Fake Mouse On Twitter Mocks Overgeneralized Scientific Research (twitter.com)
DevNull127 writes: Research scientist James Heathers is a postdoctoral research associate working on bio-signals and meta-science research at Northeastern University, with a PhD from the University of Sydney. He's also pretending to be a mouse on Twitter. And every tweet consists of the exact same two words...
Heathers retweets articles about scientific studies — usually articles with glossy photos and enticing headlines like "Exercise during pregnancy protects children from obesity, study finds." His tweets add the two crucial missing words. "In mice."
In this case a doctoral student at Washington State University measured a specific protein's level in the offspring of mice that performed 60 minutes of moderate-intensity exercise every morning during pregnancy — and in regular mice. On the basis of that he recommended "that women — whether or not they are obese or have diabetes — exercise regularly during pregnancy because it benefits their children's metabolic health."
The name of the Twitter feed: JustSaysInMice.
Other mouse-based studies turning up on the Twitter feed:
Heathers retweets articles about scientific studies — usually articles with glossy photos and enticing headlines like "Exercise during pregnancy protects children from obesity, study finds." His tweets add the two crucial missing words. "In mice."
In this case a doctoral student at Washington State University measured a specific protein's level in the offspring of mice that performed 60 minutes of moderate-intensity exercise every morning during pregnancy — and in regular mice. On the basis of that he recommended "that women — whether or not they are obese or have diabetes — exercise regularly during pregnancy because it benefits their children's metabolic health."
The name of the Twitter feed: JustSaysInMice.
Other mouse-based studies turning up on the Twitter feed:
- How Fatty Diets Stop the Brain From Saying 'No' To Food
- Reused Cooking Oil Ups Risk of Metastases In Breast Cancer Patients
- Keto Diet Not Effective, Causes Blood Sugar Problems In Women
- Growth Hormone Acts To Foil Weight Loss: Study
When you read those headlines, just remember to add those two words...
"In mice."
Is this abortion of an article?
Clearly it's astroturfing, but wow they paid too much to the wrong people.
no idea. it's garbage tier.
Clearly it's AstroTurfing, but wow they paid too much to the wrong people.
If you barbecue a Koran, people get killed,
but if you barbecue a bible,
nobody dies?
Please discuss...
And hereâ(TM)s more proof. Fuck science.
Obligatory Fortune Cookie based version.
Reminds me of the fortune cookie game where you say "in bed" at the end.
Just another day in Paradise
Everything has to be spectacular and groundbreaking and changing everything. Here is news: Most research is incremental or not directly applicable and the rest is almost never groundbreaking. Deal with it. This is a slow process and over-hyping results is a huge disservice to all of humanity.
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
If you barbecue a Koran, people get killed,
but if you barbecue a bible,
nobody dies?
Please discuss...
Some people take their fairy tales too seriously?
Where I live - Georgia, USA - we can't buy alcohol on Sunday mornings because it was ruled that people go to Church on Sunday mornings and therefore, no alcohol sales. See, we had a lot of these Evangelical Christian cultists in our government . They're always screaming about religious freedom but have no problem forcing their values onto others. It never occurred to those kooks that there are Jews or other Christians who go to service on Saturdays or people who are not Judeo-Christian.
They don't care. They are fascists who hide behind the First Amendment to force their values on others.
I think one day, they will have us killed if we burn a Bible. Did you know that the USA is MORE religious than Iran? yeah! We're kookier than they are.
Discuss, yourself.
And remember, the belief in God is not backed by any evidence and as a matter of fact, the historical record shows that its a creation of man. Superstitious nonsense.
And what kills me is that 40% of scientists believe in God. Completely irrational. So much for the theory that science education makes one more rational or logical.
What I want to know is if this academic will dare to question climate 'science' and climate 'scientists'.
Will he point out how it's scientifically questionable to use 'adjusted' data to come to conclusions, for example?
Will he call out the many past climate 'science' predictions that didn't just fail to materialize, but that were totally wrong?
Will he address how left-wing politicians use climate 'science' as a tool to manipulate gullible and fearful left-wing populaces?
Or will he just play it safe and ignore how climate 'science' is shaping up as being one of the biggest debacles in the history of science?
... in mice.
Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
In the era of millennial 'science', that is truly awesome and epic, even if his intent were to the contrary (and if it was, I hope his entitlement-driven meltdown is equally epic). Pretty much all millennial science could be summed up euphemistically and thusly. Bravo.
... in mice ... who were in the BBQ pit with the Bible.
Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
I need some clarification: is "DevNull127", the submitter of this very odd /. submission, an account used by the "James Heathers" individual mentioned in the summary as running the Twitter account being focused on? Is this a case of him trying to bring attention to his own Twitter account?
The real problem here is that scientists and academics resort to way too much fancy gibberish. Instead of explaining concepts that are actually quite simple by using straightforward language, they instead resort to overly-technical terminology derived from little-known languages like Latin and Ancient Greek.
Well, we found the hateful bigot. Let's count the slurs: "fairy tales", "cultists", "screaming", "never occured [sic]", "kooks", "don't care", "facists", "they will have us killed", "... then Iran", "kookier", "superstitious", "irrational"
Congratulations, you're a bigot.
From what I understand, 99% of the mice experiments findings and results also apply to humans because our DNA is so similar. Is this wrong? How often does something affect mice differently than humans?
When I was in university decades ago, the headline then was, "study concludes laboratory research causes cancer in mice".
The root of the strory coming from paper after paper purporting consuming one thingbor anotber caused cancer. No, silly! It's the research, the lab lighting, the little cages and poking and proding that is giving mice cancer, not what they are consuming.
Nice to see the internet finally caught up and updated the joke for a new generation!
Climate scientists don't typically use mouse models if that's what you were asking.
