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US Tech Firms Fear China Could Be Spying On Them Using Power Cords, Report Says (cnbc.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from CNBC: Fearing that China could be spying on them using power cords and plugs, several U.S. technology companies have asked their Taiwanese suppliers to shift production of some components out of the mainland, Nikkei Asian Review reported on Friday. The report cited unnamed executives from two Taiwanese companies: Lite-On Technology, a manufacturer of electronic parts, and Quanta Computer, a supplier of servers and data centers. Lite-On's clients include Dell EMC, Hewlett-Packard and IBM, while Quanta counts Google and Facebook among its customers, according to Nikkei. The executives told Nikkei that some of their American clients -- without specifying which companies -- asked them to move out of China partly because of cyberespionage and cybersecurity risks. The U.S. tech firms were worried that even mundane components such as power plugs could be tapped by Beijing to access sensitive data, according to the report. According to the report, Lite-On Technology is building a new factory in Taiwan to manufacture power components for servers due to China's cybersecurity concerns. Quanta has also shifted production out of mainland China to Taiwan due to similar concerns, as well as additional tariffs imposed by Washington as a result of the U.S.-China trade war.

142 comments

  1. Valid fear. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    https://www.amazon.com/KJB-Security-C1184-Camera-covert/dp/B0054GQAJU

    1. Re:Valid fear. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      https://www.amazon.com/KJB-Security-C1184-Camera-covert/dp/B0054GQAJU

      US doesn't like the competition.

    2. Re:Valid fear. by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

      Holy crap, what has our world come to when you can buy something like that commercially?

    3. Re:Valid fear. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I mean this only in jest, but were you born yesterday? "Spy cam", "babysitter monitoring", "lecture recorder", watch cams, pen cams, eyewear-cams have all been available for years. All the sellers mention the usual legitimate uses, like security cameras, or finding out who's been stealing from you without tipping off a thief that they're being recorded. And you can fill in the blanks for the illegitimate uses.

      what has our world come to when you can buy something like that commercially

      Glad you asked! We're living in Ted Kaczynski's nightmare. Anyone can buy camera components off the shelf from most any online electronics supplier because there is nothing illegal about the components themselves.

    4. Re:Valid fear. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Holy crap, what has our world come to when you can buy something like that commercially?

      Stuff like this, of lesser technology, has always been available.

      The way you responded reminds me of pro-life Catholics clutching their pearls at condoms available at the grocery store.

    5. Re:Valid fear. by marklark · · Score: 1

      Only if you plug this into your DVR! It's not meant to be used to actually power a laptop.

      Next!

    6. Re:Valid fear. by Iwastheone · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Holy crap, what has our world come to when you can buy something like that commercially?

      There is hope, though it'll mean more crap to have to buy... From: https://www.kickstarter.com/pr...

      How Does It Work?

      When the power button is “pressed” on side of unit, and you look through the viewfinder, it activates six special bright-red LED strobe lights designed to bounce off the smallest of camera lenses. The tiny camera lens will appear to blink back at you as a reflection off camera lens itself , instantly giving away its location as you scan the area around you. It doesn’t matter if the camera is turned on or off, recording or not...even if its a non-working camera, the blinking effect will clearly show you the presence of a camera lens which is almost impossible to detect with the naked eye. Knowing where the camera is located will allow you to take immediate action to prevent unauthorized recording of activity. In addition, there are 3 LED intensity levels which helps hone in on camera lenses which could be hidden behind different surfaces. A flat wall 30 feet away could use the highest LED intensity, while a semi reflective shiny surface 5 feet away would use the lowest intensity. This prevents false reflections, maximizing the ability to find a hidden camera lens in any room environment.

    7. Re:Valid fear. by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

      Oh fuck you.

    8. Re:Valid fear. by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 0

      I meant SPECIFICALLY a product like a gods-be-damned power cord with a gods-be-damned wireless surveillance camera in it. It's rather specific don't you think?

    9. Re: Valid fear. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My fucking god the language round here.

    10. Re: Valid fear. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      then fucking leave pussy

    11. Re:Valid fear. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Deary me! What has our world come to?

      --Rick Schumann

      lol

    12. Re:Valid fear. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a camera disguised to look like a power cord... NOT a power cord.

    13. Re:Valid fear. by wierd_w · · Score: 1

      Why yes it is.

      In more ways than one.

      https://gizmodo.com/this-innoc...

      A dedicated effort could surveil a workcenter in every conceivable way, and do so VERY discretely.

  2. If you're going to be paranoid... by misnohmer · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you're worried about power plugs, you should be worried about anything that plugs in, or even is battery powered. An office heater or fan, desk lamp, etc can spy on your power signature almost as well as the extension cord used to power things. A battery powered headset can spy wirelessly too. You could even take it a step further and suspect shoes made in China, they could contain kinetically charged batteries with spying equipment.

    So, if you want to be paranoid, you have to ban everything made in China.

    1. Re:If you're going to be paranoid... by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Quite a few successful ops involved giving people fans and other devices. My fave involved a lava lamp, of all things.

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    2. Re:If you're going to be paranoid... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They might want to check where their tinfoil hats are made too.

    3. Re:If you're going to be paranoid... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      " if you want to be paranoid, you have to ban everything made in China. " - Probably a good suggestion long term. We can't trust China's Communist Party for shit, nor should we do so for economic convenience or any other reason.
         

    4. Re:If you're going to be paranoid... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The walmart will not be pleased.

    5. Re:If you're going to be paranoid... by hey! · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The difference is that you don't buy an office heater, fan, or desk lamp *with a server*. The scale of an operation to capture significant valuable information via desk lamps would have to be orders of magnitude larger.

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    6. Re:If you're going to be paranoid... by misnohmer · · Score: 2

      The article talks about power cords, which are not sold "with a server" either. You could argue that cooling fans inside the server are more tied to the server than the power cord which often is purchases of the server rack than a server.

    7. Re:If you're going to be paranoid... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You joke Ivan but...

    8. Re:If you're going to be paranoid... by Powercntrl · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If you're worried about power plugs, you should be worried about anything that plugs in, or even is battery powered.

      Pretty much anything you connect to your network could be used to hack into the other machines you have on that network. Even the WiFi plug I bought for my lamp has been nagging me to update the firmware it runs.

