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Ajit Pai's Rosy Broadband Deployment Claim May Be Based On Gigantic Error (arstechnica.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: Pai's claim was questionable from the beginning, as we detailed last month. The Federal Communications Commission data cited by Chairman Pai merely showed that deployment continued at about the same rate seen during the Obama administration. Despite that, Pai claimed that new broadband deployed in 2017 was made possible by the FCC "removing barriers to infrastructure investment." But even the modest gains cited by Pai rely partly on the implausible claims of one ISP that apparently submitted false broadband coverage data to the FCC, advocacy group Free Press told the FCC in a filing this week.

The FCC data is based on Form 477 filings made by ISPs from around the country. A new Form 477 filer called Barrier Communications Corporation, doing business as BarrierFree, suddenly "claimed deployment of fiber-to-the-home and fixed wireless services (each at downstream/upstream speeds of 940mbps/880mbps) to census blocks containing nearly 62 million persons," Free Press Research Director Derek Turner wrote. "This claimed level of deployment stood out to us for numerous reasons, including the impossibility of a new entrant going from serving zero census blocks as of June 30, 2017, to serving nearly 1.5 million blocks containing nearly 20 percent of the U.S. population in just six months time," Turner wrote. "We further examined the underlying Form 477 data and discovered that BarrierFree appears to have simply submitted as its coverage area a list of every single census block in each of eight states in which it claimed service: CT, DC, MD, NJ, NY, PA, RI, and VA." In reality, BarrierFree's website doesn't market any fiber-to-the-home service, and it advertises wireless home Internet speeds of up to just 25mbps, Free Press noted.
BarrierFree appears to have ignored the FCC's instructions to report service only in census blocks in which an ISP currently offers service and instead simply "listed every single census block located in eight of the states in which it's registered as a CLEC [competitive local exchange carrier]."

As a result of BarrierFree's claimed level of deployment, it skewed the FCC's overall data significantly. "Pai claimed that the number of Americans lacking access to fixed broadband with speeds of at least 25Mbps down and 3Mbps up 'has dropped by over 25 percent, from 26.1 million Americans at the end of 2016 to 19.4 million at the end of 2017,'" reports Ars. "With BarrierFree's erroneous filing removed, 'the number of Americans lacking access to a fixed broadband connection at the 25Mbps/3Mbps threshold declined to 21.3 million, not 19.4 million,' Free Press wrote."

121 comments

  1. Meh. The claim wasn't impressive to begin with. by dgatwood · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Whether the number of people without broadband dropped from 7.7% in 2016 to is 5.9% or 6.5% in 2019, that's still only at most 1.8% in two years, versus 2.7% in the previous one year, under Obama and the Democrat-run FCC. So that's actually a really horrible level of growth.

    The numbers for 50 Mbps service are mostly meaningless when it comes to actual broadband growth. Every physical layer that can actually carry 25 Mbps service can also carry 50 Mbps service with only minor changes to the equipment at either end. The only thing that proves is that consumers are demanding more bandwidth.

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  2. Re: Meh. The claim wasn't impressive to begin wit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    Iâ(TM)d like to see the number of Americans with access to two or more providers at 25Mbps or higher. Show us how we are subjected to localized monopolies.

  3. Courier by US Robotics 9600 bps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Now that was living! Then 14400! And 19200, which somehow became 56k! 56k modem motherfucka! Living la vida loca!

    1. Re:Courier by US Robotics 9600 bps by ClickOnThis · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Now that was living! Then 14400! And 19200, which somehow became 56k! 56k modem motherfucka! Living la vida loca!

      Luxury! I remember 110 baud (yes, baud) modems that literally used your phone, with the receiver cradled in an acoustic coupler.

      Crimminy, these young'uns.

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    2. Re: Courier by US Robotics 9600 bps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's surprising, you should be suffering from dementia.

    3. Re:Courier by US Robotics 9600 bps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Duhhh back win i wuz a kid we didnt have da government regulating the internet duhhh

    4. Re:Courier by US Robotics 9600 bps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good catch on baud vs bps:
      https://www.electronicdesign.c...

      Crimminy, these young'uns.

      I sure hope creimy was still on 110 baud because this would limit the amount of spam links he could spread in a day.

      Crash Dummy Redux == CDR == Christopher Dale Reimer == creimer.
      Proof: They all post the same sock puppets karma whoring and/or bragging stories:
      Crash Dummy Redux:
      https://slashdot.org/comments....
      The Original CDR:
      https://ask.slashdot.org/comme...

      Last year, I proved to creimer that I was running a click bot to inflate the views on his stupid channel and he admitted it! He has even written about it on twitter, go check and you will see.

