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The Intercept Shuts Down Access To Snowden Trove (thedailybeast.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Daily Beast: First Look Media announced Wednesday that it was shutting down access to whistleblower Edward Snowden's massive trove of leaked National Security Agency documents. Over the past several years, The Intercept, which is owned by First Look Media, has maintained a research team to handle the large number of documents provided by Snowden to Intercept journalists Laura Poitras and Glenn Greenwald. But in an email to staff Wednesday evening, First Look CEO Michael Bloom said that as other major news outlets had "ceased reporting on it years ago," The Intercept had decided to "focus on other editorial priorities" after expending five years combing through the archive. "The Intercept is proud of its reporting on the Snowden archive, and we are thankful to Laura Poitras and Glenn Greenwald for making it available to us," Bloom wrote. He added: "It is our hope that Glenn and Laura are able to find a new partner -- such as an academic institution or research facility -- that will continue to report on and publish the documents in the archive consistent with the public interest." Poitras reprimanded First Look Media for its decision to shut down its archives, and lay off 4 percent of its staff who had maintained them. "This decision and the way it was handled would be a disservice to our source, the risks we've all taken, and most importantly, to the public for whom Edward Snowden blew the whistle," she wrote.

"Late Thursday evening, Greenwald tweeted that both he and Poitras had full copies of the archives, and had been searching for a partner to continue research," reports The Daily Beast.

67 comments

  1. Dude! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Want fried with that, comrade?

    What does Snowden say, Alex.

  2. Bad News for Snowden!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "other major news outlets had "ceased reporting on it years ago"

    IMHO, Russians kept allowing him to stay only because he was bringing money & media attention!
    (Think about why they never gave him permanent permission to stay!)

    1. Re:Bad News for Snowden!!! by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Russia is not under much pressure to kick him out.

      America is really not that interested in putting him on trial. A trial would be an embarrassing spectacle, and a lot of official misconduct and incompetence would be publicized.

      The status quo is better for everyone.

    2. Re:Bad News for Snowden!!! by thegarbz · · Score: 0

      Think about why they never gave him permanent permission to stay!

      Because countries typically don't grant permanent permission for anyone claiming political asylum to stay? Because he's not wealthy and doesn't qualify for economic citizenship? Because Russia doesn't grant PR lightly to foreigners, especially American spies?

      I can keep thinking all day. How many perfectly normal reasons which apply to many countries and many people do you want me to come up with?

    3. Re:Bad News for Snowden!!! by Livius · · Score: 1, Insightful

      A trial was never the goal. He would have been given a military show trial if not assassinated outright.

    4. Re:Bad News for Snowden!!! by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      He would have been given a military show trial

      A military trial for a civilian American citizen would be totally unconstitutional. There is absolutely no way this would happen.

      if not assassinated outright.

      Who would give the order? Who would carry it out?

      Donald Trump has betrayed multiple subordinates. No one is going to commit felony murder on his behalf only to be thrown under the bus.

    5. Re: Bad News for Snowden!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wouldn't it then be good for Russia to kick him out, as it would be embarrassing to the US?

    6. Re:Bad News for Snowden!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you forgetting the US citizen Obama had killed overseas? Just declare them an enemy combatant any anything is fair game. Unconstitutional, but that hasn't restrained our leaders for many decades now.

    7. Re:Bad News for Snowden!!! by Aighearach · · Score: 2

      Hey derpstick, in WWII, when American Citizens were found among the German ranks... they got shot at just like the other Germans.

      And there were no Constitutional implications at all.

      Same here. If you go to a war zone to hide from the US Government, it is entirely lawful to blow you up there instead of capturing you and dragging you home.

      And his family litigated the matter in the US, and the Courts upheld his status as a combatant. So it is just incredibly derptastic to be still bleeting about it. You are not the Law, nor are you the Court, nor is the Constitution made up of whatever you say.

      Did you think it was unconstitutional for the Union soldiers during the Civil War to fire their weapons? Or did you think they were supposed to file legal charges instead. "Hold on there, charging soldier, stop right there, I'm gonna find a lawyer and get permission to shoot if you're not careful!" That's not how war works. The Constitution doesn't ban war. In fact, there seems to be some evidence that the Founders weren't even against war!

