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Germany Reportedly Seeks US Assistance After Hacking Breach (bloomberg.com)

German authorities sought help from the U.S. National Security Agency after discovering that hackers had released private data linked to Chancellor Angela Merkel and hundreds of other German politicians, Bild newspaper reported. From a report: Responding to the biggest data dump of its kind in the country, German investigators wanted the U.S. intelligence agency to lean on Twitter to shut down profiles with links to the data, Bild said, citing unidentified security officials. German authorities argued that U.S. citizens were among thousands of people exposed by the data dump. As investigators seek to find out how data including email addresses, mobile phone numbers and private chat protocols were exposed, politicians took aim at Germany's Federal Office for Information Security, known as BSI, for failing to respond after receiving initial indications in December.

40 comments

  1. Couldn't have happened to a nicer chancellor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    She deserves to be given all the respect that she has given to the current administration.

    1. Re: Couldn't have happened to a nicer chancellor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And why does Germany feel so entitled? I am quite sure Germany is aware of exactly how they ought to handle this and they refuse

    2. Re:Couldn't have happened to a nicer chancellor. by Drethon · · Score: 1

      She deserves to be given all the respect that she has given to the current administration.

      You give what you get, at least when you decide on tit for tat, rather than trying to be the better person and helping regardless.

    3. Re: Couldn't have happened to a nicer chancellor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Germany never does a good thing with secret side deals. We should all trust what Germany says.

    4. Re: Couldn't have happened to a nicer chancellor. by bickerdyke · · Score: 2

      Well, probably because they turned a blind eye when the NSA was caught snooping on Merkel's private phone calls....

      And "Bild" isn't exactly some reputable or unbiased source.

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    5. Re: Couldn't have happened to a nicer chancellor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She did not deserve that

    6. Re: Couldn't have happened to a nicer chancellor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And where is your proof? It is a stupid thing to say.

    7. Re: Couldn't have happened to a nicer chancellor. by Drethon · · Score: 1

      Germany never does a good thing with secret side deals. We should all trust what Germany says.

      Part of why I'm not calling out anyone specifically. I'm not particularly thrilled with most parties involved in politics these days. Though my present level of annoyance means I'm not keeping up as much as I probably should on political activities if I want to comment clearly on anything.

    8. Re: Couldn't have happened to a nicer chancellor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The curreny US admin has unequivicobaly lead the charge in downgrading relations between all of its former allies (including Germany). Only a myopic nationalist would expect them to respond kindly to that...

  2. Re:Trump is a traitor, zero respect due from allie by jamesborr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Anonymous coward -- kind of says it all...

  3. Very wise of them by Mikkeles · · Score: 4, Funny

    They are smart to go to the source of the hack. And ask nicely!

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    1. Re:Very wise of them by CaptainDork · · Score: 2

      You insensitive clod.

      I came here to say just that.

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    2. Re:Very wise of them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They didn't go to Russia, they went to a Russian patsy.

  4. Re:Trump is a traitor, zero respect due from allie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "James Borr" all you've said is you're too much of a faggot to actually have anything to say in reply. Suck Putin's dick directly, cut out the middle traitor.

  5. Ah, Bild. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The crappiest crap press around here. I wouldn't take that seriously.

    1. Re: Ah, Bild. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All that nonsense about the NSA. I could not have gave effed things up worse than Germany if I had infinite time to prepare to make exactly the wrong decision at every point in time. I doubt they will be transparent or try to make anything right.

    2. Re:Ah, Bild. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a step up though. The last /. post about the "hack" was from Vice.

    3. Re:Ah, Bild. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If you think that's a step up, you don't really know what Bild is.

  6. The NSA/CIA probably did the hacking by WCMI92 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Except mostly incompetently given that they are government workers.

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    1. Re:The NSA/CIA probably did the hacking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except mostly incompetently given that they are government workers.

      So why did they publish the data?

  7. "Full take" at DECIX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Our government allows the US to spy on us, because snooping on one's own people is frowned upon. This "asking for help" is just how German law enforcement circumvents the Fernmeldegeheimnis (privacy of telecommunications). They are not allowed to record everybody's internet traffic, but they can ask someone who does record everything.

  8. Was Germany helpful when Wikileaks arrived? by Skinkie · · Score: 0

    You may wonder, they are trying to use the US intelligence service now. Was Germany helpful in the past for example when the Wikileaks cables were published?

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    1. Re:Was Germany helpful when Wikileaks arrived? by Tom · · Score: 1

      Yes, they were. For example, they didn't make a stink when it turned out that the NSA is spying on its allies, including the highest levels of government.

