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Lycos Doing mp3 Search Engine
Matt Lee sent us a
story about Lycos
hopping on the mp3 bandwagon
and creating a search engine to find the controversial
music format. The funniest part is that 'mp3' is the second
most search-for word on Lycos. After 'sex'. Anyway I'm
glad to see it.
...if you really think MP3 is a good thing.
Now, I think copying music (whether it's juridically legal or not) is MORALLY wrong...
Interestingly, this is much of the same debate as the UltraHLE story. Read one of the last comments, entitled something like "Piracy DOES hurt", and see for yourself.
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If copying music is juridically (sic) wrong, then how do you suggest an artist moves the music from a 24 track master tape to a CD they can sell? Maybe all musicians should record only one-offs in one take straight to CD and sell them that way.
Copying data is necessary. It's the distribution methods that are currently a bit lacking.
Hooray for Lycos. Hopefully it's one step closer to a system that's fairer for artists and those that enjoy them.
ok, who saw the TV ad for lycos in which the dude searched for "Caludia Schiffer?" I it just me or where they advertising Internet Porn? Just a thought.
Lycos may have just opened a can of worms they don't want. They're going to catch hell from the music biz. I see trouble a' brewin.
lets get this straight
piracy is where you board a ship and kill a bunch of people to get their stuff and ship - copying is where make a duplicate that leavs the every bit the original holder has in tact (and frankley leaves him unharmed, infact it may even improve his reputation). what has he lost - nothing other than a monopoly by where he could put the screws to the rest of us. boo hoo hoo
...using the so-called MP3 technology
uhm, is it just me or has mp3 been proven, therefore taking it out of the "so-called" category?
Is there any doubt that it exists? Should I be detecting any sarcasim here?
--Dave
It's at mp3.lycos.com
http://mp3.fast.no has been operating for a while
now. Looks like the same thing on mp3.lycos.com
So what, they made a search engine. They're not the ones OFFERING THE MUSIC FOR DOWNLOAD. Anyway, i'm not ANTi-MP3, I say HELL WITH CD-IT, MP3-IT!
Porting from vynal to CD, so your soon-to-be extremely valuable collectors items don't lose value or get damaged?
Porting from vynal to your own high-quality format, if you think CDs sound awful?
Transferring selected songs from CDs to tape, for school plays?
Are all these "Morally Wrong"?
Is it so horribly BAD and EVIL for kids to be able to put on school plays, or people to protect their own property?
If not, then maybe the issue isn't quite so black & white.
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
Porting from vynal to CD, so your soon-to-be extremely valuable collectors items don't lose value or get damaged?
Porting from vynal to your own high-quality format, if you think CDs sound awful?
Transferring selected songs from CDs to tape, for school plays?
Are all these "Morally Wrong"?
Is it so horribly BAD and EVIL for kids to be able to put on school plays, or people to protect their own property?
If not, then maybe the issue isn't quite so black & white.
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
Well, theoretically, Lycos' search engine could really be a bad thing. I mean, if the people are offering illegal rips of commercial tracks, couldn't they be taken down as quickly as they're put up.
Of course, that assumes you think downloading such tracks is morally wrong. I see it as recouping almost $1000 in costs spent on CDs with about $200 in worthwhile songs on them. Either way you look at it, MP3 is here to stay and it's going to change how the big labels do biz.
For me, the major advantage of mp3 is being able to get ahold of music you *can* *not* *buy* here in the US. Jpop and HKpop for example.
mp3.lycos.com returned one match for the band "Speed", when I know there are at least 500 sites out there that have their music.
"Reactionaries must be deprived of the right to voice their opinions; only the people have that right." - Mao
You're right. It's bad that people pirate music. Let's ban the MP3 format. While where at it, let's ban and WAV, AIFF, AU too. Oh, and let's not forget RealAudio. And Microsoft's ASF. Oh yeah, and audio casettes. And CD-R's. And just to be safe, let's ban aluminum foil in case anyone gets any ideas about wrapping any around a cylinder and making a crude phonograph. We need to make sure that no one has any access to any means of recording audio, because there's the chance that someone might bootleg some music.
The Lycos MP3 engine just doesn't work all that well for me. Most MP3 sites require a uid/pw login, and an upload/download ratio, so using a browser won't cut it, and the links in the Lycos results don't give enough information.
Check out www.2look4.com for a great way to do MP3 searches.
the best way to get mp3s is Hotline and Hotline 411 Search
there's even open source unix versions of Hotline here
It seems mp3.lycos.com is located in Norway, as was the old mp3.fast.no. So it's firmly out of US jurisdiction.
And, all the MP3 sites you can search for are password-protected. So basically, they should be legal, shouldn't they?
Nice to see the norwegian firm FAST getting their search-engine products out.
Now, when will we be able to pay the artists royalties directly, not having to pay for those big fat record companies? After all, they only get 10 or 20% of the price of a CD in royalties. I want the bits, damnit, not the expensive atoms!!!
Cheers from Norway.
I have been using the BORG mp3 search engine ever since it was #mpeg3 (EFNet) official search engine. Since then the author has greatly improved it, and even aquired a full domain name for it. http://www.audiogalaxy.com is the one I'm talking about.
I'm extremely sick of paying $20 for a CD just to get one (or in rare cases two) songs I like off it. I support MP3 trading, and I suggest that artists sell their individual songs instead of making you pay for shit you dont want to get what you do want.
I'm all for seeing artists earn money from selling their art(music/whatever). If the industries werent so damn greedy, I believe the honor system would work, and that artists would reep wealth from their art.
A Nintendo 64 ROM search engine by Yahoo could bring back UltraHLE's developers.
Heh, one match is one too many for Speed... Gimme Zard, Puffy, or Kawamoto Makoto instead ;)
Well, if you had a clue you'd realize that they're working to wipe out fair use as well....
I see the mp3 movement as a good step in the repossesion of our culture from big media companies.
the only problem with that is that 90% of the mp3's that get passed around out there are the same 90% of crap that floods the media. it sure dosent sound to me like a repossesion of our culture, more like we are playing right into their hands.
By the way, a good starting point for MP3 info is the MP3 page on www.mpeg.org .