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Google Launches Global Council To Advise on AI and Tech Ethics (reuters.com)
Google announced today that it has formed an external advisory group -- dubbed the Advanced Technology External Advisory Council (ATEAC) -- that is tasked with "considering some of the most complex challenges in AI," including facial recognition and fairness in machine learning. From a report: The council, which is slated to publish a report at the end of 2019, includes technology experts, digital ethicists, and people with public policy backgrounds, Kent Walker, Google's senior vice president for global affairs, said at a Massachusetts Institute of Technology conference. The group is meant to provide recommendations for Google and other companies and researchers working in areas such as facial recognition software, a form of automation that has prompted concerns about racial bias and other limitations. "We want to have the most informed and thoughtful conversations we can," Walker said on stage at the MIT Technology Review event in San Francisco. "We want to sit down with the council and see what agenda they want to set."
(((ethics))) from morally degenerate bigots
Next step... sky net
Khazar Talmudic Jews believe this of all they call goyim/gentiles (any non-jew): Jews = biggest racists of all for which they "jew guilt" you for no less! They're hypocrites known as thieves all thru history or were Argentines in the 1940 under Peron, Spanish inquistion, France (1306), Egypt (despoiled/robbed by jews), Arabs (pre & post 1948), England (1330 Edward longshanks), Romans under titus, Russia pogroms and Germany who got rid of them from their nations nazi german's too? No. Driven into DESERTS ages ago! Don't wonder why after all those exilings above.
Should anyone doubt any of this see Jacob Javits' crony Rosenthal spill the beans on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4zMVZ8HnFI/ where he called all Christianity fools for helping Israel and the biggest scam of all time per their beliefs below from their Talmud.
This is the province of the synagogue of Satan (Pharisees whom Jesus Christ himself kicked to the curb out of the temple & they killed him for it. Jeremiah did the same to them also + the Essenes could not stand them either breaking away from the pharisee corruption):
Jew Talmud excerpts (the book that calls Christ's mother a whore & a bastard of a roman soldier):
1. Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal."
2. Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed."
3. Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."
4. Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."
5. Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording."
6. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."
7. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."
8. Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."
9. Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."
10. Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: "A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."
11. Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."
12. Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."
13. Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."
14. Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated."
15. Gad. Shas. 2:2: "A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl."
16. Tosefta. Aboda Zara B, 5: "If a goy kills a goy or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy, he is NOT responsible."
17. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 388: "It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces."
18. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples."
19. Tosefta, Abda Zara VIII, 5: "How to interpret the word 'robbery.' A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy."
20. Seph. Jp., 92, 1: "God has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all nations."
21. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen H
It's a lobby group. There is no way in hell it's anything else, regardless of how they present themselves.
Google has demonstrated less than ethical behavior. The last thing I want is them advising me on ethics. As someone else pointed out, this is basically a lobbying group.
The Grand Dragon Protector of all the Js.
Google: Dear *external* tech/ethics experts, please give us advice on how to use our tech in an ethical way
Slashdot: "morally degenerate bigots", "Next step... sky net"
When you're so "woke" that you interpret literally every action as evil, you are both (a) every bit as naive as people who interpret literally every action as good, and (b) you're actively sabotaging yourself (if Google gets the same responses from selfish actions and selfless action, what do you think that teaches them?)
It's a typical trick that works every time: Set up foundations, councils, duly elected members, special iconography, annual awards ceremonies, and special titles of office. Then, nobody questions your actions; they're obviously official and well thought out.
"Google receives the 2025 Azimov Award for Ethical AI!" will read the headlines.
It's all a show. (((They))) know how to put on a good show.
Maybe Google can tell us how much money it takes to make it ethical for a company to further enable China to organ harvest political dissidents.
This guy nailed it.
You've already bought it.
What the actual fuck?
Run! They're coming for us!
Are they going to advise "ethics" to their Chinese state customers, or just maunder on about how guilty white men in tech should feel about not having a vagina?
I know, let's discuss the ethics of hiring H1Bs from overseas instead of local people?
-Styopa
When it comes to teaching ethics, it should be mandatory requirement that the person involved has children and a whole family,
meaning a person who has the wisdom to make the correct choices and has some basic understanding stemming from the children.
I know this requirement would disqualify incels and 99% of Feminists, but that's how it should be if you want proper people making decisions on ethics.
