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University of California Tells Students Not To Use WeChat, WhatsApp In China (cnn.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from CNN: Students and faculty at the University of California (UC) have been warned not to use messaging apps and social media while visiting China, for fear their communications could be used against them by the country's law enforcement agencies. The guidance from one of the biggest school networks in the U.S. is the latest concern to be raised over Western travel to China following the December 1 arrest of Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou at the request of U.S. authorities.
The UC guidance also appeared to reference the case of Paul Whelan, a U.S. citizen arrested in Russia last month on suspicion of espionage. "While the use of WhatsApp, WeChat and like messaging apps are legal in China, we have seen in the latest espionage charge of a U.S. citizen in Russia where the use of WhatsApp has been cited in his espionage charges," read an email seen by CNN. "Our concern here is the possibility China could use this condition similarly against western travelers to levy charges or as an excuse to deny departure. We recommend not using these messaging apps in China at this time."
The UC guidance also appeared to reference the case of Paul Whelan, a U.S. citizen arrested in Russia last month on suspicion of espionage. "While the use of WhatsApp, WeChat and like messaging apps are legal in China, we have seen in the latest espionage charge of a U.S. citizen in Russia where the use of WhatsApp has been cited in his espionage charges," read an email seen by CNN. "Our concern here is the possibility China could use this condition similarly against western travelers to levy charges or as an excuse to deny departure. We recommend not using these messaging apps in China at this time."
... warns socialist students that their normal day to day activities in a socialist nation might get them arrested, imprisoned, and re-educated.
Oh, the irony.
Get used to it.
It's always hilarious to educated people that Republicans can't ever manage to tell the difference between socialism and communism.
It's as if all Republicans enjoy being retarded and wrong about everything, like Putin gave out free handjobs for that. I bet Trump Jr. might though.
My government tells me not to bring laptops or phones with me to the USA for fear they could be used against me by the country's law enforcement agencies.
I do what I want go fuck yourself school
You pretty much have to use WeChat in China. Most others are banned.
But you need to be constantly aware that everything you post might be read and possibly misinterpreted by a paranoid censor who may mark it against you. Unlikely to be arrested, but you may not be let back into the country.
So keep it very clean and simple.
This is exactly the same behaviour that you should also use with western social media. The problem is not nearly as bad, but it still exists. So going to China is probably a good thing in teaching discipline.
Isn't that true everywhere? In fact, doesn't the US currently have a policy where agents are allowed to access everything on any device that you bring into or out of the US without even any reason for suspicion?
The problem is not that the Chinese police may access your device it is that they are looking extremely hard for any, even trivial, violation of their laws so they can arrest you to try and get leverage against the US just like they have been doing with Canada.
You just keep looking down on those you so despise.
Keep telling yourself how ignorant they are, how they're all a bunch of buck teethed yokles who are too foolish to understand science, reason, politics, philosophy, or religion (or, perhaps in your case, the lack thereof).
Keep spending their money - because they're the ones you want to tax into oblivion so this time, this time, you can implement your socialist paradise the Right Way (tm).
See how all that works out for you.
While you're waiting, you might look to what's going on in France today. One of your socialist giants seems to well neigh have a revolution on his hands. Wonder what he did to make that happen.
as residents of Mexico currently face sentencing based on evidence collected from their use of the FlexiSpy mobile app. And that is even if their travel to the US is involuntary, as Mr. Guzmán told us.
But feel free to use the apps in the USA, the land of the free, where the NSA has either hacked or forced their way into the apps via secret national security letters.
" all of which have government hooks deeply embedded. " - And yet in China, they're COMMUNIST PARTY OWNED ENTIRELY, and people disappear off the streets forever swept up by said party.
Anyone who goes to China is asking to die in a prison without a trial. It's a criminal cabal, not a country.
We should know by now that China severely monitors dissenters there using WeChat. But WhatsAPP supposedly has end-to-end encryption in which case how are they monitoring that app? Of course we know Facebook owns WhatsApp so have they created a special version for China with a backdoor?
and they issue warnings for going to China?
Did UC administration failed at basic geography or what?
Why would someone even want to go to China? They can arrest you just because they feel like it and you don't have any recourse. Not my idea of fun.
If you travel to China or another authoritarian country, then you do so at your own risk. You should not expect us Americans to expend our political or financial resources to rescue you.
If you travel to China or another authoritarian country, then you do so at your own risk. You should not expect us Americans to expend our political or financial resources to rescue you.
I kept score on homework in the University so much that even my friends are party people began to worry about me. I felt lost and didn't understand what I really wanted from life, what grades could I think of? Of course, the edge of consciousness, I realized that it is necessary to make at least a little effort, but did nothing. In the end, my friend said that I should at least order the finished work, if I can not do it myself and shared a link to the site, where he once ordered the research work https://www.essaymission.com.au/. I was able to get out of my teenage crisis and start learning, but still sometimes I use the advice of my friend, as laziness happens to everyone, and good grades are not so easy to get)
The US State Department ought to place China on the list of countries that it advises Americans to avoid while reminding them that if the choose to go anyway, they're on their own and we won't rescue them. Visiting China is a good way to end up as a hostage or worse. Americans with any sense will avoid going there.
Actually, if universities were really smart, they would be telling students and faculty to never visit a communist country.
People disappear in China HOURLY
Citation needed.
Probably I link to a blog with run-on sentences and a high ALL-CAPS to words ratio at realtruthyredbloodedpatriotfreedomnews.blogspot.com titled "You Won't Believe What Happens in Commie China! The Incoming Yellow Peril11".
All I can hear is the sound of propaganda against a rival economy - there seems to be a steady stream of these negative stories aiming to support a narrative that China is somehow worse than all other big countries, and not a good place to do business.
We went to China on holiday in September, cruised down the Yangtze (Chang Jiang) through the 3 gorges visited Chengdu and ChongQing. I can tell you this is a modern, prosperous country with friendly people, a long fascinating history - and a great future ahead.
We used Wechat, etc etc without problems, and I have little doubt that many different countries (and some companies) have full access to everything on our accounts. I do doubt that anyone is combing through the material to find reasons to arrest tourists. If anyone has a list of actual arrests, please share it . . . .
We had some drug dealers going down based on stuff that was on their whatsapp here in Brazil too. They were arrested, their phones checked and used against them. That's normal.
If a car was in the charges they would also tell people not to get inside vehicles in China?
If you use whatsapp for spying, your phone is caught and the decrypted communications show a crime, it will be used in charges. It doesn't matter much what country you are in.
Weechat you have to use in China, at least to order a meal in restaurants. Everybody knows it is not encrypted and checked, so it is much safer to use (just cause you know not to talk stuff that might get you in trouble).