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The US Government Has Amassed Terabytes of Internal WikiLeaks Data (gizmodo.com)

An anonymous reader shares an excerpt from a Gizmodo report, written by national security reporter and transparency activist Emma Best: Late last year, the U.S. government accidentally revealed that a sealed complaint had been filed against Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks. Shortly before this was made public, the FBI reconfirmed its investigation of WikiLeaks was ongoing, and the Wall Street Journal reported that the Department of Justice was optimistic that it would be able to extradite Assange. Soon after, portions of sealed transcripts leaked that implicate WikiLeaks and Assange in directing hackers to target governments and corporations. The charges against Assange have not been officially revealed, though it's plausible that the offenses are related to Russian hacking and the DNC emails. The alleged offenses in the complaint notwithstanding, the government has an abundance of data to work with: over a dozen WikiLeaks' computers, hard drives, and email accounts, including those of the organization's current and former editors-in-chief, along with messages exchanged with alleged Russian hackers about DNC emails. Through a series of search warrants, subpoenas, equipment seizures, and cooperating witnesses, the federal government has collected internal WikiLeaks data covering the majority of the organization's period of operations, from 2009 at least through 2017.

In some instances, the seized data has been returned and allegedly destroyed, such as in the case of David House, a technologist and friend of Chelsea Manning when she famously became a source for WikiLeaks. In others, the seized materials include communications between WikiLeaks and their sources. Some of these discussions show WikiLeaks discussing their other sources and specific identifying details about them. Other seizures gave authorities a deeper view of the internal workings of WikiLeaks, including one of the earliest known seizures of WikiLeaks-related data, executed on December 14, 2010, when the messages and user information of several WikiLeaks-linked Twitter accounts were ordered. This search-and-seizure order included direct messages associated with WikiLeaks and its founder, former Army private first class and WikiLeaks source Chelsea Manning, WikiLeaks editor Rop Gongrijp, former WikiLeaks associate Jacob Appelbaum, and former WikiLeaks associate and Icelandic MP Birgitta Jonsdottir, between November 1, 2009, and the order's execution.

130 comments

  1. What's the big deal here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Bradley Manning committed a crime. The FBI investigates crimes.

    1. Re: What's the big deal here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think they need to unseal all indictments. It just puts a cloud over good people and creates new witch hunts. All the traitors will rot wherever they rot at this point

    2. Re: What's the big deal here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The grem reaper will come for everyone but he only takes the worst 5% or so. A very special 3.97% of you will have at the sight. He will also ask you questions to see if you are unusually evil in previously unknown ways. Only the worst of the worst go to his special private hell

    3. Re: What's the big deal here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh yes he also does not care if you stutter or speak English poorly as long as you have shown your deep interest in hell and have some original ideas about how to make it worse, you get in. AND he wont just take your friends with you. They have to qualify on their own. Go suck on THAT loser

    4. Re: What's the big deal here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you get your choice of weapons once you get to hell. The worst of the worst pummel sinners with their bare fists. Others may need weapons

    5. Re: What's the big deal here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you complete tour mission they take you to McDonaldâ(TM)s. The worst of the worst never eat the happy meal. They tease a sinner with it and then pollute the restrooms for added misery. But no collusion. All the evil comes from within

    6. Re: What's the big deal here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i guess the worst of the worst probably expect better than taking a bunch of shit from tagalongs? Stupid question

    7. Re: What's the big deal here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And do the worst of the worst ever make errors? Only by accident and almost never

    8. Re:What's the big deal here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For sure! What is with this revisionist history stuff.

      As you said, the person known as Bradly Manning committed the crime. Period!

  2. Ready the firing squad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Got some cleaning up to do today, Ecuador.

    1. Re: Ready the firing squad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I will personally offer my services to deliver the coup de grace with my .45 to his commie-loving traitor's head.

