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Huawei Tops $100 Billion Revenue For First Time Despite Political Headwinds (cnbc.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from CNBC: Huawei's revenue grew 19.5 percent in 2018, surpassing $100 billion for the first time, despite continuing political headwinds from around the world. Sales came in at 721.2 billion yuan ($107.13 billion) last year. Net profit reached 59.3 billion yuan, higher by 25.1 percent compared to a year ago. The revenue growth was faster than that seen in 2017, but the net profit rise was slightly slower.

Huawei's numbers are a bright spot for the firm, which has faced intense political pressure. The U.S. government has raised concerns that Huawei's network gear could be used by the Chinese government for espionage. Huawei has repeatedly denied those allegations. Sales in its carrier business, which is its core networking equipment arm, reached 294 billion yuan, slightly below the 297.8 billion yuan recorded in 2017. The real driver of growth was the consumer business, with revenue for that division rising 45.1 percent year-on-year to reach 348.9 billion yuan. For the first time, consumer business is now the biggest share of Huawei's revenue.

39 comments

  1. The Dogs Will Bark But the Caravan Marches on by bogaboga · · Score: 1, Interesting

    ...The revenue growth was faster than that seen in 2017... For the first time, consumer business is now the biggest share of Huawei's revenue.

    I personally didn't know much about Huawei till the fella in the White House started blabbing about it.

    Way to go Huawei. Like Putin once said (I'll paraphrase), "Let the dogs bark, you march on..."

    Be careful though, you may be prevented from using Android - ask ZTE! about this.

    1. Re: The Dogs Will Bark But the Caravan Marches on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of all the things. The US is the problem not the solution

    2. Re:The Dogs Will Bark But the Caravan Marches on by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 0

      I personally didn't know much about Huawei till the fella in the White House started blabbing about it.

      If the US is so shrill in denouncing Huawei, they must have a reason.

      Most likely Huawei's is the only router the NSA can't crack.

    3. Re: The Dogs Will Bark But the Caravan Marches on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The US talks a big game but can't back it up with any action. If they really had anything against huawei other than not being able to control their every bowel movement, they would have done something besides whine about unsubstantiated spying. The US is completely irrelevant in real technology these days.

    4. Re:The Dogs Will Bark But the Caravan Marches on by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 2

      Would you rather get spied on by China or USA? I personally choose China because what can they do? Dial home with my dick pics?

    5. Re:The Dogs Will Bark But the Caravan Marches on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The way I see it is that the USA Patent mess has made it too hard to US firms to lead economically. Tax evasion rules mean manufacturing will be done outside the USA, so transferring generic knowledge, often more to other countries.

      Same with medicines and research. nobody wants to spend money on real R&D is patent trolls create uncertainty. Good ideas die on the business assessment and risks table. Yeah, they know there is evergreening. If they don't cooperate, someone else will eat their lunch. enter the dragon.

      Apple had to fight, but if they tried to produce an iTard today there would be trouble. Bad enough Vietnam era broad RF spectrum secret patents was evergreened for modem chips (still with AT command sets). Or MS Fat filesystem, which considering CP/M is hard to fathom.

      The Caravan will march forward, until much needed patent reform occurs in the USA that stops patent blackmail, especially for startups. This probably wont happen because the mega-monopolies blockbuster patents are too big and donate too much.

      Not stated is China has started a new war to break fake invalid patents, and emulate around difficult ones, and ready to challenge bogus ones. They may also use the too obscure defence.

      So Mr Trump must decide on NEW rules that favor America first, that will also piss off greedy IP holders working against the national interest.

    6. Re: The Dogs Will Bark But the Caravan Marches on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Exactly. Given how much the US likes to compromise communications it is highly likely Huawei gear is more proof to it.

      From the US we have a consistent tale of Lie Lie. Russia don't interfer with Venezuela but hey it's fine the US try to overthrow the government. The Venezuelan people are suffering couldn't have anything to do with over a decade of sanctions?? Invade weaker nations at will. No regard for international laws. A pure criminal at work is the US.

