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12-Year-Old Boy Reportedly Builds A Nuclear Fusion Reactor (theguardian.com)

An anonymous reader quotes the Guardian: An American 14-year-old has reportedly become the youngest known person in the world to create a successful nuclear reaction. The Open Source Fusor Research Consortium, a hobbyist group, has recognised the achievement by Jackson Oswalt, from Memphis, Tennessee, when he was aged 12 in January 2018....

The enterprising teenager said he transformed an old playroom in his parents' house into a nuclear laboratory with $10,000 (£7,700) worth of equipment that uses 50,000 volts of electricity to heat deuterium gas and fuse the nuclei to release energy. "The start of the process was just learning about what other people had done with their fusion reactors," Jackson told Fox. "After that, I assembled a list of parts I needed. I got those parts off eBay primarily and then oftentimes the parts that I managed to scrounge off of eBay weren't exactly what I needed. So I'd have to modify them to be able to do what I needed to do for my project...."

[S]cientists are likely to remain sceptical until Oswalt's workings are subject to verification from an official organisation and are published in an academic journal. Still, the teenager may now have usurped the previous record holder, Taylor Wilson, who works in nuclear energy research after achieving fusion aged 14.

153 comments

  1. Who is Stoopider? by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 0

    General media for reporting the preposterous, or, Slashdot editors for even considering it?

    1. Re: Who is Stoopider? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It isn't preposterous, this is easy, literally anyone can follow directions.

      Now if it were rocket science...

    2. Re: Who is Stoopider? by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 1

      Well, its not really a reactor if it can't sustain a reaction.

    3. Re:Who is Stoopider? by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      No, it's you.

      Teens do build fusors, look it up. Very doable.

    4. Re: Who is Stoopider? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      No, that would make it not a "sustainable reactor" - which nobody claimed it to be.

    5. Re: Who is Stoopider? by hey! · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think the term "reactor" came from chemical engineering, meaning a vessel in which a *reaction* takes place. So in that sense, what was built was a "reactor".

      In a nuclear fission context, it implies a device capable of supporting a sustained and controllable reaction, in which sense this is *not* a "reactor".

      But by that criteria, there are no nuclear fusion reactors in the world. It's not unusual for fusion researchers to call fusion devices such as tokamaks or magnetic mirrors "reactors", even though they cannot sustain a reaction. So in that sense it *is* a "reactor".

      It's less important what you call a thing as being clear what you mean, which of course in an age where most news sources have shed their science desks in favor of opinion journalism is a rare thing.

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    6. Re:Who is Stoopider? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'd say you, for jumping to a conclusion about something you don't know anything about. That's kind of the definition of stupidity.

      Creating a fusion reactor isn't particularly hard, and many, many people have done it. The cheap and easy fusor design doesn't produce usable energy, however, and that's why it's only used for research, or as a cheap Neutron source. The design goes back to the same guy who invented television, Philo T Farnsworth.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor

      It's fine to not know about the Fusor and how easy it is to build a fusion reactor. It's not fine and rather stupid to tell other people it can't possibly be true.

    7. Re: Who is Stoopider? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      AFAIK it DOES sustain a reaction. It just doesn't produce more energy than it consumes, so it's not a source of energy.

    8. Re:Who is Stoopider? by Immerman · · Score: 3, Informative

      Indeed. It doesn't even take $10,000 - you can build a fusor with less than $500 worth of second-hand equipment. Handy if you need a convenient neutron source, or a bad case of radiation poisoning, but not much else.

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    9. Re:Who is Stoopider? by Mashiki · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Oh come on. Nobody even goes to raid smoke detectors for radioactive material, you can buy plutonium off the shelf and order deuterium oxide right from Canada. Pure do it yourself kit.

      I'm pretty sure the do-it-yourself kit also includes radiation poisoning, shorter life span, and investigation by a nuclear regulatory agency since the persons involved would be glowing to the radiation detectors in pretty much any western city...especially since a simple radioactive dye will trip them.

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    10. Re:Who is Stoopider? by crunchygranola · · Score: 5, Informative

      ... you can buy plutonium off the shelf ...

      Where? The only commercial source of plutonium I have ever heard of are ionization smoke detectors (like the KV-1) sold in the Soviet Union, but apparently not made in decades. These don't show up on eBay much (I check from time to time). List a source, or you are blowing smoke.

      and order deuterium oxide right from Canada.

      I don't know of a regular commercial Canadian source (isotope vendors usually don't sell to the public), do you? If so, list them here. I do know of a U.S. source though, United Nuclear, as far as I know this where all fusor makers get their material (and where I got mine).

      I'm pretty sure the do-it-yourself kit also includes radiation poisoning, shorter life span, and investigation by a nuclear regulatory agency since the persons involved would be glowing to the radiation detectors in pretty much any western city...especially since a simple radioactive dye will trip them.

