1) most ships and airplanes travel coordinated, non-intersecting, paths.
2) ships and airplanes also maneuver to avoid each other
3) while you have low density you also have very high sweep-rates
Neither is the case with satellites (although #1 might be possible), and we will soon see a need for such. The actual statistics on oritiabl collision with either other satellites or misc launch debris is already getting pretty grim.
Exactly as I posted above; I love rural America and hate living in the city. My best memories is when my uncle took me to the woods between the cities of Rosamund and Gorman, California.
Ships on the sea are puttering along by comparison. Satellites are moving TREMENDOUSLY fast. They cover much, much more ground (well, sky) - at that altitude, they are probably moving something like 15,000 mph. Compare this to a container ship that may travel at something around 25 mph. And when these satellites collide they will create massive clouds of debris and potentially a cascading chain of collisions that would render LEO unusable, commonly called the Kessler Effect. A couple of container ships might bounce off each other, drop a few container, and keep on steaming (deadlines, you know). In short - these suckers move fast, and there is a much higher probability of their courses intersecting catastrophically than a ship on the sea and with much more disastrous consequences.
Me Chinese me pway joke.. Me put Pee Pee in your Coke.
will there be any room left ?
Not if the renowned Slashdot collaborator from San Jose decides to place himself into orbit to have better spam control.
"After the tests with the first Hongyun satellite, another four satellites will be launched by the end of 2020 to form a small network for the project’s trial run. Operational satellites will be launched after the first tests of the baseline network prove successful."
The first is the testing prototype you dipshit, then they launch multiples every time you illiterate neckbearded cunt beta. Of course being a head-in-ass-Republican you can never admit you're so obviously, plainly wrong can you bitch?
Satellite collision is an inevitable result since they arenâ(TM)t recovered from orbit when they run out of fuel.
World domination of course.
Corporatism != Free Market
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Spies deep in rural America will finally have a trusted network to send information collected out with.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
there maybe virtually unlimited space for all these LEOs, its spectrum that is limited.
Who in the hell would want to use the Chinese version of this. Even the Chinese would avoid it like the plague if they could connect via another less restrictive one.
A couple of container ships colliding are going to crumple like theyâ(TM)re made of putty and then sink. They are not designed as giant bumper cars.
Yes, they are.
LOL. The US government will not fund something that eats the profits of its sponsors.
What's their frequency allocation? Some comments on orbital slots, but there's also finite amount of spectrum available as well.
What's more interesting IMHO is that these suckers have ADS-B and AIS receivers so that aircraft and ships can be tracked:
* https://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ani/china-launches-first-satellite-for-broadband-communication-118122200369_1.html
While the global sat Internet may be useful, CN is more interested about monitoring things.
Throw some lenses and image sensors, and you have pervasive surveillance of the planet:
* https://warontherocks.com/2018/11/persistent-eye-in-the-sky-how-commercial-satellites-can-help-the-navy-achieve-superior-maritime-awareness/
* https://www.c4isrnet.com/intel-geoint/2018/12/03/is-near-instant-satellite-imagery-in-the-near-future/
Of course this makes sense, both Russia and China figured out how to manipulate the people through misinformation, it’s cheaper then shipping them off to gulags
There is no freedom in your stupid head you fucking spoiled American. Try live in a third-world country for a few days!
Tard.
One thing I worried about when learning of other LEO Satellite Internet was the satellites being shot down as they pass over China. So, China putting up their own constellation that could be shot down in retaliation sounds like motivation for them not to throw stones. Plus, it will be amusing when they achieve commercial competitiveness by putting up internet for the rest of the world that is less censored than the internet that they provide domestically.
We have freedom to make fun of our leaders, no so in China, unless you want your organs donated.
Space is big but it's more complicated than that. One kilometer between satellites is only a little over 0.1 seconds in the direction they travel since LEO is ~7.8 km/s. You also can't just lay them in parallel like lanes on a freeway, the orbits looks like a sinusoidal so the orbits intersect and get squished together at maximum inclination. Finally any satellites you're discarding must pass through the other orbital layers despite orbits intersection as you can't keep the exact same orbit from a different altitude. You can see a simulation with the orbital planes here. A few back-of-the-napkin estimates suggest to me that to keep all satellites an an offset and at >1 second from each other you'll probably not want more than ~1000 in a LEO orbital plane. That would put the total at something more like half a million. There is currently about 500 operating LEO satellites...
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So make a GNSS reciever that ignores any data from GPS satelites iand instead bases its calculationd on Galileo etc instead, presto no chance for the US to directly controll the input dara unless ofc the por in a call to ESa GSA and tell thrm to transmit bad data or else, but that is a different question and allso way ot. Have a nice day
And your leaders are free to make fun of you all too..
Chinese can make fun of your leaders just as freely as you. We have freedom to make fun of our leaders, no so in China, unless you want your organs donated.
No doubt starlink will be in place before China, but I wonder if 1-web will be first? There are several others, but I think that starlink or 1-web will be up first.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
No doubt starlink will be in place before China
No doubt WindBourne is sucking Elon's penis.
See subject & imo (in modems w/ a login screen yet no routing (logon to WHAT is the question, right?)).
I did as in years past & requested a modem w/ routing (for creating firewalling, port filtering, DNS change etc.).
Got CANCELLED by policy @ warehouse level!
AFTER I went to Spectrum local outlets asking for a NEW modem w/ more than 1 port WHICH I DID IN THE PAST no problem & got before.
They had no NEW DOCSIS 3.1 COMPLIANT MODEMS w/ more than 1 port @ LOCAL outlets (thus request to their warehouse THEIR PEOPLE DID 4 ME).
I'm 'stuck' unless I buy a firewall router to bridge w/ a NO SECURITY "dumb brick" - I DON'T TRUST THIS THING & I'd rather BUY an "ALL IN 1" cablemodem!
I need DNS change/portfilter/firewalling in a MODEM/ROUTER to AVOID a China TECHNICOLOR REBRAND modem that "ODDLY" has a LOGON SCREEN NOBODY CAN ACCESS: Not EVEN the ISP despite sending a bin config file & WHY A LOGON TO A MACID IN A NIC (dumb passthru)
I had to RIG MY HOSTS FILE JUST TO SEE A LOGON SCREEN!
(In other routing featuring modems they gave me in the past I never had THAT issue)
Their techs @ ALL LEVELS SEE it on their private WAN they peer up to other networks (& THEY CAN' LOGON EITHER).
QUESTION - WHY INSERT LOGON CODE INTO A DUMB MODEM?
SCREAMS "bad" imo like a NETWORK OF ATTACK BOTS in remotely compromisable 'modems'!
APK
P.S.=> Correct me IF I'm wrong (I hope I am)
World space agencies have studied the issues and have written "guidelines" (see sect. 4) and self-policing policies, which tend to trickle down to the commercial sector. With government approvals in mind, there seems to be the equivalent of a "land rush" of commercial providers securing orbital real estate.