      I specifically targeted music videos to make him believe that he had just discovered a new Klondike! It was very funny to watch him come on Slashdot bragging about how much his new music videos were successful before I finally told him about the click bot!

      Then, when the party was over, I proved to him that I was the one inflating his views, I told him in advance that I would stop the views on one specific video which I did and he confirmed that fact on twitter.

      Well, he just posted a imaginary story here where he pretends that pedophiles were looking at his kid music video. Maybe he figures that pedophiles are better click bait material. My bot isn't a pedophile! No pedophiles looked at his video at all!

      See his post here:
      https://medium.com/@cdreimerth...

      He is such a liar and a thief! He will say or do anything just to get 1 click on his stupid videos which have amazon affiliate links attached to them all over the place!

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    5. Re:Courier by US Robotics 9600 bps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Duhhh back win i wuz a kid we didnt have da government regulating the internet duhhh

      If government regulation of the internet has anything to do with literacy, I think it shows.

    6. Re:Courier by US Robotics 9600 bps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmm, have you ever tried to edit a text document over a 300 baud modem? That requires various tricks to avoid causing the screen to scroll.

    7. Re:Courier by US Robotics 9600 bps by jimbo · · Score: 2

      My fondest memory is from when I replaced the USRobotics modem with a ZyXEL ISDN device. ISDN was amazing.

    8. Re:Courier by US Robotics 9600 bps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmm, have you ever tried to edit a text document over a 300 baud modem? ...

      Screens? We had TTY terminals connected with acoustic couplers to a PDP-8 in high school. I was so impressed when I encountered the brand new VT-100 in college.

    9. Re:Courier by US Robotics 9600 bps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you DO know that just shows how much of a powerless cuck you are, and how you're not yet beyond 14. Only the protected egos of the young teen find themselves inured from real life consequences of being such a childish asshat in public. Adults that act like you have had their head kicked in enough to either remove the problem or teach you to keep your yap shut.

    10. Re:Courier by US Robotics 9600 bps by NormalVisual · · Score: 1

      Yeah, ISDN was pretty cool if you were coming from dialup. Only thing I didn't like was being charged per channel, so I usually ran on a single channel and only switched to dual-channel when I really needed it. I had it for about five years, until I discovered that DSL was in fact available where I lived, contrary to what BellSouth's availability site said.

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    11. Re:Courier by US Robotics 9600 bps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmm, have you ever tried to edit a text document over a 300 baud modem? ...

      Screens? We had TTY terminals connected with acoustic couplers to a PDP-8 in high school. I was so impressed when I encountered the brand new VT-100 in college.

      [montypython]

      Oh, ~~YOU~~ had TTY terminals! Look at Mr. Fancy Trousers!

      Our father gave us one Morse Code key that my 7 brothers and I used to talk to friends he chose for us! And before that he burned our toys to make smoke signals!

      [/montypython]

  4. I worked for a company once by rsilvergun · · Score: 5, Informative

    that was in the process of sending our jobs to offshore. It was customer service and the only problem was the quality scores of the offshore folks were abysmal.

    Somehow or another an "error" occurred and all of the offshore scores got attributed to us. Not long after the jobs finished going overseas.

    You'll never once convince me that an "error" that benefits people in power is anything of the sort. Seen it way, way too often.

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    1. Re:I worked for a company once by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ^^ WHERE do they find these ridiculous nazi fagpuppets. It's not possible that Kendall has this many cousins living in his toughshed!

    2. Re:I worked for a company once by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Trump Jr employs undocumented workers for 25 years until NOW, when they finally realize people are checking the books, and they fire them expecting the problem to go away and dumb Republican faggots not to notice. Congratulations.

      You're a dumb nazi faggot.

    3. Re:I worked for a company once by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sort of the same shit here, but a whole very different big company (you may have heard about them in the news),
      SNC-Lavalin. I can remember hearing a lot about how shady their dealings were back in the 70's. 80's?

    4. Re:I worked for a company once by epine · · Score: 0

      You'll never once convince me that an "error" that benefits people in power is anything of the sort. Seen it way, way too often.

      All you manage to do with that attitude is cloud the difference, so that the real schnooks wind up pickled in the same barrel with the clueless, the clumsy, and the unfortunate.

      The schnooks truly love this service you're providing, by parking your C.R.M 144 Discriminator under a shady tree, may it rust in peace.

      Furthermore, the phrase "benefitting the people in power" provides immense scope to pluck hypothetical advantages out of your ass, unconstrained by harsh reality.

      The only way to effectively police malfeasance is to be attentive and astute to the difference. This takes actual cognitive labour. There are no handy shortcuts. You can't just spread cynicism over a bagel with lox and call it a day.

      Even Sesame Street makes hay with the distinction between the clumsy and the conniving.

