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Federal Prosecutors Pursuing Criminal Case Against Huawei for Alleged Theft of Trade Secrets: Report (wsj.com)

Federal prosecutors are pursuing a criminal investigation of China's Huawei for allegedly stealing trade secrets from U.S. business partners, including the technology behind a robotic device that T-Mobile used to test smartphones, WSJ reported Wednesday. From a report: The investigation grew in part out of civil lawsuits against Huawei, including one in which a Seattle jury found Huawei liable for misappropriating robotic technology from T-Mobile's Bellevue, Wash., lab, the people familiar with the matter said. The probe is at an advanced stage and could lead to an indictment soon, they said. The link to the source article may be paywalled; here's an alternative source.

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  1. China is a big problem by Spy+Handler · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here's a pretty good CNBC article about Silicon Valley execs secretly agreeing with Trump's hardline stance on China. Keep in mind, SV tech execs tend to be pretty liberal and CNBC is a part of NBC News so they're well left of center as well.

    "If we're ever going to do anything about China, this is the perfect time. If we're ever going to stop them from forcing our companies into dubious joint ventures that represent ridiculous technology transfers and often outright theft, this is the moment."

    1. Re:China is a big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Trump isn't taking a "hardline" stance on China, Trump is a bullshitter pretending to act hard hoping China will blink first. China plays the long game and will easily, easily outlast that nitwit's attention span. Plus, Trump is prison bound.

      So there's that.

    2. Re: China is a big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With the government shut down, what is he even president of?

    3. Re:China is a big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And yet China doesn't really seem to care because they know they can outlast Trump and his boneheaded tarrifs.

    4. Re: China is a big problem by Desler · · Score: 0

      Fast food?

    5. Re:China is a big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "while the Right tends to favor free trade" - bullshit.

    6. Re:China is a big problem by Desler · · Score: 2

      while the Right tends to favor free trade ... so this is a case of leftists being leftists.

      I didn't realize that Larry Kudlow and Trump were leftists. Guess you learn something new every day.

    7. Re:China is a big problem by Desler · · Score: 0

      Exactly. Just like how the Right is supposedly fiscally conservative. That must be why deficits have exploded under 2 years of Republicans controlling every lever of government. It's amazing how easily the Republican party has duped people like ShanghaiBill with empty soundbites.

    8. Re:China is a big problem by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 0

      I didn't realize that Larry Kudlow and Trump were leftists. Guess you learn something new every day.

      Trumpism is an amalgam of the stupidest ideas from both left and right. His protectionist views on trade were a big reason for the "Never Trump" movement by traditional conservatives.

      Bernie's support for protectionism was very popular with the left.

    9. Re:China is a big problem by Desler · · Score: 1

      Oh and let's not forget the 2002 Chinese steel tariffs and from renowned "leftist" George W. Bush.

    10. Re:China is a big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      while the Right tends to favor free trade ...

      putting up a wall to restrict the flow of labor is "free trade"???

    11. Re:China is a big problem by Spy+Handler · · Score: 1

      well the actual point of the article is that SV tech exec are usually Trump hating liberals whose normal reaction to anything Trump does is to oppose it.

      I inserted that "CNBC is left of center" thing just to reinforce my point that CNBC also has no love for Trump and if they're actually agreeing with Trump on something, it's gotta be a lot more credible than if, say, Fox News or some other Trump-loving entity was publishing it.

    12. Re:China is a big problem by Desler · · Score: 1

      Trumpism is an amalgam of the stupidest ideas from both left and right. His protectionist views on trade were a big reason for the "Never Trump" movement by traditional conservatives.

      So Dubya was a Trumpist when he levied steel tariffs in 2002?

      Bernie's support for protectionism was very popular with the left.

      Yes, so popular that none of his ideas have ever been implemented.

    13. Re:China is a big problem by Desler · · Score: 1

      ShanghaiBill doesn't let facts get in his way.

    14. Re:China is a big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Orange Man Bad!

    15. Re:China is a big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bernie didn't support protectionism as much as he supported enforcing tax, labor and environmental standards on manufacturers of US sold products. Entirely different, your dithering nonwithstanding.