      On the other hand, those WiFi outlet switch thingies are just so damn convenient... Security was fun while it lasted.

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    9. Re:If you're going to be paranoid... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      we xray them.

    10. Re:If you're going to be paranoid... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      But not the USA, right?

    11. Re:If you're going to be paranoid... by dohzer · · Score: 1

      How about... wait for it... your cell phone (gasp).

  3. Only Americans are... by EzInKy · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...allowed to spy on Americans. I'm sure that is written in the Constitution somewhere.

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    1. Re:Only Americans are... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, Americans are specifically prohibited from spying on Americans. That's why the get the Brits to do it and vice versa.

    2. Re:Only Americans are... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you sleep through the last decade or so?

  4. Bloomberg report maybe not completely crazy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When Bloomberg reported that China was spying through mundane electronics manufactured there, many acted like it was crazy talk... and yet here we are with yet another report. What's going on?

    1. Re:Bloomberg report maybe not completely crazy? by Narcocide · · Score: 1

      Bloomberg's test units were sabotaged in-transit in an obvious way in order to specifically discredit Bloomberg and their testing methodology and their supply chain so that when a story like this later comes out nobody will believe it.

  5. Not that farfetched by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Dell's rather infamous for having a chip between your power adapter and laptop that cripples your machine's performance if it determines the power adapter is either missing the appropriate wattage or the 'authentic' chip that would tell it that this is the case. What more could that system do?

    1. Re:Not that farfetched by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have not heard of dell doing anything about "non-authentic" power bricks. However throttling based on the wattage of the power brick is smart. If you have a high performance workstation/gaming laptop that requires a 100w brick, but plug it into a 50w brick. Quite possible since Dell uses the same barrel connector on nearly all their power bricks. Then the laptop has to throttle. There is no way you can expect 100% performance off a power brick of half the power capability. You're either going to overload the power brick, or cause the voltage rails in your laptop to sag and the system to crash when it tries to gulp down 100w of power but the brick can only supply 50w

    2. Re:Not that farfetched by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dell's rather infamous for having a chip between your power adapter and laptop that cripples your machine's performance if it determines the power adapter is either missing the appropriate wattage or the 'authentic' chip that would tell it that this is the case.

      That really pissed me off. The "data" wire cracked in mine, and could take half an hour of fiddling with to get it to boot. I was stuck in a remote location at the time. At least I had a soldering iron. Cut the cable off and rebuilt it from scratch. Didn't look pretty, but it worked. I was surprised that I never got hassled by airport security over it.

  6. Next thing you know by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 3, Funny

    Next thing you know, you'll tell me that power lines can be used to provide high speed internet to devices, and it's relatively simple to use any USB device to do things, just like your keyboards as well as your microphones and cameras, even when you think they're off.

    oh

    wait

    it is

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    1. Re:Next thing you know by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Informative

      Next thing you know, you'll tell me that power lines can be used to provide high speed internet to devices,

      They can, but the signals don't tend to survive going through panels/breakers. Even the low-bitrate communications used in X10 home automation systems often have the same problem. If you got enough of them in your building they could bypass internal firewalls, but it's not a realistic way to get data out of a building.

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    2. Re:Next thing you know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Next thing you know, you'll tell me that power lines can be used to provide high speed internet to devices...

      If your mostly going for espionage for high tech and military secrets it doesn't make sense to spread a net too wide, unless your really sure you can never be caught. It would be better to have the hidden functionality but generally leave it off, until you identified some set of devices you wanted to exfiltrate data from.

      Basically for most people in day to day life, well your just not important enough for China to care about, or America for that matter. Of course as tech improves and the ways to manipulate people and peoples' digital avatars and information grow, then his becomes less true, but again you have to be sure that the backlash from being found out doesn't exceed the value gained from the actions done.

      Perhaps that is the real lesson, if your going to do large scale espionage of a country using all kinds of hidden spying devices you should first make sure to get your guy in charge so he can cover for you. See 2016.

    3. Re:Next thing you know by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

      If your mostly going for espionage for high tech and military secrets it doesn't make sense to spread a net too wide, unless your really sure you can never be caught. It would be better to have the hidden functionality but generally leave it off, until you identified some set of devices you wanted to exfiltrate data from.

      Very correct. The only time you go for wide net is when it's hard to get in, and you turn someone to activate it who is inside, or to set up a repeater/translator.

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    4. Re:Next thing you know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Next thing you know, you'll tell me that power lines can be used to provide high speed internet to devices,

      They can, but the signals don't tend to survive going through panels/breakers. Even the low-bitrate communications used in X10 home automation systems often have the same problem. If you got enough of them in your building they could bypass internal firewalls, but it's not a realistic way to get data out of a building.

      Transformers are the big roadblocks.

  7. This is beyond stupid. by gweihir · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Apparently, these US companies have nobody left that understands technology. Such an attack would be both ineffective and far, far more expensive than other possibilities. Requires some minimal actual knowledge of IT security to see that though, but all these people seem to have is irrational fear.

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    1. Re:This is beyond stupid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude. China is just a jobber putting together technology designed in the US while pilfering as much technology as possible in the process. And now there are cheaper manufacturing options outside of China's control. And there be problems in the very short term if the US stops importing Chinese manufactured technology the US can source technology manufacturers or bring the manufacturing back in-house while China would be ultimately fucked. Once technology from China is labeled a security risk other countries will start looking else where. China will be left with Iran and NK as their biggest technology export markets.

    2. Re:This is beyond stupid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Somebody watches too much FOX news alert". You all ain't too smart you realize? Go back to hill billy country.

    3. Re:This is beyond stupid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're the same guy who denied that those "other possibilities" existed after the Forbes article about a similar attack vector.

    4. Re: This is beyond stupid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All the top IT manufacturers including wafer fab in China are Taiwanese, a place which theorically is still at war with China since 1949.

    5. Re:This is beyond stupid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually have to unscrew and test all powerpoints in high security places. I think China is plotting to have 'made in one or more of the following countries; labels so to get around import tax should it be imposed.

    6. Re:This is beyond stupid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I put it in the same category as all the other lefty idiocy.... Russia Russia Russia!

    7. Re: This is beyond stupid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But it's the right that's screaming China China China.

      Funny how that works.

