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Starz Goes on Twitter Meta-Censorship Spree To Cover Up TV-Show Leaks (torrentfreak.com)

American entertainment giant Starz is continuing to remove tweets that link to a TorrentFreak news report about leaked TV-shows. From a report: Last week we posted a news article documenting how several TV-show episodes had leaked online before their official release. Due to the leaks, complete seasons of unreleased TV-shows such as "The Spanish Princess," "Ramy," and "The Red Line," surfaced on pirate sites. In most cases, there were visible signs revealing that the leaks were sourced from promotional screeners. The leaks also hit Starz, as three then-unreleased episodes from its TV series "American Gods" appeared online as well. The American entertainment company was obviously not happy with that, but its response was rather unconventional.

Soon after the news was published, Starz issued a takedown request through The Social Element Agency, requesting Twitter to remove our tweet to our own article. Twitter was quick to comply and removed the tweet that supposedly infringed Starz copyrights. We disagreed. The article in question never linked to any infringing material. It did include a screenshot from a leaked episode, showing the screener watermarks, but those watermarks were central to the story, as we explained in a follow-up piece. The good news is that many legal scholars, journalists, and lawyers agree with our stance. The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), for example, responded that Starz has no right to silence TorrentFreak and also shared that opinion on Twitter, where many others chimed in as well. That's when things started to spiral out of control. Starz takedown efforts only encouraged more people to share the original story about the leaks, which is a classic example of the 'Streisand Effect'. However, Starz didn't budge and issued takedown notices against those tweets as well.

55 comments

  1. Why is twitter lending itself to this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Doesn't this Capitalist American Company have morals of their own or so... right, forget I asked.

    1. Re:Why is twitter lending itself to this? by DickBreath · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Capitalists understand that morals are a valuable resource, and as such have marketable value to be sold to the highest bidder.

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      I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
    2. Re:Why is twitter lending itself to this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As opposed to "kill all the bourgeois because they don't deserve to live" which is moral because why?

    3. Re:Why is twitter lending itself to this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Because being bougie is taking advantage of someone and is therefor fucking evil.

    4. Re:Why is twitter lending itself to this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because being bougie is taking advantage of someone and is therefor fucking evil.

      How about you stop being a patsy and refuse to buy every trinket you see?

  2. The “Starz effect”... by Sebby · · Score: 2

    Take the Streisand effect, and multiply it by six!

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    AC comments get piped to /dev/null
    1. Re: The “Starz effect”... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No let's multiply it by 15. Or wait how about 25? Wink wink nudge nudge, say no more, know what I mean?

    2. Re:The “Starz effect”... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or chop off the last or first 10 minutes of each episode. Far more effective as nobody would bother to watch half an episode when they know it's not complete.

  3. Giant? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Never seen anything made by them - they are at best an analogue to a copyright troll.
    At best they are some bottom feeder distribution company who buys US rights for unpopular shows after they've ran on air to prevent them from being streamed. They just sit on these.

    1. Re:Giant? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So not only do you have no idea what Starz is, you also can't form complete sentences? Gee.

  4. This issue is so easy to mitigate. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Anytime an episode gets leaked, simply re-edit and add a couple more minutes of footage, taking up time that would have been given to promos. Those who watched the leaked version will still have to watch the broadcast version, and it might even help sell more spots.

    1. Re:This issue is so easy to mitigate. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... add a couple more minutes ...

      So there will be some more minutes of ads included then? :p

  5. Leaks or Marketing by alvinrod · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder if this was a "leak" or if this was done intentionally as marketing. Up until this moment I wasn't aware that the show existed. Advertising costs a good amount of money, but why pay for that when you can just leak a little bit of content and then run around screaming about it in the exact kind of way that is guaranteed to draw attention to yourself?

    Can the Streisand Effect be harnessed to achieve greater awareness?

    1. Re:Leaks or Marketing by the_skywise · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's a pretty complex (and random) system you're thinking of.
      If anything I'd say it's more likely that torrentfreak is in bed with Starz - posting the article on Starz' behalf, then Starz gets it taken down, then Torrentleak "blows the whistle".
      Anything else is depending on sheer random luck that someone notices and writes a story on it and then hope that the story gains traction. Your ad dollars are better spent on something with concrete results.
      I mean, taking that out to its logical conclusion - did the EFF leak the videos so Torrentleak would write the article so Starz would clamp down so EFF could get that sweet sweet outrage funding?

      No - I think Starz' "social compliance security team" did their job so that Twitters' "patent and ethics supervisory team" did their job and Torrentleak got burned wrongly because of the short sightedness of both. Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to stupidity - the old adage which is even more true today.

    2. Re:Leaks or Marketing by DRJlaw · · Score: 2, Funny

      If anything I'd say it's more likely that torrentfreak is in bed with Starz - posting the article on Starz' behalf, then Starz gets it taken down, then Torrentleak "blows the whistle".