      Who's the least plausible character in all of literature? The supervillain, for whom the toast always falls butter side up, and then the butter doesn't even melt in his mouth. For precisely this reason, the entire MCU universe functions as infantile wish fulfillment.

      I'll take my villain black please, with a 10-gallon black hat, an immaculate longhorn mustache, a private volcanic island, and orphanage bona fides grimmer than death.

    5. Re:I worked for a company once by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seen it way, way too often.

      Criminal negligence is still a thing? No? ok. I mean depending on who does it obviously. Na, Mr. Ajit soooo goofy. No need for him to go to prison for ever! Conflict of interest? Pfff.

    6. Re: I worked for a company once by kenh · · Score: 1

      So trump was wrong for hiring illegals AND was wrong for firing them.

      Amazingly, you are able to hold two conflicting ideas as true at the same time - Trump shouldn't have hired illegals, and trump shouldn't have fired them for being illegal.

      How long have you suffered with Trump Derangement Syndrome?

      --
      Ken
    7. Re: I worked for a company once by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Two wrongs don't make a write you cuck.

      Please takes trump's dick out of your mouth, it's bad for your health faggot.

    8. Re: I worked for a company once by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Learn how to write the right spelling of the words you mean.

      And besides, I can't blame Trump for hiring illegals in a country where law enforcement isn't bothering to do anything about it. When everyone else is doing it, you have to do it too if you want to survive. And that's the problem, and that's why we need law enforcement to enforce immigration laws: to ensure a level playing field.

      Otherwise, the market will choose to hire illegal immigrants, because it's the logical move. And I can't blame anyone from doing what the market dictates.

    9. Re: I worked for a company once by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please takes trump's dick out of your mouth, it's bad for your health faggot. Trump has made it his 1 issue to be anti-immigrants.

  5. Re:Meh. The claim wasn't impressive to begin with. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So "gigantic error" is the new euphemism for "lie," then?

    A lie is a poor substitute for the truth. But it's the only one we've invented so far.

  6. I don't understand by WaffleMonster · · Score: 2

    How it is even possible for FCC to fail basic sanity checking of deployment data.

    Given the number of small shops submitting data one would think FCC would be spending a significant amount of effort cross checking data.

    Simply overlaying providers broadband subscription with deployment for certain fixed access technologies would have instantaneously keyed FCC on to a problem. Claims of total state wide FTTP deployment of all things would be absolutely trivial to spot.

    1. Re:I don't understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You never encountered the person whose benefit came from denying all reality for the advancement of their own interests?

    2. Re:I don't understand by whoever57 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How it is even possible for FCC to fail basic sanity checking of deployment data.

      "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!"

      --
      The real "Libtards" are the Libertarians!
    3. Re:I don't understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How it is even possible for FCC to fail basic sanity checking of deployment data.

      You assume incompetence.
      It has been shown beyond doubt that Ajit Pai is a malicious actor.

      With that in mind it is pretty evident that FCC didn't fail sanity checking, they just ignored it.

    4. Re:I don't understand by Kjella · · Score: 1

      Or it's an effect of cost-cutting and automation demands. I work for an organization that's done a lot of manual vetting, fact-checking, reminders, warnings, follow-ups, massaging and approving of data. Basically some people expect us to screen everything for junk and what comes out in the other end should be as complete and correct as reasonably possible. This takes a lot of time and effort on our part and we're only supposed to do light QA but we did it anyway. There's now a big push for GIGO - garbage in, garbage out - instead of continuing to cuddle with and cover for them we want to it to go unaltered through non-stop to put it on display and push for consequences - legal, financial and in public relations.

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    5. Re:I don't understand by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

      How it is even possible for FCC to fail basic sanity checking of deployment data.

      "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!"

      Or plain old lying fits the bill as well.

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      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    6. Re:I don't understand by AndrewFlagg · · Score: 1

      he does not - but its a free world. once a tool, still a tool, always a tool. vote with your feet and your keystrokes.

    7. Re:I don't understand by WaffleMonster · · Score: 1

      Or it's an effect of cost-cutting and automation demands. I work for an organization that's done a lot of manual vetting, fact-checking, reminders, warnings, follow-ups, massaging and approving of data.

      Basically some people expect us to screen everything for junk and what comes out in the other end should be as complete and correct as reasonably possible.

      Apparently HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of dollars have been spent on the broadband map. This does not include any of the source data all of which is provided by third parties using a data exchange format of FCC's choosing.

  7. Mad Libs by SeaFox · · Score: 0

    Ajit Pai's Rosy Broadband Deployment Claim May Be Based On Gigantic Error

    Hmmm, I think someone's already used that noun to refer to the current POTUS. Isn't there any originality in journalism now?