    2. Re: Ready the firing squad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Traitor? Isn't he Australian?

    3. Re: Ready the firing squad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The ITG has never left.

      http://smg.photobucket.com/user/DS1/media/thread_ends/Itg_quarterly.jpg.html

      http://globalnerdy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/internet-tough-guy-magazine.gif

  3. Re:No by xxxLCxxx · · Score: 1, Troll

    So the guys having fun killing civilians (including a Reuters reporter) from an Apache helicopter committed no crime? Have you ever thought about adding a swastika as 51st star? Truth in labelling and all... ;-P

  4. Re:Any New Info? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hillary has treason proof teffon skin. No matter the facts.

  5. Legal Issues and complications by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Having some evidence and being able to lawfully use it in a court of law is another issue.
    It should be inadmissable, or the warrants found defective(say because blackmail/duress was used). Then there is the case of international domain. Was the constitution upheld - ie American journalists targeted. Something about the doctrine of a fair trial (decent countries with literate judges).
    IF its true thay do have all this data (it could be a trick to scare off potential informats) then it will be harder next time, as 500 gig microusb cards travel by person. Undoubtably some data and emails may be false. But other people will have to be investigated. All leads must be followed.

  6. Re:Any New Info? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lizard skin

  7. Circle of Life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that implicate WikiLeaks and Assange in directing hackers to target governments and corporations.

    See, it comes around to the rape charges all over again.

    1. Re: Circle of Life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But now he can cry rape if he wants to

  8. Re: Any New Info? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ah that makes more sense. Of course, assange will just stand in the door of the embassy and say come and get me, as others have tried before

  9. Re: No by c6gunner · · Score: 0

    So the guys having fun killing civilians (including a Reuters reporter) from an Apache helicopter committed no crime?

    Correct.

    Have you ever thought about adding a swastika as 51st star? Truth in labelling and all... ;-P

    Sure, as long as you go ahead and add it to the flag of every nation which has ever accidentally killed civilians in war. Would be rather amusing seeing the proliferation of swastikas at the next UN summit.

  10. Re: Any New Info? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In fact, neither Hillary or Donald committed any crimes, again which is why you only see the traitors in the press complaining and lip service given by some special prosecutor who has found nothing except third parties trying to get into their campaigns and commit crimes unbeknownst to either candidate

  11. Re: No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thank you! I was waiting for YANC yet another nazi crack.

  12. What else is there to target by mapkinase · · Score: 4, Insightful

    that implicate WikiLeaks and Assange in directing hackers to target governments and corporations.

    Shocking. What else is there to target?

    --
    I do not believe in karma. "Funny"=-6. Do good and forbid evil. Yours, Oft-Offtopic Flamebaiting Troll.
    1. Re:What else is there to target by DavenH · · Score: 2

      I think the relevant part of this statement is the verb not the object. Directing people to commit cyber crimes is not the same as receiving leaks from whistleblowers. Maybe I'm taking the troll bait ...

    2. Re:What else is there to target by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's a story about wikileaks and assange in a world where people can and do pay people to drum up fake support and muddle conversations on social media. It's all troll bait.

    3. Re:What else is there to target by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Directing people to commit cyber crimes

      Which is not what Wikileaks have done at all. Now, on the other hand, the US government has been lying about its plots and schemes against Wikileaks and Assange for 10 years now...

    4. Re:What else is there to target by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which is not what Wikileaks have done at all.

      Did you read the summary, let alone the linked articles? Assage directing LulzSec what and how to get information he wanted is clearly shown in the communications the FBI has in their possession.

    5. Re: What else is there to target by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is hardly the first lie against the WL. In the beginning, they were accused of causing deaths. When nothing came out of this, a bought Swedish prosecutor invented the "rape" that never was and a bunch of other lies.

      Character assassination is pretty much the fundamental staple of the US propaganda machine.

      More at 11.

  13. Re:Any New Info? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lizard skin

    What did lizards ever do to you to deserve that?!?

  14. Re:Any New Info? by ArchieBunker · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Bernie had a better chance of winning than Hillary but they didn't want him. They bet everything on her and lost.