      It's even more likely that you are in bed with torrentfreak and Starz. Then you go on Slashdot and whip up the conspiracy theory outrage machine to spread the word amongst those who can't be bothered to RTFA while pocketing your filthy, filthy lucre.

      After all, in bed it's the more the merrier...

    3. Re:Leaks or Marketing by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      Someone certainly could have been paid as a part of that. If you assume that Starz did this for marketing purposes, there's no reason that they can't grease a few palms for far less money than it would take to run a full ad campaign. There are plenty of other examples of companies trying to clamp down on stuff in an idiotic (and ultimately pointless) way that tend to get lampooned, so it's not hard to imagine that intentionally engaging in that kind of buffoonery would elicit a similar, and organic response. If it's failing to achieve the desired effect, you can always pay for coverage.

      I have no evidence that Starz has done anything beyond acting the in the typical and foolhardy manner that large media companies tend towards, but having heard nothing of any of these properties, I can't help but wonder if someone has determined that you can get a lot of free publicity through something like this. It's especially effective because it gets around ad blocking.

    4. Re:Leaks or Marketing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to stupidity - the old adage which is even more true today.

      While that may be true in this case (or not), this adage needs to die the death it deserved decades ago. It is unfortunately if something is attributed to malice when it was in fact stupidity, but as recent events should show ANYONE not living inside the right-wing bubble, it is FAR, FAR more dangerous to attribute to stupidity what is in fact malice.

      And these days, there's a ton of obvious malice coming from very low people in very high places. Starz may be idiots, but I think the time when it is safe to assume they're stupid, at not malicious, has long since passed.

    5. Re:Leaks or Marketing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, they wouldn't have leaked all this stuff in advance. Maybe one pilot episode, but NOT entire seasons. Plus, they wouldn't have done it in a way that tied it all to a single reporter by name. And gotten all the episodes tied to a russian casino with ads overlaid.

      No, you are imagining conspiracies where it's most likely incompetence. The reporter probably got phished, or reused creds.

    6. Re:Leaks or Marketing by Kjella · · Score: 1

      I'm not really buying it because all shows have die hard fans that absolutely must know what happens next, it would be taunting paying customers to pirate from torrents. If you've done it once, the threshold to do it again is much lower because you've installed the torrent client, found the pirate site, taken the risk of a copyright strike and convinced yourself it's acceptable. I can kinda see it with music because it's so cheap and the volume so vast it's about who makes noise. But broadcast production quality TV shows cost too much to simply hand them out like free candy and hope people buy more, even the low budget crappy ones.

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    7. Re:Leaks or Marketing by gDLL · · Score: 2

      it is FAR, FAR more dangerous to attribute to stupidity what is in fact malice.

      No it isn't.

      The reverse is true.

    8. Re:Leaks or Marketing by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 1

      I think Starz' "social compliance security team" did their job so that Twitters' "patent and ethics supervisory team" did their job and Torrentleak got burned wrongly because of the short sightedness of both. Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to stupidity - the old adage which is even more true today.

      What was the downside for Starz? Twitter is more likely to take down the tweets (the path of least resistance) than fight the request; if the request is not valid they can leave fighting it up to the person who tweeted it. Most are unlikely to do that and Twitter saves time and money. Sure, a request is a legal document and Starz could be accused of making a false statement; but I have no doubt a decent lawyer colod argue it was made in a good faith belief the tweet violated Starz copyright. Is torrentfreak going to pay to litigate where copyright's boundaries are and argue against Starz? I doubt it. So in the end Starz wins.

      As for the Streisand effect, I doubt much od Starz audience cares about DCNA takedown requests and just wants to see their shows.

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      I'm a consultant - I convert gibberish into cash-flow.
    9. Re:Leaks or Marketing by the_skywise · · Score: 1

      Obviously you are a Starz paid flunky who knows they leaked the videos themselves to get torrentfreak to tweet about it so they could get them bumped from Twitter so slashdot would write an article that I would respond to just so YOU could come on here and take me down!
      Well I hope its WORTH IT!

    10. Re:Leaks or Marketing by the_skywise · · Score: 1

      From a legal standpoint (IANAL) I think the lawyers are just trying to justify their salaries and also that there's some precedence that a leak of this nature is somewhat defendable (if not, at least, necessary on the part of Starz) to show a judge that they aggressively defend their copyrighted works so as not to be slighted in other more egregious cases.
      Totally agree with you that it's a punitive action on the part of Starz (or Starz' lawyers) that would probably not hold up in court but can't be defended without $$$ and time that TorrentFreak would rather not deal with.
      Since we're on a conspiracy theory kick - it might even be that Starz was just looking for a way to silence just TorrentFreak as part of their "war on piracy".

