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AMD Gets Serious About Chromebooks at CES 2019 (cnet.com)
An anonymous reader shares a report: AMD's early CES 2019 announcements brought us some updates on its laptop processors, which include a targeted attempt to capture some of the growing cheap Chromebook market, slightly faster mobile Ryzens and a promise to keep everyone's AMD laptop drivers up to date with the latest zero-day game-release optimizations. Sadly, the news didn't include the much-anticipated, high-performance 7-nanometer Navi GPUs or the rumored Ryzen 3000-series desktop CPUs -- hopefully, the company's just holding back that info for its CEO's keynote on Wednesday.
For the first time, AMD has gained a little bit of traction in Chromebooks with some partner announcements at CES such as the HP Chromebook 14 AMD and the Acer Chromebook 315. The announcements are in conjunction with the new A4-9120C and its sibling, the A6-9220C, which have slower CPU and GPU clock speeds than the 15-watt full-fat versions. That allows AMD to match the 6-watt target power draw of Intel's competing Celeron and Pentium models. AMD claims somewhat better performance on both Chrome OS and Android apps, which is possible given that their clock speeds are still faster despite the drop. Further reading: AMD at CES 2019: Ryzen Mobile 3000-Series Launched, 2nd Gen Mobile at 15W and 35W, and Chromebooks.
Does anyone know of a good SFF Ryzen system (not something gaming specific)a
Ignored and pointless.
I wanted to explain you why you are wrong. Then I saw your average reaction score. Please keep posting with your account and not as AC, you would drag the AC average down and tarnish our reputation.
CPU performance between 28 nm and 22 nm isn't significant unless you can add more units or cache (you generally don't). The main advantage is a die shrink that reduces costs. These AMD chromebooks are going to effectively use a 5 year old architecture at full cost when in low volume. If AMD sees a lot of volume, they can die shrink and crank up their own profits significantly.
NREs (Non-recurring engineering) costs are the driving factor here. AMD is playing things safe, and apparently they were successful in securing deals else we wouldn't have heard about it. It's a smart move on their part with the current yo-yo market, frequent tariff scares, and interest rate uncertainty.
I like Chromebook. It is the best. I think that everybody should use Chromebook.
All the disadvantages of a locked-down smartphone from a data kraken,
and of a laptop's "actual computer user" features (that you can't actually use as a computer).
So exclusively disadvantages.
The SUVs of the computing world.
Ergo, they will be a Big Hit(TM)!
(Read: Marketed, like with this adtickle, until you believe you need one one.)
"I take it as a badge of honor and objective evidence of my own intelligence." That's just more evidence of what a fucking moron you actually are, we know you know nothing about electronics in reality.
But please, continue dispelling all doubt.
It'll probably be prices to compete with Pentiums (maybe Celerons) just like the desktop version does. Those $200-$300 laptops out there might soon start featuring the 300U.
It may consume more power than a mobile Pentium, but the 300U will likely perform much better in most tasks.
So what added value will AMD bring to a platform that's used mainly for casual web browsing? I doubt there are any compelling online games that will run on the Chromebook's notoriously small storage space? Ultra HD videos are out of the picture unless Google comes out with a tabloid size Chromebook (a Chromepaper?).
I used to think Chrome OS was perfect for entry level CPU's. But Google has tried to tack on more stuff like Android apps, and improving Chrome browser. But all the while this has taken a toll of resources and if you don't have a Pentium or higher CPU with at least 4Gb Ram. A Chromebook isn't very good and in most cases I would say there is more focus on premium Chromebooks then anything.
It's nice to see AMD get a foothold in the tablet market. But the 3000 series APUs, also announced today, are more important imho. For example, the 15 watt 3700U is ideal for a midrange ultrabook. With it's 10 Vega GPU cores it can handle 1080p gaming just fine, in additional to that Zen+ Ryzen goodness. I'm thinking you're going to see AMD ultrabooks at the top of bestseller lists for the first time ever.
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
The difference between manufacturing nodes is not that noticeable at low operating frequency. Larger sizes have larger dynamic operating costs - but the static operating costs are determined more by design then by frequency. So for Chromebooks running at a low frequency, one has to look at changes made to the silicon to see if AMD is taking them seriously. The only thing we know is that there are two new part numbers so AMD _might_ be taking them seriously. Or not... time will tell.
When you believe that the problem is everyone else, you can be certain that the problem is actually you.
It is great that there will be $300 hybrids
But 2400GE or 3400GE? $500 hybrids capable of playing Steam games at 60 fps in 720p
will be the great deal and boom of sells.
Lignux container in Chrome OS still does not play sounds, but that day is near
And a Chrome OS laptop capable of android gaming plus Steam gaming in native linux, proton or wine with a nice price as $500 that is a console price - $400 or under in a desktop - box - version - will be a great SOHO deal.
Wow you are getting all worked-up about this. I'm sorry your penis is so small, life must really suck to be you.
collateral effect :)
In general, yes die shrinks let you increase clocks and lower energy. In this particular case, there isn't a significant difference in Fmax and Vmin.