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Singapore HIV Registry Data Leaked Online in Health Breach (bbc.com)
Confidential data about more than 14,000 people diagnosed with HIV, including foreign visitors, has been stolen in Singapore and leaked online. From a report: Authorities revealed details about the 2016 health data breach on Monday. They believe an HIV-positive American whose partner was a senior Singaporean doctor is behind the leak. The hack comes just months after the records of 1.5m Singaporeans, including Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong, were stolen last year. Confidential information including names, addresses, HIV status and other medical information is reportedly included in the latest breach. Officials say the details of 5,400 Singaporeans and 8,800 foreigners dating up to January 2013 have been compromised.
Data wants to be free. Everyone should assume that digital medical records have a non-zero chance of getting out. If you don't want your medical records online, don't agree to digital medical records.
The problem is that publicizing HIV+ people's names and info would discourage people at risk from being tested.
Iâ(TM)m straight and in a monogamous relationship. I still get tested once per year.
How about having them wear some mark on their clothing so we can better identify them?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Oh please, could you at least not shill in ONE thread?
Not that this thread was in any way important (wtf does this have to do with news for nerds?) but still, could you shill on Twitter like all the other assholes? Thanks.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Even at risk of death? People with HIV can lead a full life with proper treatment. Sounds like a fair deal to me. Government will provide for your treatment in exchange your status will be public for other people to make informed decisions.
It's well known that gays will lie about their HIV status.
As such, all who are HIV-positive should be on a list which can be accessed by anyone.
OK .. I'll run with this. Are we listing people with infectious disease that can kill? or just infectious diseases? or are we just listing STDs that can kill? Or just STDs that can't be cured? Or even just STDs? Would you want any of all of those conditions listed for you own health status to be publicly available? For instance, if you have ever had a cold sore, you technically are at risk for passing it as an STD as HSV-1 will happily live in the genital region and cause all sorts of fun and games.
And how are you going to securely tie a person you want to jump into bed with, with a collection of records in a DB somewhere? Oh, you looked up Fred A. Nurk, and you say he's HIV positive? Well I'm Fred B. Nurk .. totally safe .. now lets get at it!
It seems like your solution is going to involve back tattoos and listing out human readable codes that indicate current health status. And we all know how it worked out the last time that people were tattooed for identification.
And BTW how do you even deal with people who have no idea they are HIV positive and have never been tested?
And why are you singling out gays? HIV is not a "gay" disease.
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Iâ(TM)m straight and in a monogamous relationship. I still get tested once per year.
It sounds like you have trust issues :D
About 30 (sheesh that long!) years ago when I was dating I had an HIV test just as part of normal dating life - not that I was doing anything weird or risky, just being precautions and paranoid. When work wanted to get me a health insurance for some extended overseas trips one of the questions was have you ever had an HIV test. After that word came down to me via HR that the insurance company wanted an explanation as to why I had had an HIV test. I had to explain to them that this was basically the new norm in dating life. I was open and honest about it all, but boy was it embarrassing to deal with.
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AND in the usa risk them getting black listed form any health care.
They should have done that in the 1980s. HIV would be dead now. but only if they forced a tattoo as well.
Please tell me about your magical technology that could diagnose HIV in a timely manner. I'm sure the medical industry has totally been ignoring you.
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AND in the usa risk them getting black listed form any health care.
Healthcare? We have Healthcare in the US?
I thought we just had Walletcare*
*As in how can I drain your wallet today?
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You know, the Nazis had pieces of flair that they made the Jews wear.
So you want to put people with HIV in a death camp?
When your Godwin turns out to be a 'whoosh'?
This is an excellent response and a great example of why governments should have the bare minimum of power and authority to protect life, liberty, and property.
Most people that advocate for larger and more powerful government seem unable to think two steps ahead as to how that power and authority can be misused.
Government should be given authority to solve a problem ONLY after all other reasonable attempts at solving the problem have failed.
So we should tattoo TROLL across your forehead?
HIV these days is far from a death sentence - our modern HIV treatments are so effective that we've had to shut down HIV wards at hospitals because it's quite controllable and far from a death sentence. Back in the 80s, yeah, you may have had 5 years to live, now, you'll pretty much live to the end of your natural life. An incredible amount of research has been done on HIV which basically lead to this result (and the drugs are fairly low cost now too).
It's not highly contagious - you still need to share bodily fluids with someone to even have a chance of infection (HIV is still relatively fragile and cannot survive outside the body).
And yes, by law in most jurisdictions, if you're HIV positive, you have to notify everyone you have contact with sexually so they are informed. In fact, it's considered murder if you don't in a lot of places (despite the fact that yes, it's not actually a death sentence anymore).