    --
    Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
  15. Slashdot should just block comments on some posts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Seriously... everything here is a shit-show of long since debunked conspiracy theories, political mudslinging and trolling. There was never any hope of rational conversation on this topic.

  16. Leaks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why computers are evil government oppression around the world.
    Do more harm than good now. Internet a pipeline of evil into your home.

    1. Re: Leaks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ha just ask the admiral commander if there was any kind of election. He will say no because it was so corrupt it did not even happen

  17. Re: Any New Info? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    obviously not as illegal as you wish it was.

  18. Re:No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You do know that the Iraq's branch of the ostensibly socialist Baath Party was founded after WWII by Nazi collaborators? Saddam Hussein ordered the murder of hundreds of thousands of civilians, and of course it's a war crime that his supporters used civilians as human shields. But those atrocities are trivial compared to the tens of millions murdered by other socialist leaders like Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot.

  19. Who needs "new" "info"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's hackers! And hacking! And russians! And russians hacking! And cyber! And cyber hacking! And! And! And!

  20. Re: Any New Info? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I knew she was a reptilian! David Icke was right!

  21. Re:Slashdot should just block comments on some pos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Unfortunately that's what the majority of the conservative "movement" has morphed into: belligerent, ignorant, treasonous, gullible, conspiracy theorists shouting their rage against everything and everyone who doesn't buy into their increasingly desperate sounding drivel.

  22. Re:No by xxxLCxxx · · Score: 0

    Ehrm? Know your history dude. It was the US backing Saddam Hussein when he committed all those crimes (including gas attacks).

  23. News!? by DaMattster · · Score: 2

    How is this news? Anyone can collect data from Wikileaks as that is kind of the point. The fact that this would be considered news is honestly funny.

    1. Re:News!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, anyone can collect the data that they acquire and leak.
      Not their 'internal' email/message chatter with people supplying that leaked data.
      Would have been ironic to make THAT data public....

    2. Re:News!? by wildfish · · Score: 1

      thanks for the laugh (and on topic post)

    3. Re:News!? by DavenH · · Score: 1

      Internal Wikileaks communications are not public data.

    4. Re:News!? by Rockoon · · Score: 1

      Internal Wikileaks communications are not public data.

      Everything is public data to the NSA.

      --
      "His name was James Damore."
    5. Re:News!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Wikileaks: We'll publish all of your internal communications! It's for the good of all!
      Also Wikileaks: You can't publish our internal communications! That's immoral!

  24. Re:Slashdot should just block comments on some pos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Democrats are the number one conspiracy theorists with their retarded Russia bullshit. How you stupid do you have to be to believe a $5000 facebook ad buy from some Russian guy swung the election. Get real, you utter morons.

  25. Re: Slashdot should just block comments on some po by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shut up, n1gger.

  26. DDB Deletions? by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

    I wonder if this includes all the information deleted by Daniel Domscheit-Berg?

    --
    "When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
    1. Re:DDB Deletions? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well of course, DDB was a CIA agent tasked with a counter-intelligence operation to disrupt Wikileaks.

      His entire existence seems to completely end in 2012, he literally just dropped off the face of the earth. No follow up stories, nothing. It takes a lot of governmental scale resources to make something like that happen for someone who was at the time so high profile.

      Which isn't to say he wasn't the good guy, I think in hindsight he was, though perhaps for the wrong reasons. Since it's become obvious that Wikileaks is now just an extension of the FSB it's probably good the CIA had someone in there, though it's not clear whether they put someone in there because they knew about it being an arm of the FSB from earlier on than we realise, or just coincidence that it was and they actually put him in there simply to disrupt the US government leaking independently of any realisation the organisation has been hijacked by the FSB.

  27. Re: If the Democrats weren't so corrupt... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Exactly this. Notice how the Republicans have never had any issue with WikiLeaks despite the fact we know there email was also hacked? If you aren't corrupt to your core, there's nothing to worry about.

  28. Re:Slashdot should just block comments on some pos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Unfortunately that's what the majority of the conservative "movement" has morphed into: belligerent, ignorant, treasonous, gullible, conspiracy theorists shouting their rage against everything and everyone who doesn't buy into their increasingly desperate sounding drivel.