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Millennials tend to have a severe aversion to criticism of any kind, no matter how minor or how true it is. Anyone who has worked with Millennials will know this all too well.
Software code reviews with Millennials are particularly terrible. If you find a bug in their code, it's not unheard of for adult male Ruby or JavaScript programmers in their late 20s to start crying (literally with tears and whimpering) and flee the code review session because their feelings have been 'hurt'.
This total aversion to criticism is a big problem when it comes to science, because criticism and questioning theories are what science is all about. By definition, you can't be doing science if you aren't subjecting all theories and observations to the highest degree of criticism possible.
Most Millennials just can't do real science because they're so afraid of giving and especially receiving criticism. Millennial traits and ideology are wholly incompatible with the scientific method.
True, mice are not humans. At least with mice, you can control the environment. You can even examine the exact physical effects. Mice also grow up faster and can be bred to exhibit symptoms faster, so a human can observe them throughout the experiments.
Compare this with "we found statistically significant correlation between X and Y (over 20-40 years) across 20 people". This is what most published medical science amounts to these days. Absolute bullshit as far as I'm concerned. Also, nearly impossible to reproduce, because it's bullshit.
Have gnu, will travel.
Fuck science
I think the subject of pro-creaton and attempted pro-creation has been heavily studied and published in reliable, peer-reviewed journals.
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Their reaction to my emails that include scans of stuff from the '40s or '50s is often quite interesting. It often goes well past what they think they've discovered and was not adopted for any number of practical reasons the new guys haven't addressed, willfully or otherwise - they might just be dumb.
It also desensitizes people to truly important things. I feel that there would be a lot less backlash to things like climate change if they weren't force fed bullshit nonstop. Thanks in large part to useless science reporting, people believe that science is indecisive and incompetent. I still remembering wtf'ing about the back and forth "eggs are good" "eggs are bad" a couple decades ago.
IMO a reporter needs to have taken courses in stats and spend time doing actual research before being allowed to report it.
Have to get that grant money somehow. See you have 9 boring applicants and 1 applicant whose grant request stands out and is filled with empty buzzwords.
As a corrupt bureaucrat who works in 'grant approval' and only cares about preserving his position which report will you choose?
Remember - we like shiny things that show our dear scientist is 'passionate about his/her work'. Can't have boring scientists around can we?
People could see it and think - wtf are they wasting my money on - buzzwords are a guarantee they will more likely embrace the work as important.
'Humanity' is fucking dumb. Deal with it. :)
Ruby and Javascript programmers are mostly transmen, that's why they cry at the drop of a hat. No one with actual testiscles works with that bullshit. All the male-to-female trannies work at Google and Apple on real-serious-stuff.
IMO a reporter needs to have taken courses in stats and spend time doing actual research before being allowed to report it.
If they had the ability to do real research, they would not be reporters.
At best journalists with PhD experience are third string or burnt out.
I heard him today afternoon on NPR (WABE-Atlanta). Here is a transcript of his show. I think he more than just a few tweets. He actively tries to help identify scientific papers that have errors or outright falsehoods.
https://www.npr.org/2019/02/17/695536889/volunteers-fight-bad-science
Silicon Valley Is Replacing Libertarianism With Socialism, In Mice.
Indeed. When everything is hyped, even scientists have a hard time separating hype from fact. It becomes excessively tiresome.
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
The last common ancestor between humans and mice lived 75 million years ago. As a comparison, the last common ancestor between cows and orcas lived 50 million years ago, but nobody would think it would be a good idea to use cow studies to determine what's best for an orca.
Scientific studies have linked internet cancer inversely to Slashdot article quality. Needless to say, there is now so much internet cancer that it has roused the body of the late Senator Ted Stevens, may he rest in a series of tubes. The Senator's skull was heard saying "chomp chomp chomp" which roughly translates to "cancerous computer plumbing."
It's ok, I've already started a twitter for climate scientists. After every paper, I append, "on earth." "Glaciers melting" on earth. "Oceans rising" on earth. I'm just sick of these ETs getting too hyperbolic misinterpreting the material on their own planet, the heliocentric fools.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
...replicated...
https://science.slashdot.org/story/12/04/06/139231/majority-of-landmark-cancer-studies-cannot-be-replicated
This isn't a joke (the original article), it shows that most 'science' is a waste of time, and much of it is fraudulent.
You don't need to be a researcher in order to read the effing paper beyond headline before you write a news article about it. And you don't have to be a researcher in order to not make shit up that the original paper doesn't actually include.
But they DO use mice ... On computers
When you read those headlines, just remember to add those two words...
"In mice."
So, is this like the new fortune cookie rule? If anyone is still unfamiliar with the fortune cookie rule, you're supposed to add ", in bed" to the end of your fortune.
Now for any research article we're supposed to add ", in Mice" to the end.
"That's the way to do it" - Punch
over-hyping results is a huge disservice to all of humanity.
Sure it is.
Now convince those profiting the most from over-hyping bullshit of this.
Good luck. You would stand a greater chance convincing Kim Kardashian that obscene narcissism is a bad thing.
Seal level to rise to historic levels......in my model.
Nope. Academia is set up to produce *lots* of competent scientists, mostly because grad students and postdocs are cheap, highly skilled labor. About 1% of those get a faculty job somewhere. Some others marry someone with a good enough job that they can entertain their academic habit as a research associate or equivalent. Most of the rest head off to industry, often doing things that are tangentially, or not at all related to their training. But quite a few try to become science popularizers, writing blogs, making YouTube videos, etc. Hire some of them as your science journalists.
When everything is hyped, even scientists have a hard time separating hype from fact. It becomes excessively tiresome, in mice
FTFY
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Can you perform research studies on mice orcan you perform research studies on cows?
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