Now, I suppose the interesting thing is this is Singapore, a country to which you'd expect to have very high safeguards against data attacks just because. Someone's likely going to get the death sentence for it I suspect as well as a general tightening of private data handling regulations.
Communicable diseases, especially incurable, lifelong and fatal ones (HIV) should be public knowledge!
If we don't have the temerity as a species/civilization to quarantine such individuals, at least let the public stay away from them on their own accord!
Sadly, there are far too many individuals who are terrified of such people. Lacking the capability to cope with their fear they then turn to violence and begin killing people. You can claim it's unrealistic but it's been proven time and time again that cowards inevitably do this.
Besides, if we're going to do this for communicable diseases like HIV, why not also have a list for all communicable diseases down to the specific mutation (not all variants are equal after all). We can all have a nice laugh as most of the nation's population have the history of their sexual partnerships exposed (via mapping mutations) and watch as it devolves into a list of shame, anger and disgust.
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
Look, Pelosi pulled off the largest theft in the 21st century. Obamacare had nothing to do with healthcare. It was all about Pelosi paying off certain funders.
But you never registered your n1gger when you got it, so why should a gay have to register his aids when he got that?
Communicable diseases, especially incurable, lifelong and fatal ones (HIV) should be public knowledge!
I see on your public record you have type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, and genetic predisposition to prostate cancer. I think I will hire that other less qualified candidate that doesn't have life expectancy in low single digits.
The problem is that publicizing HIV+ people's names and info would discourage people at risk from being tested.
Your application to move to China has been approved.
The problem is that publicizing HIV+ people's names and info would discourage people at risk from being tested.
Your application to move to China has been approved.
Apologies... I meant to reply to OP... I'm an idiot!
You know what else should be public knowledge? Incel lists. I demand compulsory virginity testing for all white males over the age of 13 so we can keep our women and children safe from those monsters.
It's well known that gays will lie about their HIV status. As such, all who are HIV-positive should be on a list which can be accessed by anyone.
And BTW how do you even deal with people who have no idea they are HIV positive and have never been tested?
A bigger problem than the anonymous coward you quoted seems to be aware of. Someone who doesn't know they are HIV+ you cannot be treated. Most people who are are aware of their HIV+ status and treated eventually become undetectable, and the consensus is that undetectable is effectively untransmittable (see: "people who take ART daily as prescribed and achieve and maintain an undetectable viral load have effectively no risk of sexually transmitting the virus to an HIV-negative partner").
The risk is much greater from someone who says they're "negative" but only because they've never been tested. As bad of an idea as the poster's "list" would be anyway, it has no chance of helping here, where the greater danger lies.
R.Mo
This!
If you collect it, it will eventually be misused. Have you been reading all the "Privacy policy updates" you get sent lately? Someday they can just say "Forget what we told you about not sharing it, we now are selling access to your data to the highest bidder!" and you'd never know if you don't read those things. Remember, in most cases YOU and information about you are the product.
That way it cannot possibly be your fault for collecting all that data in the first place.
I always register my n1gg3rs after I buy them. I run a lawful sweat shop.
The list is likely of individuals that are in all likelihood undetectable. As you cite, the great danger is the person that doesn't get tested, or worse, showing no symptoms, doesn't care.
Drug users are rarer in Singapore, but it's a place that's highly transient in nature, and sex-work and LGBTQ+ activities are driven more underground than in other places.
All this said, shaming individuals with HIV is plainly wrong.
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Everyone involved in that story sound like grade-A arseholes, including yourself.
You don't need to engage in "risky" behaviour to catch HIV, just have penetrative sex with someone who has it. That's it.
HIV is part of my standard STD checks that I get when I change partner and we want to go off condoms and stay exclusive. It's standard procedure everywhere in the modern world.
Having done this in most 1st world countries, the only country that getting an STD test was difficult and awkward was the USA.
Btw, when insurance starts asking questions like "have you ever been tested" it is a huge red flag that they have over stepped any legitimate risk assessment and are just taking the piss. Next time tell 'em to get fucked - you end up travelling without insurance, so what, you'll be more of a human being for it.
Personally I think the AC was/is (dare I say it?) butt-hurt about something to do with gays and was merely trolling (and has no idea of the real world or even cares about it). Normally I wouldn't reply to such a comment but today was his/her lucky day.
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You don't have to have had a cold sore. 50%+ of the adult population harbours herpes simplex viruses. They're endemic.
Does Epstein-Barr virus (the cause of mono, the kissing disease) count as an STD? Something like 90%+ of the population has it.
Free tattoos for everybody!
So we should tattoo TROLL across your forehead?
Only if we can tattoo IDIOT across yours.
Why stop at public lists of diseases. Come on, let's put ALL private personal information online, after all, we cannot tell which item of one's personal life could have life-threatening implications for the rest of society. Personal privacy could well be considered a threat on par with terrorism.