    16. Re:China is a big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Free trade is not about the flow of labor, it is about the flow of products. Labor can still enter through a legal port of entry with a valid visa and work permit. We are simply making it hard for scum to get in.

    17. Re:China is a big problem by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      Um, the mainstream of both parties favor free trade. It is the extremes of both parties that are isolationist (and delusional).

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    18. Re:China is a big problem by Desler · · Score: 0

      We are simply making it hard for scum to get in.

      Yeah like the Irish and Italian scum. Oh and before that the Chinese scum.

      You know-nothing, nationalists can't ever seem to make up your mind on who the "scum" is supposed to be.

    19. Re:China is a big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Putting up a wall to restrict the flow of labor is "retardation". If they were serious about controlling illegal labor they'd require all employers to start using eVerify, and get some enforcement going on. It'd cost a lot less than 5 billion. The problem there is when you effectively control illegal labor, employers in some sectors can no longer cheat people out of their wages. Golly gee... we can't have that.

    20. Re:China is a big problem by Desler · · Score: 1

      But then how would Trump's US golf courses be able to keep hiring undocumented workers?

    21. Re:China is a big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      100% agree. China has only risen on the back of America (and other western countries') stolen IP. A PLA APT group had Nortel hacked for almost a decade and was exfiltrating trade secrets. Huawei founder ex-PLA. Hmm..

    22. Re:China is a big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Other countries are only problems because YOU MAKE THEM INTO PROBLEMS. The world is not your enemy. Curb your flippant paranoia.

    23. Re:China is a big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That must be why deficits have exploded under 2 years of Republicans controlling every lever of government.

      I don't know if I'd say they "exploded". Deficit spending is high, but not the highest it has ever been. last year deficit spending accounted for 3.4% of the GDP, by comparison, deficit spending accounted for 9.8%, 8.6%, and 8.3% in 2009, 2010, 2011 respectively. Those were the last years that the Democrats controlled both chambers of congress.

      source

    24. Re:China is a big problem by Desler · · Score: 1

      And yet while Democrats were still controlling at least the Senate the deficit as a percentage of GDP went down every year until 2015 when Republicans took over both chambers. From 2015 to 2018 under full
      Republican control, deficit spending in amount of dollars has nearly doubled ($438 billion to $833 billion) and has grown about 60% percentage of GDP (2.4% to 4.0%) has gone up every year.

      Strange how you conveniently left that part out from your link.

    25. Re:China is a big problem by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      So Dubya was a Trumpist when he levied steel tariffs in 2002?

      GWB was widely criticized for the steel tariffs by Republicans and many Democrats praised him. Dick Gephardt, the Democratic leader in the house, criticized him for not going far enough. You can read more here: Political response to 2002 steel tariffs.

      He didn't implement the tariffs out of ideology, but was trying to swing Pennsylvania to red in 2004. He still lost the state by 2%.

    26. Re:China is a big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you're saying the Bush wars and concurrent GOP tax cuts for the richest/corporations weren't the reason, it was something the Democrats in Congress did as a matter of their party policy? An interesting lie, thanks.

    27. Re:China is a big problem by Desler · · Score: 1

      GWB was widely criticized for the steel tariffs by Republicans and many Democrats praised him.

      And outside of whinging what did they actually do?

      He didn't implement the tariffs out of ideology, but was trying to swing Pennsylvania to red in 2004. He still lost the state by 2%.

      Duh. That was my whole point. You tried to tie tariffs to Trumpist ideology or to leftists yet a "mainstream" Republican president was just as happy to levy them when it was politically convenient.

    28. Re: China is a big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is generally true, but not universally. The current US administration is generally considered to be politically to the right, yet it is quite protectionist and almost hostile to free trade.

    29. Re:China is a big problem by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Bernie didn't support protectionism as much as he supported enforcing tax, labor and environmental standards on manufacturers of US sold products.

      Expecting Bangladesh to adhere to American labor standards is absurd, and demanding that they do so is tantamount to just shutting them down, hurting the very people that Bernie hypocritically claimed to be helping. Free trade has brought prosperity to billions of desperately poor people.

    30. Re:China is a big problem by Desler · · Score: 1

      Also, the poster conveniently omitted that every year of full Republican control of Congress from 2015 to 2018 saw increases in deficit spending year-over-year. It's almost as if deficit spending is only bad when Democrats are in charge.

