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Telegram Adds 'Delete Everywhere' Nuclear Option -- Killing Chat History (techcrunch.com)
Instant messaging service Telegram has added a feature that lets a user delete messages in one-to-one and/or group private chats, after the fact, and not only from their own inbox. From a report: The new 'nuclear option' delete feature allows a user to selectively delete their own messages and/or messages sent by any/all others in the chat. They don't even have to have composed the original message or begun the thread to do so. They can just decide it's time. Let that sink in. All it now takes is a few taps to wipe all trace of a historical communication -- from both your own inbox and the inbox(es) of whoever else you were chatting with (assuming they're running the latest version of Telegram's app).
Never assume any communications system is not already being backed up at all the link points, and by multiple intelligence gathering agencies in multiple venues.
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"The past was alterable. The past never had been altered. Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia."
Defeated, LOL.
>> All it now takes is a few taps to wipe all trace of a historical communication -- from both your own inbox and the inbox(es) of whoever else you were chatting with
Good thing screenshots are impossible
>> (assuming they're running the latest version of Telegram's app)
Oh, so nevermind. It never would work.
I bet you wish you had a "delete posts everywhere" button to hide the last 2 years of your hilariously tragic life.
You're left now with thousands of hours spent on an internet forum regurgitating Democrat lies you were stupid enough to believe.
Literally your only out now is suicide. Are you going to hang yourself, drink antifreeze, or jump off the roof? Can you please livestream it?
Nuclear is when you don't live. There you go.
how about delete all Telegram infrastructure with two taps?
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
Anybody with a camera is not impressed. This is not "nuclear", except in the sense that it is tiny and meaningless.
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
The only way this works is on an unexploitable non-jailbroken device, and only under the other party thinks to use a second cellphone to snap sphotos of the telegram running cellphone's screen if they can't screencap on the device itself.
There is a reason I don't believe in 'nuke history' options like this: Because they just don't work, and they give a false sense of security anything you said was actually private. Think hard about what you say and to who, and don't trust that you can make it go away later. Plenty of examples of that in the media today, and even when analog was king.
How about an indefinite moratorium on cloying expressions like ‘let that sink in’. In living memory ‘a historical communication’ could be obliterated simply by being set alight. Might even still be true, in a few instances.
Really, that's "off topic"
She had a big problem with e-mail retention and I think Telegram is advertising a precise solution to this.
You care you explain?
Innocent until proven guilty. Did he find evidence of guilt? No. Then he is innocent beyond any doubt. I know that's now how liberals want the world to work because they believe accusation is proof of guilt, but this is true only in their echo chamber.
This stems from the same insanity as the entire "copyright" crime scheme: Confusing actual matter/energy and the laws it follows with mere information, and the different laws that meta-level follows.
If you fell for believing that you can "own" and "steal" information, or even "rent" it (seriously, LOL), rather than just copy it, then such a nuclear option "makes sense".
Thanks Content Mafia cokeheads!
(I worked in nearly all media industry businesses. They all know it's a lie. Their licensess even are based on that! And I know for a fact that it's the result of the side-effects of half of them snorting cocaine.)
Is it bad when no one believes your only selling point is a lie?
They will never delete any data. They just want more.
(assuming they're running the latest version of Telegram's app) ...
- assuming their app is online
- assuming the content hasn't already been copied / screen-shot / forwarded
- assuming
The only valid assumption you should make is that ANYTHING you write COULD come back to haunt you ...
Nobody has seen the report yet. Some things are still being investigated. It's not over yet.
Whenever someone adds Âlet that sink in to whatever they say, Iâ(TM)m less inclined to let anything sink in, and more inclined to think of them as pompous and pretentious. Let that sink in.
If Telegram and other telecommunication agents are truly deleting content. At best this is good for a 'stop and frisk', or a search warrant after the fact. It's pointless if the government is already spying on a person.
Yes, it is. Slash your wrists, eat rat poison, hang from your belt.
...so the world wouldn't know what he thinks of his trusting users.
I'm not repeating myself
I'm an X window user; I'm an ex-Windows user
For some use cases this is extremely valuable. Say if you're worried one party had their phone stolen, by police or otherwise. Being able to delete that remotely can increase the likelihood that the information stays private. Not everyone is using Telegram to protect against nation state adversaries who are not worried about revealing their capabilities. Use the right tool for the job, if you need some sort of chain of custody or tamper-resistance, Telegram is not suited. It wasn't suited before this either.