      Not with a Farnsworth Fusor. These only put out a few million neutrons a second. Assuming a high performing unit with 10 million, that is 10,000,000 * 2.5 MeV * 1.6*10^-13 J/MeV = 4*10^-6 J/s. A rad is 0.01 J/kg of tissue, so a 50 kg kid would require 0.5 J to get a one rad whole body dose. If the actual absorption from the fusor were 10% of its emission (he isn't wrapped around it), then he would have to sit next to it for 2 weeks without a break to get to 1 rad exposure. Radiation poisoning (overt toxicity) sets in around 200 rads in a short period, no acute symptoms would show up if this is spread out over weeks, much less the 8 years of sitting next to the fusor he would need. He could get up to a 2000 rad lifetime exposure sitting next to it his whole life (80 years) but would never show radiation symptions. His cancer risk would be bumped a bit though.

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    11. Re:Who is Stoopider? by Megol · · Score: 1

      You for making noises without knowing shit.

    12. Re:Who is Stoopider? by Megol · · Score: 1

      Q:Do you understand what a fusor is?
      (A:No, no you don't)

    13. Re:Who is Stoopider? by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Q:Do you understand what a fusor is?

      A: Assumptions just make you look stupid.

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    14. Re: Who is Stoopider? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any corner drug store since 1984.

    15. Re:Who is Stoopider? by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      you can build a fusor with less than $500 worth of second-hand equipment. Handy if you need a convenient neutron source, or a bad case of radiation poisoning, but not much else.

      I think you'd have a hard job doing it for $500 unless you really REALLY knew what you were doing, that's a tight budget. I'd be surprised if you'd get anything like enough out of a $500 fusor to get radiation poisoning.

      You'd get a pretty glow and a few neutrons though.

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    16. Re: Who is Stoopider? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't worry, nobody looks stoopoopder than you.

    17. Re:Who is Stoopider? by Immerman · · Score: 1

      So what? Plutonium isn't appreciably radioactive. Deutrium is much more so, but still a mere trickle compared to what you'd get feeding from feeding it into a $300 fusor.

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    18. Re:Who is Stoopider? by sfcat · · Score: 1

      So what? Plutonium isn't appreciably radioactive. Deutrium is much more so, but still a mere trickle compared to what you'd get feeding from feeding it into a $300 fusor.

      Deutrium isn't radioactive. You are thinking of Tritium which has a half-life of only 12.3 years which makes it quite radioactive even though the small size of the Tritium nucleus makes the energy per decay event quite small. And Plutonium is very radioactive with a half-life of only 24k years and a huge atomic number so a large amount of energy released per decay event. Its even more dangerous than Uranium as its also water soluble and also a poison. Also, d-t (deutrium-tritium) fusion releases neutronic radiation which is hard to shield and tends to effect internal organs. There is nothing safe about trying to make this specific reaction at home. Deutrium-Boron fusion would be safe (no neutrons released) but it take quite a bit more energy to cause it to happen.

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    19. Re: Who is Stoopider? by TimMD909 · · Score: 1

      If only word problems in high school involved calculating how much radiation it would take to kill your lab partner or the teacher... We'd have a lot more and higher quality math and science students... Hmmm...

    20. Re:Who is Stoopider? by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      deuterium is in your tap water, another fun project for the enterprising high schooler

      https://kb.osu.edu/handle/1811...

    21. Re:Who is Stoopider? by Immerman · · Score: 1

      Quite so.

      Only I think you're thinking of protium-boron fusion being aneutronic, aka the p-B11 reaction. I'm not clear that D-B fusion is noteworthy path, but even if it is, you'd still be dealing with neutron-radiating D-D side reactions. Those side reactions put a damper on a lot of the otherwise promising aneutronic reactions.

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    22. Re: Who is Stoopider? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This was a D-T generator. Commercially these may be bought for ~$125k, and are used as industrial neutron sources for radiography. Not really that hard anymore...

    23. Re:Who is Stoopider? by quenda · · Score: 2

      ... you can buy plutonium off the shelf ...

      Where? The only commercial source of plutonium I have ever heard of are ionization smoke detectors (like the KV-1) sold in the Soviet Union, but apparently not made in decades.

      Yes, back in 1985, plutonium was available at every corner drugstore, but in 2019 it’s a little hard to come by.

    24. Re:Who is Stoopider? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... you can buy plutonium off the shelf ...

      Where? The only commercial source of plutonium I have ever heard of are ionization smoke detectors (like the KV-1) sold in the Soviet Union, but apparently not made in decades. These don't show up on eBay much (I check from time to time). List a source, or you are blowing smoke.

      and order deuterium oxide right from Canada.

      I don't know of a regular commercial Canadian source (isotope vendors usually don't sell to the public), do you? If so, list them here. I do know of a U.S. source though, United Nuclear, as far as I know this where all fusor makers get their material (and where I got mine).

      I'm pretty sure the do-it-yourself kit also includes radiation poisoning, shorter life span, and investigation by a nuclear regulatory agency since the persons involved would be glowing to the radiation detectors in pretty much any western city...especially since a simple radioactive dye will trip them.