There are millions of whole-family parents (especially in the U.S.) who have decided to cut chunks of flesh from their sons' sexual organs because, you know, like, that's just what people do, or something. (And, no. I'm not talking about Jews in particular, as they represent a minuscule fraction of the perpetrators of circumcision.)
Your criteria might be necessary, but it sure as hell ain't sufficient.
The kings of vaporware and theivery push for regulations on vaporware (to fill their pockets and secure their position). Break these clowns up, already. We are sick of you, Alpha . . . I mean, Google. Eric Schidt is as big a weasel as ever. If you are a millennial and you are buying this bullshit, wake up. Actual criminal charges from the EU can't come soon enough.
The other day I figured out what "wisdom" really is: it's when your counterfactuals become a lot less shiny.
Many of the youthful believe that if Trump hadn't been elected, America would be a shiny, perfect place. (They won't say this out loud, of course, being generation cynical.) Or they believe that if Trump were impeached, America would return to its former glory as a shiny, perfect place.
I personally kind of hope Trump gets reelected in 2020 (along with a Democrat house and a Democrat senate) so that he remains on full display for eight solid years. Eight years in the incessant limelight turns just about anyone into old news, on both sides of the aisle. At which point, we could have an excellent meeting of the minds, and begin to more forward again.
[*] I found Trump tiresome after eight minutes, because—apart from the Brooklyn bluster—he's entirely unlike Richard Feynman. Feynman could not go ten minutes without explaining something deep; Trump can't go ten minutes without anti-explaining something into a deep ravine. If it takes eight years for the other side to catch up, it's the least of many evils for me to simply sit here and wait.
My newfound patience in old age comes from the recognition that the counterfactuals are rarely as bright and shiny as what one wishes to suppose. Stark counterfactuals about a Hilary administration running America into the ground are full of shit, too. With Hilary we would have had more of the old problems, and fewer of the new problems; with Trump, we've got more of the new problems, and fewer of the old problems. Hilary is just as difficult to listen to as Trump, but she's easier to turn off. She was highly unlikely to blindside her own security forces by unilaterally discontinuing military readiness on the Korean peninsula. (Given equally repellent, it's harder to look away when an egocentric pyromaniac gets his hands on a blowtorch.) Outside of that, the difference between the two is fairly marginal for me on a day to day basis. Trump has done many stupid things, but Hilary would surely have done many stupid things, too.
So what's the counterfactual? What superior reality would exist if trillion dollar corporations could be convinced not to invest in industry-funded lobby groups?
Who would you rather have instead? Bill Gates? Larry Elision? Mark Zuckerberg? Jeff Bezos? Anyone at all from the entire Uber universe? Elizabeth Holmes? The bipolar snarky–saintly Steve Jobs?
On the other hand, if you've got a viable game plan for displacing cynical industry lobby groups altogether, everyone and their dog in a thousand mile radius is sitting on the edge of their seat, awaiting your next word like you had just discovered a more fantastic way to procreate, and you were about to spill the beans entirely out of the goodness of your own heart, with not even the slightest possible vestige of a business plan or a Ticket Master toll booth.
Yeah I think they "became evil" long before they removed that from their mission statement. The fact they are helping the Chinese create a huge big brother type monitoring system in China brings up plenty of big red flags. Not to mention their manipulation of search results to censor the political right/conservative. (They recently delisted reddit's "the_donald" - search terms : reddit the Donald and see what you get.) Nope google has lost its place in Tech leadership, and now has become what Microsoft was in the 90s - a behemoth that cares nothing for its users, its impact on the geo-political and is bowing to the $$$ - so zero ethics there.
Council says: To uphold ethical standards, don't use Google (nor Microsoft, Yahoo and Apple).
I need to be on that team,
How should I go about that, as an IT Business Analyst/Cog/Philosopher wannabe.
Any tips for LinkedIn, Personal Website, or otherwise that would get some big nobody like me the right to contribute to such an important consideration of happening.
Send them my way.
I have a firstnamelastname.com with Google Apps - What else do I need to do to prostitute myself into a favorable position to deliberate with the best?
Trust me,
I need to know. Any starting points help.
Sooner or later, the "ethics" that we're seeing people attempt to shoehorn into technology are going to amount to "monitor everyone, everywhere, all the time, and punish people for things our company/the current people in government do not like about them."
"Ethics" in technology are a joke. A terrible one. Because the "ethics" they choose will be those most beneficial to the company and the government.
Not tracking users and amassing as many data points as possible for privacy reasons will be the ultimate recommendation of such external council, right?