    31. Re:China is a big problem by Desler · · Score: 2

      Sort of like expecting China to adhere to American standards on IP law?

    32. Re:China is a big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's amazing how one cherry picked moment suddenly becomes a political standard, according to your bullshit opine anyway...

    33. Re:China is a big problem by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1, Troll

      Um, the mainstream of both parties favor free trade.

      This is not supported by evidence:

      NAFTA Vote:
      Republican: 132 yes, 43 no
      Democratic: 102 yes, 156 no

      CAFTA Vote:
      Republican 202 yes, 27 no
      Democratic 15 yes, 187 no

    34. Re:China is a big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The point being made is that the right is more fiscally conservative than the left. Even with the recent increase in deficit spending, Republican Congress are historically more conservative than Democrats. Reasonable people can disagree on what an "exploding" deficit is.

    35. Re:China is a big problem by lgw · · Score: 1

      Do you imagine Trump is against free trade? He's getting the Chinese to lower their barriers to free trade. Negotiation is not isolationism. Purely one-sided tariffs are not free trade.

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    36. Re:China is a big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the poster also conveniently omitted how the republican congress from 1998-2001 had no deficit spending. situations change, it's stupid to compare era's this way.

    37. Re:China is a big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's a lot of BS with respect to China and IP violations.
      The vast majority of companies complaining about Chinese companies making products that violate their "IP" never bothered to patent their shit in China. It is not the Chinese government's problem to uphold US/EU patents in their own country. It's not even a problem at all.
      Now, as soon as they try to import their IP violating products into a country where it's patented it becomes a problem but that's not China's problem either.

    38. Re:China is a big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. So pretending NOW that conservatism is a bastion of fiscal responsibility in this country, as we enter month 2 of a shutdown over bullshit held hostage, with all the extra costs associated there...
      it's neo-Conservatism to lie transparently now and not give a fuck about facts, IMO. They just fall in line like good little nazis. Little do they realize they're the fuel, not the cargo in their cult.

    39. Re:China is a big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This article is so anti-Chinese and jingoistic it isn't funny. China offers very reasonable stipulations for working on their soil. A domestic interest owns a mere 51% of all ventures, and the Chinese government has employees on company board with deciding authorities. Compared to the Draconian hoops of what what the evil US or Europe demands, this is nothing. China has nothing like the GDPR or Sarbanes Oxley, for example.

    40. Re:China is a big problem by Desler · · Score: 1

      The point being made is that the right is more fiscally conservative than the left.

      So that's why Ronald Reagan added 6 times as much to the national debt as his predecessor? Or how Reagan, Bush and Bush Jr. all added more to the debt than under Clinton? Even more funny since Bush Sr. was in office half as long as Clinton.

      Even with the recent increase in deficit spending, Republican Congress are historically more conservative than Democrats. Reasonable people can disagree on what an "exploding" deficit is.

      So conservative that deficits have gone up nearly 100% in dollar amount more than 60% as a percent of GDP. Yep sounds real "fiscally conservative."

    41. Re:China is a big problem by Desler · · Score: 1

      So their lowering barriers by enacting higher tariffs against US goods and buying soybeans, amongst other food crops, from other countries? Are you an idiot or really that delusional?

    42. Re:China is a big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How has China lowered any barriers? If China was lowering barriers, why did the Republicans pass legislation to give away huge handouts to soybean farmers last year who could no longer can sell their crops in China competitively because of increased import duties?

      Must be due to all that winning, right?

      Oh wait, all that winning is the Brazillian soybean farmers.

      https://www.forbes.com/sites/s...

    43. Re:China is a big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      trump campaigned on a border wall and was elected. the wall was the focal point of his campaign, I doubt his supports give EF about the shutdown, they just want their dumb wall.

    44. Re:China is a big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      China is no worse than any other country out there. You're a pussy.

    45. Re:China is a big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      China is faggot shit, you should hang next to Trump faggot traitor.

    46. Re:China is a big problem by lgw · · Score: 0

      This is what negotiation looks like. You want them to lower their tariffs, you must provide sufficient carrots or sticks to incentivize that change. By raising tariffs on stuff they'd really like to sell here, we create that incentive. We tried asking nicely, now it's on to the next strategy.