      Not with a Farnsworth Fusor. These only put out a few million neutrons a second. Assuming a high performing unit with 10 million, that is 10,000,000 * 2.5 MeV * 1.6*10^-13 J/MeV = 4*10^-6 J/s. A rad is 0.01 J/kg of tissue, so a 50 kg kid would require 0.5 J to get a one rad whole body dose. If the actual absorption from the fusor were 10% of its emission (he isn't wrapped around it), then he would have to sit next to it for 2 weeks without a break to get to 1 rad exposure. Radiation poisoning (overt toxicity) sets in around 200 rads in a short period, no acute symptoms would show up if this is spread out over weeks, much less the 8 years of sitting next to the fusor he would need. He could get up to a 2000 rad lifetime exposure sitting next to it his whole life (80 years) but would never show radiation symptions. His cancer risk would be bumped a bit though.

      You are sounding to me right now as a member of some three letters agencies... Reveal the sources? Offering indications what to obtain? IT'S A TRAP BOYS !!!

    25. Re:Who is Stoopider? by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      ... you can buy plutonium off the shelf ...

      Where?

      It's used in things like neutron howitzers, you can buy up to 1 Ci 239Pu as part of a 239PuBe source if you meet the requirements and fill out the paperwork.

    26. Re: Who is Stoopider? by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 2

      Interesting to see how different media are reporting this, from the Weekly World News-worthy:

      Teen builds working nuclear fusion reactor

      to:

      Boy, 12, said to have created nuclear reaction

      by a media outlet with a science reporter who actually knows about science.

    27. Re:Who is Stoopider? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Drugstores owned by Libyan terrorists, maybe.

    28. Re: Who is Stoopider? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But they'll trade for nitro glycerin.

  2. What more proof do you need? by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1

    He aged two years in the last 13 months.

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    1. Re:What more proof do you need? by msmash · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Fair point, but consider this: He was 12 years, 11 months and a few days old at the end of January 2018. He turned 13 in February of last year. The Guardian story was published this week, so the kid had exactly a year (and a few days) to grow by one year. Which he did.

    2. Re:What more proof do you need? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      He aged two years in the last 13 months.

      Well if his birthday was within 1 month of the event then he would have had 2 birthdays in the interim 13 months.

    3. Re:What more proof do you need? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Half life!

  3. Clock Boy 2019 by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Funny

    The enterprising teenager said he transformed an old playroom in his parents' house into a nuclear laboratory with $10,000 (£7,700) worth of equipment that uses 50,000 volts of electricity to heat deuterium gas and fuse the nuclei to release energy.

    Also, he said he built a time machine in his garage based on a 1976 Toyota Corolla. The only problem was he couldn't get it up to 88 mph.

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    1. Re:Clock Boy 2019 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The enterprising teenager said he transformed an old playroom in his parents' house into a nuclear laboratory with $10,000 (£7,700) worth of equipment that uses 50,000 volts of electricity to heat deuterium gas and fuse the nuclei to release energy.

      Also, he said he built a time machine in his garage based on a 1976 Toyota Corolla. The only problem was he couldn't get it up to 88 mph.

      Imagine if he had used a 1976 Pinto.

    2. Re: Clock Boy 2019 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's the only model that works: you put the flux capacitor in place of the gas tank, and a rear-end collision sends you off into the continuum.

      But don't be like the last guy that showed up, remember your seatbelt.

    3. Re: Clock Boy 2019 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've gotten a '76 Corolla up to about 100mph before... down a slight grade on a freeway :)

      Felt like the thing might fall apart if I pushed it further... :)

    4. Re:Clock Boy 2019 by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      More to the point, he should've used a '72 Datsun

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  4. Conversation by techdolphin · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can see the conversation.

    "Hey Jackson, can you come out and play?"

    "Not right now. I'm building a fusion reactor."

    "Okay, maybe tomorrow."

  5. With a lot of help. Not enery positive. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, given *that* amount of opportunity and aid, we all can build non-energy-positive fusion reactors.

    Kids are not dumber than us, you know? They just have less experience. Add experienced wealthy parents, and they can do anything! That's why opportunities are so important.

    While we just had marbles and toilet paper rolls to play with. (Literally the indoor toys of my youth until I was 12 and got a shitty i8088 PC.)

  6. that's nothing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    every time creimer farts the pressure creates degenerate matter and the gamma ray bursts are visible from Tau Ceti V

  7. This is a fusor- yes, it involves fusion. by JoshuaZ · · Score: 5, Informative

    The device in question is a fusor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor which does involve actual nuclear fusion. They aren't easy to build but they do engage in actual fusion. They are used for a bunch of practical purposes, including as neutron generators. Hobbyists have built them before. Still, a 12 year old doing it is pretty impressive.

    1. Re: This is a fusor- yes, it involves fusion. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's impressive and laudable and Make made step by step instructions, so anyone can try their luck :

      https://makezine.com/projects/make-36-boards/nuclear-fusor/

    2. Re:This is a fusor- yes, it involves fusion. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's a bit less impressive when think about his parents buying $10,000 worth of equipment for him. The chance that they didn't help in other ways is vanishingly small.

