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JDK 1.2, Toshiba-IRDA, LJ, Fast Math libs,
jdesbonnet writes "Java 2 SDK preview is available".
There is a bzipped file on his site, but I did not download it.
edgy writes
"According to LinuxHQ,
Toshiba has relented and has released specifications for
IrDA so that Toshiba laptops can use their built-in infrared
ports."
3fer writes "
The site interactive.linuxjournal.com
is now open. Anybody who subscribes to LJ can now search all previous issues via the site. "
It's really worth a visit. Tramm Hudson writes "After quite a long time, Digital (now Compaq) has released
fast math libraries for Linux. Many people have been using DU's (now Tru-64) compilers to take advantage of the faster routines, but this runs afoul of the rather restrictive licensing on the output of the compiler.
The hope is that this signals a possible first step towards releasing the DU compilers for Linux. Possibly one of the most discussed topics on comp.os.linux.alpha is the lack of high performance compilers for Alpha Linux. There is so much computational horsepower in these chips, but egcs just isn't harnessing it... "
Finally ASUGeek writes "Reuters has retracted the satellite crack
story." Update: 03/05 05:55 by S : Now AntiOnline says
Reuters did not retract the story, and NASA's records
indicate the satellite drifted by an abnormally high amount.
Thanks to Kythe.
Blackdown Rocks!!!
me and my computer are both powered by gerbills
Thanks Blackdown!
(3rd post?)
Poor guys. Now that the impeachment is over, news services haven't got anything to publish, and are back to making up boog-a-boo stories.
Now I am back between a Toshiba notebook and CTX. The decicion was going to be so easy...
Too bad you weren't even first dipshit
Or rather maybe Reuters is *on* crack!
Why try to keep messing with java when we already have great fast development tool with Visual Basic. All we need to do is port it to linux and maybe the mac and we dont have to learn another confusing messed up language.
Amen, brother!
Poor guys. Now that the impeachment is over, news services haven't got anything to publish, and are back to making up boog-a-boo stories.
Maybe, but if it wasn't true in the first place, why didn't they sayso? Which leads to two guesses, either something did happen and it's being swept under the carpet, or nobody knows what's going on over there and ended up having to ask everyone else if they knew what was going on before figuring out whether or not there was indeed a hack.
If their governmental systems are anything like the ones here in the US, my vote goes to #2...
Thanks, you gave me a good laugh.
You have a good sense of humour.
- Erwin
In this particular case, Dag was just making a recommendation. He can't force people not to buy Toshiba laptops.
And in general, if the Linux maintainers refuse to include drivers from certain companies with the kernel, well, the GPL allows those companies to distribute the kernel with whatever drivers they wish.
The "power" that the Linux community has over hardware vendors is pretty limited. On the other hand, Slashdot has quite a bit of power - if the story hadn't been published here, I bet Toshiba would still be stonewalling on the driver issue.
I mean, really now. This is what happens when a
PC clone company takes over what was one of the
greatest computer technology companies in the
world.
Could not they have made Digital a "wholly
owned subsidiary" of Compaq? That way they could
have kept the Digital name and we would not have
to see statements like "Even in the early days of
Linux, the engineering staff of Compaq was
contributing code to the Linux community."
I never worked for Digital, but I can imagine
how the "Compaq" engineers must feel when they see
that.
Just who the hell is responsible for the
Presario's case design? It must be the same team
that thunk up "Tru64", because both are cheesy
beyond belief. Just as a comparison, I think
IBM's Aptiva case design is nicely done.
The only possible explanation I can think of
for Compaq's poor taste, is its long exposure to
Microsoft's operating systems.
And Bill Gates invented the internet too.
These big, free market capitalist corporations seem as fast to rewrite history as any Stalinist ever could. Mao Tse Tung was a piker compared to some of these marketing copy writers.
Pretty disturbing really.
I've tried to unsubscribe from this mailing list for days to no avail. Could someone please have mercy on me and remove me from the list. I can't stand this constant flow of nerd news!
Bill S B
"You are responsible for all statements made and acts or omissions that occur while your Subscriber Password is being used."
I'm responsible for what I don't do?
What's that supposed to mean?
My lawyer is in Hawaii.
One could even read it to mean I'm responsible for anyone's acts or omissions. Or is it a typo for "emissions"?