  8. Alright, that's it. by ClickOnThis · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Look Slashdot. I am a firm believer in freedom of expression, even if it's something I don't agree with. In fact, I can tolerate it even if it's toxic.

    But when these troll-accounts keep submitting identical ASCII-art hate-speech that needs to be modded down before it disappears from all of our screens (at work or at home) then it's time to take action. I don't want to have swastikas or GNAA pictures for my co-workers to see. Do you really want to become an NSFW site?

    These sick people are playing you. They have a right to express themselves, but you, as a non-government entity, are not obliged to hand them a megaphone.

    For the love of FSM, do something! Create a -2 or -3 Karma, or blacklist sources or (quasi-identical posts) as spam. Most of us, whatever our position, want to engage in a rational dialogue here. Those who don't should be modded down to a faint whisper, if that.

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    1. Re:Alright, that's it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slashdot isn't going to change anything, because they revel in the muckraking these idiots do. This is the site now; abandon it or get used to it.

    2. Re:Alright, that's it. by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      Slashdot isn't going to change anything, because they revel in the muckraking these idiots do. This is the site now; abandon it or get used to it.

      They won't get ad revenue if their members don't visit the site. And many of them won't visit the site if there's a sudden unavoidable splash of swastikas or other racial content. These trolls are clever. They want to use Slashdot for their own purposes. Don't let them. Bury them into the basement.

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    3. Re:Alright, that's it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can you calm down, coordinate your intracranial explosions and express, what exactly is wrong with this post?

    4. Re:Alright, that's it. by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Don't browse at score 0, problem solved. Or am I missing something?

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    5. Re:Alright, that's it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't browse at score 0, problem solved. Or am I missing something?

      You miss a lot. The swill that some of these posters put onto slashdot sometimes rises above score 0. They open brand-new accounts on a regular basis to get above score 0, then open new ones when the karma is ruined.

    6. Re:Alright, that's it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. /. needs to long duration site-bans for any IP address that posts the garbage parent is talking about, even if there are legit users from that IP address. Unless the trolls have access to entire /16 or /8 networks, the spam would disappear entirely in a few weeks.

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    7. Re:Alright, that's it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, they're playing YOU. Slashdot is one of the few web sites which still allow anonymous posting, and it works due to the moderation system. It's not without faults, but if you browse at 1, which is the default, instead of 0, you won't see those trash comments.

    8. Re:Alright, that's it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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      |ccDOcNOTcc|
      |cFEEDcTHEc|
      |ccTROLLScc|
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      cccc|cc|cccc
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    9. Re: Alright, that's it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I filter after outstanding comments and see only those. Is there a problem doing that?

    10. Re:Alright, that's it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Which is great and works well if you're a regular user, but /. won't get any new people registering if they (by default) browse at 0 or -1.

      It should be relatively easy to auto-mod down people posting ascii-art, and run a lexical+regexp analysis of the text posted (obviously the N[.?]+ bomb should never appear in legitimate posts, 99.999% of the time etc - so auto-mod down those to -2 straight away, then people can mod-up if they care). There would be people trying to get around this, but because if would then be an effort-based approach to spamming, those people may give up relatively quickly.

      And for people up-voting the GNAA crap and other hate posts, it would be then simply to log those particular accounts, and apply a negative weight to any further posts they try to mod, ever. (and new accounts have small mod weights to begin with until some contribution based or rating based system that can detect positive posts can update their weighting)

      A couple of small changes here and there would rapidly bring up the quality of comments on the site and finish off all that hate speech

    11. Re:Alright, that's it. by No+Longer+an+AC · · Score: 2

      I accidentally came into this thread browsing at -1. That was a mistake, but browsing at zero isn't too bad if you just accept that there may be some garbage to skip over. You can usually tell within the first few words.

      It sucks for ACs that are actually trying to contribute something worthwhile that a handful of abusive ACs lead most people just to ignore all of them.

      And before you say they should just get an account, I'm no longer an AC.

    12. Re:Alright, that's it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look Slashdot. I am a firm believer in freedom of expression, even if it's something I don't agree with. In fact, I can tolerate it even if it's toxic.

      But when these troll-accounts keep submitting identical ASCII-art hate-speech that needs to be modded down before it disappears from all of our screens (at work or at home) then it's time to take action. I don't want to have swastikas or GNAA pictures for my co-workers to see. Do you really want to become an NSFW site?

      These sick people are playing you. They have a right to express themselves, but you, as a non-government entity, are not obliged to hand them a megaphone.

      For the love of FSM, do something! Create a -2 or -3 Karma, or blacklist sources or (quasi-identical posts) as spam. Most of us, whatever our position, want to engage in a rational dialogue here. Those who don't should be modded down to a faint whisper, if that.