    7. Re: The Dogs Will Bark But the Caravan Marches on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Vladimir Putin will be assassinated tomorrow at noon. Find a new job now.

  2. Official Brtish criticism should be the big news by Bruce66423 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Having been given access to their source code, the British judgement seems to be that it is truly and irredemably awful and so should be rejected for 5G for THAT reason rather than alleged Chinese government issues. Of course this may explain why their finance director was carrying Apple equipment when arrested in Vancouver...

  3. Why are they bad again? by Arzaboa · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I keep seeing stories about how the 5 Eyes kinda agree that Huawei isn't a great thing for the world. I still have yet to see exactly why this is true.

    In practice, I have not seen their devices pinging home. I have never found audio files being stored from the hidden microphone in the power supplies. I have not seen that their devices have any more security holes than anyone else's. I have not seen any evidence that their products are inferior from a technical perspective. Technically, you can break Cisco equipment just as much as you can break Huawei equipment.

    Did I miss a news day? Did I miss a new routing protocol that secretly routes network equipment information over SSL through QQ? Is it that I can't read Chinese comments in code? I have yet to find the kill code routine for all Huawei devices in their code. Why again are we scared of Huawei?

    --
    Good night. Don't let the boogeyman bit - Kate Danley

    1. Re:Why are they bad again? by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 1

      I've seen some scary Huawei stories, and if I were the kind of guy who is always connecting to open wifi networks in airports etc they would concern me. As it is I don't have much issue with Huawei devices.

      If I remember correctly the story was about devices installing firmware updates over plain http which meant that a mitm could intercept and install custom firmware. It wasn't malicious though, it was just lazy.

    2. Re: Why are they bad again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lazy is the very definition of US hardware makers. Or negligence. Or censorship, spying etc. Huawei will probably just not bother with the US market.

    3. Re:Why are they bad again? by _merlin · · Score: 1

      I've dealt with their wireless modems, and some of their network infrastructure equipment. The quality of the software they produce is terrible, and what's even worse is their attitude when you report issues. They will try to deflect, blame the customer, deny issues, and even resort to accusing you of racism. Then they'll go and fix the issue, and not mention it in the release notes for the update. You need to re-test everything yourself to work out if/when an issue is fixed.

      I don't believe they're spying for the Chinese government and/or the communist party. They're just so damn incompetent when it comes to software that they're probably being hacked by anyone half competent. They seem to be at least somewhat aware of this reputation, and have promised to create a new security team, and spend money improving their processes. But I'll believe it when I see real changes.

    4. Re:Why are they bad again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've dealt with their wireless modems, and some of their network infrastructure equipment. The quality of the software they produce is terrible, and what's even worse is their attitude when you report issues. They will try to deflect, blame the customer, deny issues.

      sounds like dealing with CISCO

    5. Re: Why are they bad again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good. The less chinese goods the better.

    6. Re:Why are they bad again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      China is Steve Bannon's nemesis.

    7. Re:Why are they bad again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the ascend chip maybe? it looks like it'll invalidate alot of current state of the art side channels and leaks in and around memory access?

      my take on this is that huawei devices can actually be made secure, and that has the 5 eyes worried, hence this big dumb media strategy/narrative with repeatedly shitting on huawei, facts be damned.

    8. Re:Why are they bad again? by acoustix · · Score: 2

      They've stolen IP from several companies. Their OS was a direct copy of IOS. Their device manuals were word for word copies of Cisco documentation. How's that for starters?

      60 Minutes

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      "A plan fiendishly clever in its intricacies"- Homer Simpson
    9. Re: Why are they bad again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good. The less chinese goods the better.

      IKR? Says someone, typing on their chinese-built computer, after getting home shopping at Wal*Mart..

