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Comcast To Spend $50 Million To Create the Nation's First Video Gaming Arena (philly.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Philly: Comcast Spectacor, which owns the Flyers, is to announce Monday morning that it will construct the first arena for gaming fans in the U.S. for the Comcast-owned Fusion, company officials say. The $50 million project is a testament to the surging popularity of esports, in which players compete in video games before large crowds. The company plans to break ground this summer on part of the 47-acre stadium complex site that Comcast Spectacor leases in South Philadelphia. The 3,500-seat arena will rise on a parking lot, next to Xfinity Live! and within walking distance of the Linc, Citizens Bank Park, and the Wells Fargo Center.

Nate Nanzer, commissioner of the 20-team Overwatch League, said there has never been a special-purpose esports arena "built anywhere. This is a huge step for esports. This is something we will see pop up all over the world." Besides housing Comcast's Fusion, one of the Overwatch League's teams, the venue is planned to be a major east coast hub for gaming events, company executives said. Comcast Spectacor expects to hold about 120 events a year in the new arena, with other gigs ranging from TED Talks to electronic dance music and K-pop concerts. K-pop is a music genre from South Korea that is popular with Fusion fans, Comcast Spectacor officials said. The Fusion Arena is looking to sell naming rights to the venue.

63 comments

  1. frist post by mholve · · Score: 0

    booyah

    1. Re:frist post by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      I wished I had watched you make this impressive virtual accomplishment from within the Comcast Spectacor Gaming Arena!

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    2. Re:frist post by mholve · · Score: 0

      It would have been... Glorious.

    3. Re: frist post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Guess what I'm gonna say

    4. Re: frist post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fusion might want to keep the rights after they see the state of the naming market these days

  2. The Nations First! Except for the other ones! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Atlanta 2016, among others - https://www.eleague.com/news/state-of-the-art-tournament-facility

    1. Re: The Nations First! Except for the other ones! by bobmagicii · · Score: 1

      yeah pretty sure there is one in the dallas ft worth area too. remember rolling my eyes at it pretty hard.

  3. TrumPutin? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did Putin order this from the Kremlin?

  4. retarded by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    who would go to an arena to watch a bunch of people sit at computers (or worse, consoles) and play video games while some announcer babbles incoherently over a mic?

    1. Re:retarded by Luthair · · Score: 2

      Who'd go sit in an arena watching a bunch of sweaty dudes bump into each other.

    2. Re:retarded by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You got it all wrong...
      You go to watch sports live because there is less announcer babbling about the game, if you want announcers babbling then you go to TV or the internet stream....
      At the event the announcers only talk when something significant happens in the game, or to tell you to buy something at the shops in the stadium, otherwise they play music to get you to shout "CHARGE!" or chant "DEFENSE" or the like.

      At least that is how regular sports work.

    3. Re:retarded by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree, that's retarded, too.

    4. Re:retarded by ArchieBunker · · Score: 2

      The youth of today apparently.

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    5. Re:retarded by ArchieBunker · · Score: 1

      Playing a physical sport requires lots of effort. Mashing buttons while sitting in a chair does not. Can an NFL player be good at video games? Can a video gamer be good at the NFL?

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    6. Re:retarded by No+Longer+an+AC · · Score: 1

      It's a fair question. This is literally one sport where you can see the action just as well on a screen at home. Of course it's probably not as big as that Jumbo-Tron they have in the basement of Comcast's headquarters.

      Unless there's some market for watching the antics of the actual players. I can get quite animated when I play video games.

    7. Re:retarded by No+Longer+an+AC · · Score: 1

      Sitting in a chair?

      LOL, I'm still thinking of quarter games. I don't play those sitting down.

    8. Re: retarded by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everybody

  5. Not first by h4x0t · · Score: 2

    There's been an MLG arena in Columbus Ohio for years.

    https://www.tomshardware.com/n...

    Shoot, they are building another $10M one as well as part of some $2B larger complex.

    https://esportsobserver.com/pl...

    1. Re:Not first by dissy · · Score: 1

      There's been an MLG arena in Columbus Ohio for years.

      As someone from Columbus, even our MLG arena wasn't the first.
      The Nexon Arena in South Korea is also dedicated to gaming and beat us by almost 2 years, opening the end of 2013.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexon_Arena

      Even at the time the Nexon Arena made a big deal branding themselves as the first stadium dedicated to esports built by a game developer

      I never bothered to look into it but that makes it sound like they weren't the first either if you drop the "by a game developer" qualifier.

    2. Re:Not first by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      They are not building a sports arena they are building an advertising platform by the false claims of surging popularity, to attempt to suck in the gaming community to brainlessly watch their 'sporting content' whilst doing nothing but consuming, manipulative and choice distorting content, ads on top of ads on top of ads. Ads between content, ads in the content and the content itself another ad and more ads for the sponsor and the nothings purporting to be celebrity sporting stars, just walking sandwich board people, living a 'ad' life style and lamely trying to sell it all to the children they manipulate, what a pack of lamers, ALL OF THEM.

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    3. Re:Not first by No+Longer+an+AC · · Score: 1

      If I had mod points I would be torn between +1 Insightful or +1 Obvious.