      Yeah. And it will neeeeever be abused by the groupthink to shut down anyone who goes against their agenda even harder, no sir!

    13. Re:Alright, that's it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Forcing people to browse only top rated posts *is* pushing people into submitting to groupthink, idiot.

    14. Re:Alright, that's it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about you stop browsing slashdot at work and do your damn job instead?

    15. Re:Alright, that's it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh... Slashdot has always been NSFW. Piss off.

    16. Re:Alright, that's it. by BytePusher · · Score: 1

      Slashdot isn’t going to do anything because no one works at Slashdot. They do the bare minimum to make the site function similarly to how it did in 1999. How hard is it to support Unicode in 2019? Yet here we are...

    17. Re:Alright, that's it. by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Forcing people to browse only top rated posts *is* pushing people into submitting to groupthink, idiot.

      When I get mod points, I open the level filter. You make a choice. Want to start a 1? open an account. Want to be a Coward? post and accept starting at 0. That's it. Simple. You can still pot your swastikas or homopsychosexual creepposts. But no one is obliged to see them. Groupthink.... that's funny.

      Cruising Slashdot at -1 is just like browsing without adblocking. No thanks.

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    18. Re:Alright, that's it. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Agreed. /. needs to long duration site-bans for any IP address that posts the garbage parent is talking about, even if there are legit users from that IP address.

      No, that's a terrible idea. Lots of small-to-medium-sized ISPs funnel all their web traffic through a single IP. I've been hit with IP bans before because of that kind of crap, and I'm not even in the same town as the offender.

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    19. Re:Alright, that's it. by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      When I get mod points, I open the level filter. You make a choice. Want to start a 1? open an account. Want to be a Coward? post and accept starting at 0. That's it. Simple.

      When I get mod points, I browse at -1. As the moderator guidelines say (or used to say?) you should be on the lookout for other abusive moderators, and have the chance to repair their harm.

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    20. Re:Alright, that's it. by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      When I get mod points, I open the level filter. You make a choice. Want to start a 1? open an account. Want to be a Coward? post and accept starting at 0. That's it. Simple.

      When I get mod points, I browse at -1. As the moderator guidelines say (or used to say?) you should be on the lookout for other abusive moderators, and have the chance to repair their harm.

      I tought that was what I said.

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    21. Re:Alright, that's it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remind me why we have to get new people?

      What is this obsession with new?

      Maybe we like it old and screwed up. Maybe someday it'll vanish like kuro5hin. And maybe that's just fine.

      I don't see the need for new people for the sake of being new. If they've got the nerve to wade in the deep end with us, then they're welcome to stay and bring new views.

      I'd rather see Slashdot burn out than fade into PC-induced mediocrity.

    22. Re:Alright, that's it. by weilawei · · Score: 1

      Did I miss something? An entire comment thread on this article just up and disappeared. Like... actual comments. The post count dropped from north of 90 to 84.

    23. Re:Alright, that's it. by weilawei · · Score: 1

      Apparently there are some mods abusing the system. I've been hanging around this story all morning, because it's Saturday and I can relax and be lazy reloading Slashdot.

      But I'm really irked. An entire comment thread, starting with a comment about the nature of the community filtering out easily offended people, just vanished. At least 6 posts.

    24. Re:Alright, that's it. by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2

      Slashdot has always had this stuff. The solution is not to brows at score 0 unless you're moderating. Jeez. Those people spend SO much time on their bullshit and so few people read it. There's no such thing as -2, by the way.

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    25. Re:Alright, that's it. by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      When I get mod points, I open the level filter. You make a choice. Want to start a 1? open an account. Want to be a Coward? post and accept starting at 0. That's it. Simple.

      When I get mod points, I browse at -1. As the moderator guidelines say (or used to say?) you should be on the lookout for other abusive moderators, and have the chance to repair their harm.

      I tought that was what I said.

      Sorry, I misunderstood what you meant when you said "open the level filter".

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    26. Re:Alright, that's it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Screw that! We don't need unicode.

      And I can verify that some posts have been deleted, which included some of my responses*, I know because I saved local copies of the page. The war has begun. And the censorship won't end here. It can only expand. Properly sanitized input instead will alleviate all problems. The GNAA is a false flag to get the more "sensitive" people riled up, and it's working like a charm. And they do have some funny shit buried in their posts. Too bad everybody's clutching their pearls over it!

      *who can resist, when you see Ich Bindawalross?

    27. Re: Alright, that's it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2 hours later and your post appears to still be one of the most recent. Current count is 94 (95 when this comment posts).

      I've personally run into caching a rendering issues where posts, most noticeably my own posts, would not display without toggling the comment filters and refreshing the page each time.