It's a PR move to stave off an EU style privacy regulation in North America.
Facial recognition is not a problem. It works when a brand buys the correct advanced software at the correct price for the complex task.
Nations all over the world use working facial recognition on all their citizens and tourists everyday with the results expected for the cost of the systems.
Want great facial recognition? Look around d the world and buy into great facial recognition tech.
Machine learning is going to take in criminal, police and CCTV data. It will show who is doing crime and in what inner city areas every day, all day.
Face, gait, voice prints, who the police arrest and who faces court for crime is not a "fairness" matter for "machine learning".
That is the population who did the crime, who was arrested and who faced court.
Who was in the prison system. What they do on average when released? Who returned to the prison system after release after more crimes.
What was the recidivism rate in average populations?
Want to make machine learning better? Give it to more parts of the USA so they can track gaits, faces, criminals, people using fake ID, people attempting to create citizenship using fake ID.
Give police in high intensity crime areas the new software tools they need to search for and track criminals 24/7.
Support to bring together CCTV, gait, voice prints, automatic number plate recognition, the ability to collect the face of a drive and passenger in a vehicle.
See the real time results as an area slowly allows full gentrification to take place. Enjoy what an AI can do in your community. Clear up the trash, waste by allowing city officials to focus on problem areas.
To stop crime by allowing police to find and arrest criminals.
To detect the use of fake ID, shared ID and illegal immigrants as they attempt to use more city services.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
I'm pretty sure whoever modded you down failed to notice a 'whoosh' sound overhead. But to be fair to that moderator, you post does ramble a bit, and it took me a while to be only fairly certain that you're being sarcastic. If it hadn't been for your username and your sig I might not have clued in to that possibility.
'The Economy' is a giant Ponzi scheme whose most pitiable suckers are the youngest among us and the yet-unborn.
Why would it be 'whoosh'?
Want great facial recognition tech that works over an entire population, invest in it until it always works.
Machine learning is going to get its data sets from criminal populations all over the USA.
Such data sets will reflect what the FBI found over decades about inner city crime and criminals.
Give machine learning data sets about a nations recidivism rate and see what the data shows.
CCTV is mostly ready with gait, automatic number plate recognition. Facial recognition is ready if the police can pay for the best facial recognition tech.
Get some machine learning to find illegal immigrants and fake ID and shared ID use.
Someone created a US citizen that is found in no national and federal database? Why is that fake data set at a city/state ID level allowed to be legal?
Connect city/state/federal dataset and sort for data that was created, is fake, was inserted and has no history in other data sets.
A fast real time matching project that machine learning should be good at. Does any federal photo match the fake state and city photo?
Add in bank account creation and tax records, vehicle usage, passport usage, that holiday out side the USA?
Thats what makes state and federal database work so interesting and useful. All the data is kept separated.
Time to share data set all over the USA and see what is fake, created, new and has no past.
Start to use computer networks to find criminals and illegal immigrants. Rather than let them stay hidden under decades of data privacy laws.
Machine learning to keep a city looking great? Allow the waste and trash location to be reported and the why of the trash and waste to be understood.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Too bad facial recognition systems can't recognize blacks. And even if they fix that problem, the woke set will continue crowing from the rooftops that AI is racist since it was made by evil white devils and blah blah blah. The "AI" will be used to squelch dissenting whites and cement the glorious brown future.
Great idea, lets out all those people in witness protection and all our spies at the same time. What could possibly go wrong?
The cops in most big American cities can't be bothered to stop people committing crime right outside the police station. The ONLY thing panoptic surveillance will be used for is repressing political dissent.
Cybernetic totalitarianism is already here. The Machine is always watching.
The good part is the FBI counts the stats. :)
The new AI, machine learning should track that inner city crime rate.
The way to make it working
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
The major problem is that the police can't be bothered to fight actual crime. This will not be improved by fitting them out with the equipment of totalitarianism.
The real time crime stats collected by machine will be useful all over the USA for researchers.
Inner city crime rates.
What gentrification results in.
What new rental assistance does in once low crime middle and upper class areas.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Who knows, it might help a little with crime. After all they say East Germany was pretty safe...
Wait a minute, who are we kidding? These are American cops. We're going to get totalitarian repression AND it will still be unsafe to walk downtown at night.
Communist nations did see some crime and the way the Communist Romania's secret police had to respond was interesting.
Ioanid Gang https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
A 1960 propaganda film had to be made to show how they got tracked down.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"