  8. Spying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Doesn't just need to be the cord.
    There are a great many creative ways to spy and sneak data out. And yes, one of them could be through malware, a compromised motherboard, then the computer's power supply, then the cord. If your gut reaction is "data over wall power AC? that's unpossible" you may have forgotten that X10 and powerline communication exist.
    I doubt this is actually happening but it's well within the realm of possibility.

    1. Re:Spying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Grounding is a problem as well considering side-channel attacks. But that requires physical access near the premises anyway as do those telescope and a solution to the inverse problem powered screen reading attacks. A malware modulating the power draw with an antenna embedded in the cable still requires the compromised system and almost local access.

  9. I'm not sure this should have leaked. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not sure this should have leaked. Knowledge that China spies on computers via hacked power cords is going to make it harder for the NSA to spy on computers via hacked power cords.

    1. Re: I'm not sure this should have leaked. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Well power chords are impossible to overlook. They just go on and on. You could take a nap during one.

    2. Re:I'm not sure this should have leaked. by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Nobody is spying via hacked power cords. It does not make sense technologically. Like at all.

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    3. Re:I'm not sure this should have leaked. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Nobody is spying via hacked power cords. It does not make sense technologically. Like at all.

      Well, nobody is spying via hacked power cords alone. You could hide a MCU with wifi and a camera and/or mic in one easily enough, but it would have to have a network to connect to... And nobody's dumb enough to have open networks in their corporation connected to the internet, right? RIGHT? Hmm... no, they probably are. So it makes at least a little sense.

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    4. Re:I'm not sure this should have leaked. by Mark+of+the+North · · Score: 1

      I'm not so sure about that. Everything needed to connect to a WiFi network could be hidden in a power cable, both easily and cheaply. Once powered, the "SmartCable" could look for an open network, or use known exploits to attack a secure WiFi network. There would be plenty of time. If it ever successfully connects, it could report home, do a firmware update, and wait for commands. Throw tens of thousands of these cords into the markets of your target, and some of them are bound to turn up something juicy.

      The only problem would be that this would be easy to find. A dumb power cord really shouldn't have an MCU. Once there was evidence of this going on, trust in anything manufactured in China would fall substantially.

      But this is all conspiracy theory until someone finds some hard evidence, but the fact that some tech firms are taking actually switching suppliers definitely gives me pause.

    5. Re:I'm not sure this should have leaked. by gweihir · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Nobody is spying via hacked power cords. It does not make sense technologically. Like at all.

      Well, nobody is spying via hacked power cords alone. You could hide a MCU with wifi and a camera and/or mic in one easily enough,

      Actually, that would be pretty hard. The problem is ironically that you need power and even a small PSU needs a transformer of a size that is not easily hidden because you cannot use mains power directly. Also, the PSU will be less efficient because of it small size and hence heat up and that is noticeable. And said PSU will create interference. And it will be easy to find by measuring capacitance between wires. And some other potential problems I am currently to lazy to examine in detail. Placing something like that in an USB cord is relatively easy, but in a power cord it is not.

      No, sorry. The idea is a pure amateur-level fantasy. Any reasonably competent engineer will go for other options.

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    6. Re:I'm not sure this should have leaked. by gweihir · · Score: 1

      You may not be, but I am sure. This does not make sense, both directly because of severe problems and limitations and indirectly because other options are better. Now, hiding such things in a power adapter, for example, that is something else. But plugs and cords? No. Pure amateur-level fantasy.

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    7. Re:I'm not sure this should have leaked. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Placing something like that in an USB cord is relatively easy, but in a power cord it is not.

      If they've got supposed ferrite beads, the transformer is easily placed there. You also don't actually need a transformer. You would be able to find it by measuring capacitance, but you would have to be looking for it.

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    8. Re:I'm not sure this should have leaked. by gweihir · · Score: 1

      For a power cord, you need the transformer. The only other option (high-voltage capacitor and mains-voltage level circuitry) is even larger and produces a lot more heat. And no, you cannot re-purpose a ferrite bead for that, the geometry is wrong. You seem to be forgetting that you have 3 rather thick copper wires in there and one of them is at mains voltage.

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    9. Re:I'm not sure this should have leaked. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No, you don't need a transformer. A capacitor, bridge rectifier and a linear regulator will very easily power an MCU and embedded wireless device. I've designed and built such a power supply for actually products you can buy off the shelf. They are very cheap, reliable, reasonably efficient, small, and make almost zero EMC noise. You only need a transformer if you want the output to be isolated from mains.

    10. Re:I'm not sure this should have leaked. by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      The NSA is the telco down the street.
      China still has to use wider US networks to get the data in and out.

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    11. Re:I'm not sure this should have leaked. by EETech1 · · Score: 1
    12. Re:I'm not sure this should have leaked. by gweihir · · Score: 1

      And they will be even larger and produce more heat than a transformer. You really are clueless how things actually work.

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    13. Re:I'm not sure this should have leaked. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Search online for the key word 'TEMPEST'.

      You are not paranoid if they really are out to get you...

    14. Re:I'm not sure this should have leaked. by gweihir · · Score: 1

      USB connectors are easy for this. Mains power connectors and cords are not.

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    15. Re:I'm not sure this should have leaked. by gweihir · · Score: 1

      I don't need to. I know about that project for around 30 years. The thing discussed in this story is not a TEMPEST attack.

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  10. Bloomberg report about Supermicro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is a good time to bring that up again.

  11. did anybody check those cords? by swschrad · · Score: 3, Informative

    the bump could be a ferrite. it could be a tap. easy enough to cut off the insulation on X number of cords and see what's there. or soak them in methylene chloride for a while.

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  12. Wrong target by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So, if you want to be paranoid, you have to ban everything made in China.

    Why China? China is only suspected of using consumer electronics to spy whereas we actually know for certain that the US government has been using consumer electronics to spy on people.

    1. Re:Wrong target by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Communism.

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  13. Dianose and treatment for the USA by hackingbear · · Score: 1

    ICD-10 Diagnose Code: F60.0

    Cause: a result of an underlying belief that other people are hostile [and long time spying on others] in combination with a lack in self-awareness

    Treatment: hard to treat, i.e. a terminal illness.

    1. Re:Dianose and treatment for the USA by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Cause: a result of an underlying belief that other people are hostile [and long time spying on others] in combination with a lack in self-awareness

      China is the number one thief of IP while the US is the number two thief of IP. The later fact does not negate the former.

