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US Firm Wins Bid To Block Huawei From Subsea Pacific Cables (theregister.co.uk)

Posted by BeauHD on from the given-the-boot dept.

An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Register: An American company is to build a series of undersea cables linking Australia to China after the Aussie government put its foot down and kicked Huawei off the contract. Building on our reports from last year that Australia had blocked Huawei from building a 4,000km cable between Australia, Papua New Guinea and the Solomon Islands, U.S. company TE Subcom has reportedly won the deal to build the link.

"All options for meshing the Pacific Islands are good for the development of the economies of these countries," Keir Preedy, chief executive of the Solomon Island Submarine Cable Company, told Reuters. The company is developing the Solomons' new cable. In addition to the Aus-PNG-Solomons route previously announced, TE Subcom will build a cable spur to Hong Kong -- Chinese territory. "It is due for completion in 2022 and also includes a possible trans-Pacific branch to Los Angeles," the newswire stated.

33 comments

  1. Turning Huawei into a cuss word by rmdingler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We could argue compromised Chinese technology vs compromised US tech companies until we're blue in the face, but whoever's in charge of turning Huawei into a cautionary tale is winning, and not by a small margin.

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    Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know.

    Ernest Hemingway

    1. Re:Turning Huawei into a cuss word by gweihir · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is properly called "corruption", because it funnels money to worse offerings. Corruption is always strong with those that have or crave power, because they have no integrity.

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      Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
    2. Re: Turning Huawei into a cuss word by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Story must have been edited by a Huawei hater

    3. Re:Turning Huawei into a cuss word by rmdingler · · Score: 2

      Political corruption always exists, as powerful interests lobby powerful governments to do their bidding.

      Worse offerings is an amplifier predicated on the side you find yourself rooting for. Integrity is an admirable trait in many regards, yet sociopathy is an advantageous trait in high stakes game theory.

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      Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know.

      Ernest Hemingway

    4. Re:Turning Huawei into a cuss word by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Political corruption exists more in people that do not want to work for the public (what is described in the job application), they are private politicians.

    5. Re:Turning Huawei into a cuss word by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      What is the caution supposed to be? Your interpretation may be very different from mine.

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      Seven puppies were harmed during the making of this post.
    6. Re:Turning Huawei into a cuss word by gweihir · · Score: 2

      Worse offerings is an amplifier predicated on the side you find yourself rooting for.

      Haha, funny. You just predicted there can be no rational decisions. As an engineer, I find that pretty clueless and insulting to my profession. But I have gotten used to it. The irrational masses do not respect those that actually understand how things work, because they interfere with their misconceptions.

      Integrity is an admirable trait in many regards, yet sociopathy is an advantageous trait in high stakes game theory.

      Game theory is a limited playing field where you walk out with your winnings and losses. In any closed system (such as a society, for example), people using gaming theory for their decisions have to be carefully monitored and controlled or they eventually kill everybody. Hence integrity is a necessary quality for anybody that can be valuable in something larger than the individual.

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    7. Re:Turning Huawei into a cuss word by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funneling? Really?

      Also your declaration of whether an offering is better or worse is a completely subjective determination based upon your values. If someone valued ...oh...say...the security of democratic and free societies then blocking Huawei is better.

      You are clearly no authority on corruption and integrity. For example you argue corruption because of no integrity but you never support your assertion of no integrity. That is not intellectually honest behavior. So you actually disqualify yourself as an authority because you show a specific and identifiable lack of integrity in your post.

    8. Re:Turning Huawei into a cuss word by AmiMoJo · · Score: 0

      The US really, really doesn't want China to become a technology superpower. Aside from limiting the ability of the US to spy, it's a massive economic threat. Or at least the US sees it that way, i.e. as a zero sum game.

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      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    9. Re:Turning Huawei into a cuss word by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      Spot on!

    10. Re:Turning Huawei into a cuss word by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Thanks.

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      Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
    11. Re:Turning Huawei into a cuss word by gweihir · · Score: 1

      This is about engineering products. If you think evaluating their relative merits is "subjective", then you are utterly clueless. But what can you expect from AC scum.