    8. Re:Bad News for Snowden!!! by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      there seems to be some evidence that the Founders weren't even against war!

      Indeed, such as the fact that they waged a war to avoid paying tax on their tea.

    9. Re:Bad News for Snowden!!! by pjt33 · · Score: 1

      What does citizenship have to do with it? With the exception of requirements to hold some public offices, can you find any article in the US Constitution which discriminates between citizens and non-citizens?

    10. Re:Bad News for Snowden!!! by BlueStrat · · Score: 1

      there seems to be some evidence that the Founders weren't even against war!

      Indeed, such as the fact that they waged a war to avoid paying tax on their tea.

      I believe there was just a bit more to it than that, like the fact that the colonists had no voice in the creation of such taxes nor in setting the rates, and they were likewise told how much tea they *must* buy from the heavily-royally-invested companies that comprised the British tea industry.

      Not that the tea thing was the main or even in the top-3 reasons the colonists rebelled, but that's a topic for some other article and thread. For those interested, a more comprehensive list of American colonial complaints against England and the King can be found here.

      https://www.archives.gov/found...

      Strat

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    11. Re:Bad News for Snowden!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A trial would be an embarrassing spectacle, where many things about the greatest country in the world would be revealed as pure fiction.

      Living in ignorance is better for everyone, good night sweet summer children, you can't handle the truth. Enjoy your 'democracy' and 'liberty' and consequences(no '' needed here, they are quite real).

      How about '2019 kids protests for truth' - i know, too hard to even imagine it.

    12. Re:Bad News for Snowden!!! by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      That is such complete horseshit, I wonder if you ever read a history book in your life?!

      That's like, "History as guessed at from contemporary talking points - 101."

    13. Re:Bad News for Snowden!!! by slashdot_commentator · · Score: 1

      A military trial for a civilian American citizen would be totally unconstitutional. There is absolutely no way this would happen.

      You're right, but the reality is more nuanced than that.

      If Snowden was handed over or kidnapped to the US today, he would be tried in a closed FISA court. It would allegedly work like a standard criminal court, but there is no telling what information he would be denied access to, on state secrets grounds, or how he would be denied motions relevant to demonstrating he is not guilty, because the whole proceeding is secret. It may as well be a kangaroo military court.

      What *should* be done, and was attempted, was for Snowden and the US agree to a plea bargain arrangement. Contrary to national security propaganda, Snowden probably did not reveal devastating information that destroyed intelligence gathering programs or got assets killed. For the type of "crime" he committed, it would be analogous 4 years of prison time. From Snowden's point of view, it would be preferable to spending the rest of life in exile, and he could more constructively spend his the rest of his life reminding the public of the illegal actions of the US national security apparatus. From a national security PoV, they learn more about what Snowden revealed to the Russians, and they can finally bury the ugly chapter of the US intel agencies illegally gathering transactional activity and information on US citizens. But there's no way to tell whether Snowden or the US was being unreasonable negotiating the conditions of the plea bargain.

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    14. Re:Bad News for Snowden!!! by slashdot_commentator · · Score: 1

      And his family litigated the matter in the US, and the Courts upheld his status as a combatant.

      As did the Courts in Korematsu vs the US. Its not "okay" because the Courts made bad rulings.

      Did you think it was unconstitutional for the Union soldiers during the Civil War to fire their weapons?

      Southern insurrectionists sure did. But just because we can declare ourselves "winners" doesn't mean violating recognized law is irrelevant. I believe its apparent that the Bush administration violated international law by invading Iraq in 2003. Just because none of the actors will suffer legal reprecussions for it, doesn't mean it was an acceptable act of government.

      That's not how war works. The Constitution doesn't ban war.

      But the CotUS requires an act of Congress to conduct war. The US has not been in an active war for the past 50 years. The US, by definition, cannot even be in a war with non-state insurgents. The standards of war are not applicable to drone execution of an American national, even if he is considered a criminal/rogue agent of a terrorist organization. The Bush administration created the extralegal State Security nightmare we are currently living in, and the Obama administration has enthusiastically extended its existence.

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    15. Re:Bad News for Snowden!!! by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Its not "okay" because the Courts made bad rulings.

      That's not up to you. The Court said it was legal, therefore it was legal.

      If you're against the rule of law, that's you. You do you. The Courts do the Law.