    When shit gets real, the conservatives will exterminate faggot scum like you, like the subhuman cockroaches you are.

    One bullet per liberal. Are you ready ? Because WE ARE.

  29. The US against free speech. by Mr.+Dollar+Ton · · Score: 3, Funny

    News at 11.

    1. Re:The US against free speech. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which government does not have secrets? Yours?

      I don't believe it. WikiLeaks didn't publish Russian and Chinese secrets because they didn't want to disappear like an Allende foe.

    2. Re:The US against free speech. by Mr.+Dollar+Ton · · Score: 1

      WikiLeaks didn't publish Russian and Chinese secrets because... ... they publish what they get. If Russian and Chinese citizens working for their respective secret-keeping organizations don't volunteer secrets to Wikileaks, what should Wikileaks do to satisfy your conspiracy streak, invent them?

  30. Re: Any New Info? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Kiss-off ivan, that's the exact line we now know was being pushed by the Russians. I've had a secret clearance too and actually know something about that works and i know you're lying.

  31. Republicans are the ones wanting to arrest him. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You DO realise that "your team" is in charge, right?

    1. Re:Republicans are the ones wanting to arrest him. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean the Deep State? The FBI has been anti-Trump the entire time, and Trump has yet to find an AG that's been able to get the DOJ to work with him, not against him. The FBI was blatantly pro-Hillary, that's why she was never properly investigated and never arrested for mishandling highly sensitive and classified documents.

    2. Re:Republicans are the ones wanting to arrest him. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Meanwhile in reality the FBI are in fact a very distinctly REPUBLICAN leaning organisation and Trump's almost certainly a Russian agent.

      Fuck off Ivan

  32. Awww. And words hurt you so much. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When we lefties just say bad things about you or claim to protest when you appear, you're all "Look how violent the left are!!!!".

    Fucking snowflakes the lot of you RWNJs.

  33. So how come several are in prison? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If it were all nothing burger, why all the successful arrests and judgements by prosecution? Soros making it up again???
    And what about your five year long and more bengazi "investigation" that several times found no fault and was just resurrected by you screaming snowflakes? How about pizzagate? Turning frogs gay? Flat eartherism?

    1. Re:So how come several are in prison? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      why all the successful arrests and judgements by prosecution

      The ones arresting people who were tangentially involved with members of the Trump campaign? Yawn.

      And what about your five year long and more benghazi "investigation"

      You mean the security lapses that Hillary Clinton has already claimed responsibility for, yet has seen no repercussion?

      How about pizzagate?

      Human trafficking and child sex rings operating in high places are sadly nothing new.

      Turning frogs gay?

      Frogs will change gender when exposed to certain chemicals that are found in things as common as road salts and suburban waste.

      Flat eartherism?

      Flat earth theory started out as a joke that was adopted by morons.

    2. Re:So how come several are in prison? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The ones arresting people who were tangentially involved with members of the Trump campaign? Yawn.

      Only the presidents Campaign Manager and his Personal Lawyer - barely involved at all really!

    3. Re:So how come several are in prison? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Flat earth theory started out as a joke that was adopted by morons.

      No, by fascists with an agenda. I've not met any left wing flat earthers and neither have you. The entire group is made up of holocaust denying scum. After all, if you can't prove to them that the Earth is flat, how can you prove that 6 million Jews, gays and gypsies died? That's not a fucking coincidence is it, you miserable little piece of shit? They're your people at the end of the day.

    4. Re:So how come several are in prison? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean the successful arrests and prosecutions of bit players for stuff they did that was totally unrelated to the election? Or the prosecutions of the probably unconstitutional law making it a crime to lie to the FBI. Doesn't matter what you lie about. Tell them the sky is red and it's off to jail for you. They can ask you about stuff that happened years ago, that they have recordings of or written records. They try to trick you into answering from memory and if you misremember it's off to jail for you. It's so close to entrapment that eventually someone is going to fight it up to the USSC.