    28. Re:Alright, that's it. by weilawei · · Score: 1

      Want to share? I'd be happy to help repost the removed content.

      You know, I just emailed feedback@slashdot saying I'd like to donate--moments before those posts were removed. But I won't give an attocent if you're going to delete posts, objectionable or otherwise. Those comment threads weren't even shitposts--there was a debate going.

    29. Re:Alright, that's it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Censorship is fascism! No exceptions!

    30. Re:Alright, that's it. by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      When I get mod points, I open the level filter. You make a choice. Want to start a 1? open an account. Want to be a Coward? post and accept starting at 0. That's it. Simple.

      When I get mod points, I browse at -1. As the moderator guidelines say (or used to say?) you should be on the lookout for other abusive moderators, and have the chance to repair their harm.

      I tought that was what I said.

      Sorry, I misunderstood what you meant when you said "open the level filter".

      No problem - I did use non-standard terms.

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    31. Re:Alright, that's it. by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      But I'm really irked. An entire comment thread, starting with a comment about the nature of the community filtering out easily offended people, just vanished. At least 6 posts.

      I think I commented in that thread. It no longer exists. The post on my comments page goes to a page with a message that says as much.

      The thread did not begin with a comment about filtering out easily-offended people. It began with an offensive GNAA post that had an all-caps racially-explicit subject-line. It was followed by several posts denouncing it. And it was the first post. I think Slashdot nuked it. If they did, I don't blame them. You don't want a comment-thread with a subject-line like that as the first thing people see when they open the story.

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  9. Not a mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is effrontery and malice. You have to be 4 years old for that to count as error or mistake. Such intelligence level is enough barely to be a customer in a small town mom and pop store. I can not grasp how such actions, 180 opposed to the mission of the organisation can just be accepted. If such behavior would be allowed in military, 2/3 of your squad would be openly blown to pieces and he would just continue serving.

  10. Bold moves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Come here dear customers, lie down, mouth open. I am gonna protect you by excre... i mean providing better experience.

  11. Government Regulation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When I was a kid, the Internet I used was called DarpaNet, and managed by the military ( which, considering the level of civic education these days, is considered part of the government ).

  12. Adjust your filter settings. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Poof, they are gone.

    1. Re:Adjust your filter settings. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Poof, they are gone.

      If only.

  13. The problem with that is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    there are also political trolls here who have mod points and mod-down anything they disagree with even if its not one of those scumbaggery troll posts.
    This means that if you set your filter above 0 there are many perfectly good posts you will never see, so the trolls will have succeeded in getting you to strap on blinders and not read what some of them do not want you to read.

    Having said that, however, I do not advocate for the position of asking Slashdot to join Facebook, Twitter, etc in adding censorship. I'm rather weary of the dirtbaggery of people all over the web who never post any useful info, never post a reasoned argument, and seem to thrive on just shocking other people with savage insults and taunts and expletives. I still read Slashdot with my filter at 0, and I'm quite aware that not only are there lots of pigs on the web, but also that some are pigs in a perverse way - posting vile stuff that's designed to discredit the left, while actually being right wing, or conversely, posting vile stuff that's designed to look like it comes from the right and looks like the right but is actually from a left wing troll.

    The solution is simple: Freedom and personal responsibility and reason, NOT censorship. Live in the real world with eyes wide open and see all the good and all the bad, and do not fall into the trap of assuming you are always right about the identies and motives of either the best or the worst actors.

    1. Re:The problem with that is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The point was that, if you are in a place where you can't have swastikas, gay n*gger associations and host file proponents pop up on your screen, set the filter accordingly. Otherwise, if you want to escape the moderation hive mind, browse at 0 (or even -1) and just skip the vile stuff. Slashdot trolls aren't particularly clever, so skipping their excrement is easy.

      *) n*gger mutilation required by the lameness filter

    2. Re: The problem with that is... by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      There is a lameness filter that stops you from posting racial epithets and all-caps.

      Why can't the lameness filter stop people from posting near-identical ASCII art over and over and over again?

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    3. Re: The problem with that is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck off you commie. If I wanna call you a nigg3r fag than that's what we will do. Deal with it. This. Is. Slashdot.

      You must be new here. Newfangled!

  14. False headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Error" would imply the cause was an honest mistake, or simple incompetence. I think we're past the stage were such explanations had any credibility quite some time ago.

  15. not "errors".. but rather.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    blatant LIES... made by him skewing and exaggerating data, and providers reporting bogus data.

  16. Re:Meh. The claim wasn't impressive to begin with. by thegarbz · · Score: 2

    Every physical layer that can actually carry 25 Mbps service can also carry 50 Mbps service with only minor changes to the equipment at either end.