      It's not wrong for them to be concerned. Sure, it's hypocritical but it's not wrong.

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    2. Re:Dianose and treatment for the USA by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      It's not even hypocritical. US tech firms face an industrial espionage, not a foreign state attacking state secrets. In that regard when the person doing spying is the US government or another US entity there is actual legal recourse which limits commercial damage.

      The same cannot be said for Chinese industrial espionage where good luck suing a Chinese company about stolen IP.

    3. Re:Dianose and treatment for the USA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good luck fighting any FISA "court" warrant.

  14. Asleep for so long about China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just think the US has been asleep about China for a very long time. Hard to believe even tech companies are just now questioning China and how it affects their products security. I would guess probably about 80% of China technological advancements have come from US and UK espionage from China. Serious, when you think about how much technology our military uses that originates from China in the form of parts. We shouldn't be so dumb to think China wouldn't exploit this.

  15. Yes! by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is the proper level of "paranoia" required to keep data secret! However, US tech companies should also be having the realization that they need to stop selling/enabling insecure products because the buyers may end up being their workers. Hack a worker's wireless printer via internet (easy), move laterally via bluetooth to their smartphone (outdated and insecure) and you have a remote surveillance device in your "secure" workplace. Each step of insecurity brought to you by good ol' US tech companies.

    There is so much insecurable crap in computers and products that it's going to be a monumental task to actually secure companies. Sure hope PS/2 keyboards and mice are coming back into fashion because USB is a security nightmare.

    You reap what you sow, US tech companies!

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    1. Re:Yes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If PS/2 is to make a comeback they better fix that issue where hotplugging PS/2 devices comes with a risk of shorting the port on your I/O connectors. Would an I/O shield protect against that?

  16. Chinese should be ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

    ... proud that their country hosts hackers that are the envy of the world. There are major roles in movies that glamorize the nerdy hacker.

    The USA, meanwhile, represents the gullible victim.

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  17. "If you're listening to this?" apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "If you're listening to this? You ARE the resistance..." https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    * "I'm Reese - Sgt. TechCom DN38416 ASSIGNED TO PROTECT YOU - You've been TARGETTED for TERMINATION..."

    APK

    P.S.=> "Food 4 Thought" that post - I ran into it myself, baffled even L1/L2 + NOC personnel @ SPECTRUM why - take a read, YOU judge for yourself (I already did LONG ago, hope I am WRONG)... apk

  18. CALLING ALL HACKINGBEARS! HACKINGBEAR DO YOU READ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hackingbear you are summoned by the grand imperial faggot of China to defend the Communist Party's many facets and companies from western detection! Remember hackingbear, your mother is dangling over a hot pot as we speak!

    Your propaganda must defend China's good name as a safe, fair country of well-enforced laws and nothing else! Certainly no history of espionage or authoritarian autocracy and totalitarianism. Remember - China friendly, China gooood.

    Say it like the Party requires of you - OR YOUR MOTHER IS SOUP.

  19. Was that a Bloomberg news article... by ffkom · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... from the same "reliable" sources that still owe us a presentation of the spy-chips on the SuperMicro boards?

    1. Re:Was that a Bloomberg news article... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      ... from the same "reliable" sources that still owe us a presentation of the spy-chips on the SuperMicro boards?

      First, they scared us with their spy-chip in SuperMicro board fable. It flopped.

      They then came back with 'power cord sending critical info to Chicom' fairy tale. This also flops.

      I am sure they will be back again. Maybe this time they will put everything in, including Pen, Pencils, Erasers, Plastic Lego Bricks (now being manufactured in China), and of course, they will throw in that famous Kitchen Sink to make their story stick.

  20. Paranoia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Paranoia

  21. WHY CHINA? THE COUNTRY OF 1,000,000 UIGHURS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IN PRISON WITHOUT A TRIAL. Why China guys? Why China? Same as any other European Democracy with millions secretly disappeared for their ethnicity or religion, right guys? Why China guys? Guys? Guys? Why China? Why though?

    Roger get fucked to death with a spiked bat you fucking moron. Jesus Christ himself would strangle you in the crib. APOLOGIZE BETTER, SCUMBAG TOADY.

    1. Re: WHY CHINA? THE COUNTRY OF 1,000,000 UIGHURS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, why not the JewSA, we know for a FACT they murdered a million Iraqis.

    2. Re: WHY CHINA? THE COUNTRY OF 1,000,000 UIGHURS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uyghurs, aka part of that "wonderful" black pr campaign against China. Or as history will know it Europeans continuing war against brown people.

      If you really care about Muslims, US, how about you stop fucking and killing millions of them across the mid East.

  22. SPECTRUM USERS beware... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & imo (in modems w/ a login screen yet no routing (logon to WHAT is the question, right?)). WHY EVEN PUT LOGON CODE IN THEN @ ALL??

    I did as in years past & requested a modem w/ routing (for creating firewalling, port filtering, DNS change etc.).

    Got CANCELLED @ warehouse level!

    AFTER I went to Spectrum local outlets asking for a NEW modem w/ more than 1 port WHICH I DID IN THE PAST no problem & got before.

    They had no NEW DOCSIS 3.1 COMPLIANT MODEMS w/ more than 1 port @ LOCAL outlets (thus request to their warehouse THEIR PEOPLE DID 4 ME).

    I'm 'stuck' unless I buy a firewall router to bridge w/ a NO SECURITY "dumb brick" - I DON'T TRUST IT & I'd rather BUY an "ALL IN 1" cablemodem!

    EDIT: I got one (had to get separate router due to telephony use over IP here (no 'all in 1' modems had it @ BestBuy)).

    I need DNS change/portfilter/firewalling in a MODEM/ROUTER to AVOID a China TECHNICOLOR REBRAND modem that "ODDLY" has a LOGON SCREEN NOBODY CAN ACCESS: Not EVEN the ISP despite sending a bin config file & WHY A LOGON TO A MACID IN A NIC (dumb passthru)

    I had to RIG MY HOSTS FILE JUST TO SEE A LOGON SCREEN!

    (In other routing featuring modems they gave me in the past I never had THAT issue)

    Their techs @ ALL LEVELS SEE it on their private WAN they peer up to other networks (& THEY CAN' LOGON EITHER).

