The Prototype iPhones That Hackers Use To Research Apple's Most Sensitive Code
Hackers and security researchers use rare "dev-fused" iPhones created for internal use at Apple to bypass Apple's protections and security features to uncover iPhone vulnerabilities and other sensitive info, Motherboard reported Wednesday, citing two dozen security researchers, current and former Apple employees, rare phone collectors, and members of the iPhone jailbreaking community. From the report: These rare iPhones have many security features disabled, allowing researchers to probe them much more easily than the iPhones you can buy at a store. Since the Black Hat talk, dev-fused iPhones have become a tool that security researchers around the world use to find previously unknown iPhone vulnerabilities (known as zero days), Motherboard has learned. Dev-fused iPhones were never intended to escape Apple's production pipeline have made their way to the gray market, where smugglers and middlemen sell them for thousands of dollars to hackers and security researchers. Using the information gleaned from probing a dev-fused device, researchers can sometimes parlay what they've learned into developing a hack for the normal iPhones hundreds of millions of people own.
... and they let them get away. That's got to suck.
I disagree with the conclusion, they claim Apple does not benefit...
But Apple does, by having a lot of people unveil bugs they might never have found themselves.
Yes it can lead to a few exploits, but in the long run probably fewer than there would have been were Apple successful in never having dev devices stolen.
It sure seems like there are a lot of severe countermeasures Apple could take related to these devices, if they cared seriously about them being taken.
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Ah, the daily msmash spree of bullshit articles from bullshit sources. It's like this editor really is incapable of doing any better.
Well, security issue closed, Kendall doesn't see it. I guess story over. /s
Bumbling and bungling so called security researcher never miss an opportunity to be sloppy. A real bunch of characters you got in that there Dev-fused arena
Kendall you get caught making shit up on an hourly basis on this site. On what basis are you evaluating this and presenting your hand-in-ass opine? You don't know anything about this.
Interesting. I used to work for RIM and we had these 'unsecured' phones as well. Most test phones needed remote authentication to use specific commands (PKI + RIM employee account), but some tests require uninterrupted communications, and that's where these phones come in.
The unsecured phones themselves have many of the securities disabled, and you can mass with anything from the baseband firmwares to load a completely new unsigned OS on them (also fun things like send direct bitmap commands to the LCD, flash buttons, sounds, camera, etc.)
Obviously these phones were *a big deal*. You needed to have a very good reason to request one, and they require constant monitoring of their whereabouts. 1 time out of the blue a man in a trench coat (think 50s UFO FBI agent) literally appeared in our office and demanded the whereabouts of one such phone. When we couldn't find it (as it fried and we discarded it), he went thru every supply cabinets/drawers in our office.
What I want to say is, I am very surprised Apple doesn't do the same thing.
Kendall is illiterate, stop making fun of her. She's sensitive, excessive fecklessness and video games have made her bones weaker than her tinfoil arguments. Kendall basically has no bones or rigid components whatsoever.
Kendall slaves away over a hot stove all day and never even has to correct his idiotic posts after hours. Must be too busy eating Bon bons and passing out drunk on the kitchen table. What a loser you're gonna die a fiery death alone
But Apple does, by having a lot of people unveil bugs they might never have found themselves.
Joy's Law (by Bill Joy, co-founder of Sun Microsystems): no matter who you are, most of the smartest people work for someone else.
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joy%27s_law_(management)
Seems cheap given the real phone is almost thousands of dollars. I was expecting hundreds of thousands for such a desirable prototype.
They do"benefit" from bugs found...
But they lose more from reputation damage that they're problem \ virus free (at least from the masses)
>where smugglers and middlemen sell them for thousands of dollars to hackers and security researchers
So basically, list price then.
What level of effort do you need. Some sort of microscopic soldering or are we talking about electron microscopes?