    That's not true, or rather is true only from the theoretical maximum for each technology ignoring distances and losses. The fastest phone based internet system available at a distance of more than 1.5km from an exchange is VDSL2 which clocks in at 25Mbps. There's no upgrade there. There's no possibility of speed increase without fundamental infrastructure changes. On top of that the boost over ADSL2+ was marginal since at 1.5km that 16 year old service was already able to deliver 21Mbps.

    This is precisely why pushing internet over phone is so expensive to upgrade, you either need to create many localised nodes to bring DSLAMs closer to the end user which requires rolling out of fibre for backhaul, or if you're already doing that you may as well just change the physical layer and roll out fibre to the user.

  17. That excuse doesn't fly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    because when you sell your internet connection at 25mbs,you claim UP TO. So that it can theoretically be 50mbps with a change to the hardware in the box is 100% valid ACCORDING TO ISP CLAIMS.

    If you want to refute the claim that the 50mbps is not valid for your current lie/excuse then you need to refute the claims of UP TO as being valid supply FIRST.

    1. Re:That excuse doesn't fly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not really.
      Instead you look at the intent of claiming "UP TO".

      It is very easy to see that the intent is to deceive and that the marketing is fraudulent.

      Being "technically correct" doesn't mean that the claim is legal.

  18. Or, in other words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The mantra I profess that supports free speech is a load of hogwash and I don't believe it in the least, only use it to protect the hate filled or lying speech I approve of. That mantra that I spout being "The only good way to deal with bad ideas is good ideas", that "market place of ideas" is a load of bollocks I only trott out to protect the vile stuff I approve of or to attack those I hate who made their opinion known (like the OP), I dont actually think you SHOULD answer the bad ideas of trolls with good ideas, so I either hate the marketplace of ideas or I will happily pick and choose when it applies to suit my personal agenda and progress my diatribe against those I don't like.

    Did I get that about right?

    Because it's either DNFTT and marketplace of ideas is bollocks or you should not be claiming DNFTT because the only good response is not censorship but good ideas ("Free Speech Uber Alles! Unless I don't like what you said...!").

  19. What's wrong with slashdot doing the filtering? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We don't distribute copyrighted works, nor kiddie porn, that already gets moderated out. So there's no reason for slashdot not to remove the trolls either. YOU cannot refuse the OP the right to make their case for censorship unless you want some ideas censored and refused, thereby making their case for them. Your ONLY non hypocritical option is to shut yer yap and let them have their say because you let the trolls have theirs without comment.

  20. Very different situations .... by King_TJ · · Score: 1

    I agree with what you're saying .... that businesses may purposely "make mistakes" that help them get an agenda through.

    That really doesn't sound like the same thing as asking every ISP in America to report its customer count, and having just about all of them do so properly except for ONE small provider? (It looks like they misinterpreted the instructions and marked off the population of their entire coverage area, vs. listing how many customers they actually had in those geographic areas they could potentially service.)

  21. Oh that's a hoot by Camarillo+Brillo · · Score: 2

    Wait.... that means that people in the Tramp administration are uninformed or lying...I can't believe that! Peace and Happiness Be Here Now

    1. Re:Oh that's a hoot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My assumption for ANYTHING out of the trump admin is "it is a lie" unless proven otherwise. The problem with always lying is at some point people assume the opposite is the truth.

    2. Re:Oh that's a hoot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait....
      that means that people in the Tramp administration are uninformed or lying...I can't believe that!

      Rookie logic error. It's not an "exclusive or".

  22. In quasi-fairness.... by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 3, Interesting

    To be somewhat fair, it's reasonable to expect an ever slowing rollout of service (outside disrupting technology). That's because obviously the easiest ones will be done first.

    That's not the full cause for the slowdown, of course. But it shouldn't be dismissed.

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  23. You can't make this stuff up. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh, wait, they did exactly that.

  24. And hackers, if you are listening.... by BrendaEM · · Score: 2

    For such a enemy of humanity's greatest invention, we really know very little about him.

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  25. Re:poopoo avenue by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

    Did they measure how many designated shitting streets there are in each census block?

    Where on earth did that come from?

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  26. Re:Meh. The claim wasn't impressive to begin with. by nasch · · Score: 2

    I don't know who's right, but this is talking about fixed broadband, so phone technologies are a different topic.

  27. Re:poopoo avenue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wild guess: India.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    Have you been in a coma for a decade?

  28. Some of your MBAs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...heard about "big data" and "AI". Now they feel forced to apply it to their own organization.

    Surely the "AI" will magically filter out the crap input ! And the more bigger the data the better, didn't you know ?

    Finally, all HI work will soon be done in South Butfuckstan, Caliphate of Pakistan. Way much cheaper than pesky Americans like you.

