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Virgin Galactic Reaches Space Again In Highest, Fastest Test Flight Yet (cnn.com)

"If you're willing to spend $250,000 for a quick trip to space, that option is getting closer to reality," reports CNN. VSS Unity, Virgin Galactic's rocket-powered plane, climbed to a record altitude of nearly 56 miles during a test flight on Friday, marking the second time Richard Branson's startup has reached space. Two pilots, and for the first time, an additional crew member, were on board. Beth Moses, Galactic's chief astronaut trainer and an aerospace engineer, rode along with the pilots. The trip allowed her to run safety checks and get a first look at what Galactic's customers could one day experience. Moses has logged hundreds of hours on zero gravity aircrafts, and she described the G Forces aboard the supersonic plane as "mildly wild." Some moments were intense, she told CNN Business, but it was never uncomfortable. "I was riveted and I think our customers will be as well."

Unity took off from a runway in California's Mojave Desert just after 8 am PT and cruised to about 45,000 feet attached to its mothership before it broke away and fired its rocket motor. The plane then swooped into the upper reaches of the atmosphere, 295,000 feet high, at supersonic speeds. It's top speed was Mach 3. At the peak of its flight path, Unity experienced a few minutes of weightlessness and looked out into the black skies of the cosmos. Moses said she was able to leave her seat and take in the view. "The Earth was beautiful -- super sharp, super clear," she said, "with a gorgeous view of the Pacific mountains."

America's Federal Aviation Administration says they'll now award commercial astronaut wings to all three members of the crew, and CNN reports that this second successful test flight suggests Galactic "could be on track" to start flying tourists into space this year.

"About 600 people have reserved tickets, priced between $200,000 and $250,000, to fly with Galactic. And the company says it wants to eventually lower prices to broaden its customer base."

48 comments

  1. wow this is amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    socialism gets you a moon landing in 1969
    the free market gets you a test flight in 2019

    hurray
    hurrah

    1. Re:wow this is amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bernie 2020.

    2. Re:wow this is amazing by Pinky's+Brain · · Score: 0

      Trillions of tax money got a few people on the moon, it got me nothing.

    3. Re:wow this is amazing by weilawei · · Score: 2

      Are you that ignorant?

    4. Re:wow this is amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it cost billions and test pilots had to walk on the moon to get that

      seems convoluted

      why not just take the money and spend it directly on the people working on stuff

      or are you that brainwashed that you think apollo was anything else than icbm propaganda theatre

      i am always entertained by the mental gymnastics of the space nutters

    5. Re:wow this is amazing by Pinky's+Brain · · Score: 1

      You could have spend it on research subsidies for terrestrial applications and got more out of it. Accidental unrelated discoveries will happen in every field.

      The only unique results you get from spending money going to the moon is what's necessary to go to the moon and nothing else.

    6. Re:wow this is amazing by weilawei · · Score: 1

      Regardless of how those technologies might have been acquired, you received them via the Apollo program. Your claim that you received nothing is provably wrong. QED.

      You're crying over lost opportunity cost. Unless your research gives you a time machine, I suggest you focus on the present.

    7. Re: wow this is amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah right. More like the Nazis did it and we just put our flag in their accomplishments.

    8. Re:wow this is amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Trillions of tax money got a few people on the moon, it got me nothing.

      Says a person who is using a computer which is derived from integrated circuits used in the Apollo Guidance Computer:
      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/space/5893387/Apollo-11-moon-landing-top-15-Nasa-inventions.html

    9. Re:wow this is amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A rat done bit my sister Nell
      With whitey on the moon

      Her face and arms began to swell
      And whitey's on the moon

      I can't pay no doctor bills
      But whitey's on the moon

      Ten years from now I'll be payin' still
      While whitey's on the moon

      The man just upped my rent last night
      Cause whitey's on the moon

      No hot water, no toilets, no lights
      But whitey's on the moon

      I wonder why he's upping me?
      Cause whitey's on the moon?

      Well I was already giving him fifty a week
      With whitey on the moon

      Taxes taking my whole damn check
      Junkies making me a nervous wreck
      The price of food is going up
      And as if all that shit wasn't enough:
      A rat done bit my sister Nell
      With whitey on the moon

      Her face and arm began to swell
      And whitey's on the moon

      Was all that money I made last year
      For whitey on the moon?

      How come I ain't got no money here?
      Hmm! Whitey's on the moon

      Y'know I just 'bout had my fill
      Of whitey on the moon

      I think I'll send these doctor bills
      Airmail special
      To whitey on the moon

    10. Re:wow this is amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      incorrect
      computers were already in use before apollo
      that is why ibm was called international business machines
      not international space machines
      the computer you're using owes a lot more to accountants and banks than test pilots in diapers
      as a matter of fact
      you should use your computer to educate yourself
      then you'll stop believing nonsense

    11. Re:wow this is amazing by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      You actually received them from Werner von Braun.

      --
      Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
    12. Re:wow this is amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is a vast difference between socialised and socialist. Are you too dumb to know that difference? Or are you so evil that you want socialism to kill millions more people?