    4. Re:Not first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And vegas....

      https://www.hyperxesportsarenalasvegas.com/

    5. Re:Not first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      looks like a tent to me? regardless, having something like comcast back something is a big step, i'd argue much more so than "major league gamer" or wahtever that is...

  6. Past Peak by Luthair · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We're already past peak esports, league, dota2, etc. are all on the decline and the large publishers have all stopped the "we esports" part of PR for every new title (the new fad is game as a service). Fortnite isn't an esport, the audience there is for individual streamers not the high level competitive aspect (the game doesn't even have skill based matchmaking).

    Its also generally questionable about whether it makes financial sense to have a dedicated space, notice how many professional teams share buildings, and rent them out to concerts.

    1. Re:Past Peak by jon3k · · Score: 1

      We're already past peak esports, league, dota2, etc. are all on the decline

      Do you have stats for this? Genuinely curious, I have no idea.

      the large publishers have all stopped the "we esports" part of PR for every new title (the new fad is game as a service).

      Do you think that's because it is just understood at this point because it is a competitive game? Maybe we just don't need the moniker anymore? Again, I don't know, I'm not a gamer.

      Its also generally questionable about whether it makes financial sense to have a dedicated space, notice how many professional teams share buildings, and rent them out to concerts.

      This is actually a really great point, but, it only seats 3,500 people. So it's not like they're building a 50,000 seat football stadium. And I wonder if they'll have other uses for it?

    2. Re:Past Peak by ItsJustAPseudonym · · Score: 1

      "Its also generally questionable about whether it makes financial sense to have a dedicated space, notice how many professional teams share buildings, and rent them out to concerts."

      This. I'm unclear how an 'eSports arena' differs from 'a big auditorium' or 'one end of a basketball court'. Both of those are available in many cities.

    3. Re:Past Peak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      eSports, unlike traditional sports, has that pesky "e" at the beginning of its name that it has to account for. Being electronic, we can't see the action unless it's projected on screens of some sort. So e-sports have A LOT of LARGE SCREENS everywhere, and built into every wall, nook, and cranny so you can see plenty of action. It's quite impressive to see, and not something that would work as easily if it was some portable system that was hacked onto the end of a basketball court. But this is just the beginning, I look forward to huge hologram projection arenas in the future.

    4. Re:Past Peak by Ranbot · · Score: 1

      Its also generally questionable about whether it makes financial sense to have a dedicated space, notice how many professional teams share buildings, and rent them out to concerts.

      You only needed read the summary to see they will use the space to host other special events, TED talks, concerts, etc.

    5. Re:Past Peak by Bradac_55 · · Score: 1

      Fortnite is already dead gramps, you just haven't caught up it's all Apex Legends now.

    6. Re:Past Peak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It doesn't need to make financial sense. They'll just take any losses out of your cable or internet bill. And keep any profits if there are some. Once you have the system rigged in your favor by the best laws money can buy, there aren't many limits.

  7. Better Headline by bistromath007 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Comcast to Flush $50 Million Down a Toilet to Avoid Spending it on Infrastructure

    1. Re:Better Headline by bob4u2c · · Score: 1

      +1

      Where are my mod points from Friday!

    2. Re:Better Headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which goes to show, Comcast is perfectly willing to use infrastructure so long as they don't have to pay for it. *woosh /*

    3. Re:Better Headline by WankerWeasel · · Score: 1

      $50 million doesn't go very far on infrastructure. The local Time Warner office (that's now a Comcast office) we built years ago cost that much. The equipment in the headend is well over $800 million. $50 million is a drop in the bucket and wouldn't do much to upgrade things.

    4. Re:Better Headline by bistromath007 · · Score: 1

      You know all that municipal broadband that's not happening because of the telecoms' dumbass lobbying? That's not exactly being considered in places with billion dollar budgets.

    5. Re:Better Headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Different company. Spectacor has as even less to do with internet and infrastructure as NBC does.

  8. Rober Mueller REPORT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NO evidence of COLLUSION.

  9. Copyright problems with streaming matches by tepples · · Score: 1

    the large publishers have all stopped the "we esports" part of PR for every new title

    Which raises another question: How do Comcast and participating players plan to handle cases where a video game publisher withdraws copyright permission to stream matches of the publisher's game from Comcast?

  10. The Future Obesity And Diabetes Olympics by dryriver · · Score: 1

    The e-Sports competitors and crowd will look GREAT on TV in 2020. By 2040, 10% have died of heart attacks, and the remaining 90% are fat blobs who need to be wheeled around in a - self-driving - electric wheelchair. =)

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    1. Re:The Future Obesity And Diabetes Olympics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You clearly have never seen dota players before
      https://images.dailyhive.com/20180318203331/dota2-tournament-seattle-key-arena.jpg

      Even the fans watching are on par with horse jockies
      https://www.google.com/search?q=Nexon+Arena&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X#imgrc=_

      I mean seriously. Compare that to your football fans
      https://i.imgflip.com/1xlxez.jpg

    2. Re: The Future Obesity And Diabetes Olympics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice cherry picking LOL

  11. Wait, let me get this straight by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So, you seriously want me to get off my couch, where beer is like $1 and pizza is like $8, get in a car which most millenials don't even have, drive in congested roads for like a couple of hours (usually a 30 minute drive), pay $20 to $40 for parking, still have to walk 10 blocks in the rain, get barcoded and scanned while waiting in another 30 minute line, to then pay $20 easy for like 1 beer and a hotdog, all to be crowded into a box where I can't see anything, and you think I want to do that?