    16. Re:Bad News for Snowden!!! by RinzeWind · · Score: 1

      Who would give the order? Who would carry it out?

      Not saying that the parent poster is right about this, but usually when you need to kill an American citizen without trial drones are pretty handy.

  3. Re:Snowdan is a traitor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey, Ivan!

  4. Funny thing about Snowden by MikeRT · · Score: 1, Troll

    The same left-wingers who see a Russian conspiracy behind every pro-Trump vote in 2016 incredulously do not consider the possibility that Snowden might actually be a Russian asset who was recruited to cause absolute mayhem. It would have been very easy for Putin to turn Snowden over to the US and thus throw even more gasoline on the fire via discovery in federal courts if Snowden were just "some guy."

    On the other hand, that's not how you want to be seen treating your assets by the people who you might want to recruit...

    1. Re:Funny thing about Snowden by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative


      The same left-wingers who see a Russian conspiracy behind every pro-Trump vote in 2016 incredulously do not consider the possibility that Snowden might actually be a Russian asset who was recruited to cause absolute mayhem.

      That's because we actually have evidence that Russia was trying to influence the 2016 election. The CIA and FBI have said exactly this. It's also because we have ZERO evidence that Snowden is a Russian asset. You think if the CIA or NSA had the slightest inklink he was recruited by the Ruskies they wouldn't be screaming it at the top of their lungs?

      Snowden wound up in Russia because the Obama administration screwed up.

    2. Re:Funny thing about Snowden by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol, I have always felt that Greenwald was used by Russia to cultivate Snowden in the first place

      and yes, I AM a Liberal

    3. Re:Funny thing about Snowden by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FYI, the American Federal legal system has a lot of holes in it re-election fraud because the GOP Congress refuses to address issues that give them clear advantages.

      This is because all election control is given over to local authorities to run, and the GOP has managed to get their own operatives in place to control critical elections.

      Clear evidence for this is the gutting of the federal elections laws and removal of democratic voters from voting records just before elections.

      So, the GOP manages to live on long after it has become the party for the 1%

      Sad to say, but there was not a lot Obama could have done about it, and anything that he could have done would have led Faux News to claim Obama was the one trying to throw the election

    4. Re:Funny thing about Snowden by eaglesrule · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's funny how right-wingers can't imagine that someone might actually take their oath to uphold and defend the constitution seriously, and reveal information that is beneficial to the public interest. A vow to protect against enemies, both foreign and domestic, which does involve blind obedience to those currently in power.

      It's incredible to assume that Snowden would even have a chance to see the inside of a courtroom. Not when there is an example to be made.

    5. Re:Funny thing about Snowden by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If Russians are behind the revelation of all these ways in which the American government has lied to us and betrayed us, then I say "thank you" to the Russians.

      I don't really care if their intent was to harm, or to help. I care about what happened: important truths came to light.

    6. Re:Funny thing about Snowden by andydread · · Score: 1

      but if they harm and you suffer as a result of that harm......

    7. Re:Funny thing about Snowden by DCFusor · · Score: 1

      Plenty of "right wingers" and "conservatives" think Snowden was a hero for taking his oath seriously. It's only the oxymoronically named Intelligence Community and the corrupt State dept that hate him - and they are avowedly NOT right wingers. None of whom, I'd point out, were voted for. Zero.
      Leave the partisanship behind and learn the truth instead. (IMO, unaccountable people in power *all* suck)
      Conservatives hate Nazis and other social democrats or racists as much as anyone else - stop claiming all are the same.
      Because if you do, some are going to say all progressives and lefties are as bad as Antifa and murder people with bike locks.
      And it'll be just as fair.
      All the MAGA people I know, know that to make America Great - it has to first be made honest. I don't see any monopoly on corruption developing, not even close.

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    8. Re:Funny thing about Snowden by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's only the oxymoronically named Intelligence Community and the corrupt State dept that hate him - and they are avowedly NOT right wingers

      What the fuck? Since when was the CIA et al run by lefties?

      What are you smoking, you stupid cock?

    9. Re:Funny thing about Snowden by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 2

      It's funny how right-wingers can't imagine that someone might actually take their oath to uphold and defend the constitution seriously, and reveal information that is beneficial to the public interest. A vow to protect against enemies, both foreign and domestic, which does involve blind obedience to those currently in power.