    13. Re:wow this is amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Neil Armstrong died today
      (with Sambo on the dole)

      He’s done picked up and gone away
      (and Sambo’s on the dole)

      We can’t afford no moonshots now
      (with Sambo on the dole)

      Ten years from now we’ll be broke still
      (with Sambo on the dole)

      The man jus’ upped my taxes
      (’cause Sambo’s on the dole)

      No roads, no parks, no space program
      (but Sambo’s on the dole)

      I wonder why he’s uppin’ me
      (cause Sambo’s on the dole?)

      I paid over 50 grand last year
      (with Sambo on the dole)

      Taxes takin’ my whole damn check,
      Gangstas makin’ me a nervous wreck,
      The price of food is goin’ up,
      An’ as if all that crap wuzn’t enough:
      Neil Armstrong died today
      (with Sambo on the dole)

      He’s done picked up and gone away
      (but Sambo’s on the dole)

      Was all that money I made las’ year
      (for Sambo on the dole?)

      How come there ain’t no money here?
      (Hmm! Sambo’s on the dole)

      Y’know I jus’ ’bout had my fill
      (of Sambo on the dole)

      I think I’ll sen’ the taxman’s bills,
      Airmail special
      to Sambo on the dole

    14. Re:wow this is amazing by kenai_alpenglow · · Score: 1

      Huh? If you're talking Kennedy being socialist, he's so far to the right of the current democrat party you can't even see him. If you're not, your claim makes no sense whatsoever.

    15. Re: wow this is amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And not a single one of those computers had an integrated circuit in them, nor were they small and light enough to fit in a spacecraft, or a cellphone.

  2. Space? by weilawei · · Score: 1

    Didn't we just have an article yesterday on how space actually starts much further away if by space you mean "not Earth's atmosphere"?

    1. Re:Space? by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but they were high enough to feel spacey, that counts right?

      "Dude, I think I can see Romulus from up here!"

    2. Re:Space? by hey! · · Score: 5, Informative

      There is no sharp distinction between atmosphere and space. The fact that detectable traces of the Earth's atmosphere extend to the Moon doesn't mean you are not "in space" when you're orbiting the Moon. As technology improves traces of the Earth's atmosphere will be found even farther away.

      But people need lines to govern things like jurisdiction. The usual line is the Karman Line at roughly 100km. That's where the minimum speed needed to maintain aerodynamic lift equals orbital velocity. Well below that line vehicles fly; well above the line they orbit. But there's no practical difference between traveling at 99 km of altitude and 101 km.

      There are other places you could draw the line. One could make an argument for 150 km, which is the minimum altitude at which a craft can complete a single unboosted orbit without atmospheric drag causing it to crash. Alternatively, I like the Armstrong Line -- this is the maximum altitude a human could survive at without a pressure suit. That's about 19km, well below the altitudes routinely reached by U2 spy plane flights.

      NASA used to use the Karman Line, but switched to 80km so that there wouldn't be a difference in astronaut status between civilians and military personnel on the same flight. The US military used 50 miles/80 km in awarding astronaut wings. This is both a nice round number, and it is roughly where the stratosphere ends and the thermosphere begins. The thermosphere extends well beyond any commonly accepted started point for "outer space".

      --
      Post may contain irony: discontinue use if experiencing mood swings, nausea or elevated blood pressure.
    3. Re:Space? by weilawei · · Score: 1

      Well said, +1, Informative.

    4. Re:Space? by Njovich · · Score: 1

      Well, it's space by some definitions. It's certainly not that far fetched to call it suborbital space flight, with minutes of weightlessness, a view from vastly higher than with any regular airplane, and much less atmosphere. Space is a fairly big place, so with any kind of 'space mission' you need more information to figure out how impressive it is and what it entails.

    5. Re:Space? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The fact the article uses feet instead of miles or km tells all, like datasheets, it's the parts they omit or make difficult to understand that is where the suckage is. Those 295k feet == 55.87 miles, or about half the normally accepted definition of where real space begins.

    6. Re:Space? by Brett+Buck · · Score: 1

      The Karman line, as computed by Karman, was 52 miles.

           

    7. Re:Space? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Awesome post. Let me try.

      Didn't we just have an article yesterday on how space actually starts much further away if by space you mean "not Earth's atmosphere"?

      Isn't Earth's atmosphere also someplace, and everything in Earth's atmosphere also in that place? Where is Earth? Distinguishing outer space from anywhere else is silly. It's all just space. We're always in space.

    8. Re:Space? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Awesome post. Let me try.

      Didn't we just have an article yesterday on how space actually starts much further away if by space you mean "not Earth's atmosphere"?

      Isn't Earth's atmosphere also someplace, and everything in Earth's atmosphere also in that place? Where is Earth? Distinguishing outer space from anywhere else is silly. It's all just space. We're always in space.