    QUESTION - WHY INSERT LOGON CODE INTO A DUMB MODEM?

    SCREAMS "bad" imo like a NETWORK OF ATTACK BOTS in remotely compromisable 'modems'!

    Funniest part was KHYBER (of all here on /.) AGREED w/ me on it https://slashdot.org/users2.pl... (post was deleted but SHOWS on his HISTORY screen)!

    APK

    P.S.=> CHINA = THIEVES https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    1. Re:SPECTRUM USERS beware... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ask yourself...did I really need to post this three times. Then smack yourself in the face.

  23. Is there really that much difference by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 2

    Is there really that much difference between China and Taiwan if China were going to have a backdoor installed into a product? (I'm not trying to start a debate on whether Taiwan is or isn't a part of China. Just pointing out that China's influence isn't that much reduced there.) If you were wanting to be protect yourself from Chinese backdoors then it would be better to choose one of the many other low cost production countries. Especially for something as simple as a power cord.

    However, this sounds like another BS don't trust the Chinese stories put out by the US government in order to further weaken trade between the two countries. The problem is these don't trust the Chinese government and businesses start becoming shortened to don't trust Chinese and it becomes ingrained into the nation if done for long enough.

    1. Re:Is there really that much difference by hackingbear · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The US has been making up various accusations against China pretty much after the collapse of the Soviet Union. (Before then, the US betrayed Taiwan and fell in bed with the "Chinese communist" in order to fight the all powerful SU.) The Americans have already been doped to say that China's evil, but their real votes are their pocket, just like they used to have the same split behavior toward the Japanese when Japan was all the rage of going to dominate the world -- after they "stole" / imitate US technology -- and the US started cracking down on the Japs. We should thank the self-contradiction of the public, else the world would have fought a lot more wars.

      (Before the Japanese, the British treated Americans as thefts for the same IP theft accusations. History always repeats itself.)

  24. Losing the point by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 1

    IN PRISON WITHOUT A TRIAL.

    You seem to have lost the point here. We were talking about using consumer electronics to spy. However, since you do bring it up while it does do this on the same scale as China the US's record is pretty abysmal.

  25. US Calm down. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Despite your continuing genocide and oppression the world over not everyone is out to get you. So calm down and take some of what ever your pharmaceutical industry is pushing the most currently.

  26. Re:SPECTRUM USERS, beware... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dumbass APK can't figure out how to put OpenWRT on a router. Well that's no surprise.

  27. China should be proud ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Next thing you know, you'll tell me that power lines can be used to provide high speed internet to devices,

    They can, but the signals don't tend to survive going through panels/breakers. Even the low-bitrate communications used in X10 home automation systems often have the same problem. If you got enough of them in your building they could bypass internal firewalls, but it's not a realistic way to get data out of a building.

    Don't you ever think you can be safe from the prying eyes of those goddamn chinks !

    You ought to have known by now that China has the most uber hackers in the entire fucking universe !!

    They are so good that they have invented amazing gadgets, including power cords that can secretly send gazillion bytes of critical information back to the embrace of their evil Chicom servers.

    No piss-poor electric breaker gonna stop them chinks from achieving the impossible !!!

    1. Re:China should be proud ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      No piss-poor electric breaker gonna stop them chinks from achieving the impossible !!!

      Only Trump can do the impossible. Unfortunately, he can't do anything else.

  28. Setec Astronomy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The whole concept of intellectual property is indefensible, anyway. Innovation is dying. Patents, copyrights and trademarks are preventing real progress from happening, all in the name of making the rich even richer.

    Do Hollywood, Big Pharma, Apple, Nintendo, Sony BMG and Disney really need MORE money? No, they're stupid-wealthy already, but they are greedy bastards who use their control over the IP system to sue the balls off of anyone who not only wants to compete with them, but also people who want to make loving homages to their works.

    Art and culture will not die without these institutions. If anything, they'll thrive without them. Let the US and China steal IP, and I hope they do a terrible job at protecting what they steal. I hope for a future where everyone's IP is leaked out in the open being copied and reproduced by anyone with the facilities to do so at a rate that police would have no chance at keeping up with, to the point where they too give up.

    Too many secrets.

  29. Update: solved my problem w/ hosts... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: APK Hosts File Engine 1.0++ 64-bit for MacOS h t t p : / / a p k . i t - m a t e . c o . u k / A P K H o s t s F i l e E n g i n e F o r M a c O S . z i p

    Yields more security/speed/reliability/anonymity vs. any 1 solution (99% of threats use hostnames vs. IP address most firewalls use) more efficiently/FASTER + NATIVELY 4 less!

    Vs. "Bolt on 'MoAr' illogic-logic" slowing you hosts speed u up 2 ways: Adblocks + Hardcode fav. sites u spend most time @ vs. competition loaded w/ security bugs (DNS/AntiVir) + overheads slowing u (messagepass 'souled-out' to advertisers easily detected & blocked addons + firewall filtering drivers) & their complexity leads to exploitation!

    * ONLY 1 of its kind in GUI 4 MacOS!

    (Better vs. Windows model in speed/efficiency)

    APK

    P.S.=> Protects against ALL known & unknown vulnerabilities. Now supports port filters in hosts. My work is world-class & China copied it because they can't do better. I am God's gift to Slashdot... apk

  30. Update: solved my problem w/ hosts... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: APK Hosts File Engine 1.0++ 64-bit for MacOS h t t p : / / a p k . i t - m a t e . c o . u k / A P K H o s t s F i l e E n g i n e F o r M a c O S . z i p

    Yields more security/speed/reliability/anonymity vs. any 1 solution (99% of threats use hostnames vs. IP address most firewalls use) more efficiently/FASTER + NATIVELY 4 less!

    Vs. "Bolt on 'MoAr' illogic-logic" slowing you hosts speed u up 2 ways: Adblocks + Hardcode fav. sites u spend most time @ vs. competition loaded w/ security bugs (DNS/AntiVir) + overheads slowing u (messagepass 'souled-out' to advertisers easily detected & blocked addons + firewall filtering drivers) & their complexity leads to exploitation!

    * ONLY 1 of its kind in GUI 4 MacOS!