      As for Bengazi. People died. U.S. air power was less than 20 minutes away, but someone made the call to have them stand down. The most likely cause was that the ambassador was there for a secret meeting. The CIA station was also suppose to be secret. Someone made the call not to intervene because, I believe, they wanted the meeting to be kept secret and/or were hoping the CIA station would remain secret.

      The station operatives intervene blew their cover. And the meeting became publicized too (though as far as I know the Obama administration never admitted it happened.)

      Was Clinton responsible for calling off the military and leaving her state department employees (and incidentally the CIA workers) out to dry? I doubt it. But she was either protecting somebody below her in the food chain or somebody above. Its hard to believe she would take the heat for anybody below her. She hasn't generally been that kind of boss. So draw the same conclusion most people have who've honestly looked into this.

  34. Re:No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You need to read up on his background and that of the Baath Party.

    It is true however that the US backed Saddam when they needed him to fight a proxy war with Iran. Then it deposed him because of the atrocities you mention.

     

  35. walkers CAPTCHA: protests by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Assange revealed that the federal government had plans to attack U.S. elementary schools to kill as many american children as possible, and eat them if there was time.

    1. Re:walkers CAPTCHA: protests by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      10$/kilo = 1 centagram

    2. Re:walkers CAPTCHA: protests by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This could pay off the national debt.

  36. Wikileaks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    There's a perfect site to release these leaks!

  37. Re:Slashdot should just block comments on some pos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    DEMOCRATS LIKE ROBERT SWAN MUELLER, lol. You Trumptard cowards should hang when Trump does.

  38. Trump appointees are "Deep state" Now?!??!?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ah, I see. When Anita Sarkeesian goes "It's ALL sexist, it's ALL the patriarchy", she was just aping the idiotic claims of you rightwing nutjobs.

  39. Re: Any New Info? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    they take a slight hold in the House, and what's the first thing they do? Immediately shut down the government.

    You're a fucking retard or a shill, the reality is the govt was shut down before before the Democrats took any power.

    I expect a hostile foreign power to try to destroy our country with lies. If you're an American: fuck you for doing the exact same thing.

  40. Re:Slashdot should just block comments on some pos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When shit gets real, the conservatives will exterminate faggot scum like you, like the subhuman cockroaches you are.

    How cute, a death threat!
    From a no-pussy-getting INCEL no less.
    Aww, was someone triggered?
    A little too close to home maybe?
    Which was it: BELLIGERENT, IGNORANT, TREASONOUS, GULLIBLE, OR CONSPIRACY THEORIST that got you all upset?
    What's next You lecture me on the "violent fascist left"?
    I'm only scared you'll bore me to death.
    Maybe your bad breath could be lethal?
    The one thing I know I will not be killed by is your little einsatzgruppen fantasy.

  41. Re:No by xxxLCxxx · · Score: 0

    No, they didn't. They HELPED him with those atrocities. They "removed" him after he refused to attack Iran any further.

  42. Re:Slashdot should just block comments on some pos by xxxLCxxx · · Score: 1

    These clowns are part of what your "secret services" do. They attempt to create fake masses echoing their catch phrases, while discouraging honest people to get into it (flooding with lotsa shit, etc.).

  43. Re: Any New Info? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    So, you completely missed Trump explicitly stating that it was his shutdown?

  44. The government has no moral high ground here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    No matter whether any laws were technically broken (particularly given the absurd number, impossibility of perfect compliance, and impossibility and imorality of enforcement in a global environment) they are literally irrelevant from a moral perspective. With perfect compliance a free media does not exist nor does a true democracy.

    Even if you don't like that the government routinely like daily works to attack people on petty and absurd basis where there are no victims. They undermine people based on politics and upsetting of the establishment and not based on there being actual victims. Mostly its just petty bureaucrats or law enforcement that have a stick up there ass because someone looked at them funny or didn't immediately comply with a demand. However its apparent from the numerous arrests and "investigations" that its all a setup and nothing the government does can be relied on to pass judgement. The FBI and US government is no better than the Chinese morally.