    11. Re: Leaks or Marketing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bootlicking authoritarian shysters sure do love wild conspiracy theories.

    12. Re: Leaks or Marketing by astrofurter · · Score: 2

      "Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to stupidity - the old adage"

      Hanlon's Razor is obsolete. Consider instead using the Silicon Valley Razor:

      "Never attribute to stupidity that which can be adequately explained by malice."

    13. Re: Leaks or Marketing by the_skywise · · Score: 1

      Is that like the 5 cent Razor club?

  6. Maybe stop sending out complete episodes by KalvinB · · Score: 1

    There's really no reason that promotional material would be the full series or even a full episode.

    Chop off the last 10 minutes of each episode so there's no value in it outside of what it is intended for: general review. The ending of an episode is the big reveal anyway that isn't supposed to be spoiled.

    Not that piracy matters anyway. Fans will wait for episodes to air.

    1. Re:Maybe stop sending out complete episodes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Too logical. It'll never happen.

    2. Re:Maybe stop sending out complete episodes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think that's backwards.

      With the trent of ending each episode in a cliffhanger it's the first 10 minutes where the resolve last episode's cliffhanger that's more spoiler-ey.

    3. Re:Maybe stop sending out complete episodes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's really no reason that promotional material would be the full series or even a full episode.

      The reason for that is so reviewers can get the review of the series published on the day the episode is supposed to air or the day afterwards. Its an easy way to promote the show.

  7. Slashdot hypocrisy on censorship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is a story about censorship, while Slashdot is actively deleting comments in this story that they disapprove. While the deleted comments are of low quality, it is still censorship. Moderation was created to avoid censorship and Slashdot was once a bastion of free speech. No longer, as the editors are now deleting lots of posts. It's hypocritical to be deleting comments in an article critical of the censorship of tweets, which are effectively comments. Deleting comments without a valid DMCA takedown notice was once unthinkable, but it's now commonplace on Slashdot. The editors need to come clean about why they're engaging in so much censorship.

    By the way, it obviously takes quite a bit of time to go and delete all these comments. If the editors let moderation do its job and, say, directed that time toward fixing and improving the code that runs this website, Slashdot would be a much better place.

    To summarize, the editors thing it's bad when Starz engages in censorship, but it's good when they do so.

    1. Re:Slashdot hypocrisy on censorship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The editors need to come clean about why they're engaging in so much censorship.

      Arab money.

  8. Nope. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Broadcast networks are in the business of selling ad time. Anything that reduces an audience, also known as the advertising audience, is not desirable.

    And they already have a way of leaking upcoming shows; they are called promos.

  9. Takedowns done by third party takedown entities... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    More Slashdot lies. Takedowns are down by agencies employed by the media giants- and these agencies are paid per takedown notice. Thus 'truthiness' replaces truth (did you know it was Starz that made The Simpsons, not Fox?).

    Takedown agencies are notoriously dishonest, using vague string match algorithms to determine 'infringing' material, then LYING to claim Human oversite tests these hits for validity.

    NSA big Internet assets like Google and Twitter have EXPLICIT policies allowing the so-called 'victim' to be the ultimate arbiter of whether the infringement is actually real. Only when the complainant is small fry and public outrage against the abuse of takedown is massive do the NSA net giants relent. Big media can be proven 100% to be in the wrong, and twitter will still let their takedown stand.

    The usual neoliberal filth will 'remind' you this is not 'censorship' since the censoring is being down by an NSA entity outside a court of Law. It is the constant Orwellian scream of the warmongering Clinton/Obama loving neolibs that corporate censorship ain't 'censorship' no matter how large a percentage of public space these corporations control.

    Of course these vile NSA entities all follow warmongering weaponised-SJW neolib agendas, so of course the neolibs defend them.

    Anyway Starz itself would not issue complaints against these tweets, but sheds no tears when the criminals it employs do so on its behalf.

  10. Anything On STARZ Worth Watching? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Didn't think so

  11. Ah, yes, Starz by elrous0 · · Score: 1

    The one studio whose content remained stubbornly in poor quality SD on Netflix long after everyone else had moved over to HD.

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    SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
  12. Deletion or just moderation? by tepples · · Score: 1

    Since when are comments deleted? Last I checked, only one comment had ever been deleted from Slashdot, and that was in response to a formal notice of claimed infringement from Religious Technology Center, the publishing arm of Scientology. (This is the same sort of notice that the agency retained by Starz has been sending to Twitter.) Unless I'm missing something fundamental, most comments you claim are "deleted" have only been moderated down to score -1. As long as Slashdot isn't in "offline mode" due to server overload, you can change the score threshold if you want to read everything, including the Score:-1 comments.