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    47. Re:China is a big problem by gordguide · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There's a lot of BS with respect to China and IP violations.
      The vast majority of companies complaining about Chinese companies making products that violate their "IP" never bothered to patent their shit in China. It is not the Chinese government's problem to uphold US/EU patents in their own country. It's not even a problem at all.
      Now, as soon as they try to import their IP violating products into a country where it's patented it becomes a problem but that's not China's problem either.

      China is a signatory member of the World Trade Association.

      Association members are required to enforce all IP of other association member countries, so a US Patent is effectively a China Patent as well.

    48. Re:China is a big problem by gordguide · · Score: 1

      How has China lowered any barriers? If China was lowering barriers, why did the Republicans pass legislation to give away huge handouts to soybean farmers last year who could no longer can sell their crops in China competitively because of increased import duties?

      Must be due to all that winning, right?

      Oh wait, all that winning is the Brazillian soybean farmers.

      https://www.forbes.com/sites/s...

      China has recently lowered tariffs on all automobiles manufactured elsewhere. I suppose it's not "lowering any barriers" if it applies to every nation and not only the United States?

    49. Re:China is a big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So that's why Ronald Reagan added 6 times as much to the national debt as his predecessor?

      The Democrats controlled that congress. Every congress has added to the deficit, so it is dishonest to suggest one side is free of responsibility for the HUGE national debt. But if we're being partisan, Obama contributed a 300% increase to the % of GDP, the largest in history, so I would hope that the number only went down from there.

    50. Re: China is a big problem by edris90 · · Score: 1

      If you don't want to share your intellectual property, don't do business in China it's that simple. Chinese government is smart to require you two agree to let them assimilate your IP if you want to do business in their country. It nips in the bud all that I invented it first, no I did lawsuit bullshit... Watching us use the concept of IP to fuck each other over and reward the worst event alities,. they found a way to do business without opening themselves up to the same exploitation.. Don't hate on China just because they're smart enough to make foreigners give up control in order to gain access to their Market. Thats How you keep your sovereignty intact, as opposed to bled out to foreign interests

    51. Re:China is a big problem by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      It's amazing how one cherry picked moment suddenly becomes a political standard

      I didn't pick it, and it is an exception rather than the rule. Republicans generally support free trade, Democrats generally don't.

      NAFTA Vote:
      Republican: 132 yes, 43 no
      Democratic: 102 yes, 156 no

      CAFTA Vote:
      Republican 202 yes, 27 no
      Democratic 15 yes, 187 no

      Believe it or not, there are actual differences between left and right. It is astounding how many people don't know what those differences are.

    52. Re: China is a big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which is rather pointless considering how much scum there already is in the USA.

    53. Re:China is a big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When did the Democrats become left?

    54. Re: China is a big problem by houghi · · Score: 1

      Wair, so now patenrs are a goid thing on /'? I thought they where heroes bfecause where ignoring the patents.

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    55. Re:China is a big problem by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      That's also why China is creating so many patents. They see how they get abused and figure the best way to fight back is just patent everything and play the litigation game. Doubtless there is some equivalent of the East Texas court in China that finds US companies in infringement every time.

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    56. Re:China is a big problem by Freischutz · · Score: 1

      Trump isn't taking a "hardline" stance on China, Trump is a bullshitter pretending to act hard hoping China will blink first. China plays the long game and will easily, easily outlast that nitwit's attention span. Plus, Trump is prison bound.

      So there's that.

      Is that his strategy? I always figured his strategy was to get in China's face until a Chinese state bank suddenly invests a ton of cash into one of his ventures, at which point he would cave in to China on something China wants like he did over ZTE after the Chinese state suddenly loaned his developers $500 million to build his Lido city project. Transactional foreign policy ... the Trump presidency is beginning to remind me of the Roman Republic during the Jugurthine war: Rome is a city for sale and doomed to destruction if it ever finds a buyer.