        It's incredible to assume that Snowden would even have a chance to see the inside of a courtroom. Not when there is an example to be made.

      It not a right or left wing issue. It is a authoritarian vs libertarian issue. Politics is not a one dimensional slide with conservatives on one side and liberals on the other it is more a n-dimensional space with lots on nuanced positions. trying to over simplify that into a binary lib v con paradigm is what makes American politics the devise social hellscape we have had for the last decade and a half.

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    10. Re: Funny thing about Snowden by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was created by people who graduated from the elite left wing institutions such as Harvard and Yale. So pretty much from the beginning. The OSS, predecessor to the CIA, was know ans Ohh Soo social.

      Giving some less advantaged person handout is the oldest power play in the world. The powerfull all know this and are all democrats. In order to help poor people with food and housing they tax the middle class so that the agribusiness they own and the construction companies they own can build crappy housed and genetically engineered food for people who have systematically been brainwashes by the media which they own into thinking they are helpless.

      I dont fault the rich and powerfull for being democrates, i fault the middle class and few legitimate hippy leftist for buying into it. Every con ever created is a variation on the theme of getting something for nothing. The rich and powerfull get that way by 'helping poor people'

    11. Re:Funny thing about Snowden by Gavagai80 · · Score: 1

      If Snowden was working for Russia, he obviously would've escaped to there instead of to Hong Kong (from which he only fled to Russia when he was ejected from Hong Kong). It's a ridiculous "theory".

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    12. Re:Funny thing about Snowden by Kjella · · Score: 1

      It not a right or left wing issue. It is a authoritarian vs libertarian issue. Politics is not a one dimensional slide with conservatives on one side and liberals on the other it is more a n-dimensional space with lots on nuanced positions. trying to over simplify that into a binary lib v con paradigm is what makes American politics the devise social hellscape we have had for the last decade and a half.

      But still a majority decides so even here in Europe with multiple parties like in my country we have 7 larger parties (>4%) three are left-aligned and four are right-aligned so while the internal votes will decide the flavor the overall choice is just one or the other. It absolutely happens that people don't want to vote with the party they like the most because of the company they keep. It's still millions of individual positions flattened into 2-3 dimensions then flattened to majority decisions.

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    13. Re:Funny thing about Snowden by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      Conservatives hate Nazis and other social democrats

      You need to stop reading the internet and read some actual history books. Nazis are not socialist[*] and they're not democratic. Calling them social democrats makes you look very very foolish.

      [*] If you believe that Nazis are socialists because they have "socialist" in the name then I assume you also believe that Democratic People's Republic of North Korea is indeed a democracy.

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    14. Re:Funny thing about Snowden by eaglesrule · · Score: 1

      It not a right or left wing issue. It is a authoritarian vs libertarian issue. Politics is not a one dimensional slide with conservatives on one side and liberals on the other it is more a n-dimensional space with lots on nuanced positions. trying to over simplify that into a binary lib v con paradigm is what makes American politics the devise social hellscape we have had for the last decade and a half.

      You're correct about not using sweeping generalizations, and allowing for shades of grey between the two extremes.

      However every single right-wing talking head, publication or media outlet that I'm aware of, tried to frame Snowden as a traitor. My error was in not being more specific, as yes, there are individuals who do not align with the opinion of mainstream talking points.

  5. The leak risk keeps going up. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Greenwald tweeted that both he and Poitras had full copies of the archives, and had been searching for a partner to continue research,"

    Given that Greenwald, Poitras, The Intercept and "Others" have access to the full archive, my guess is these documents have already been stolen by multiple intelligence agencies. None of these people are really security experts, and it's inevitable they haven't kept good security.

    With Greenwald and Poitras looking around for other institutions, the odds these documents will get into leak out completely un-redacted just went up 10 fold.

    1. Re:The leak risk keeps going up. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'd assume that other intelligence agencies already stole them from the NSA long before Snowden did, and these journalists probably have better opsec on their copies.

      Anyway, they should just throw a .torrent of it on The Pirate Bay at this point.

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  6. Don't blame the messenger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The world has returned its short attention span to lolcats videos, news at 11.