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    2. Re:Was Germany helpful when Wikileaks arrived? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, Germany was very helpful to the US. They never did anything about all the crimes committed by US agencies that were exposed by Wikileaks, even though Germans were victims to quite a few of them. To please their ally, they acted as though none of that ever happened.

  9. Not So Private by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why would anyone put "private data linked to Chancellor Merkel and hundreds of other German politicians" on a network? Corporations do this because they can save a few cents here and there. And they have no reason to protect their customers data.

    But - despite the GDPR's supposed focus on privacy - the Germans have displayed that they are a bunch of bumbling fools.

    Perhaps the sole purpose of the GDPR was to provide an income stream.

    They got what they deserved.

    1. Re:Not So Private by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What does this have to do with GDPR? Wat happened was illegal before GDPR and it still is. I also don't see how GDPR would provide an income stream to anyone, except maybe a few lawyers.

  10. it could be worse by slashmydots · · Score: 1, Troll

    At least they didn't leak the new crime statistics now that Merkel let dangerous, unfiltered Islamic refugees into the country. Now THAT would be damaging.

    1. Re:it could be worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To whom would it be damaging to show that crime continuous to drop slowly as it has for years? To populists who depend on FUD to get support from ignorant people? I doubt their following will be convinced by facts.

    2. Re:it could be worse by yuriklastalov · · Score: 1, Troll

      It's easy to show a drop in crime when you change the way crimes are reported to manipulate public opinion. You see if we don't collect information about the ethnicity or religion of perpetrators, then there cannot be a correlation of crime rates to those populations! For what crimes that stubbornly remain, refusal to investigate ensures that such crime can be ignored by simple under reporting. What's left is a measure of crimes by the native population and a reliable way to shame and demoralize them into whatever machinations the globalist elites wish to pursue.

    3. Re:it could be worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, your claim is that it's impossible to know what the real crime stats are, and simultaneously that crime has really gone way up?

      Does this position strike anyone else as inconsistent?

    4. Re:it could be worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, my brother is still fighting for benefits that he's worked for in Britain. Unfortunately he won't get them because all the money has been soaked up by $30K/year refugees who haven't paid even one penny into the infrastructure. Apparently being white is a death sentence these days and the whole planet is party to that genocide.

      With foreign policy like this we don't even need Hitler.

  11. Re: Merkel deserves all the shit she gets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you may be surprised to find that large swaths of the world disagree with ypu on that. Go look how Germany is precieved in opinion polls arpund the world. (And if ur really coragious compare that to how the US is precieved...)

  12. This is a f*cking disgrace! by Slayer · · Score: 1

    After years of "stopping evil hackers in their tracks" by making possession of hacking tools illegal, and mostly by hoping for the best while furiously clicking in some Internet Explorer input mask, Germany finally wakes up to the real world. Well, not really yet, because Seehofer still hasn't stepped down over this, the BSI still hasn't been disbanded and restarted from scratch (this time with real people), and I guess Munich is still going ahead full steam towards a Windows only administration, because "some essential educational software package really, really requires it". Now they go crying to big Mommy USA, pleading for help, making even bigger fools of themselves in front of the general public (which doesn't really seem to care all that much anyway).

    Hint to all Germans: if some right wing nutter can grab this much data from that many politicians across the political spectrum, without most of them even noticing, imagine what the Chinese/Russians/North Koreans are doing to you every day. And sorry, Seehofer, airtight surveillance of all your citizen's internet traffic will not fix that.

    Hint to all other Europeans: quit laughing about the silly Germans already, you know you will be next in line if anyone ever cared about you.

  13. Re: Merkel deserves all the shit she gets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So let's take a look... Most countries in the EU dislike Germany (or better, Merkel) for opening the borders in 2015 without asking. Now Europe has the refugee problem that is driving up votes for right wing parties all across the EU. Her refusal to stop it by closing borders again also fuels the migration because poor and unqualified people see that they only need to make it to the EU to have a better life; so indirectly, this could make her responsible for everybody who dies on the way there.
    And instead of admitting her failure and trying to fix the root causes as promised numerous times, she now steps down as cancellor, leaving the EU in shambles, ripe for the right wing.

  14. Re:Trump is a traitor, zero respect due from allie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously kid, just STFU. The "Orange Man Bad" BS is just so tired now as well as lame.

  15. there should be regulation making u2f mandatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    big social platforms should be regulated to offer universal 2 factor authentication (with FIDO), like google does already;
    then only "allowed" devices can access your account, regardless, how weak your password...

    1. Re:there should be regulation making u2f mandatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes it's only some dollars
      https://www.amazon.com/Feitian-Multipass-ePass-FIDO-Bundle/dp/B07G32C8NT/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1546900019&sr=1-7&keywords=fido+u2f