    3. Re: This is a fusor- yes, it involves fusion. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Easier to buy and build it for your kid. Then claim the accomplishment and get the money and more back in college scholarships for your ADD kid.

    4. Re:This is a fusor- yes, it involves fusion. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When you say they aren't easy to build, of course that's completely relative. Harder to build that a birdhouse kit from the local hardware store? Orders of magnitude harder. Easier than a Tokamak? Orders of magnitude easier.

    5. Re:This is a fusor- yes, it involves fusion. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Impressive in the same way that my 6-year-old granddaughter rebuilt a T5 transmission last week (by handing me the tools).

    6. Re:This is a fusor- yes, it involves fusion. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Having money helps with everything. But, I don't see any reason to assume he needed help from his parents given all the resources available regarding building one. This is certainly looks more advanced than the stuff I would build at that age, but back then you were limited to information in the local library, Radio Shack, hobby stores, etc. Many of us used to do much more than play video games and jack off when we were 12 - bummer if the most you were doing was practising your "back stroke".

    7. Re:This is a fusor- yes, it involves fusion. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And we have no way to verify that his dad didn't do most of the work.

    8. Re:This is a fusor- yes, it involves fusion. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a bit less impressive when think about his parents buying $10,000 worth of equipment for him. The chance that they didn't help in other ways is vanishingly small.

      Or his parents could have sent him to the New York Military Academy for a few dollars more. However there he would likely have learned less about physics and become more interested in how he presented on parade instead of science.

    9. Re:This is a fusor- yes, it involves fusion. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's get real. It's easier to build than a gingerbread house.

    10. Re:This is a fusor- yes, it involves fusion. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't care if a kid has an IQ of 300, any scientific accomplishment by a 12 year old (especially one that costs $10 grand) was bare minimum 95% the parents and/or other adults.

    11. Re:This is a fusor- yes, it involves fusion. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But at this point it is a matter of engineering not actual creation.

    12. Re: This is a fusor- yes, it involves fusion. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What I like to call the 'Mozart question'.
      How much did others contribute? Would the child have been able to pull it off without the help?
      And even back then the attractiveness of 'child protegees' was financially attractive enough to question this.
      Just look around youtube for videos of similar topics and it indicates that such 'races for child protegee' is endemic.
      Though again, nothing new when you think about how old child beatuy pagents have been going on.

  8. nuclear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well I think young Jackson is about to receive a visit from some of my friends who dress in black suits.

    Jackson, these men are what you young people call *bad asses*.

    PS #NEVERTRUMP2020!

    1. Re:nuclear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, I guess Make magazine is screwed, as they posted step by step instructions for this very thing a while back.

    2. Re:nuclear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So long as he is white he will be OK, otherwise it's Gitmo for him.

  9. He did it all by himself by UperPoti · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because all 12 year old boys have $10,000 to do whatever they want with.

    1. Re:He did it all by himself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trump did. Look how really fantastic he turned out.

    2. Re:He did it all by himself by Livius · · Score: 1

      Not all. But a few.

    3. Re:He did it all by himself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because all 12 year old boys have $10,000 to do whatever they want with.

      Maybe he streams Fortnite on Twitch?

    4. Re:He did it all by himself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fusion is just another example of white privilege.

    5. Re:He did it all by himself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And nobody helped him. Not at all. Sure thang. Did it all himself. Sheldon Cooper there.

      It is just something to throw up on the news because journalists are nearly illiterate about science and readers are credulous. In a week it will be forgotten and everyone will move on to the rage of the day. Memory is short and education is weak. And Americans are giving up their heritage to shysters and snake oil saleswomen.

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    6. Re:He did it all by himself by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 4, Funny

      When I was 12, I spent all my fusion-power allowance ($10000 in equipment + electricity bills + equipment maintenance + further learning/helping resources) in toys and candies. I guess that this is the reason why I am (kind of) poor now. LOL

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    7. Re:He did it all by himself by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

      And nobody helped him. Not at all.

      He followed some instructions he got off the Internet, spending $10k of his parents' money. That's not exactly a claim that nobody helped. I was building electronics kits out of magazines at age 12.

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    8. Re:He did it all by himself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe he did it on credit cards, hoping to go viral and make it all back?

    9. Re:He did it all by himself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I remember my mind being mostly occupied on fusing with girls at that time, but the result was the same. Is there a yearly convention with this Club Poor somewhere?

    10. Re:He did it all by himself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When my son was young (~8 years old), I purchased a Radio Shack electronics experiment kit for him. After building many projects, he started asking me to take him to Radio Shack to purchase resistors, capacitors, diodes, and other electronics. I told him that I would purchase anything from that aisle for him, and he held me to it.

      Now that he is about to graduate from college with a CS degree, he has saved me well over $30,000 in scholarships. The lesson to be learned is to invest in your children - it pays off.

    11. Re:He did it all by himself by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Because all 12 year old boys have $10,000 to do whatever they want with.