Even more sickening than Compaq's defence of MS and 'their' involvement in the 'early days of Linux' would be this appearing in their literature:
:) )
COMPAQ PDP-10, PDP-11
COMPAQ VAX, MicroVAX
COMPAQ OpenVMS
COMPAQ OSF/1
COMPAQ Alpha
COMPAQ Ultrix (they can keep this one
The list of oxymorons goes on and on...
Digital built its name on technical innovation and excellence (perhaps to a fault) - to see it usurped so savagely by the screwdriver monkey MS-kissing PC-clone maker COMPAQ... can this be for real?
You're right; preserving the legacy and name of Digital by making it a subsidiary would have been preferable... replacing it with the COMPAQ moniker is a mockery of Digital's history.
I've got the .bz2 file here if anyone wants it; it should be a reasonably fast connection.
Personally, I liked: "You agree not to reproduce, [...] without the express prior written consent of SSC."
I'll get to the Java 2 thing tomorrow.
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Exactly! I got my 50CT the month they were released, and have been running Linux on it ever since. However, it's starting to get a bit slow and the disk is full (yes, I know you can get bigger ones, but they're not at all cheap). I've been putting off getting a 110 because of the IR issue. Now, I may well go ahead and get one...
"The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike." -- Delos B. McKown
What is more likely is that HMGovt had some reason to do something unusual with the satellite (observe somewhere else, interferre with other satellites, lauch a mini-satellite, etc) and were a bit pissed off when Fred Bloggs at some observatory started telling all and sundry that the satellite was doing odd things.
Ergo I think the Reuters story is misinformation from HMG to cover some kind of illicit but fully approved use of the satellite- top of my list at the moment is that the Brits are now spying on the Yanks (basically from the news here at the moment it looks like the UK is looking for an excuse to pull out of the Iraq situation as we suspect the USA is using this as a cover for spy operations- but in that case why would NASA pull it's obs data? arguing against myself here, oh dear).
I have no inside knowledge, but I do know that the chaps at GCHQ (10 miles down the road) are VERY CLUED. There is just no way they would have let this happen. We leave millitary fuckups to the Americans, they seem to have much more practice.
(anyway it's arse, not ass, ass is a donkey
Andrew Oakley - www.aoakley.com
Maybe they didn't crack the satellite; maybe they cracked the Reuters wire service?
and it comes with Red Hat
Sash is a simple, standalone, statically linked shell which includes
simplified versions of built-in commands like ls, dd and gzip. Sash
is statically linked so that it can work without shared libraries, so
it is particularly useful for recovering from certain types of system
failures. Sash can also be used to safely upgrade to new versions of
shared libraries.
Yeah...thankyou...
:(
I hope that the FTP mirrors sync up soon though
A consumer or group of consumers can not be accused of being a "trust". If a company will choose not to fulfill the needs od a consumer or a group of consumers, that group has every right to refuse to buy services or goods from the said company.
The buying person does not have the power to force a company to do this or that, except by voting with money.
The driver support issue is very delicate for free software. I support and will always support a boycott to hardware manufacturers that refuse to give away specs OR a working driver (notice I am not for forcing them to give away the specs. I am for forcing them to offer an usable solution). The driver thing is also a point M$ can use to bash Linux (forcing hardware manufacturers NOT to release drivers or specs).
Besides, VAR/Intel deal around the Merced port porves that there are ways to deal with trade secret issues.
"Ok, Trigger, stamp your hoof and tell me how
much is two plus two..."
*thud* *thud* *thud*
...Yes! Now cvs update all my stuff written under
windows.... lets see if it works.
I am happy.
Gnome stole my morning. Damn crashware.
Now I am happy again.
<^>_<(ô ô)>_<^>
now i can upgrade my libretto, instead of finding another manufacturer.
Reminder: it took a brute force approach to get there. Breaking hands is not a reasonable idea...
Baker's Law: Misery no longer loves company. Nowadays it insists on it
http://www.sigsegv.cx/
Poring something that is a bad imitation of stuff that already exists on Unix platforms is not a reasonable idea.
Baker's Law: Misery no longer loves company. Nowadays it insists on it
http://www.sigsegv.cx/
No really.
The last JDK 1.1 release didn't work with glibc 2.1, this one does. Three cheers for blackdown. I was just playing with this stuff too, and I (in a fit of wisdom (read: stupidity) fucked up my libc).. BIG (sarcastic) THANK YOU to RED HAT for not making ANYTHING statically compiled except for ash, rmmod, and insmod. Here's a hint to those making distributions -- Either statically compile or have a statically compiled version lying around (ie rm.static) of rm, cp, ln, and cat. At least.. Thank you.