    57. Re:China is a big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Orange Man Bad! You do realize that just about every developed nation has protectionist policies in place right? This is especially true in Europe where they have massive protectionist systems to preserve industries that on their own would have died out decades ago. This is a common and accepted practice and is carried out for many reasons. But somehow when America does it everyone throws a fit and acts like its stupid. We have gone a long time with low tariffs because we had a policy of trading money for influence across the world post WW2. That policy has taken us as far as it possibly can. I think it probably did that in the early 90's actually. And the whole time we've been losing jobs and wealth. It's time to go back to conventional trade deals like everyone else is successful with.

      So far I think he has been successful. The last guy said we weren't getting jobs back. New steel factories are opening now.

    58. Re:China is a big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can do your best to make them adhere to it while expecting that they wont. That's essentially what all of this is about when you get down to it. Chinese culture does not respect the work of others like the western world does. And they have no intention of changing. So we have to make them change. You cannot be a player on the global economy and rip everyone off. Nobody will want to trade with you. And if china doesn't shape up then that, combined with other things is probably whats going to happen. Mass tariffs from western nations all but banning Chinese goods.

    59. Re:China is a big problem by DigressivePoser · · Score: 1

      Both parties are responsible for the huge debt and there is no disincentive, short of financial collapse, to keep these politicians from spending and spending. As long as their pet pork projects and policy objectives are funded, there's no way the debt will be paid back. And forget about a balanced budget constitutional amendment being introduced in congress. That would be like an alcoholic wanting to bring back prohibition. The amendment would have to be drafted in a constitutional convention by the states - which by law must have balanced budgets. I'm willing to bet 3/4th of the states would ratify it. We'd just have to be wary of some states trying to introduce nonsensical amendments during the process.

    60. Re: China is a big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wair, so now patenrs are a goid thing on /'? I thought they where heroes bfecause where ignoring the patents.

      software patents are patents on math, which is rubbish. patents for physical inventions are good, and they actually foster innovation and become public domain in a reasonable timeframe unlike current copyright.

    61. Re:China is a big problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why hasn't anybody mentioned Obama yet.

  2. Why is Vladimir Putin defending Trump suddenly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why is Putin suddenly opining that Trump helping advance Russian interests, including removing sanctions on Derepaska and vowing to get rid of the Magnitsky Act, is somehow "stupid"?

    What's stupid is that Trump supporters are pretending the traitor had no deals with Russia, like he repeatedly claimed, and as we know is dead false.

    1. Re:Why is Vladimir Putin defending Trump suddenly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So point to some evidence to back up your bullshit.

  3. Seems reasonable by JoeyRox · · Score: 2

    They didn't criminally prosecute the financial industry for blatant fraud that lead to the loss of trillions of dollars of wealth and almost destroyed the economy but they're going after a company for allegedly stealing the technology that drop-tests $200 smartphones.

    1. Re:Seems reasonable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's to criminally prosecute? The court already looked into the case. T-mobile alleged $500M in damages. The court awarded them a mere $5M.

      I thought the Chinese were incapable of anything, and their government was complete crap with inefficiencies. Why does it seem like the US is so damn scared of Huawei.

    2. Re:Seems reasonable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They didn't criminally prosecute the financial industry for blatant fraud that lead to the loss of trillions of dollars of wealth and almost destroyed the economy but they're going after a company for allegedly stealing the technology that drop-tests $200 smartphones.

      The American public is either extremely ignorant or just very tolerant of corruption at senior levels in their government, and of massive problems in legal ethics in the US legal system (these two problems are closely related, of course - but either one can cause inconsistencies in prosecution).

      The financial industry bought its way out of this. The Chinese will as well.

      Invest in America, buy a politician. Remember, it's not a bribe, it's a campaign contribution, no matter what logic or reason may have to say.

    3. Re:Seems reasonable by hackingbear · · Score: 1

      Neither they filed criminal suit against Steve Job (who misappropriated secret from Xerox)

      As for this Huawei-T-Mobile case, how could one steal secret if he has signed the NDA and obtained the rights to that secret, as long as the secret is never reviewed to 3rd party. In fact, that verdict was not about trade secret theft at all and only about contractual obligation:

      According to the jury’s verdict, T-Mobile was not awarded any damages relating to the trade secrets claim and there was no award of punitive damages. Although the jury awarded damages under the breach of contract allegation, the amount was a small fraction of what T-Mobile requested.