      Yeah this kid is lucky. I had to wait until I was 15 to buy a $10k sound system. He must have had rich parents.

    12. Re:He did it all by himself by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 1

      Maybe he did it on credit cards, hoping to go viral and make it all back?

      No idea. Times are weird. Something like that and even much crazier might pay off, at least temporarily. Because there is something which hasn't changed and will probably never do: if you are rich, the doors are wide open; otherwise, you might get a chance to open them a bit and, after that, you would have to continue making efforts to keep them open.

      If this is about a rich family (just rich enough to afford expenses of this sort and to have the required background, contacts and long-term expectations), this experiment would probably represent an excellent starting point for the almost-certainly brilliant future of that kid. If this is about other kind of family (one not able to afford all this and without the required status/contacts, but understanding the importance of being known, getting a proper education, etc.), the kid might have a couple of good chances which he would have to maximise; after that, new opportunities might arise, but he would always have to prove himself and be better than others; and so on and so forth, until the point where that kid becomes a man with a really brilliant future or not, because he eventually failed (fairly or arbitrarily) or gave up or stopped seeing the point of continuing or any other thing happened. I personally prefer the not-so-rich version because, in that scenario, the chances of this kid to become a worthy human being seem much higher.

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    13. Re:He did it all by himself by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 1

      Is there a yearly convention with this Club Poor somewhere?

      Yes, but I am not allowed in. They say that someone who has lived his whole life in rich countries with a good education and lots of opportunities, who has never passed through real difficulties and who can even afford to not be too worried about money (despite not having much) can't be considered poor. That's why I refer to myself as kind of poor. And I haven't been able to find any Club Kind of Poor :)

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    14. Re:He did it all by himself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      u betcha. cant have darkie havin the powuhz.

    15. Re:He did it all by himself by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 1

      As a reminder of how tremendously stupid people can be (and why I don't feel like posting much online, for too long and without detailed enough explanations), I will explain the aforementioned joke:
      - Typical nonsense from in-denial rich idiots is that the main reason for being poor is having spent all their money on irrelevant things, rather than investing or making long-term decisions. Logically, they can't understand (because they are idiots) that some people have no choice, that long-term decisions can only be made by those able to afford them, a true luxury for a big number of people.
      - I took advantage from this article referring to what, at first sight, seems an over-privileged situation of a probably rich kid: having access to much more money than what most of kids of his age will ever have.
      - By putting the two previous points together, most of people should be able to understand the joke: I said that I am poor (well... kind of) because I wasted lots of money on irrelevant things (candies and toys) rather than on doing something like what the kid in the linked article did. The joke should have been evident (additionally to the ending LOL and having been quickly and accurately modded as funny), because this is a tremendously unrealistic situation: a kid, no matter how rich his family is, getting a so big amount of money, meant to be for something as unrealistic as nuclear power, and being able to freely dispose of it?! And even if that could be true, such a kid would never be poor or kind of poor or anything other then extremely rich. Even If there was still any doubt, it should be clear that I don't have much money and never did (as clearly stated in my profile description here).

      I know, I know... lots of people, virtually anyone with half brain cell and a bit of world experience, should understand the joke without any clarification. But there are also quite a few individuals seriously unable to understand it! Some of them have probably read my previous posts, not properly understood anything, come up with god-knows-what crazily stupid interpretation and, now, (hopefully) finally understood it. I am not expecting to cure extreme stupidity. I don't even aspire anymore to help those lost souls to understand that, at least, they should avoid dealing with people like me. I am simply making a point, a tiny one and one of the last times. Lastly, I want to highlight that I truly don't care about money and don't envy anyone (certainly, not someone getting everything undeservedly and without enough effort; I feel mostly pity for those). This was just about mocking what I think that deserves to be mocked. A small colourful detail which, ideally, shouldn't require this idiot-proof clarification. I am certainly kind of (or formally) poor, but that fact doesn't really represent a problem to me. So, I guess that even "kind of poor" isn't fully applicable to my situation; at least, not by relying on ideas on the lines of "the less you need, the richer you are".

      Anyway... I just wanted to write a few posts to somehow reinforce my karma & moderation privileges (is it required, right? Not completely sure though). Now, back to just reading and moderating :)

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    16. Re:He did it all by himself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Nice reactor, kid! Your parents buy that for you??" :D

  10. Was his name Oliver Wendall Jones, perhaps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Next, the small thermonuclear device will win first prize at the science fair, winning over a CO2 volcano.

  11. Lazy fucking journalists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Every single FUCKING year this story does the rounds. Some kid builds a Fansworth fusor.
    If journalists weren't so fucking stupid, and had even the slightest scrap of science literacy then this wouldn't happen.

    Fuck journalists.

  12. 50kV of electricity? by Kokuyo · · Score: 1

    Really? What do I do with that number?

    1. Re:50kV of electricity? by Lije+Baley · · Score: 1

      Maybe turn it down to about 25kV or your TV will let you see the bones in your hand.

