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Legendary Mathematician Sir Michael Atiyah Dies at Age 89 (bbc.com)

"One of the world's foremost mathematicians, Prof Sir Michael Atiyah, has died at the age of 89," reports the BBC.

"He has been described to me by more than one professor of mathematics as the best mathematician in this country since Sir Isaac Newton," his brother tells the BBC. Slashdot reader OneHundredAndTen shared their report: Sir Michael was best known for his co-development of a branch of mathematics called topological K-theory and the Atiyah-Singer index theorem. His research also involved deep insights relating to mathematical concepts known as "vector bundles". His work in these areas has helped theoretical physicists to advance their understanding of quantum field theory and general relativity.
In September, Atiyah also claimed to have proved the 160-year-old Riemann hypothesis.

"If the hypothesis is proven to be correct," New Scientist reported, "mathematicians would be armed with a map to the location of all such prime numbers, a breakthrough with far-reaching repercussions in the field."

38 comments

  1. Big maybe, sure. FTFA: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Atiyah is well aware of this history of failure. “Nobody believes any proof of the Riemann hypothesis, let alone a proof by someone who’s 90,” he says, but he hopes his presentation will convince his critics.

    New Scientist contacted a number of mathematicians to comment on the claimed proof, but all of them declined. Atiyah has produced a number of papers in recent years making remarkable claims which have so far failed to convince his peers.

    1. Re:Big maybe, sure. FTFA: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If other mathematicians refuse to comment or present enough evidence that his Riemann hypothesis is wrong that means he could be right.

      Our understanding of the mathematics and physics surrounding us has progressed by incremental steps. Every new step up the ladder relying on the previous one to move ahead. But what if some of our earlier assumptions are incorrect and every subsequent assumption going forward is compromised? What if the speed of light is variable 50 billion light years away? What if our understanding of the basic physics of the universe still apply at the farthest edge of the known universe? Why do we have to resort to using cosmological constants to make our math work? Why do we have to use "dark matter" or "dark energy" to make our math work in describing the universe? Keeping in mind that "dark" refers to something no one has ever been able to quantify or prove exists?

    2. Re: Big maybe, sure. FTFA: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stfu and read it, use your brain , it's not hard. I wrote a paper which is closer to proving the RH but mathematicians are assholes and refuse to read my paper because of petty and trivial things. Stuff like formatting or dating to Include "standard definitions" . If someone can shed light on conjecture 3 in my paper at https://arxiv.org/pdf/1812.03396 I'll split the money with ya

    3. Re: Big maybe, sure. FTFA: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      > If other mathematicians refuse to comment or present enough evidence that his Riemann hypothesis is wrong that means he could be right.

      No. It's very, very wrong. He confused basic definitions of simple group theoretic objects. And then used theorems about the correct objects as if they also hold for his doppelgÃngers. So wrong a strong undergraduate would have been able to spot the error. Atiyah has been known to be off his rocker for the last few years and it was embarrassing for the conference organizers to let his talk go through. Mathematicians refused to comment to the press out of respect for Atiyah, because the community believes his legacy does not deserved to be intertwined with his old-age delusions. No one wants to give a quote about a respected mathematician like Atiyah, during his waning days or in his obituary, that comes out as "this dude's a fuckin dumbass now, lol".

    4. Re:Big maybe, sure. FTFA: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because math and physics are two different things. Sometimes we get lucky and the two align.

      "The most incomprehensible thing about the universe is that it's [sometimes] comprehensible."

    5. Re: Big maybe, sure. FTFA: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should ask on 4chan. They have an established track record in solving mathematical theorems, opposed to this place.

    6. Re: Big maybe, sure. FTFA: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lol

    7. Re: Big maybe, sure. FTFA: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly.

    8. Re: Big maybe, sure. FTFA: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/24/18019464/4chan-anon-anime-haruhi-math-mystery

    9. Re:Big maybe, sure. FTFA: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trying to prove the Riemann has to be one of the most hazardous pursuit in the field of mathematics as it has driven mathematicians insane before, in the actual psychiatric sense. On the other hand, I have a belief that when the theoretical pieces are in place, somebody has to simply notice the obvious corollary. Less harmful stress for everybody that way.

    10. Re: Big maybe, sure. FTFA: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This happens to all of us.

      If you live long enough, eventually, you lose your mental strength. The human brain experiences a slow net decline in neuron count over the course of its entire life (beginning at around age 3). Eventually, there simply aren't enough neurons there to support the cognitive load.

      It is a grim reality that we all face.