  7. Re: Snowdan is a traitor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The who shuts down what?

  8. Not profitable. by Dan+East · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Let's be real. The Intercept and First Look Media didn't do this for The Greater Good. They got publicity and advertising revenue for being gatekeeper of this information and first to break the stories. "major news outlets had ceased reporting on it years ago" means "no longer profitable". So why should they be paying people to dredge through it when they aren't producing juicy bits any more? The two "journalists" whose job was to find stuff in top security documents that were illegally leaked in the hopes of bringing in web traffic shouldn't be the least bit surprised that their "research" positions have come to an end.

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    1. Re:Not profitable. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they blame pewdiepie for it I'm sure they would be raking in cash.

    2. Re:Not profitable. by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      I agree. That's why instead of telling the world what was going on, the spent the first 6 months trickling out parts that were incorrect, like the PDFs the British trainers made that misstated the capabilities of the program it was training for, because the people writing the training didn't have full access.

      So by the time they started leaking legit shit, the media was ignoring the details because it was old news. There's probably still lots of important information that hasn't been reported, but it wouldn't make much money at this point.

    3. Re:Not profitable. by epine · · Score: 1

      Let's be real. The Intercept and First Look Media didn't do this for The Greater Good.

      Because purity is pure, with nary a visible means of support.

      Which begs the question: What was God's bag?

      Surely he wasn't into creation for the greater good or the love of humanity, at least not judging by how many of us he's already turned into pillars of salt.

    4. Re:Not profitable. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's be real. The Intercept and First Look Media didn't do this for The Greater Good. They got publicity and advertising revenue for being gatekeeper of this information and first to break the stories. "major news outlets had ceased reporting on it years ago" means "no longer profitable". So why should they be paying people to dredge through it when they aren't producing juicy bits any more? The two "journalists" whose job was to find stuff in top security documents that were illegally leaked in the hopes of bringing in web traffic shouldn't be the least bit surprised that their "research" positions have come to an end.

      Hey Dan, since you're posting on Stormfront for Linux Cunts [slashdot.org] in order to curry favour with disgusting Nazi computer janitors, I don't think it's in any way disproportionate to suggest that you take your idea of "The Greater Good" and stick it up your tight little asshole.

  9. The Snowden Files Have Essentially Been Published by tinkerton · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think the most important bits have been published, even if this is only a tiny fraction of the whole. The main lessons to be learned from it have been communicated. After that the cost/benefit calculation just becomes much smaller. It can live on as a reference base where journalists and historians can look up data which is relevant to current events but which has little apparent value in being published outside of these events. New Look Media simple doesn't want to invest anymore in what is mostly a symbolic openness. Resistance to that assumes that there are hugely important things being covered up.

  10. Re:The Snowden Files Have Essentially Been Publish by tinkerton · · Score: 1

    I should add, there will be damaging information in the remaining files but the criterium is not to do damage but to publish what the public needs to know , where the government goes wrong.

  11. Re:Snowdan is a traitor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yep, the Intercept seems to be worried about becoming an Indicted co-conspirator

  12. Re:The Snowden Files Have Essentially Been Publish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We can't predict what might surface and how valuable a review of who knew what and when might be.

  13. Re:The Snowden Files Have Essentially Been Publish by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    What is important to historians? To people working on OS, crypto security?
    How do we know what is not published and that is all ok now?
    Cant sort it anymore? Let the world sort it for free using their own bandwidth, sites and with their own databases.

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  14. Actually it was probably intentional. by bussdriver · · Score: 0

    Forcing Snowden to be stuck in Russia was quite beneficial to the USA in that they have a lot of people thinking there is a connection there and they continue to smear Snowden as a traitor because he was forced into Russia by the USA. The irony of that smear today is somehow lost as I've still heard it being used against him.

    The alternative was to allow Snowden to escape to a safe but neutral country. Sure they could more easily go kill him but everybody would know why and it would make him a greater hero. In Russia, they can continue to attack his character for all of time before he is completely forgotten and only their distortions are remembered.

  15. Re: The FBI and CIA are full of shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    9/11 was obviously an inside job. ae911truth dot org

    FBI guys need jail time.

  16. Re:The Snowden Files Have Essentially Been Publish by rtb61 · · Score: 2

    No problem, there are plenty of people who will volunteer to do it for free. I would and of course I would be tempted to simply upload it to wikileaks. I mean there is the solution right there, why don't they take it.

