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Facebook Readies AI Tech To Combat 'Revenge Porn' (reuters.com)

Facebook said on Friday it would use AI to combat the spread of intimate photos shared without people's permission, sometimes called "revenge porn," on its social networks. From a report: The new technology is in addition to a pilot program that required trained representatives to review offending images. "By using machine learning and artificial intelligence, we can now proactively detect near nude images or videos that are shared without permission," the social networking giant said in a blog post. "This means we can find this content before anyone reports it." A member of Facebook's community operations team would review the content found by the new technology, and if found to be an offending image, remove it or disable the account responsible for spreading it, the company added.

58 comments

  1. First thoughts by TimMD909 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Who's the team that handles the training data, and are they hiring?

    1. Re:First thoughts by cayenne8 · · Score: 2, Informative
      I've got a quick and cheap way to avoid 'revenge porn'.

      Don't let people take pictures/video of you while nekkid or while performing sex acts.

      It actually works...

      Sometimes it is the simple answers that are the best.

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    2. Re:First thoughts by sycodon · · Score: 2

      If you allow someone to film you having sex, you are either stupid or a porn star.

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    3. Re:First thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've got a quick and cheap way to avoid 'revenge porn'.

      Don't let people take pictures/video of you while nekkid or while performing sex acts.

      It actually works...

      Sometimes it is the simple answers that are the best.

      ...because everyone knows when they're being photographed or video'd...

    4. Re:First thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If someone films me having sex, I can shoot them for trespassing. Why were they in my barn in the first place?

    5. Re: First thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you are sucking a dudes dick, and he puts his phone in your face before blowing his load down your throat, well... Nevermind, you're the experienced one here. You tell us what it means.

    6. Re: First thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

      ur funny

    7. Re:First thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you allow someone to film you having sex, you are either stupid or a porn star.

      With cameras in every fucking thing these days, good luck enforcing that.

    8. Re:First thoughts by PPH · · Score: 3, Funny

      Why were they in my barn in the first place?

      That was a baaaaaaaad joke.

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    9. Re:First thoughts by bogaboga · · Score: 1

      I've got a quick and cheap way to avoid 'revenge porn'.

      Don't let people take pictures/video of you while nekkid or while performing sex acts.

      It actually works...

      Sometimes it is the simple answers that are the best.

      Dude, the definition of revenge porn makes it clear that it only becomes so once posted on the internet and with specific aim(s).

      revealing or sexually explicit images or videos of a person posted on the Internet, typically by a former sexual partner, without the consent of the subject and in order to cause them distress or embarrassment.

      Your solution, though it would work, is drastic in these circumstances I think.

    10. Re: First thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just like a man to tell me what to do with MY body.

    11. Re:First thoughts by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      Don't trust anyone, including the person you're married to because you trust them?

      Kinda awkward.

      I agree it's what everyone should do, it's just not good advice, because there's literally no set of circumstances in which it'd be followed. If you don't trust your partner, you're probably not going to let them film you already.

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    12. Re: First thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      personally i'd remove said dude's dick with my teeth. but it -would- mean i knew whether i was being photographed or filmed, so its kinda missing the point. were you were too busy conjuring upn scenarios where you were sucking dude's dicks to work that out?

    13. Re:First thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey moron. A lot of times, it's recorded without the other person's knowledge.

    14. Re:First thoughts by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      Huh?

      Why would your partner be in possession of that stuff in the first place? Can nobody say "no" these days?

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    15. Re:First thoughts by cmdr_klarg · · Score: 1

      If there is someone who actually wants to film me having sex I would question their sanity.

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    16. Re: First thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The famous Hulk Hogan tape was recorded from a security system in someone else's house.

      Any more advice, like sweep the room for bugs before speaking, or don't be where the mugger is?

    17. Re:First thoughts by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      Don't trust anyone, including the person you're married to because you trust them?

      Kinda awkward.

      I agree it's what everyone should do, it's just not good advice, because there's literally no set of circumstances in which it'd be followed. If you don't trust your partner, you're probably not going to let them film you already.