Everyone involved in that story sound like grade-A arseholes, including yourself.
You, clearly, are always looking for assholes.
Clench those sphincters, folks; this one's looking for a tight space to squeeze into...
Chipped or traditional iron branding? There are no blacksmiths left in my state, and it's hard to get number brand sets anymore. I'd lock the brands up in the main house, but I don't want to risk spreading disease. Chipping em might be the way to go. Makes it easier to track plus you can inject into certain appendages they don't want damaged and won't risk trying to remove the chip if they find out what it does.
Btw, when insurance starts asking questions like "have you ever been tested" it is a huge red flag that they have over stepped any legitimate risk assessment and are just taking the piss. Next time tell 'em to get fucked - you end up travelling without insurance, so what, you'll be more of a human being for it.
The original poster's name Ozpeter implies an Australian but the incident was 30 years ago. These days I suspect it may be unlawful to ask the question due to discrimination laws, but your suggestion that someone should travel without copious medical travel insurance, including full medical repatriation if needed, is just insane.
You're likely to find yourself in a bed in some Asian or American shithole hospital with a half-million dollar medical bill and no way to get home. I'm not sure about the US but some Asian countries won't let you leave until the bill is paid in full.
HIV these days is far from a death sentence .....
Another foolish reason to justify some feel good policy and keep the queers happy. HIV is not the death sentence that it used to be. It can be controlled with very aggressive and expensive drug treatment therapies. Even with modern drug treatments is still both financially and physically devastating on the victim. Very few can afford these treatments so it becomes a burden on the public to pay for them.
So your argument that we should let AIDS status stay private is because its no more a health issue than the common cold is pure idiocy. Simply making HIV results public would dramatically decrease spread.
Just to make sure we understand where I stand on the privacy of HIV patients. Fuck their privacy.
Clearly you've never been to Singapore.
Which has more power: the hammer, or the anvil?
Sex work is definitely not underground in Singapore. See Orchard Towers and many other locations.
You don't say, gee, why didn't I think of this when making this comment?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
There's a couple of problems associated with this.
First of all, it was initially considered a "gay pest". So a lot of people had zero problem with the problem just spreading, hoping that it would only kill the fags. Yes, including the dimwit politicians in power back then. Only very, very slowly it dawned on them that the scientists examining the virus ain't all liberal gay lovers but do actually warn of a real threat for everyone around (why, you thought people were smarter in the 80s?). So if you want to find someone to blame, how about the bigoted dimwits that did what they could to halt research and warnings back when they could have done some good?
Second, HIV has an insanely long latency period between infection and the first signs of AIDS. We're talking years here. Decades sometimes. So giving everyone showing symptoms of AIDS some sort of marker is ludicrous. Even the distance between infection and the first signs of antibodies is long enough that a lot of people can get infected. Not to mention that your idea would make people additionally reluctant to get tested in the first place.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
They let in people with HIV?
It's a very right-wing, conservative nation, so the chances are that the majority of the population are already molesting their children.
Communicable diseases, especially incurable, lifelong and fatal ones (HIV) should be public knowledge!
If we don't have the temerity as a species/civilization to quarantine such individuals, at least let the public stay away from them on their own accord!
Not stopping HIV in its tracks in the 1980s was the genesis of the entire SJW movement.
The condition that this really needs to happen with is autism. We need a register of disgusting fascist nerds so that they can be more easily genocided whenever they finally make it necessary.
Do you agree zidium?
Well that didn't take long, getting modded so far down that people can't read what you said. Here let me help you there.
In a sane and sensible post that SJW don't want you to read zidium said.
Communicable diseases, especially incurable, lifelong and fatal ones (HIV) should be public knowledge! If we don't have the temerity as a species/civilization to quarantine such individuals, at least let the public stay away from them on their own accord! Not stopping HIV in its tracks in the 1980s was the genesis of the entire SJW movement.
You have a people that agree with you zidium. Your post was right on target, even if some SJW fools want to make sure it never sees the light of day.
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The fact that you like to stick a gerbil up your ass
Faggots are disgusting creatures.
According to this article "the MOH (Singapore Ministry of Health) revealed that some 1,900 names in the leaked data were of people who had already died."
Out of 14,200.
In the Singapore Ministry Of Health official news are the Additional Safeguards in Disease Registries :
(13.) Since 2016, additional safeguards against mishandling of information by authorised staff have been put in place. For example, a two-person approval process to download and decrypt Registry information was implemented in September 2016, to ensure that the information cannot be accessed by a single person. A workstation specifically configured and locked down to prevent unauthorised information removal was designated for processing of sensitive information from the HIV Registry. The use of unauthorised portable storage devices on official computers was disabled in MOH in 2017, as part of a government-wide policy.