  29. No shit... by Chas · · Score: 1

    Color me stunned. Just stunned...

    Here's my "stunned" face. =|

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  30. Sandniggers have subverted white men by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sandn iggers have subverted white men. Are you proud white men going to stop this dirty sand n igger from taking your birthrights away?

  31. Re:Meh. The claim wasn't impressive to begin with. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The gigantic error was in pulling Ijit Pai off of his job as a telephone scammer and giving him/it any kind of responsibility!!!!!

  32. In statistics, this is know as "depravation bias" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Confirmation bias" is giving too much weight to measurements supporting the things you want to believe. "Depravation bias" is giving too much weight to measurements supporting the things you want others to believe.

    We are clearly talking about the latter in case of Ajit Pai's FCC since he does not even bother putting up a facade of sincerity.

  33. Gigantic Error by kenh · · Score: 1

    AKA, incorrect filing by a new company.

    Is that really 'gigantic'? Hyperbole much?

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  34. You DO know they are the same, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Telephone used to be used to carry digital information. See Baud. Then digital carried voice. See skype. They are the same goddamned thing.

    FFS see why ATM was invented you idiot.

    1. Re: You DO know they are the same, right? by nasch · · Score: 1

      I thought he was talking about cell phones. But thanks so much for your kind response and giving others the benefit of the doubt. You're really elevating the discourse. /s in case you can't figure that out.

  35. Remind me why we have to get trolls? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And why the fuck should anyone care what an inbred troll like you would prefer? Sure, trolls would prefer to see everything burn if they cannot abuse it to troll. News at fucking 11.

  36. And I'm still wondering by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    how you became the arbiter of how offended people are allowed to be. Especially since you demanded to know why I got to claim what was valid information (when we already have a way to define it:: reality). There's no right to offend. So why do you decide that it is RIGHT to offend people deliberately and then blame them for being offended when that is what you tried to do. And why do you "defend" your trolling with "there's no right to not get offended". There's no right to do what you did either, fuckwit.
    You're like a sexual offender who keeps on trying harder and harder with a woman until she complains and then berate her for letting you do it.
    Oh and good one on changing what the thread started with so that you get to paint the correct moderation as wrong by strawmanning it to "definitionally bad".

    1. Re:And I'm still wondering by weilawei · · Score: 1

      I don't want anything removed. It's also okay and normal to be offended at things.

      Being offended is not mutually exclusive to free speech. It's only when authoritarians like yourself suggest that an external third party to my own brain should be allowed to decide what I see that there becomes an issue.

  37. Re:Meh. The claim wasn't impressive to begin with. by dgatwood · · Score: 1

    That's not true, or rather is true only from the theoretical maximum for each technology ignoring distances and losses. The fastest phone based internet system available at a distance of more than 1.5km from an exchange is VDSL2 which clocks in at 25Mbps.

    To be honest, I was trying to pretend that VDSL/VDSL2 didn't exist. They're basically a way of lowering the cost of fiber by not quite making it reach your house. But in areas where it is actually deployed, that means you have fiber really, really close to your house, so even if you're one of the very, very few people who just happens to live in that tiny distance band where VDSL is possible at 25 Mbps but not 50 Mbps, the cost of getting actual fiber should be low enough that an average person could probably afford to pay for it (as in a few hundred to a few thousand bucks, max).

    That said, AFAIK, VDSL2 is nowhere near 25 Mbps even at 1.5 km unless you're doing some sort of channel bonding (read "flaky as heck"). I think it would be somewhere in the neighborhood of 15 Mbps at 1.5 km (source: Versatek). You don't get 25 Mbps until the distance to the node is around three or four hundred meters.

    And if you happen to be unlucky enough to be right at 400 meters, you can still get almost 50 Mbps via VDSL (not 2). VDSL2 is only faster from about 250 meters down, and at that point, you're really, really close to 50 Mbps.

    So although I might be slightly off, it's pretty much within the margin of error. :-)

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  38. Error -- or...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I dunno, given that Pay uses bots to load fake comments, is it possible he didn't error but, you know, deliberately lied?

  39. Pai is an idiot, just like his boss by cj9er · · Score: 1

    The guy is an industry stooge and shill. Are we surprised any longer at what this moron does? Moron is as Moron does, that's what Momma used to say...

  40. Facts for all, since 1994 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    EVERY Form 477 has the same problem for EVERY company that files.

    The FCC and other 'departments' know Exactly how it works. And here is it:
    Business reports total possible customers with max-capable speeds.
    But, they only need one customer Per Zip Code AT ANY SPEED and they can claim to cover the entire Zip code and all houses therein.

    Its ALWAYS been that way, everyone in the industry knows it, and until it changes then high-speed internet is done in the U.S.