      Well, trust only goes JUST so far...trust of anyone.

      Remember, in this world, the ONLY person you can trust 101% implicitly...is YOU.

      I guess exceptions have to be made for schizophrenic folks, but those are outliers.

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    18. Re:First thoughts by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      Remember, in this world, the ONLY person you can trust 101% implicitly...is YOU.

      I don't trust myself to take pictures of me naked, either. That would require trusting my devices. The assumption is that those photos are usually obtained because of a breakup and the guy being a complete a**hole, but that isn't guaranteed to be the case. Devices and accounts get compromised all the time. If images exist on your phone, they can be stolen. The only way to be 100% safe is to ensure that the images do not exist in the first place.

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    19. Re:First thoughts by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      The only way to be 100% safe is to ensure that the images do not exist in the first place.

      That was my original assertion that started this thread.

      The only way to prevent revenge porn on you, is to NOT allow yourself to be photographed or video shot of you naked or doing a sex act.

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    20. Re:First thoughts by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I know. But then you weakened your stance to include trusting yourself. :-D

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    21. Re:First thoughts by sexconker · · Score: 1

      Seriously. They're no better than the people trying to film leprechauns or bigfoot.

    22. Re:First thoughts by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Don't let people take pictures/video of you while nekkid or while performing sex acts.

      It actually works...

      You've never heard of hidden cameras?

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  2. What data does it mine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    While doing this service?

  3. revenge porn is different for creimer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    in his case alleging that he had sex at all is what is unbelievable

    1. Re:revenge porn is different for creimer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Creimer wrote about the revenge porn used against him.

      A troll took credit for posting my video URL on the dark web.

      The same troll who plastered my personal contact information on pictures of naked schoolboys, posted them to Russian image websites, and dropped the image URLs into anonymous comments. He did that because Russia was beyond my reach to do anything about it.

      The troll didn’t know that Google Chrome can translate a foreign language web page into English, most of the Russian image websites had a “DMCA Notice” category on their contact form, and even Russians don’t want naked schoolboy pictures on their websites. It took six weeks and 200+ DMCA takedown notices to clean up that mess.

    2. Re:revenge porn is different for creimer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's truly amazing to see these mysterious anonymous strangers who have deep personal knowledge of creimer's misadventures
      and for the record that crap wasn't me
      i strictly keep the entertainment local and find that whole episode unsavory
      but it wasn't "revenge porn" since you weren't in it and you are a well known virgin

    3. Re:revenge porn is different for creimer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's truly amazing to see these mysterious anonymous strangers who have deep personal knowledge of creimer's misadventures

      Yes. Stop posting random comments about creimer. Buy a clue, get a life.

    4. Re: revenge porn is different for creimer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except it is creimer posting. Don't you find it funny that a comment about creimer pops up by an aC, and then immediately someone replies with a junk link to one of his affiliates? This isn't a coincidence.

      The dude is starving for attention by making up threads and talking to himself. His medium article is filled with lies. I think it's time we step it up and really bring the pain to creimer now.

    5. Re: revenge porn is different for creimer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except it is creimer posting.

      Nope. I'm just a Random AC giving you shit for all your random comments about creimer. Stop deluding yourself that everything you do on Slashdot is between you and creimer, and pretending that no one else isn't keeping tabs on this shit.

      The dude is starving for attention by making up threads and talking to himself.

      Well, duh. You don't post on Medium or YouTube unless you're looking for attention. That's how you build an audience.

      I think it's time we step it up and really bring the pain to creimer now.

      Bring it on, bitch. Creimer could use another Medium topic.

  4. In Soviet Facebook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Porn Revenge You!

  5. Silver bullets don't work. by Mr.+Dollar+Ton · · Score: 2

    Half-assed "AI" silver bullets, done as a pretense of "caring about our users" work even less.

    Zuckerberg's business is acquiring personal data, and using this to help other like himself peddle shit for money. He ain't interested in your causes, well-being, the harm someone causes you, or anything else beyond selling his service, and getting his stock up.