    (Better vs. Windows model in speed/efficiency)

    APK

    P.S.=> Protects against ALL known & unknown vulnerabilities. Now supports port filters in hosts. My work is world-class & China copied it because they can't do better. I am God's gift to Slashdot... apk

  31. Update: solved my problem w/ hosts... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: APK Hosts File Engine 1.0++ 64-bit for MacOS h t t p : / / a p k . i t - m a t e . c o . u k / A P K H o s t s F i l e E n g i n e F o r M a c O S . z i p

    Yields more security/speed/reliability/anonymity vs. any 1 solution (99% of threats use hostnames vs. IP address most firewalls use) more efficiently/FASTER + NATIVELY 4 less!

    Vs. "Bolt on 'MoAr' illogic-logic" slowing you hosts speed u up 2 ways: Adblocks + Hardcode fav. sites u spend most time @ vs. competition loaded w/ security bugs (DNS/AntiVir) + overheads slowing u (messagepass 'souled-out' to advertisers easily detected & blocked addons + firewall filtering drivers) & their complexity leads to exploitation!

    * ONLY 1 of its kind in GUI 4 MacOS!

    (Better vs. Windows model in speed/efficiency)

    APK

    P.S.=> Protects against ALL known & unknown vulnerabilities. Now supports port filters in hosts. My work is world-class & China copied it because they can't do better. I am God's gift to Slashdot... apk

  32. Here's how I resist China & Juden scum... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: APK Hosts File Engine 1.0++ 64-bit for MacOS h t t p : / / a p k . i t - m a t e . c o . u k / A P K H o s t s F i l e E n g i n e F o r M a c O S . z i p

    Yields more security/speed/reliability/anonymity vs. any 1 solution (99% of threats use hostnames vs. IP address most firewalls use) more efficiently/FASTER + NATIVELY 4 less!

    Vs. "Bolt on 'MoAr' illogic-logic" slowing you hosts speed u up 2 ways: Adblocks + Hardcode fav. sites u spend most time @ vs. competition loaded w/ security bugs (DNS/AntiVir) + overheads slowing u (messagepass 'souled-out' to advertisers easily detected & blocked addons + firewall filtering drivers) & their complexity leads to exploitation!

    * ONLY 1 of its kind in GUI 4 MacOS!

    (Better vs. Windows model in speed/efficiency)

    APK

    P.S.=> Protects against ALL known & unknown vulnerabilities. Now supports port filters in hosts. My work is world-class & China copied it because they can't do better. I am God's gift to Slashdot... apk

  33. Pfft tin foil hat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is the stuff insane people used to say.

    Or maybe they weren't insane?

  34. Still IMPERSONATING me JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MacOS model's not done: Stop IMPERSONATING me lying & proof portfilter err's can't happen in my work https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

    HILARIOUS u ADMIT u have a /. acct & STALK me by UNIDENTIFIABLE ac https://hardware.slashdot.org/... - YOU have ISSUES, lunatic.

    See subject & that's the "best ya got"? It proves You WISH you were ME (as your POOR imitation = the sincerest form of flattery).

    Instead of WASTING your life STALKING me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts OR IMPERSONATING me (since you WISH you were me)? Make a Wheel https://isc.sans.edu/forums/di... as I have that gives users more speed/security/reliability & anonymity NATIVELY doing more for less vs. ANY single 'solution' out there!

    * LASTLY - the ONLY time you start IMPERSONATING me vs. STALKING me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anon posts is WHEN YOU ARE OUT OF "downmodpoints" I can easily NULLIFY by REPOSTING my posts RUNNING YOU DRY of them after you ABUSE them - I must've already, lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> I know WHY you do it though (out of "butthurt angst", lol): I've BLOWN YOU AWAY so many times under your MANY alter-ego SOCKPUPPET /. accounts FAKENAMES you're out for "revenge" only to have EGG ON YOUR FACE yet again https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... + STILL YET AGAIN, lol https://it.slashdot.org/commen... ... apk

    1. Re:Still IMPERSONATING me JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      u mad bro?

    2. Re:Still IMPERSONATING me JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the hell is a "jowie"?

      You are fuckin nuts dude.

  35. Yes I did to run you DRY of "downmodpoints" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes I did to run you DRY of "downmodpoints" you PITIFUL unidentifiable anonymous STALKER of myself hahahahahaha!

    APK

    P.S.=> It always does the trick to BLOW YOUR ASS AWAY easily, lol... apk

    1. Re:Yes I did to run you DRY of "downmodpoints" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't have any mod points because I'm AC, genius. People mod you down because you triple post spam and stupid off topic shit. But you're too dense to realize that.

  36. Still IMPERSONATING me JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MacOS model's not done: Stop IMPERSONATING me lying & proof portfilter err's can't happen in my work https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

    HILARIOUS u ADMIT u have a /. acct & STALK me by UNIDENTIFIABLE ac https://hardware.slashdot.org/... - YOU have ISSUES, lunatic.

    See subject & that's the "best ya got"? It proves You WISH you were ME (as your POOR imitation = the sincerest form of flattery).

    Instead of WASTING your life STALKING me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts OR IMPERSONATING me (since you WISH you were me)? Make a Wheel https://isc.sans.edu/forums/di... as I have that gives users more speed/security/reliability & anonymity NATIVELY doing more for less vs. ANY single 'solution' out there!

    * LASTLY - the ONLY time you start IMPERSONATING me vs. STALKING me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anon posts is WHEN YOU ARE OUT OF "downmodpoints" I can easily NULLIFY by REPOSTING my posts RUNNING YOU DRY of them after you ABUSE them - I must've already, lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> I know WHY you do it though (out of "butthurt angst", lol): I've BLOWN YOU AWAY so many times under your MANY alter-ego SOCKPUPPET /. accounts FAKENAMES you're out for "revenge" only to have EGG ON YOUR FACE yet again https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... + STILL YET AGAIN, lol https://it.slashdot.org/commen... ... apk

  37. Still IMPERSONATING me JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MacOS model's not done: Stop IMPERSONATING me lying & proof portfilter err's can't happen in my work https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

    HILARIOUS u ADMIT u have a /. acct & STALK me by UNIDENTIFIABLE ac https://hardware.slashdot.org/... - YOU have ISSUES, lunatic.

    See subject & that's the "best ya got"? It proves You WISH you were ME (as your POOR imitation = the sincerest form of flattery).