    The FBI has attacked people repeatedly with accusations that have little or no foundation in reality. From Ian Freman of Free Talk Live to Jacob Appelbaum to Julian Assange. But those are just a few examples of the hundreds of well known figured attacked for political reasons. Many more thousands are attacked out of petty spite for essentially standing up to or not knowing there place in society. The government is very good and fabricating belief in the public that people did wrong even when there is no real evidence to back it up even. Frequently they will use sex and whip up the social justice warriors to ruin people. However it's not the only tactic and sometimes people do get jailed or are driven to commit suicide.

    We need to severely reduce law enforcement and the bureaucracy/government if there is any hope of getting control over the situation, That does mean eliminating the vast majority of government. Think of say actually permanently and honestly shutting down government. Not just temporarily nor permitting 'essential' law enforcement to continue operating. Few of these 'essential' people are really needed outside of certain nuclear and dismantling operations.

  45. Re: Any New Info? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Someone has to take responsibility, and it seems as though he's the only adult in the room as it were. The democrats certainly don't want to take responsibility for this gov't shutdown, even though they have at their command the power to end it at any moment. Trump hasn't left the White House since the shutdown began -- he's ready to sign an acceptable budget bill the moment it hits his desk.

  46. Re:Any New Info? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Agenda 21: It's what's for dinner!"

    hang 'em high boyz.

  47. Re:Any New Info? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have you ever seen a cold-blooded lizard tried for treason? Didn't think so.

  48. Re: Any New Info? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And 30 Democrat fuck-yards are now sunbathing in a shithole nation.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/30-dems-in-puerto-rico-with-109-lobbyists-for-weekend-despite-shutdown

  49. Re:Any New Info? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When everybody can rely upon the gov't for essential goods and services, nobody has to go to work unless they want to. Thus, nobody has to pay taxes unless they want to.

    Vote Bernie for President in 2020!

  50. Re:Slashdot should just block comments on some pos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Clearly once an opinion is formed it may never change ever, no matter what new evidence or behavior comes forth. Thank you, this confirms the conservative mindset perfectly.
    Also notable is the simplistic good and evil dichotomy displayed. No gray areas or nuance for this one.

    Why is Wikileaks "going after" anybody? I thought they just posted information because it wants to be free? "Going After" one target or another is not being an impartial information clearing house it's joining the fray. They can no longer claim to be above it all.
    Oops sorry, no changes in opinion allowed.

  51. Re: Any New Info? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The democrats certainly don't want to take responsibility for this gov't shutdown, even though they have at their command the power to end it at any moment.

    They do. That's why Pelosi had the House pass bills to reopen the government on her first day with the gavel. McConnell wouldn't bring the bills up for a Senate vote (and possible veto override), as he's abdicated his portion of the legislative branch's control of the purse to the president.

  52. Re: Any New Info? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They do. That's why Pelosi had the House pass bills to reopen the government on her first day with the gavel.

    The word "bills" there should be your hint that's complete BS. They don't need multiple bills to reopen the government. They need one.

    They're hoping that by dazzling you with votes you'll think they're doing something when in reality they're just wasting time and refusing to negotiate. All they need to do is pass one bill, and they refuse to even consider it.

  53. Re: Any New Info? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's only the genuine nut jobs who keep insisting you believe their lies even after the truth is clearly out and known to all.

    There Are Four Lights!

  54. But Bernie is a commie. by lamer01 · · Score: 1

    The Russians should have supported him, right?

    1. Re:But Bernie is a commie. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, Sanders as a pro-Imperialist and effectively anti-Russian too. Which is why you have not heard him come out against the "Russia hacked us" hysteria. Well, that and his loyalty to the democratic party (for which he is a spokesperson as the "outreach director").

    2. Re:But Bernie is a commie. by will_die · · Score: 2

      They did. According to the government report on Russia involvement in the election Bernie and Stein(the green party runner) were the two people who got the most direct pro support.