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      Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
  2. Not quite by bug1 · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Coral Sea Cable System (CSCS), being funded largely by Australian Government is replacing the build Huawei was initially planning on building. CSCS is being built by Vocus/Alcatel.
    https://www.coralseacablesyste...
    https://www.submarinecablemap....

    This new cable also has branches to PNG/Solomons (and everywhere else), its being pushed by the same guy who did Hawaiki, which is AU-NZ-US
    https://www.itnews.com.au/news...

    1. Re:Not quite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Wonder if the new contractor will subcontract the job to Huawei...

  3. About that Hong Kong cable spur.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who wants to bet that gets held up (forever).

    1. Re:About that Hong Kong cable spur.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no it will be built by Huawei.

  4. Re:Good. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Welcome DailyCaller and InfoWars readers...I guess.

  5. would be a shame if by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    something cut the cables

  6. China should put a stop to this cable !! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    An American company is to build a series of undersea cables linking Australia to China after the Aussie government put its foot down and kicked Huawei off the contract

    If I were the Chinese government I would put a stop to this cable.

    China should no longer tolerate any more discriminatory practices from Australia !!

    1. Re:China should put a stop to this cable !! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "China should no longer tolerate any more discriminatory practices from Australia !!"

      I hope your boss saw that you wrote this for them. Should be worth a nice bonus!

    2. Re:China should put a stop to this cable !! by bug1 · · Score: 1

      Australian government has nothing to do with this cable which is due for completion in 2022

      Australian government blocked Huawei from a previous cable to be completed in 2020 due to security concerns about equipment at Sydney landing point (rightly or wrongly), but they paid A$100m to fund the cable themselves (CSCS).

  7. Get real by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... the Aussie government put its foot down ...

    Get real: Australian politicians do whatever the US government demands, until it contravenes international treaties.

  8. Hypocrits by SuperDre · · Score: 1

    Well at least now we know for certain the a goverment is listening in on those lines, the US... With huawei there still hasn't been presented one shred of evidrnce the chinese goverment is capable of spying through huawei's hardware, but with US hardware we already have enoug evidence of them spying on everybody, including it's own allies..

  9. Turning rmdingler/USA into a cuss word by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We could argue compromised Chinese technology vs compromised US tech companies until we're blue in the face

    but whoever's in charge of turning Huawei into a cautionary tale is winning, and not by a small margin.

    LOL, if you actually believed in the validity of your second quote, you would not have expressed the uncertain qualification of your first quote.
    tldr: rmdingler himself is not even convinced of the "winning", and not by a small margin

  10. From bad to worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They went from a company that may possibly install backdoors to one that will certainly do so.

    1. Re:From bad to worse by xenobyte · · Score: 1

      They went from a company that may possibly install backdoors to one that will certainly do so.

      No, it went from a company that will certainly install backdoors to benefit someone else to one that equally certainly will do so, but primarily to benefit our side.

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    2. Re:From bad to worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are just afraid of technological obsolescence - Huwei and China lead in actual legitimate research and development now. The US is second at best and in more fields a distant third rank contender now.

  11. Can we trust huawei? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I say not given that I've twice submitted original and geek relevant BBC stories concerning Huawei to slashdot and twice the submission were mod-bombed into oblivion and my email junk folder flooded with over 6,000 junk emails with the chinese character encoding.

    "Huawei caught spying on Pakistan's CCTV system."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0004cgm/panorama-can-we-trust-huawei

    Also:

    Dr Levy - the technical director of GCHQ's National Cyber Security Centre calls out "The security in Huawei is like nothing else - it's engineering like it's back in the year 2000 - it's very, very shoddy." with a strong assumption to assume incompetence over malice.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-47830056

    I've seen very similar down modding on Quora, critical questions and answers down voted; apologists with transparently fake western names and very unusual grammar.

    Posted anonymously for the obvious reason that I don't want to get mail bombed again.

    No retreat.

  12. We want freedom... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... to be spied by the americans instead of the Chinese. Yeah.

    But is there any logic to this? I mean, can't you just check for backdoors?