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    2. Re:50kV of electricity? by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      You take that number and realize it is the electrostatic potential used to perform fusion in this particular fusor. In short, it is a useful number. Fusors require at least 4KV difference to operate at all.

  13. Is it April Fool's Day? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A bit early, isn't it?

  14. Hand in your nerd credentials by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Here is Make magazine's article on "Learn How to Build a Nuclear Fusor":

    https://makezine.com/projects/make-36-boards/nuclear-fusor/

  15. 50000 volts of electricity? by pahles · · Score: 1

    Wtf?

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    1. Re:50000 volts of electricity? by religionofpeas · · Score: 2

      50kV isn't that strange. Fairly easy to make, as long as you don't need a lot of current.

    2. Re:50000 volts of electricity? by gweihir · · Score: 1

      1. It is electricity at 50kV. Voltage is not an "amount" of electricity.
      2. You can get HV generators for 50kV cheaply on eBay.

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    3. Re:50000 volts of electricity? by pahles · · Score: 1

      You obviously don't know much about electricity. Electricity is not measured in volts.

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    4. Re:50000 volts of electricity? by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      You obviously don't know much about fusors. Fusion takes ions under at least 4KV potential difference to fuse. The voltage of a fuser has meaning for those that know how fusors operate.

  16. The absolute state of tech journalism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This story is one of those tropes that simply won't fuck off.
    Kids making fusors only make the news because it has teh NUCULARS in it. Liberal arts retards are attracted to it like flies on shit.
    Literally the only thing more irresistible to "journalists" is micro-power generation.

    "Liberal arts dropout chargers his iphone using a generator in his shoe!" The world must seem so magical to science illiterates.

    1. Re: The absolute state of tech journalism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, it's red-state retards who lap up this kind of junk journalism because they think it proves scientists are stoopit, and the supports them in their denial of evolution, the geologic age of the Earth, anthropocentric climate change, and any other science that contradicts their preformed opinions.

    2. Re: The absolute state of tech journalism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for the American perspective.
      Yes that certainly explains the demand-side of the equation.

      What blows my mind is when the complexity of their pseudo-science models approaches the complexity of real science. Clearly simplicity or dumbing down isn't the actual goal, but rather integrating with their religious world-view.

    3. Re: The absolute state of tech journalism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have yet to see any pseudoscience that requires an understanding of differential equations or covariance matrices or any of that good stuff.

  17. Blame democrat party by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They love it when mere 'kid' make potential wepons of mass destruction. At the same time they refuse to use the words "radical islamic terror" and then wonder why no one supports democrat party any more.

    1. Re:Blame democrat party by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, that's because he didn't.

    2. Re:Blame democrat party by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look up what a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... is. How could that be weaponized as a weapon of mass destruction?
      But who am I asking? That comment makes you look pretty dumb.

  18. oh boy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now I start to get a little bit afraid of 13 year old keyboard warriors...

  19. A likely more accurate headline by elrous0 · · Score: 0

    "12-Year-Old Boy's Parents Build Nuclear Fusion Reactor, Boy Helps"

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    1. Re:A likely more accurate headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Boy Helps by donating his playroom"

  20. JOURNALIST CANT EVEN COUNT PROPERLY!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He was 12 in January 2018
    And now in February 2019 he is 14 ???

    I want the date of birth of this guy to justify is he born in a date in between January and February !!

    Or else I cry at counting wrong!!

    1. Re: JOURNALIST CANT EVEN COUNT PROPERLY!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are at least 23 days on which he could have been born for that to be correct, more depending on when in January he did this.

    2. Re:JOURNALIST CANT EVEN COUNT PROPERLY!!! by mrclevesque · · Score: 1

      "I managed to achieve fusion with ice bags taped to my diffusion pump to cool it before January 19th at 3:38pm (my birthday/time)"

      http://www.fusor.net/board/vie...

  21. That's nothing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My son created a vaccine that nullifies all previous vaccines!

    1. Re: That's nothing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Liquid chlorine?

  22. Commercially-relevant fusion just one word away! by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 1

    equipment that uses 50,000 volts of electricity

    Just by converting that "uses" into "generates", we would get usable fusion power! He is soooo close! Why not trying with a bigger dictionary or something? He should definitively scale his vocabulary up! LOL.

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  23. $10,000? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When I was twelve, I had trouble scraping together 10 bucks. Rich kids, hmph.

    1. Re:$10,000? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, having to work your butt off to earn money gave you an appreciation for its value and the value of work. That kid might get everything given to him, but he'll never mature into a self-actualized human unless he has to work for it.

      He deserves pity if that's the case. The parents are the ones potentially suspect here.

  24. Paging Oliver Wendell Jones by Elfich47 · · Score: 2

    Bloom County Elementry School would like to state that the school evacuation during the Science Fair was not a drill. The NRC has safely removed the dangerous device from the school.