    3. Re:But Bernie is a commie. by FunkSoulBrother · · Score: 1

      You need to update your 30 year old stereotypes, the Russians are authoritarian capitalists now and have been for some time.

  55. Re: Any New Info? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, Trump never said that, so yes, no one has heard that.

    You may be thinking of Trump saying he'd accept responsibility if he vetoed a bill, but it never even got that far, because Democrats have so far prevented any bill from leaving Congress.

  56. Re: Slashdot should just block comments on some po by cyber-vandal · · Score: 0

    The opinion changed due to Wikileaks making Saint Hillary look bad, not due to any change in Wikileaks' behaviour.

  57. Re:Any New Info? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, Bernie advocated taxing the rich and corporations at the rates the poor people pay = a pretty sizeable tax hike on the fatcats, lying faggot.

  58. Freedom of the press? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Imagine if this were the NYT.

    Or the Post. Or fox.

    Or CNN.

  59. Re: Slashdot should just block comments on some po by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...and you Know this, How exactly?
    I should take your opinions as fact... Why again?
    Maybe they realized Wikileaks was selectively taking sides, and not behaving like they claimed they would.

    Personally my opinion of Wikileaks changed when i realized they didn't care about harming regular little people, dumping deeply personal private info online right along with whatever embarrassing state secrets they found.
    My opinion further changed when i realized they were not being an impartial information clearing house they were actors getting involved in attempts to sway outcomes with their own agenda going beyond information wanting to be free.

    Sorry i broke your rules: i changed my mind. That how adults react.
    Try growing up.

  60. Re: Any New Info? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I take that training. There is no "clinton block".

    It is also a joke of a training you complete in 30 minutes tops, unless you're an idiot.

    I also see security violations regularly that get swept under the rug for common underlings. I would imagine it happens for people like Clinton and Trump all the time.

  61. America has never had 'moral high ground'... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They have relied on force of arms since *WASHINGTON* was president.

    Look at the Whiskey Rebellion, Shay's Rebellion, Opening of Japan, Spanish-American War, Mexican American War, placing the Shah in Iran, etc.

    America is running on its divine mandate and 'patriotism', not any actual moral high ground, and that blame goes all the way back to the founding fathers, whatever lofty speeches they made to the contrary they eroded the moral high ground with their own actions, excusing it 'in defense of our fair nation'. Not that this is anything special to the US, every country does it, but before you cast the first stone you should make sure you're not casting it at a mirror of yourself, or another 7 years of bad luck be upon you.

  62. Re: Slashdot should just block comments on some p by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You mean by having an Internet tantrum because someone you never met disagreed with you. Nice adulting. I must remember your fine example.

  63. Assange directed hackers to target governments? by najajomo · · Score: 0

    "portions of sealed transcripts leaked that implicate WikiLeaks and Assange in directing hackers to target governments and corporations."

    There are serious charges and would require strong independent verifiable evidence. What exactly is the evidence that Assange in directing hackers to target governments and corporations. An alternative reading of the issue and I produce the evidence below, is that this is part of the strategy by the US deepstate to discredit Wikileaks and Assange:

    "The WikiLeaks Threat": An Overview by Palandr Technologies, HBGary Federal, and Berico Technologies

    * Security: Need to get to the Swedish document submission server. Need to create doubt about their security and increase awareness that interac6on with WikiLeaks will expose you.

    * Feed the fuel between the feuding groups. Disinforma6on. Create messages around ac6ons to sabotage or discredit the opposing organiza6on. Submit fake documents and then call out the error.

    * Create concern over the security of the infrastructure. Create exposure stories. If the process is believed to not be secure they are done.

    * Cyber attacks against the infrastructure to get data on document submitters. This would kill the project. Since the servers are now in Sweden and France putting a team together to get access is more straightforward.

    * Media campaign to push the radical and reckless nature of wikileaks activities. Sustained pressure. Does nothing for the fanatics, but creates concern and doubt amongst moderates.

    * Search for leaks. Use social media to profile and identify risky behavior of employees.