Jim
If I'm not back again this time tomorrow...
Did Reuters really get it wrong, or is the UK forcing them to cover their ass?
-Cheetah
BASIC is no programming language. I don't think we need such a thing for Linux. Better make a BASIC2* converter (substitute your favorite programming language for *).
;-)
so long
Ray
so long ... ;-)
Ray
I haven't followed the Blackdown JDK proceedings too closely, but wasn't there an issue with the Sun SCSL that disallowed any release prior to passing the full test suite?
(Someone posted here not long ago, re Sun's semi-open licensing: "...if they would change the SCSL to allow Blackdown to make beta releases..." or WTTE)
iSKUNK!
first the new kernel, now the port for jdk 1.2 - all is right with the world.
Now I can finally get around to installing freebuilder.
Wonder how long before the actual release, or more importantly how long before the mirrors actually get the files. Maybe they should have held off announcing till then
Woe be on to them, all who rise against poor people, shall perish in a the end. Buju Banton
You have to keep this in mind, that Microsoft is a big company. And when it comes to antitrust laws, it deals directly with companies/corporations/etc., not individuals. If it were otherwise, I can just see all kinds of screwy things happenning in regards to say, antitrust and voting (sue the other candidate just because he had a better platform?).
/. and others who followed through and complained to Toshiba? They were all potential customers. Its called consumer demand, not "Linux antitrust".
:-).
Linux on the other hand, is not a company. There wasn't a specific vendor kicking up dirt, it was one individual. And it has to do with freedom of speech. He's allowed to say to people that Toshiba was giving him a hard time, and not recommend anyone buy from him.
And what of the people on
As for Linux having a monopoly on hype. Erm. I don't think so. I'd respond to that in more depth, but just the thought of you thinking any *one* thing could monopolize "hype" just makes me laugh
Last but not least, just because people "flexed muscle" doesn't mean its bad. Its called consumers telling a company what they want. Companies after all, should want to know what consumers want, as yes, it will directly affect their profits.
Here is my 2 cents worth :
I moved from the USA to Denmark two years ago.
At the same time, my job focus switched from
Unix to NT Server. This might be why I have
this crazy idea of comparing operating systems
to ways of governing countries.
In my way of thinking, Microsoft is a
lot like a Social Democratic country.
You pay extremely high tax (all in all,
I reckon we pay 75% tax in Denmark).
The government is supposed to provide an
integrated "care bear" package from cradle to
grave. Everybody bitches about deficiencies
and bloat in the implementation of this package.
The state really tries hard to please, but
they can't keep everybody happy all the time.
Linux is a lot like the US. You have to fend
for yourself in a lot of ways, the government
takes care of the roads, printing money and
little else. Everywhere you look, you see
private enterprise and constant evolution,
be it Internet, Hamburgers or Pet Cemetaries.
Having seen both systems (government and OS)
I feel that the American / Linux way is more
agreeable to me. (Many Danes would disagree, and
more power to them.) If there is room enough
for two ways of governing, why shouldn't there
be room for two ways of purchasing Software ?
Oddly enough, Microsoft has an extremely high
marketshare in Denmark from what I've seen.
Belief in authority apparently permeates on
many levels.)
Idiot, you attached your rants
to the wrong thread. It should
have been the "MS claims Linux
bad value" one.
Sorry
Have you given any thought that the linux community might be using anti-trust tactics similar to microsoft and intel. The charges against intel are roughly "support us and we'll give you detailed info on the chips". While admitadly the linux arguement is the reverse "give us detailed info on your chips and we'll support you, if you don't we'll ACTIVELY recommend that people don't support you". This was the tactic used against Toshiba.
Granted, the linux community doesn't have a monopoly when it comes to numbers, there is anything but. But the linux community DOES have a monopoly. Businesses always like to have good publicity, and that means being in the "hype". Currently linux has a monopoly in the computing world where "hype" is concerned. And that was directly used against toshiba. During the last couple of weeks, there have been major announcements of whole companies (even whole software sectors) beginning to support linux. But, at the same time, there was an announcement from the linux community (granted, only from one group but there were no voices against it) stating that the Toshiba platform in general shouldn't be supported. Toshiba risked alienating what may possibly be the biggest computing trend at the turn of the millenium. They couldn't dare oppose that so we FORCED them to support us.
Face it, open source also has a bad side (open sours) that can and will flex it muscle to get what it wants.
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