    11. Re: Big maybe, sure. FTFA: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thereâ(TM)s some fairly compelling evidence that dark matter does, in fact exist.

    12. Re: Big maybe, sure. FTFA: by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      You spew in ignorance.

      Notable mathematicians are still evaluating Atiyah's proof. It is unknown as of now whether there is an error in it.

    13. Re:Big maybe, sure. FTFA: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "failed to convince his peers" is kind of a wishy-washy statement for *mathematics*.

      It's not like political opinion or economic opinion. Claims about maths can be either proven, or disproven. "failed to *convince* his peers" sounds they're skeptical, but nobody has bee able to disprove the claims any of these papers. If they've been disproven, then the article should just say that they've been disproven.

      "failed to convince his peers" is meaningless in *mathematics* because "opinions" aren't a relevant thing in mathematics.

    14. Re: Big maybe, sure. FTFA: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry kid. You probably read something about the abc conjecture and thought it sounded similar enough to the Riemann hypothesis.

    15. Re: Big maybe, sure. FTFA: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would to give mod points to this fellow. I read a paper he wrote and it was so precise - not only in the math but in the way the theorems were ordered, including which nuances were in which theorems to support subsequent theorems. In addition, e donâ(TM)t he chose was impeccable, the spacing between the equations and the text was set up as though he knew exactly where you would want to make notes. Referring back through the paper was really easy - he clearly knew how document layout was done and the most common questions you would have would require you to read sections near the top outside margins. Almost art, may it was its own art form. A combination of visual design, inspired writing and a dash of poetry. You just had to smile after reading it.

    16. Re: Big maybe, sure. FTFA: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Iggymanz knows nothing about math. Just to set this record straight, he has no idea.

    17. Re: Big maybe, sure. FTFA: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about basic arithmetic:
      21 + 89 + 53 + 75

    18. Re: Big maybe, sure. FTFA: by ebcdic · · Score: 2

      Notable mathematicians are still evaluating Atiyah's proof.

      Name three.

    19. Re: Big maybe, sure. FTFA: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      you should keep reading slashdot headlines today

    20. Re: Big maybe, sure. FTFA: by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      Name three.

      He said "mathemeticians" not "mathemetacian". "Espilon mathematicians currently evaluating his proof" would qualify according to the GP's criteria. You're requiring infinitely many more.

      If maths isn't about extreme pedantry then it's not about anything.

      --
      SJW n. One who posts facts.
    21. Re: Big maybe, sure. FTFA: by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      I have a better idea, why don't you use a search engine and educate yourself, you lazy ignorant fuck who isn't in the field.

  2. Re: Let me be the first to say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Same, I do not care. YAWN.

  3. Well now by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    This definitely qualifies as “News for Nerds”. But has Jonathan Coulton written a song about him?

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    #DeleteChrome
    1. Re:Well now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not really, no one knew this guy existed till now.

    2. Re:Well now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BS, I knew about sir Michael A about 35 years ago, and I'm not a mathematician.

  4. Better Him Than Me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a saying that I say when ever I read these stories. "Better Him than Me.

  5. No proof of the Riemann Hypothesis by UnixUnix · · Score: 3, Informative

    Indeed, Atiyah had no proof. I did not say so in public, for the same reason others didn't; he was after all one of last century's great mathematicians [c.f. Littlewood at Jourdain's death-bed, see his Miscellany]. In private, I was asked and pointed out what should have been obvious: his not-clearly-spelled-out argument would nevertheless have applied not just to the zeta function but to any other analytic function as well! It's a quick sanity check very familiar to anyone confronted with a supposed new argument/proof method, "if this were correct what else would it prove".

    1. Re:No proof of the Riemann Hypothesis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So he was great because people were afraid to call him out on being a moron? Mathematicians are beta males.

    2. Re:No proof of the Riemann Hypothesis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right go ahead and bully a sick old man. That'll go over well I the scientific community.

  6. Ah, the thread by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    in which every code monkey reads a bit in Wikipedia and begin pretending to know math for a little karma.

  7. Newton is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    a great physicist but it is not as great of a mathematician. Leibniz's Calculus was superior to Newton.

  8. This is wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry but that is a good reason to comment very gently and respectfully but it is not a good reason to refuse to comment altogether and allow the public to believe that there was a solution.

  9. Legendary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did he get 5 for 2+2 one day?

  10. A story... by DanielRavenNest · · Score: 3, Funny

    One time, Atiyah walked into a bar, and ordered a beer. After he had finished it, he then ordered half a beer. Some time later, he ordered a quarter of a beer. The bartender asks him "Why are you ordering that way?". Atiyah says "I know my limits..."