    * Palantir is broadly deployed throughout the National intelligence and defense communities.

    * Comprised of decorated talent with proven analytical expertise from throughout the Armed Forces.

    * Traditional responses will fail; we must employ the best investigative team, currently employed by the most sensitive of national security agencies ...

  64. Re: Any New Info? by ArylAkamov · · Score: 1

    Oh no, a Russian somewhere at some time might have used this argument, so it's invalid for the rest of time.
    Lmao, you people are brainlets.

  65. Re:Slashdot should just block comments on some pos by epine · · Score: 1

    One bullet per liberal. Are you ready ? Because WE ARE.

    Who needs patient target practice to perfect their shooting accuracy when they've already got crass profanity and ALL CAPS?

    Hey, Dr Evil, perhaps you should order your bullets by the billions, not the millions, based on the above.

  66. We can trust the US government.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    .. to not falsify data in their witch hunt.

    That Vietnam era 'credibility gap' of the US administration became a 'credibility void' in recent history.

    That the US is spying on everyone is not news anymore - that they are spying on Wikileaks is not news.

    This headline is just grandstanding - trying to fool the inattentive and further the bogus story regarding Russia hacking the election - while the headlines should be something along the lines of 'US administration destabilising countries around the world using false flag terrorism and lying to the American people'.

  67. Re: Slashdot should just block comments on some by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Internet tantrum? You're confusing me with the president.

  68. Hypocrisy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... extradite Assange.

    The government that refuses to protect your privacy, now complains their privacy wasn't protected.

    ... WikiLeaks source Chelsea Manning ...

    Manning, unlike Assange, had a duty to protect government secrets and failed that duty in a serious way but served only 7 years for her crime.

    1. Re:Hypocrisy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      for its crime

      FTFY

  69. lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    'hackers' who have worked for wikileaks in the last 5 years might have been directed to do things they weren't capable of by a delusional, self-important idiot.

    That doesn't actually justify the extradition attempt on said self-important idiot.

  70. Re: Slashdot should just block comments on some by cyber-vandal · · Score: 1

    Nope he's a ridiculous child as well

  71. Re:Slashdot should just block comments on some pos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unfortunately that's what the majority of the conservative "movement" has morphed into: belligerent, ignorant, treasonous, gullible, conspiracy theorists shouting their rage against everything and everyone who doesn't buy into their increasingly desperate sounding drivel.

    When shit gets real, the conservatives will exterminate faggot scum like you, like the subhuman cockroaches you are.

    One bullet per liberal. Are you ready ? Because WE ARE.

    By the way How is the greeter job going at WalMart? Good? Hope so!

  72. Re: Any New Info? by basecastula+ · · Score: 1

    Someone has to take responsibility, and it seems as though he's the only adult in the room as it were. .

    Man, that is rich.

  73. Abyss? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What did they think the Abyss was going to to?

    You went tilting at windmills, found dragons, but did it in a way that you've got no public support.

    Good luck with that.

  74. Re: Any New Info? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, you completely missed Trump explicitly stating that it was his shutdown?

    The one that Trump was not-so-subtly walked into by Chuck and Nancy (who, once Trump announced it, asked again to get the recording clear)? Pelosi and Schumer, once they heard those words, knew that they could do the shutdown on their terms and refuse to start the gov't back up. They are loving the shutdown because they planned it, and tricked a poor little orange idiot into taking the blame. And they've tricked all their supporters into thinking Trump is the evil mastermind. Sad.

  75. Re: If the Democrats weren't so corrupt... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've always figured the Republican's email contained boring stuff about legally raising money, getting the base out and the other things that any legally run campaign is likely to be emailing each other about. As opposed to the Democrats which outlined how they intended to disenfranchise Sander's supporters and rig the primary so Clinton would win.

    Yep if you don't break the law and you aren't corrupt it's probably ok if your emails get released. I know my work emails would put most people to sleep.

  76. Re: Any New Info? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A shithole nation? You do realize Puerto Rico is part of the USA, right?