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  25. Meanwhile .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    our research organizations are pumping millions into a black hole and can't get steady state operation on a commercial Fusor yet

  26. Becareful. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't bring Plutonium to home.

    1. Re:Becareful. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Especially if you want to do nuclear fusion.

  27. That is "fission" you are talking about by gweihir · · Score: 0

    Fusion is something else. Nobody will build that privately for a long, long time.

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    1. Re:That is "fission" you are talking about by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Ah, I see, it is indeed "fusion", but in a completely useless way.

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    2. Re:That is "fission" you are talking about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So far, very inefficient, indeed. But potentially improvable, as I've made many improvements myself, by not creating all the ions at the bottom of the field well, and by using ion trap principles with AC drive (see Mathieu or quadrupole mass spectrometers - I've managed to get those principles to work at 10x the density normally possible) to force the recirculation that Farnsworth thought would happen automagically. It's a work in progress, improvement is constant at least in my lab, but yeah, there's a long way to go with any of the existing approaches. Doesn't mean it's not worth trying. Governments dump all their money into one flawed approach, which might not be the one that finally flies. We'll see.
      dc

    3. Re:That is "fission" you are talking about by sfcat · · Score: 2

      Fusion is something else. Nobody will build that privately for a long, long time.

      That's not the only problem. The problem of how to harness 1,000,000C heat is still unsolved to put it mildly. The only real use for a fusion reactor is as a waste burner and it would be a really expensive one at that. Fusion power generation will likely be something that doesn't happen in our lifetimes. Perhaps 100s or 1000s of years from now but not anytime soon. We just don't know how to efficiently extract energy from that level of heat and don't have the materials to contain that level of heat either. We hold that heat in a magnetic bottle which uses so much power itself that its difficult to make the entire process produce energy instead of consume it.

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    4. Re:That is "fission" you are talking about by mvdwege · · Score: 1

      Not quite. This is a fusor, aka Electrostatic Confinement Fusion. One of the ways to use that is to use proton-boron fusion, which generates nothing but alpha particles. If the electrostatic well is designed correctly, theoretically you could capture those in the outer grid, where they will steal two electrons, thus generating electron flow, aka electricity.

      Robert Bussard was working on that, his company Polywell is still doing research into different grid designs.

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    5. Re:That is "fission" you are talking about by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      No, you are ignorant.

      Hobbists including teens have built fusors, they do fuse nuclei in very tiny amounts. Look it up.

    6. Re:That is "fission" you are talking about by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      Wrong, thermal blanket to collect energy from a fusion reaction is a solved problem.

      And of course hobbyists have privately built fusors, and they do perform fusion.

    7. Re:That is "fission" you are talking about by sfcat · · Score: 2

      Not quite. This is a fusor, aka Electrostatic Confinement Fusion. One of the ways to use that is to use proton-boron fusion, which generates nothing but alpha particles. If the electrostatic well is designed correctly, theoretically you could capture those in the outer grid, where they will steal two electrons, thus generating electron flow, aka electricity.

      Robert Bussard was working on that, his company Polywell is still doing research into different grid designs.

      I was unaware of proton-boron fusion so thanks. If its just alpha particles, why not just boil water with them? Its basically heat at that point. Getting the alpha particles to capture electrons seems hard and perhaps not the most efficient way to capture power but I don't know. It would be an interesting solution to the problem. Still have to make one that actually makes more power than it consumes though. And since the confinement consumes so much power that is hard. I know scientists always love exploring the unknown (ie extreme conditions), but for civilian fission and fusion power perhaps lower energy things are better. Thermal spectrum reactors are better than fast spectrum (this is one idea the nuclear scientists really missed back in the 60s) and some sort of lower heat/lower power fusion will probably be preferable to more extreme forms of fusion. Also, particle accelerators take lots of power so I'm not holding my breath.

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    8. Re:That is "fission" you are talking about by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      *facepalm*. This is dumb even for you.

    9. Re:That is "fission" you are talking about by 0dugo0 · · Score: 1

      If you want to use it for electricity grids, direct conversion is supposed to be more efficient than going through the steam cycle.

    10. Re:That is "fission" you are talking about by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 1

      Apparently, this alternative is even more theoretical and difficult than the typical fusion approaches with steam-based electricity generation.

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    11. Re:That is "fission" you are talking about by mvdwege · · Score: 1

      Oh yes. Theoretically a polywell reactor is possible, but we have absolutely no clue how to build the confinement grids to generate an electrostatic well with the correct depth to achieve self-sustaining fusion. It still is an interesting research field to keep an eye on.

      As for alpha particles capturing electrons? Nope, not hard. They're big ungainly particles, so if they hit anything they will draw electrons in and turn into helium atoms.

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  28. Don't stop at making Helium by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

    Keep on going and make Lithium. We will need more for batteries.

  29. Child or parents? by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Still, a 12 year old doing it is pretty impressive.

    How impressive it is really depends a lot on how much help he got from his parents. They clearly provided very significant financial support...

  30. Superpowers by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 2

    Just be thankful that's all he did. With all the neutron and gamma radiation from the fusion reaction, the side effects could have been a lot more serious.