      Of course, in the current trade war, the US will abuse the law and find every possible way to launch PR actions against major Chinese companies.

    4. Re:Seems reasonable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Neither they filed criminal suit against Steve Job (who misappropriated secret from Xerox)

      That’s because It’s a myth. Apple didn’t steal any IP from Xerox, they were invited by Xerox and given a full demo of technologies they were working on. They expanded on ideas such as the GUI, making them into a marketable product with the Lisa and Macintosh, something that Xerox never did. I’ve never heard any reports of Xerox claiming that Apple stole anything from them.

      As compensation for sharing information with them, Apple allowed Xerox to purchase 100,000 pre-IPO Apple shares for $1M. Today that stock would be worth 900 times that.

    5. Re:Seems reasonable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They didn't criminally prosecute the financial industry for blatant fraud that lead to the loss of trillions of dollars of wealth and almost destroyed the economy but they're going after a company for allegedly stealing the technology that drop-tests $200 smartphones.

      The Chinese will likely be executing some dumb fucking Yanks in return, so at least the rest of us will get some solid entertainment from the whole affair. I wonder if they can be persuaded to start broadcasting them?

  4. Largest telecom company can't make "robot" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Little known fact that the world's largest manufacturer of full communication networks, and, soon to be, the biggest manufacturer of smartphones in the world, can't actually test their devices without having to first steal a "robot" from an American company. Yes, these accusations make a lot of sense.

    1. Re: Largest telecom company can't make "robot" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      T-Mobile is a German company, not an American company.

    2. Re:Largest telecom company can't make "robot" by Desler · · Score: 1

      Deutsche Telekom is an American company?

  5. Chinese govt still acting like 3rd world country by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    As long as they do, the WTO needs to treat them that way and remove "most favored nation" status, so that all deals with Chinese entities are much harder.
    Basically, the Chinese Govt needs to treat foreign companies exactly the same as local, Chinese companies and not demand technology transfer, partner Chinese companies, 51% Chinese ownership and selective enforcement must stop.

  6. Trump is a bankrupt hack, not a genius. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Trump is a traitor, fraud, obvious liar, daughter-luster, lech, groper, boaster, uneducated blatherer, and 6 time walking bankruptcy who pretends to have written a book that the actual author says he's lying about incompetently.

    SV liberals are in the business of making money, not supporting treasonous faggots who know nothing about it. FTFY. Even if Trump repeated a good idea, he'd fuck it up on the details. He's a fucking moron.

    Anyone supporting him is a fucking moron no matter what his position du jour is.

  7. USA stil acting like a dick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Basically, the Chinese Govt needs to treat foreign companies exactly the same as local, .

    yeah because americans treat chinese companies exactly like local ones

  8. wall will never be built, Trump will hang by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He campaigned on A: HRC locked up, B: Mexico paying C: Russia is our friend D: Corporations need huge tax cuts E: The environment should burn F: Coal is coming back G: He's a military genius

    Their wall will never be built, Trump will hang for treason.

    1. Re:wall will never be built, Trump will hang by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      he won't hang, you are an "orange man bad" idiot.

    2. Re:wall will never be built, Trump will hang by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  9. Greedy American companies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sure the Chinese are thieves but let us not forget that many US companies willingly shared trade secrets with the Communist to have access to their market and get cheap labor. US companies are not blameless.

  10. Too many shills redirecting topics to Trump hate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If it's one thing the Chinese have it is plenty of somewhat nimble fingers. Too bad they use them for stealing IP so much of the time instead of creating capital, ideas, or honest posts. Don't know why they would waste their time on Slashdot though; checking in here periodically only reinforces its loss of import.

  11. Re: Too many shills redirecting topics to Trump ha by edris90 · · Score: 1

    You can't steal what can't belong to anyone. Intellectual property is an Imagined concept, that logically destroys itself and is dependent upon blured context and condition Dogma, to be relatable. Nobody owns information,. but my buddies will fuck you up if you don't pretend I do. That's IP in a nutshell.

  12. Chinese listening devices by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So where are the Chinese government sponsored eavesdropping microchips that were planted in supermicro servers? or was it a story planted by someone else to divert attention from some country's own proven spying of their own citizens and allies?