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Applix Release Open Source SHELF
RIch writes "Today
at Linux World Applix launched Applix SHELF. SHELF
is a decoupling of the powerful scripting and application
development tools at the heart of their Applixware Office
suite.
This includes Applix Builder their OO visual development tool which supports links to ODBC and relational database sources. "
http://www.aplixware.com is a bad URL
http://www.aplixware.org doesn't seem to work. http://www.applixware.org does, however :)
I'm sorry Applix, but I'm afraid I'm going to leave you. You have good products it's not that.
It is just that when Corel now is entering the Linux market you will loose a hughe marketshare.
Not because your products is poor, just because Corels is better.
Bye Applix, nice knowing you but I'm afraid you are dying.
I guess I'll have to take my books off the shelf and store them on the floor now, at least the non Microsoft books.
VB for linux. Just what we need.
Since this technology already exists, it would be cool if it was integrated into GNOME or KDE, this would give us an office suite that can already do alot of what COM does.
Precisely! Why give a corp an excuse to stick with Mickey$oft?
Since this technology already exists, it would be cool if it was integrated into GNOME or KDE, this would give us an office suite that can already do alot of what COM does.
COM is the one nice thing about Windows programming; within its domain it works and works really well. There are even some brave-but-correct technical choices in its design (like not supporting implementation inheritance); I would be happy is Linux had it.
Neither GNOME and KDE don't look like they will improve substantially over it; they (will) use CORBA, yes, but their object models have the nasty scent of implemented-before-designed to them. I wonder if it would be able to take the XPCOM stuff from Mozilla and build it into
It must also be noted that the GNUStep framework (an implementation of the Openstep framework used on the NEXT) stomps the collective butt of COM, KOM/OpenParts, Baboon, and all those other wimpy object models. Unfortunately it looks like GNUstep is proving that mindshare matters more than technical merit in the free software world as well... :(
Corel WP for Linux better? I can't imagine how that could be. I've tried to write something with WP and it simply refuses to do what I ask it to do. Also it resets the styles back to the default every time I turn my back on it.
I think I'll go back to LaTeX. I don't have that much time to try to make a stupid program do what I want.
Actually Linux does have it. It was ported to Linux a few months back.
Ever had to develop with their Helpdesk crap? God is that ever ugly and buggy. Memory leaks galore put garbage in your DB because they don't have integrity on the DB end, their schema isn't relational and it is just plain slow. Oh ya, and the security model on the DB is wide open after install (not so bad...but why would a helpdesk person need to drop a table or delete part of a helpdesk log?)
Don't even get me started on licensing.
I can't believe they even charge for it... they should have paid US to beta test their warez & find their bugs.
Advertising as an "Enterprise" applicatoin it can handle less than 600 users.
Put us out of our misery Applix and go under.
Their damn marketing guys suckered our imbecile managers into purchasing that crap. WTF should managers pick the warez anyway? We're the ones that hafta make what they want with the *!@# they buy.
Impressions: It's a good start, but it needs some work, not to mention documentation. I'm quite impressed that Applix is releasing this, especially under the genuine LGPL!
:-( Sample apps would be VERY nice.
They do a lot of things in a non-standard way, and a clean-up would be nice.
But as Linux gains more end user applications, this could be a powerful addition to many open source projects.
I haven't tried the language at all - there's basically no programming info included.
Compared to VB, the dialog editor is quite nice. (Of course, compared to VB, *anything* would be nice...) It does lack some annoyances of VB's. I like it overall.
Now I just have to figure out the language and figure out how to embed it in apps. Again, I could see this being a powerful addition to many things.
Thanks Applix!
I'm all choked up. Poor Applixware... they've been jilted by a coward...
doesn't Microsoft have a patent/trademark thingie on "shelf"?
See that "Preview" button?
Actually, GNUstep is just proving that people very much prefer to play with something that is finished enough to be generally usable. I think that when GNUstep gets to the point where you can use it for everyday applications, it will take off quickly. But right now, it's just not complete enough.
My Web Page
They own both domains, just the
"Applixware and ELF use a non-standard widget system. Applix widgets are directly layered on Xlib rather than Xt or any other standard widget model. We made this choice in 1989 before Motif 1.0 was available. Our original plan was to use Motif, but the poor performance and lack of reliability of the 1.0 Beta and 1.0 FCS versions caused us to move away from them.
At this time, Applix would be very interested in partnering with developers interested in replacing the widget system with GNOME widgets and/or other standard systems.
If interested, you can click here and send them an e-mail message.
...Open Source isn't the only answer -- but it's almost always a better value than the alternatives...