    Seriously?

    (this has been Seriously with Will and Amy)

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    1. Re:Wait, let me get this straight by UperPoti · · Score: 1

      Low Latency FTW!

    2. Re:Wait, let me get this straight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree and feel the same about other sports and to a lesser degree music concerts. I do enjoy watching these matches (OWL finals this weekend were a blast) but I can't see watching the games in an area as a better experience.

    3. Re:Wait, let me get this straight by No+Longer+an+AC · · Score: 1

      That's pretty much why I stopped going to concerts except for the pizza. That and having to choose between drinking or being able to drive myself home.

      Somehow they still sell out.

      But then a strange phenomenon happened. Everyone who goes to these concerts or games now whips out their cell phones so they an watch it on a small screen or play Candy Crush while they watch people play whatever it is they're playing.

    4. Re:Wait, let me get this straight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      get in a car which most millenials don't even have

      Most millenials in Manhattan, maybe. Everywhere else, most millenials have at least one car available to them, if not own at least one car.

  12. Going to an arena to watch a screen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're better off renting a movie theater to sell tickets. Or just skip the whole thing because no one really wants to gather to watch someone play video games. That's tres 1980's when someone gets to level 30 in Pac-Man.

  13. You mean an arcade?!?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the Nation's First Video Gaming Arena

    In the 1980s, we called these "video game arcades ". A typical example was the arcade portrayed in TRON:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07Upyd9EVog

  14. Proof the telecom companies make too much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The big telecom companies are spending their money on assets outside of their core competency. That tends to produce loses. The dumb pipe companies have said they don't want to be dumb pipe, but they should stay dumb pipe, or else, time to regulate those bastards.

  15. how stupid are you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    high tech game place in south philly?

    and naggers have destroyed it in 3...2...1...

    bet

  16. New use for the aging Astrodome? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just thinking about the less than utilized Astrodome. It seats far more than the proposed Spectacor, but what a kick to be able to host gaming team competitions in the "8th Wonder of the World" in the nation's 4th largest city. It is of course the world's first domed stadium, where Baseball, Football, Rodeo, Automobile Thrill shows and Destruction Derbies were housed for decades. Just about every esport has been played there for realz. Seems a pretty good fit. Probably impractical, but well...yeah. LOL

  17. Does anyone serious even want this? by Snotnose · · Score: 1

    I remember 10-15 years ago, I'd spend an hour or two to get my ping count down by 10 ms. With the PS3, nor the PS4, that's not an option. Given my experience that low ping count yields better K/D ratios, why would anyone want to play these streamed games? Seems clear to me, the folks with the most $$$ will have the better internet and thus will dominate.

    1. Re:Does anyone serious even want this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong article, numbnuts.

  18. Porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's basically what porn is, isn't it? With the addition of chicks (usually)?
    Isn't that also the appeal of pro wrestling?
    For that matter, what is boxing and MMA?

    1. Re:Porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People who like shit like spectator sports, wrestling, boxing, sumo, MMA, etc. are faggots. They enjoy watching sweaty dudes grabbing, holding and fondling each other.

  19. Um.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Spend some money to remove the 'need' your data caps maybe first?

  20. So, folks watch other people play a game? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where's the fun in watching? Doing, si, watching, caca.

  21. Localhost by DigitalisAkujin · · Score: 1

    I live in Philly a few blocks from the other gaming arena called Localhost. https://localhost.gg/

    They are usually packed on the weekends. Think a LAN center that turns into a place where people can come and watch on a giant projector. They have already hosted many events.

    Sadly the space is out of the way, has little parking, and can only comfortably hold about 100 people. I'm not surprised that Comcast wanted a bigger space.

    1. Re:Localhost by Ranbot · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I think there's enough interest to make this work in Philly (I live in the area, Philly 'burbs). Particularly, if the venue fills in the calendar with other non-gaming events. Heck, if they aired the Eagles games there live, I bet many folks would go tailgate, and watch at Fusion in the same parking lot for a better view of the game than seats at the Linc.

      Relatedly, I bet there are musicians who would want to take advantage of the visual potential of a small/intimate venue filled with screens. There's a lot of potential for a venue like that beyond eSports.

      Hopefully they can make the acoustics work... I'd imagine a 3,500 seat room filled with screens presents a unique acoustic challenge (lots of hard, reflective surfaces).

  22. I wonder how many loot boxes they'll put around... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For people to buy keys to open at this place?

  23. Streaming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do they not know streaming exists? This is stupid beyond belief.

  24. $40M on Ventilation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lost in the dtails is that $40M of the cost will be for the ventilation system to deal with the crowd's smell.