  31. Phineas? by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 2

    I got those parts off eBay primarily

    "Aren't you a little young to be building a fusion reactor??"

    "Yes ... yes I am."

  32. Re: Lol Stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Better build that wall with Lincoln Logs!

    Better protect your copyrights or risk losing them.

    FTFY!

    It doesn't matter if you need to abuse DMCA as hell to do it.

    Then, on the plus side, on a reverse psychology move, you can even make videos about others doing it thus insuring your long tail revenue streams.

  33. Who Dat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MEMPHIS TENNESSEE

  34. Re: Lol Stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Creimer donated $71 to the Second Harvest Food Bank of Silicon Valley. #SomethingPositive

  35. Re: Lol Stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that's a shrewd investment
    next week you'll raid about 350$ of food for the week from them

  36. Genndy Tartakovsky? by Alworx · · Score: 1

    I think the kid's name is Dexter: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

  37. Re: Lol Stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Creimer donated $71 [twitter.com] to the Second Harvest Food Bank of Silicon Valley. #SomethingPositive

    You are such a double faced hypocrite and an a pathological liar that you are probably lying about giving that money as well.

    Not a big challenge for you to fake that receipt since you are so used to fake things.

  38. They should by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

    Because all 12 year old boys have $10,000 to do whatever they want with.

    Why shouldn't they? We live in a prosperous country, and spend more than that on educating a child for a year. Kids wanting to learn something like this should be able to apply for a government grant for "interesting project done by a kid." Not many kids would take them up on it, and we could even insist on having completed easier and cheaper projects before that. There are under 5 million 12-year-olds in the US. Assuming only 2% want to do something as ambitious as build a fusion reactor, that's under a billion a year.

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  39. My allowance ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... doesnt even begin to come that close all years combined lol

  40. Re: Lol Stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They caught onto him and are making him pay it back in installments. Make no mistake: that is NOT a donation. The value of the food that he swiped means that he will be paying it back until he dies.
     
    Chris Reimer (aka CDReimer aka C.D. Reimer aka Christopher Dale Reimer aka creimer aka IEatFatCashews et al.) is a LIAR and a THIEF.

  41. Radiation damage yes, setting off detectors no. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

    I'm pretty sure the do-it-yourself kit also includes radiation poisoning, shorter life span, and investigation by a nuclear regulatory agency since the persons involved would be glowing ...

    Not with a Farnsworth Fusor. These only put out a few million neutrons a second.

    So you don't get radiation poisoning and don't become (substantially) radioactive from the neutron flux.

    But a Farsnworth-Hirsch or Hirsch-Meeks fusor puts out a LOT of X-rays, from loose electrons accelerated across tens of kV slamming into electrodes. So you can take a lot of damage quickly if it isn't properly shielded.

    Fortunately X-rays in the relevant range of energies are moderately easy to stop. A good thick metal vacuum enclosure will do it. Use thick leaded glass for any viewports and/or don't make a practice of hanging around it when it's running.

    Small, cheap, TV cameras are a fusor-user's friend.

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  42. Re:U-S-A U-S-A U-S-A by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You just triggered 100 SJW's to shit their pants!
    Think of the children!!!

  43. Reactor is not incorrect, but a better name exists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This device is more properly named a Fusor. More at this link The open source fusor research consortium.

  44. Dexter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is his name Dexter?

  45. Wrong again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wrong.
    I voted for the Democrats because society owes me.
    The earth is still flat, God created the universe, global warming is a corporate hoax, and scientists don't know everything.

  46. omnomnom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But have you TRIED to eat a fusor?

  47. still waiting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    More would imply you said something already. Still waiting for it...

  48. Re: Lol Stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nice chris. Seriously.

    Now I make the joke: Was this donation to the food bank or did you open a cd on a thanksgiving turkey? After a year of interest it'll come back with a duck and a cornish game hen stuffed inside.

  49. Titled improperly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shouldn't the title have "fission", not "fusion" since the latter it's not yet a reality?

  50. Hey, he's a pretty smart kid. by DirkDaring · · Score: 1

    He'll grow five inches in the next year.

  51. Anything is possible... by Pyramid · · Score: 1

    ...when you have parents that can throw huge amounts of money and help at a project.

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  52. A few points... by Pyramid · · Score: 1

    Even if his device never achieved fusion, 50 kV is more than enough potential to produce copious X-Rays. A steel chamber is likely thick enough to stop most emissions at energy level, especially since you get a broad spectra *up to* 50 KeV. However, failure to get this right such as by using plain glass for windows can be nasty. Lower energy X-Rays can be worse since they tend to be absorbed by rather than sailing through tissue

    If we knew how many μA or mA his Fusor draws in operation along with chamber material and thickness, it'd be pretty easy to calculate a ball-park of the intensity.

    On a related note, Slashdot seems to have changed over the years. There are still high quality posts, but the ratio of quality vs. ignorant statements has become disappointing

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    1. Re:A few points... by Pyramid · · Score: 1

      That was supposed to be uA. Apparently Slashdot mangles Unicode.

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