  4. Re:Official Brtish criticism should be the big new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    She should definitely write an ebook about being arrested. I know for sure that creimer will do so when he gets arrested.

  5. Re:Official Brtish criticism should be the big new by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

    Having been given access to their source code, the British judgement seems to be that it is truly and irredemably awful

    Have the Brits looked at any other commercial closed source software?

    It is all awful.

  6. Re: Official Brtish criticism should be the big ne by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You name it, it is under review

  7. don't hit the red button by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    lol Advertising at its best.

  8. holy crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shanghal bill made a comment and his regulator didn't follow up immediately.
    This place is going downhill

  9. Re: not suprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Trailing industries? Huawei stole the IP needed to get them where they are, some of which was FROM US tech companies, lol. They are also government subsidized.

    If people want to enable and empower that kind of thing, so be it. But acting like they are benevolent masters of tech is a joke.

  10. Just other network providers... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like Juniper and Cisco have had *MULTIPLE* and *REPEATED* 'debugging backdoors' left in *PRODUCTION CODE* on *MULTIPLE OCCASIONS*.

    I'm not saying to trust Huawei, but I am saying that the issue is with *EVERY* major hardware provider for these markets, and the only way for ANYONE to have secure equipment is if they are *ALL* required to provide source code *WITH* their products, as well as a PROVEN build environment so the hardware purchaser/deployer can provably verify the binary images to the source code with the supplied toolchain, as well as use their own trusted toolchain or modifications to ensure the security and integrity of the hardware and software platform. Anything less must be assumed insecure by past actions.

  11. Re: not suprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    where did I claim they were benevolent or that they aren't thievies. Regardless how they got there they are NOW the leaders. using alternative US companies means using subpar stuff.

  12. where are you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The chairman of the Huawei think United State of America is a Loser.
    This the time to step up for all the patriots to destroy this third rated company and this loser.

    1. Re: where are you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://giphy.com/gifs/hyperrpg-twitch-hyper-rpg-rabbit-power-go-3onUilF8N9azONSPI5

  13. Re: "Shanghai" Bill is a liar hundreds of times ov by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why do you care? No one gives a shit about your spam. You are no better than the Nazi flag ascii art guy or the Republicans are all faggots going to jail guy.

    At least the Nazi guy is funny sometimes. You and Republican faggot jail guy are just boring and stupid.

  14. Economic Reality by Jzanu · · Score: 2

    The simple truth is the United States and its domestic market matters less than it did decades ago. The world is all developing, and more trading partners are truly more important. The bad luck of the US being saddled with Trump at the time it needs to embrace greater trade and reforms to enable that doesn't help. The US after the pacific war created a much better democracy from the previously militarist and colonial-oriented one in Japan, and now it dominates in high technology trade. Why couldn't the US adopt that model domestically? Why aren't they even trying to adapt anymore?

  15. Follow The Money by ArkiMage · · Score: 1

    Makes ya wonder.. If fear of Huawei, led to Apple whispering in the ears of select politicians... What exactly does ~$7M a year in lobbying buy you?

    1. Re: Follow The Money by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      The main thing to recognize is that Apple has grown to be a big mediocre company, like General Motors or Emerson Electric. Their place in the market is the plodding middle. At this point iPhones are boring shit, like Corvettes.

  16. Re: not suprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder how they steal technology that nobody else have.... let alone US.

    Even if they stole in the earlier days to catch up the list of viable competitors doesn't include US companies. So I guess Europeans should be more pissed.... but somehow Americans are triggered.... because ... China.

  17. Re: "Shanghai" Bill is a liar hundreds of times o by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

    Yes, but they just dump that block of text after every post that Shankhi makes. It's a near zero effort action. Like the barking of a neighbor's dog it is something you just ignore. Unless you're feeling like being trolled.

  18. pot, meet kettle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cisco stole IP from Stanford university. How's that for starters?

    Cisco steals