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  17. Re: Snowdan is a traitor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They already stated.... it's about money..... there is nothing news worthy coming out of it enough to justify keeping the team basically. It good Ol American capitalism

  18. Re:The Snowden Files Have Essentially Been Publish by sheramil · · Score: 1

    I would and of course I would be tempted to simply upload it to wikileaks. I mean there is the solution right there, why don't they take it.

    (derisive laughter)

    Oh, wait, you're serious? Let me laugh even harder.

  19. Coincidence? by astrofurter · · Score: 1

    First Look Media CEO Michael Bloom:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/mi...

    Previously employed by:
    Guardian
    Rolling Stone
    Sony
    Viacom
    AOL
    News Corp

    Coincidence?

  20. Re:The Snowden Files Have Essentially Been Publish by tinkerton · · Score: 1

    You can argue about the criteria and that other people would use other criteria for what is publishable. But the way it works now is the journalists involved and their organisation get to decide and my point is they aren't trying to cover anything up. They honestly think they published what really ought to be published. Greenwald wants to pass on the archive to historians. That means he is thinking along the same lines.

  21. Re:The Snowden Files Have Essentially Been Publish by tinkerton · · Score: 1

    It's pretty clear they don't want to go the Wikileaks publishing way. It's out of his hands now but do you think Snowden would want that? He's very principled about that. He became a whistleblower to expose unconstitutional practices and runaway surveillance policies. He sure as hell doesn't want to expose the dirty linen of the state any more than necessary. Wikileaks will publish unless there is a very good reason not to. Snowden wants it the other way round Both because that does not match his pollitical views and because he doesn't want to be disloyal to his country or the state in any way. Assange wants to work for the citizens of the state but he opposes the system. It's a different approach

  22. Go get a fix of your favorite painkiller. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or go see a doctor. Quickly!

  23. Re:The Snowden Files Have Essentially Been Publish by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

    No problem, there are plenty of people who will volunteer to do it for free. I would and of course I would be tempted to simply upload it to wikileaks. I mean there is the solution right there, why don't they take it.

    This is precisely why they don't use the volunteers who would do it for free. The whole point was responsible journalism.

    There's a lot of sensitive information in there for good reasons. Not everything secret is bad and governments have prefectly good, utterly reasonable reasons for keeping some things secret. Snowden wanted to reveal the illegal stuff (which should not have been secret) without compromosing things that should have been kept secret, like operative identities, etc.

    Snowden knew he didn't have the resources to cover it all himself, so rather than go for a Manning style public infodump, he went to a responsible outlet. Wikileaks is the complete antithesis of that.

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  24. Re:The Snowden Files Have Essentially Been Publish by tinkerton · · Score: 1

    Snowden knew he didn't have the resources to cover it all himself, so rather than go for a Manning style public infodump, he went to a responsible outlet. Wikileaks is the complete antithesis of that.

    - The reason Snowden didn't publish is not because of resources but because that was the job of journalists. He would not have published even if he had the resources.
    - I certainly won't dismiss Wikileaks as easily as you do. Their position is more radical . Maybe the main difference with The Intercept is that they both think the system is fucked up but one decides to still put some trust in it, the other not. It can be a very small difference.

  25. Re:The Snowden Files Have Essentially Been Publish by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

    I certainly won't dismiss Wikileaks as easily as you do. Their position is more radical

    I'm not dismissing them, but I think it's clear that their sort of leaking is not the kind that Snowden's interested in.

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  26. Before Snowden... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I had no connection to the following terms:

    PRISM
    Xkeyscore
    Tailored Access Operations (TAO)
    I hunt Sysadmins
    LOVEINT
    STINGRAY

    and countless others. Whether these terms will vanish from my vocabulary I don't know, but they keep
    Snowdens memory alive. These terms and their descriptions opened eyes, worldwide.

  27. Re:The Snowden Files Have Essentially Been Publish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Snowden wanted to reveal the illegal stuff (which should not have been secret) without compromosing things that should have been kept secret, like operative identities, etc.

    Well, then he failed. Many things publicly leaked have been perfectly legal. The fact that the NSA records all phone calls in Afghanistan or that they spy on our allies are good examples.