    Instead of WASTING your life STALKING me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts OR IMPERSONATING me (since you WISH you were me)? Make a Wheel https://isc.sans.edu/forums/di... as I have that gives users more speed/security/reliability & anonymity NATIVELY doing more for less vs. ANY single 'solution' out there!

    * LASTLY - the ONLY time you start IMPERSONATING me vs. STALKING me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anon posts is WHEN YOU ARE OUT OF "downmodpoints" I can easily NULLIFY by REPOSTING my posts RUNNING YOU DRY of them after you ABUSE them - I must've already, lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> I know WHY you do it though (out of "butthurt angst", lol): I've BLOWN YOU AWAY so many times under your MANY alter-ego SOCKPUPPET /. accounts FAKENAMES you're out for "revenge" only to have EGG ON YOUR FACE yet again https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... + STILL YET AGAIN, lol https://it.slashdot.org/commen... ...apk

  38. It wasn't a ROUTER stupid... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject; It was a DUMB "BRICK" modem, 1 port which I noted, no ROUTING FUNCTION. You f'd yourself w/ your BIG mouth dumbo!

    APK

    P.S.=> Thanks for showing EVERYONE HOW STUPID YOU ARE, lol... apk

    1. Re:It wasn't a ROUTER stupid... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So spend between about $25 and $200 on a desktop router depending on how fancy you want the hardware to be and install DD-WRT or OpenWRT on it if you don't like or trust the manufacturer's firmware. (I think that was the meaning of the post from the person you replied to).

    2. Re:It wasn't a ROUTER stupid... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Correct. But it's APK and he's got a double digit IQ. So here we are.

  39. Still IMPERSONATING me JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MacOS model's not done: Stop IMPERSONATING me lying & proof portfilter err's can't happen in my work https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

    HILARIOUS u ADMIT u have a /. acct & STALK me by UNIDENTIFIABLE ac https://hardware.slashdot.org/... - YOU have ISSUES, lunatic.

    See subject & that's the "best ya got"? It proves You WISH you were ME (as your POOR imitation = the sincerest form of flattery).

    Instead of WASTING your life STALKING me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts OR IMPERSONATING me (since you WISH you were me)? Make a Wheel https://isc.sans.edu/forums/di... as I have that gives users more speed/security/reliability & anonymity NATIVELY doing more for less vs. ANY single 'solution' out there!

    * LASTLY - the ONLY time you start IMPERSONATING me vs. STALKING me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anon posts is WHEN YOU ARE OUT OF "downmodpoints" I can easily NULLIFY by REPOSTING my posts RUNNING YOU DRY of them after you ABUSE them - I must've already, lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> I know WHY you do it though (out of "butthurt angst", lol): I've BLOWN YOU AWAY so many times under your MANY alter-ego SOCKPUPPET /. accounts FAKENAMES you're out for "revenge" only to have EGG ON YOUR FACE yet again https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... + STILL YET AGAIN, lol https://it.slashdot.org/commen... ... apk

  40. That moment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That moment when your schizophrenic paranoia becomes real paranoia

  41. Deserved by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As a foreign civilian being spied on despite international agreements signed by the US, I think any spying against Americans is well deserved.

  42. After I totalled you here? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After I totalled YOU here https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... in my reply there YOU should be downmodded & BS you don't have an account. You ADMIT you DO & STALK me by AC stupid https://hardware.slashdot.org/... - YOU have ISSUES, lunatic.

    APK

    P.S.=> You lose as always dumbo... apk

    1. Re: After I totalled you here? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've been spamming slashdot for two decades and you still don't understand how AC posting or mod points work. Are you actually retarded?

    2. Re: After I totalled you here? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK made you look a total fool prove yourself to be when you thought it was a router he spoke of https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... and it's modem single port only pass through with no routing function. Apk cut you to bits on that. So much for your OpenWRT crap. All you can manage now is stalking him by unidentifiable anonymous like the shit you are or impersonating him which he catches proving you do. You are pitiful.

    3. Re: After I totalled you here? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, you are clearly retarded.

    4. Re: After I totalled you here? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apk proved you're retarded in reply to you https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... 1 port modem=no routing. Apk has a 1 port modem. You suggest OpenWRT for that? LOL!

    5. Re: After I totalled you here? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I never suggested OpenWRT for a modem. That's your lack of reading comprehension. And even after explaining it three times, you still don't understand. No wonder you're on welfare.

    6. Re: After I totalled you here? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous coward's on your post I replied to here + where APK shot you down https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... so who are you fooling other than yourself liar? YOU blew it. Don't try tell us neither one is you. You can't be believed. Everyone sees you stalk, harass, libel and lie about APK constantly, doing so by unidentifiable anonymous coward as you are now. Get a life. Accept you defeat yourself against APK constantly. You can try post bury this defeat. We all see it anyway. Most of us browse below 0 default 'downmodertion threshold' on slashdot. You lose, again.

  43. I did... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & search EDIT here https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    APK

    P.S.=> I had NO OTHER CHOICE (telephony was why, all in 1 units I saw didn't have it) since the SPECTRUM unit has NO ROUTING FUNCTIONS (SINGLE PORT ONLY - yet has a logon, which I oddly had to RIG MY HOSTS FILE TO USE, but to what & NOBODY can get in, not even SPECTRUM people) I had to buy a router... apk

    1. Re: I did... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just about everyone with cable internet uses a router. As usual your posts are off-topic and useless.

      You don't trust the firmware in a standalone router, but you would trust it in a modem/router combo? They're all made in China. You are a certified moron.

    2. Re: I did... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You overlooked APK's issue's no router! It's 1 port modem\no routing function https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... , so your OpenWRT was dumb to suggest. He uses routers and modems and said so too https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... and most likely due to your noob by rote self screwing the above up it shows you are a rookie. Apk is old. Legendary online. He probably used routers long before you even started your stalk apk by unidentifiable anonymous wasted life and your further hubris of the defeated rants now only show you are stupid against that 1st link where APK cleaned your clock due to your stupidity and autistic inability to read.

    3. Re: I did... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For the last time. You buy the router yourself. This has been the SOP for cable internet for over 20 years. My god you are an idiot.

      The premise of your entire post was needing a modem/router combo, because you don't trust the standalone router. That's what OpenWRT is for. So no, it's not "dumb to suggest." It's literally the solution to your problem. Something you can't seem to comprehend.