      It ultimately depends on what we mean by "we." If we mean our conscious sense of self, we're not even sure what it is. Best guess is it is a phenomenon that arises from healthy living brain. But if that phenomenon is us... is it substance? does it have mass? is it some place? I think Dennett worked on this one ("Where am I?").

    9. Re:Space? by Shaitan · · Score: 1

      Very informative. Personally, I don't see a need to change the standard but think Virgin should shoot for 150km. For the price of the ticket you not only go to space and gain astronaut status but you'd have an orbit of the Earth to go with it.

    10. Re:Space? by ayesnymous · · Score: 2

      That's why it says "upper reaches of the atmosphere".

    11. Re:Space? by pavon · · Score: 1

      But people need lines to govern things like jurisdiction. The usual line is the Karman Line at roughly 100km. That's where the minimum speed needed to maintain aerodynamic lift equals orbital velocity.

      It's also worth pointing out that the exact atltitude where that occurs depends on the the thickness of the atmosphere (which varies significantly spatially and seasonally), and even the design of the aircraft. Most people who have estimated average values have gotten numbers between 80 and 90 km. The 100km number is a political definition found my rounding to a nice even number, as is the 50mi the USAF uses. Flying to the edge of space is a t perfectly reasonable description of what both Virgin Galactic and Blue Origin are doing whether they get to 80km or 100km, or anywhere close.

    12. Re:Space? by quenda · · Score: 1

      Alternatively, I like the Armstrong Line -- this is the maximum altitude a human could survive at without a pressure suit. That's about 19km,

      By altitude training, and boosting your blood capacity with EPO , than can be considerably extended, I hear.

    13. Re: Space? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Virgin isnâ(TM)t anywhere close to orbit. It takes nearly 40 times as much energy to reach orbit than it does to go straight up and down as virgin is doing.

  3. Virgin Slashdotters Reaches Climax Again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In Rapid Masturbatory Feat, While Thinking About Space

    1. Re:Virgin Slashdotters Reaches Climax Again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Space Nutters and ingravs are for sure fingering their buttholes while stroking it to rocket porn

    2. Re:Virgin Slashdotters Reaches Climax Again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hello binary cunt.

    3. Re:Virgin Slashdotters Reaches Climax Again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what's the matter
      did you plan on being on mars by 2020 when you bought your mars one ticket
      now all you have is a limp dick and a finger in your ass
      and sad old 1960s space propaganda posters

    4. Re:Virgin Slashdotters Reaches Climax Again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stick to whining about Rei and Tesla and Musk you sad old INCEL cunt.

  4. Missing the important bit here... by religionofpeas · · Score: 1

    Please tell us if the Earth was round or flat.

    1. Re:Missing the important bit here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please tell us if the Earth was round or flat.

      It was actually found to be spherical.

    2. Re:Missing the important bit here... by Lije+Baley · · Score: 2

      "It looked like a perfect disk." - It's strange that the disk has different continents when viewed from space over the U.S. vs. China though.

      --
      Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K.
    3. Re:Missing the important bit here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The clue that it's a sphere you're orbiting and not merely a disk that you're high above is that you can continue to approach the apparent disk tangentially and still become no closer to it. Geometry works, motherfuckers.

  5. War by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Military and wars have driven technology much further than anything else. There's no better motivator for man than killing his fellow man.
    The entire space program is based upon military tech. And quite a bit of it was funded by the military.

    The NAzis who built our Moon rockets learned their craft from Hitler.
    Just say'in.

    1. Re: War by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea because Hitler was a rocket scientist among other things.

    2. Re: War by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You guys give him credit for engineering soviet built gulags. So why not a rocket scientist too?

  6. "Space" should be in quotes with asterisk appended by ClarkMills · · Score: 1

    ...as they're just using some obscure groups definition of space. ;)

  7. Wandering stars, in blackest darkness forever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For this reason, God sends them a powerful delusion(operation of wandering)(planet) so that they will believe the lie.

    Mystery Red of the Great American Eclipse
    It has blood on it!
    ABCNews: Eclipse makes pendulum wander
    Sound of Silence

  8. Re:wow this is amazing nigger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    n1gger.

    let me splain sometin to ya yo.

    in 1969 our awesome capitalist machine took von braun's design and made it real. we hit a home run to get to the moon without fail.

    in 2019 a small team of people can leverage all the research our godly air force and nasa has done to make a crappy sub-space plan (56 miles is not space and the time it spends in the air is pathetic).

    what is amazing is how cheap and easily accessible things are becoming. in relative terms the cost of doing things near and in space will drop.

    branson is a just a fucking cunt idiot who sold records of shit music to get his billions.

    imagine if all the democrats, socialists and other chicom-chinese programmed maoist scum were dead what we could do with a real leader again? the moon would be nothing! we could go to mars or anywhere without the wrecking socialist scum fucking our assses day in and day out!

  9. Re:"Space" should be in quotes with asterisk appen by thegarbz · · Score: 1

    ...as they're just using some obscure groups definition of space. ;)

    Yeah, what would NASA know anyway.

  10. English anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For Thorâ(TM)s sake people, the plural of aircraft is aircraft.