    1. Re: Deletion or just moderation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One of the comments I saw get deleted was already moderated to -1, then it disappeared altogether. The only explanation is that it was deleted. I'm aware of how moderation works and, as I recall, CmdrTaco was incredibly apologetic about having to delete the scientology comment. However, since the current owners bought the site from DICE, comment deletion has become commonplace. It's inconsistent about which comments get deleted and there doesn't seem to be any sort of consistent policy, but comments are definitely being deleted. Like I said, deleting comments was once unthinkable, but it's become pretty frequent recently.

      I remember sllort's massive thread about editor moderation, which the editors moderated to -1 in its entirety. Despite obviously disapproving of those posts and the hundreds of GNAA posts that would sometimes fill up articles, the editors just moderated them to -1. They believed strongly in free speech, something that doesn't seem all that important to the current management of this site.

      So I ask: if the post is already at -1 and it's not infringing on any copyrights (a smartass comment about the Mueller report isn't copyright infringement), why does the comment need to be deleted?

    2. Re:Deletion or just moderation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see stuff hidden even when browsing at -1. It might be my locked-down firefox, a display bug, since I can use a "parent" hyperlink to pop it out. Or, I've noticed it happen more on very busy (commented) articles.

      As for formal deletes, yeah, no one gives a fuck unless it's CP or something. We're filthy with bots and we're left to burn. I wonder if our pushback (/. beta still fresh in your mind?) to their increased pursuit of... "yield" had anything to do with it.

      Leave the lights on, collect some adbux, step in if there's a liability but otherwise let it LordoftheFlies.

    3. Re: Deletion or just moderation? by astrofurter · · Score: 1

      Yup, I've seen comments deleted as well. Yes, they were wallotext anti-semitic diatribes that were part of a crapflooding campaign. But still, they were deleted, not just modded down.

      An era has ended for Slashdot, and the internet is a poorer place because of it.

    4. Re: Deletion or just moderation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you.

      As the person who started this thread, I just hope that users will speak up and say they value nor deleting comments -- even if it means having crapfloods at -1. I remember when sllort started a thread alleging that editors were moderating comments with unlimited points. It got hundreds of replies and many users lost moderation privileges for modding sllort's comment up. Eventually the editors admitted they were using unlimited mod points in discussions. Editor moderation was controversial then, but many users seem completely okay with comments being deleted now. That's unfortunate.

      CmdrTaco defended anonymous posting on principle, saying it was necessary even though trolls abused it frequently. It seems too many people, including the current owners of this site, are willing to abandon those principles in favor of expediency.

      I ask the editors, if abusive comments aren't at -1, isn't it just as easy to moderate them as it is to delete the comments? And if the comments are at -1, why do they need to be deleted?

  13. Until they pull those episodes, then you're f*cked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your legal stance on your screenshot will be your downfall. All the studio has to do is to never actually release those episodes, then you're completely fucked.

    I'm on the side of the studio here. You should not have that 'screenshot' no matter what as it's not been 'released'. The promo screeners were to select people, which you were not part of.

  14. torrent is still a thing? its 2019 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Torrent is GAUCHE.

  15. Whew by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thank goodness the EFF is there to protect us from STARZ..because banning entire authors' works and personages from Amazon ala the Hollywood Blacklists of the 50s and the systematic removal of speakers and entire POV from universities and social media is, as we learn from EFF's deafening silence on those events, nothing to worry about.

    But STARZ TV ...trash?? Man the ramparts EFF!!!

    1. Re:Whew by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The EFF doesn't pursue violations by its fascist brethren like Universities and Big Tech.

  16. Finally by ThurstonMoore · · Score: 1

    I have a reason to create a twitter account.

  17. Twitter is not your bitch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not your soapbox. It's not your printing press.

  18. Re:Takedowns done by third party takedown entities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dude, you need to adjust your meds.

  19. Censorship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Starz and Twitter hate journalism. Starz and Twitter hate free press. Starz and Twitter censor content, not due to copyright infringement, but rather because it makes them look bad. F*ck Starz. F*ck Twitter.

  20. Counter notice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    File a counter notice

  21. Twitter has MORALS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're implying that Twitter has morals to sell?

    Please provide evidence of this exceptional claim.

    1. Re:Twitter has MORALS? by micheas · · Score: 1

      They boxed them up to make sure they are never used and diminish in value.

  22. Twitter Takedown =/= Silencing by jaa101 · · Score: 1

    The good news is that many legal scholars, journalists, and lawyers agree with our stance. The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), for example, responded that Starz has no right to silence TorrentFreak

    Twitter can take down anything they like, independent of what the EFF et al. say. Maybe Starz advertises on Twitter. Maybe Twitter just thinks that annoying Stars will cause them more trouble than complying with their request. TorrentFreak is not silenced and is free to speak out in many other ways, just as Twitter is free to control content on their own platform. There's no law that platforms have to dishonour take-down requests because they're invalid.