      It's always obvious when you've lost an argument and become desperate because you bring in your imaginary friends to back you up.

  44. WRONG on me but you prove YOU DO, lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WRONG on me but you prove YOU DO after I had to correct your dumbass here https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    APK

    P.S.=> As always, vs. me? You LOSE... apk

    1. Re: WRONG on me but you prove YOU DO, lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Congrats, you continue to make a fool of yourself. Dumbass.

    2. Re: WRONG on me but you prove YOU DO, lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You made a fool of yourself by you not seeing APK wrote it's a 1 port modem, not a router. No routing function for OpenWRT, no features he needs.

  45. CAN'T YOU READ? I DID & SAID SO... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    CAN'T YOU READ? I DID & SAID SO (search EDIT here https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    I've probably done bridging routing modems with ROUTERS (NOT the single port NO ROUTING passthru dumb brick I have NOTING THAT & YOU OVERLOOKED IT TOO, lol https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...) most likely BEFORE YOU WERE ALIVE!

    * GET IT STRAIGHT - I got one (had to spend & used to be TimeWarner/Spectrum used to GIVE YOU ONE gratis - no more), & I have said so REPEATEDLY!

    LEARN TO READ & you also BLEW IT https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... BAD vs. me, lol - your BIG MOUTH shot you down!

    APK

    P.S.=> I also checked the "errata" for the NEW router I have & patches were issued for ANY known issues (very solid - I'm impressed in fact) - I don't require any more than it has in it (rest I do OS/software/IP stack side for security) BUT what does worry me (not me anymore - more for other spectrum users MINUS routers, & many won't do it (no perceived need for security features I DEMAND & USED TO GET from Spectrum (timewarner etc.) & no longer do)? Others may not be aware of it, so I put this warning out & say that "I hope I am wrong" repeatedly too (only thing is? I'm PRETTY SURE I'm not & the L1/L2 + even NOC personnel @ SPECTRUM agree w/ me (why put logon code onto a dumb brick? WHO can LOGON (someone can for sure) & to WHAT exactly on the dumb passthru no routing 'modem'??))... apk

  46. Projecting you're on welfare now too? LOL... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Projecting you're on welfare now too & that you can't READ? After your BLUNDER https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... & I spoke of modems NOT a router? I believe you probably are on welfare.

    * Me? I've run a SUCCESSFUL business here for going on a decade++ now - I haven't HAD to work for ANYONE other than myself in that timeframe (though occasionally I will consult/contract for interesting computer jobs in code OR networking professionally thru various 'headhunters' IF time permits).

    (NOW, as others have said who are following all this? Everyone SEES you STALK me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous OR IMPERSONATE me too - do you know how CHILDISH you look doing that, psycho-boy?? Clue: VERY!)

    APK

    P.S.=> YOU LEARN TO READ - I wasn't talking about a ROUTER @ ALL dumbo (rather a modem in that link above + ones before it)... apk

  47. Re:Projecting you're on welfare now too? LOL... ap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your original post, which exists in triplicate for all to read, is you bitching about your cable modem not having a router built-in.

    "I'm 'stuck' unless I buy a firewall router to bridge w/ a NO SECURITY "dumb brick" - I DON'T TRUST IT & I'd rather BUY an "ALL IN 1" cablemodem!" - APK

    You are clearly talking about a router. I told you to put OpenWRT on your router. Not your modem. Your only argument is "HERP DERP, YOU CAN'T PUT OPENWRT ON A MODEM." No shit sherlock. Nobody told you to. Where do you even come up with this garbage?

    Now I'm "stalking you" because I replied to your post? lol ok. You don't run a successful business. You don't even have a business license in the state of New York.

    You are a serial liar, and a bad one at that.

  48. Are you FUCKING STUPID? Yes... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even KHYBER (who is a multiple felon & homosexual aberration, but not totally stupid - Yes, I'll give him that) agrees w/ me https://slashdot.org/users2.pl... (post was deleted but SHOWS on his HISTORY screen)

    * SO DO ALL OF SPECTRUM'S FOLKS (L1/L2 up to NOC (which I know the skill levels here - I was ONE of the latter 2 for CableVision & can go back ANYTIME I LIKE when I left - they literally TOLD me that since I solved some problems for them they faced suits over)).

    THIS IS WHAT YOU SAID https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... & I CORRECTED YOUR DIMWIT white mouse level 'brain' (lol)!

    ( & even Khyber SAW I bitched about the MODEM dumbass (do you have ADHD/ADD or are you an "AUTISMO" lol? My guess is yes - you brain damaged inferiors are NOTORIOUS for your INABILITY to communicate let alone READ right)).

    APK

    P.S.=> LMAO - & who/what are YOU? Ok - I'll TELL you (you've already shown everyone anyhow, lol, this is just a 'refresher'): You're a DIMWIT do-NOTHING zero "ne'er-do-well" NOBODY & everyone KNOWS it (except you? NO - I think you DO know it of yourself, & WHY you 'stalk me' & IMPERSONATE me too (you WISH you were me, you pitiful LOSER, lol)... apk

    1. Re: Are you FUCKING STUPID? Yes... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ROFL. Why would anyone want to be you? You are a pathetic loser.

    2. Re: Are you FUCKING STUPID? Yes... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Show us you own your own home, vehicle etc. paid in full as APK does. You have to show us you do better wares even /.ers like. He can. SHOW US.

    3. Re: Are you FUCKING STUPID? Yes... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol u mad bro? Your address is not hard to find. I already know you live in a dump and drive a hooptie. Pretty sad for a guy in his 50s with a "successful business." Hahaha.

    4. Re: Are you FUCKING STUPID? Yes... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You were asked to prove you've done better than apk whom you stalk and that you have a home\vehicle paid in full. You can't loser. You also can't in software accomplishment. You have embarassed yourself. I suspect it's not new for you considering how you hide behind unidentifiable anonymous stalking apk and failing on every level you project you fail on.

    5. Re: Are you FUCKING STUPID? Yes... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't need prove anything to you APK. I'm not an insecure retard such as yourself.

      You, on the other hand, have done a great job at proving you are a loser, a liar, and batshit crazy. Have a nice day :)

    6. Re: Are you FUCKING STUPID? Yes... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to APK. He knows you. To me you do but prove you're JEALOUS lil' jowie he calls you. A half wit with nothing to your credit at all in life.