    The only way to win is not to play.

  6. Fight fire with fire by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

    For anyone who posts revenge porn, Facebook should just remotely activate the camera on the person's device and get their own pictures. That'll make people think twice.

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    1. Re:Fight fire with fire by PeeAitchPee · · Score: 1

      Anyone with a brain taped over their camera a long time ago.

    2. Re:Fight fire with fire by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      Anyone with a brain taped over their camera a long time ago.

      Anyone with a brain probably isn't posting revenge porn.

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    3. Re:Fight fire with fire by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      scammers and others hacking into web/security cameras to capture illicit footage is a different (and also significant) problem

      'revenge porn' is most-often sourced from photos and videos willingly modeled for and/or willingly shared (initially).

      so..

      if you take pictures and videos of your naked self or allow others to do so, you're just opening yourself up to this sort of thing. JUST DON'T DO IT.

    4. Re:Fight fire with fire by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      Why would you use a brain to tape over your camera? I find that a small piece of paper or some masking tape works well enough...

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  7. They already don't allow porn by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Why does it matter if it's revenge porn, when they don't allow any porn? Are they going to start allowing non-revenge porn?

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    1. Re:They already don't allow porn by dissy · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Why does it matter if it's revenge porn, when they don't allow any porn? Are they going to start allowing non-revenge porn?

      That was my second thought, just after my brain woke up wasting seconds wondering how the hell an AI or even another human can determine permission.

      If one party to the porn only gave permission to the other party who is doing the posting, how could anyone determine that without asking?

      But yea, then the realization of "wait, when did it become ok to put porn on facebook even *with* permission?"

      This is either some idiot reporter spin, or even facebook spin, trying to attribute far more to a basic porn banning filter than really exists.

    2. Re:They already don't allow porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would have assumed it ids the people involved in the porn then sees if they have ever dated or how long they've been physically near each other. Then if there was any aggressive messages between them, the image gets classified as revenge porn. But if no porn is allowed, this is a dumb project unless they aren't preparing to sell the tech to other websites which would allow FB to leach content off anyone who installs it. What an interesting way to backdoor other people's sites and grab all their non-public data.

      There's been AI-based porn classifiers since at least the 90s.

      When will we get a reddit bot that posts the names of everyone in any uploaded photo?

  8. FB4EVER!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Facebook is the #1 social network in the world, connecting almost everybody for single purpose of improving personal interactions between humans. Facebook brings free internet to anyone who doesn't have it. It is also the most trusted news source on the internet. It fights social injustice and is about to introduce its own currency!

    Buy FB now. Go Facebook!!!

    (trying to boost the stock because I can't wait to sell it)

  9. It's a ruse ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ... Facebook wants an excuse to scan billions of photos and videos to train and weaponize digital recognition.

    Members are crowdsourcing the data it needs for government -- any government -- contracts.

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  10. Easier solution to the revenge porn problem by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Just burn Facebook to the ground and never rebuild it. Problem solved!
    Delete your Facebook account TODAY. Take your privacy back!

    1. Re:Easier solution to the revenge porn problem by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Please explain how deleting your Facebook account prevents you from being a victim of revenge porn. Oh, it doesn't? zzzzz

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    2. Re:Easier solution to the revenge porn problem by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

      Put your glasses on, your severe myopia flaring up again. Also go call your sponsor and get your ass to an AA meeting.

  11. It's simple -- track relationship status... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    facial recognition on images over time, keywords in personal messages, and
    Facebook can figure out who's with who and when that changes who's a possible
    target for revenge porn.

  12. I hate zuck since he left me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    revenge pron...

    http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/33800000/Data-and-Tasha-data-and-tasha-yar-33866740-507-417.jpg

  13. Great strides in AI by FritzTheCat1030 · · Score: 2

    I'm extremely interested to learn how their "machine learning and artificial intelligence" is going to be able to determine whether an image is shared with permission or without permission. This seems like a tremendous leap forward in AI capabilities.

    1. Re:Great strides in AI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not AI, it's hidden microphones everywhere. They just KNOW that you said OK or not.

