Apple Maps Gooses DuckDuckGo In Search Privacy Partnership (cnet.com)
Search engine DuckDuckGo now displays location information from Apple Maps in its search results. "DuckDuckGo now uses Apple Maps both for small maps in location-related search results and for larger, interactive search results that appear in a separate maps tab," reports CNET. "That replaces a combination including MapBox, OpenStreetMap and homegrown technology." From the report: The top reason DuckDuckGo argues you should try it is that it doesn't keep any personal information on you and what you searched for, unlike search leader Google. That dovetails nicely with Apple's sustained push to improve online privacy. But maintaining your privacy can be tough when you're looking for location-related information. DuckDuckGo says it's struck a balance, though. It doesn't send personally identifiable information such as your computer's Internet Protocol network address, to Apple or other third parties, DuckDuckGo said. "For local searches, where your approximate location information is sent by your browser to us, we discard it immediately after use," the company added.
I would have preferred it if Duckduckgo had worked with Openstreetmap. If would have fitted their general self-declared ethics better methink.
So yeah, going to bed with Apple is better than integrating into the Google collective - although I don't believe Apple's good intentions for one second, and working with Google was never an option for DDG in the first place anyway. But it's kind of meh really...
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As much as I hate Google, I use Safari with private tab. In Safari private mode, each tab is a separate session. I use separate tab for google search where I don't log into any website. Also, typical lifetime of my tab is an hour or two. What does google do with my anonymous data collected from private tab? In addition, I use VPN which assigns me random ip every day. Not just Google, but I am anonymous everywhere where I don't log in. If at all I login, I use separate tabs for each website and kill the tab when done. So unless they fingerprint my browser, not much data collection can happen. Yes, I am anonymous coward!
I would have preferred it if Duckduckgo had worked with Openstreetmap. If would have fitted their general self-declared ethics better methink.
I think it fits in pretty well with general ethics, since Apple goes to great lengths to keep user data private.
If you compare the two on the web, Apple Maps performs somewhat better, and also presents store information better.
It's kind of an odd integration at the moment though, as you have to get to a map through DuckDuckGo, then once open there's no way to re-search the map you are viewing without going back to the DDG search screen.
Something interesting I saw also - when I searched fro a local Discount Tire, my iPhone revealed the correct location exactly, as did OpenStreetMaps (which you'd expect). But from Duck Duck Go, it was located on the wrong side of the service street it lies along... it kind of seems like maybe Duck Duck Go is just handing off a GPS location and not leaning on Apple Maps understanding of where businesses are really located.
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1) Seems to be slow, I doubt Apple have invested in the infrastructure to deliver fast tile results (to Thailand)
2) Scroll wheel zoom in/out not working (Apple 'bravery'?)
3) Double click zoom is linear speed, I'm use to it being parabolic, it feels more natural that way.
Like the clear colors
Like the rotate (via the N icon)
Like the clear labelling and visual cues (Google Maps for Phuket is so pale as to be unusable)
But the lack of mouse wheel zoom is a show stopper for me.
I don't see how there's a privacy issue there, I don't let the browser send location data, and that was the same as OpenStreetMaps.
I continue to use Here Maps.
http://maps.here.com
It remains my go to for mapping, route planning etc, including their app for car GPS.
Yeah, Apple has a sustained push to improve privacy. That's why they accepted money from Google to make its search the default. That way they get to trumpet loudly about having the moral high-ground, while still pocketing billions from their customers' personal data.
Too bad that Apple maps doesn't know about scroll wheels. I guess they don't have them on Macs.
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I think a lot of that's Google's bad choice in Android, if a mouse click isn't handled as a mouse click in Android apps, it isn't then treated as a touch,
So apps that would be trivially supported with mice, simply don't work. Including all those Google TV devices. (Pichai endlessly trying to turn ChromeOS into a win, at the expense of Android no doubt).
I like here maps, it works. My only issue with heremaps is that it pops up an advert for their Android and iOS apps, and most modern browsers block cookies, so it pops the advert up on every visit. It's annoying.
But scroll works, navigation is excellent, the map is readable, even with lots of minor roads and few features, like the center of Phuket, and it works well as offline navigation in the app, and online navigation in the website and tablet browsers.
I wish they'd offer free embedded maps for websites, because Google maps is starting to misbehave (e.g. "press ctrl scroll to zoom" ), which happens to be Firefox's *page* zoom..... why exactly do that?
Overall, I'm happier that DuckDuckGo use Apple maps rather than Google maps.
So, why doesn't the scroll wheel work on the Apple Maps page?
of hundreds of DDG user getting lost when trying to get anywhere.
Just checked it out, and the actual map isnâ(TM)t showing anything here in NZ.
Goose (verb) refers to sticking one's finger up the rectum of another. And I can't believe this hasn't been commented on by someone else yet.
it's GRAY DUCK.
What does 'gooses' mean? Geese? Chooses? What?
Duck duck go's search results will be displayed thinner font.
The premise that DDG operates under negates it from working with apple.
This report renders DDGs arguments of free and uncompromised searches invalid whehter this goes forward or not.
Or more simply: "What could possibly go wrong?"
Not really that important. What is important is if the maps scrolling on the website work with Mac running MacOS with an Apple mouse? If this doesn't work as well, then it's a bit shabby.