      Frankly it seems quite impossible for them to determine if one gave permission before anyone complains. One could say: OK. One could write note giving permission. One could have a full fledged photo contract and I don't see how FB could know that. They might be everywhere, but I suspect a desk drawer will still stump them!

      So, just dump anything that shows more skin than they like i guess?
      Isn't darker skin still really hard to decipher in AI .... or has all that changed this week?!?

  14. Cool facebook will scan and keep all your nudes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cool facebook will scan and keep all your nudes, because you know, they need to make sure :)

    Then they will be the ones to decide if you can send them or not.

    Thank baby jesus, allah and shiva I never used that Kike service ran by the Kike government.

  15. Not enough!!! by Anomalous+Co-worker · · Score: 1

    AI to remove revenge porn is a start, but it is not enough. There are reports of low-paid workers employed by contracted companies to work in pressure-cooker environment screening everything that goes up on facebook ending up mental and emotional wrecks because of the work. And yet, they still get criticised for missing stuff. What these people go through to make facebook clean enough for us to use is appalling. If facebook will not pay and support these people adequately and cannot automate the removal of it they are profiting from human suffering.

  16. 180 degrees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why would Facebook, the company which has an extensive history of violating people's privacy, ever want to combat revenge porn? Somehow I suspect that Facebook's AI will secretly hoard the naked revenge photos for Facebook's own purposes while at the same time publicly going after the perpetrators of revenge porn.

    Never trust Facebook.

  17. Its personal.... by 3seas · · Score: 1
  18. Better than their "send us your nudes" initiative by Jamori · · Score: 1

    I question how they can possibly determine whether the pictures are "shared without permission", but at least this is better than their previous "send us your nudes and we won't let anyone else see them ... you can trust me babe, I swear" program.

  19. Not Hotdog by gosand · · Score: 1

    Ah, Silicon Valley.

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  20. Maybe don't do viral livestreams first? by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    Just a thought.

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  21. Who gets to set what "permission" is? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    Spain on anything to do with Catalonia?
    A German gov with any news, culture, history, politics it does not want published?
    France with news about French politics? Funny cartoons? Memes?
    Anyone in the UK who had anything published in the news about them over decades?
    Communist China on Taiwan, a cartoon bear? Anything to do with the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests?
    Cults, religions and theocracies looking for sinful publications and anything they see as blasphemy?
    Topics big brands consider sinful? Free speech? DRM? Comments on junk computer software and OS? Junk crypto?
    A bad movie review and comments on the politics of a movie?

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  22. The root of the vulnerability exists in the mind. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The core issue of revenge porn will not be solved by Facebook. Nor will it be solved by simply refusing to do sexual things in front of a camera, due to hidden cameras, deep fakes and our capacity to make rash decisions.

    The problem with revenge porn is that most people are ashamed of themselves in the first place. They are ashamed of other people seeing them engaged in moments of sexual pleasure. This is learned behavior. Society programs one another to think that this is a bad thing, that if other people can see you enjoying yourself sexually, it somehow makes you a bad person.

    The core of this exploit is human, and it is emotional. Even without cameras, even without the Internet, we'd still have the concept of *shame*. That is what's being leveraged in every case of revenge porn. It's not technology that hurts you, it's your own shame.

    To defend against this exploit, you need to convert your shame into pride. Just own it! "Yes, that was me in that video! Yes, I was sucking a dick, thank you very much. You should try it sometime."

    We are heading towards a society where it will very soon be trivial and inexpensive to put a camera and a microphone in every pair of glasses. It'll happen before we're ready for it, so we may as well start retraining our brains to accept the inevitable. Not just governments and corporations, but *every single individual citizen you encounter* will very likely be recording their interactions with you.

    They can only hurt us if they can make us feel ashamed. Look, I've had people try to scare me by sending me pornographic pictures of myself on the Internet. First I usually laugh at how old and outdated their pictures of me are, then I send them more recent pictures because I'm a helpful guy like that. Never lost any sleep over it.