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Belluzo post-SGI joining Microsoft
Well, it apparents that on the heels of yesterday's announcement about resigning as CEO of SGI, Belluzzo will be reportedly joining Microsoft's interactive operations units.
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Not much loyalty in this computer malarkey is there?
Chris Wareham
so, now we see why he's been driving sgi into the ground...heh
Or should that be 'assimilated'? All these anti-microsoft metaphors can be hard to keep track of.
As for 'loyalty'; much as I dislike microsoft, I think I'll have to leap to the poor chap's defense. I wouldn't work for Microsoft (again), neither would a bunch a people on the list, but that doesn't mean everyone feels the same way. Even if he worked for SGI, we can't assume he feels the level of antipathy some of us do.
Most ms employees are perfectly decent people (although when I was there, none of them knew how to use windows).
So what are the chances that he'll steer microsoft into the gutter and tell them to start using linux instead of NT? ;)
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Did he retuire because he didn't liek the way that SGI is going non-M$?
I think so.
I've always wondered why MS can't seem to make a decent, stable product. Your comment:
I guess that might explain it, eh? If they can't even use their own product...
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Well, he was the man who was behind using NT in SGI on which SGI lost quite a bit. They will not support NT any longer. Good job Belluzo! Bill likes you!
What's their market? On the workstation side NT has the apps and the hardware support. So you have to reboot it once or twice a day, so what, go get a mountain dew while it boots. On the server side, why would you go with SGI over Sun?
First thought "Traitor, begone!" :-)
Second thought: "Microsoft takes care of its own" - Rick B supported the NT strategy in support of MS, it didn't work, Microsoft gave him a position.
Third thought: What kind of position is this? Would you want to be put in charge of MSN et al? It may be an important position from Bill's point of view, and it probably pays pretty well, but frankly I don't think anyone human could fulfill Bill's expectations for the unit.
Maybe Rick just got what he deserved.
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He is smart. He knows were the money is. He also knows were the future is as well.
M$ has utterly trashed every web venture it's gotten itself into. Does anyone here like the hotmail redesign? No one I know likes it. What about sidewalk.com? That used to be a good resource, until M$ took it over and "improved" (read: bloated, commercialized every square inch of, and generally made wreckage of) it.
This move makes me hope that Belluzo had a plaque for his desk that says "Captain of Sinking Ships." Watch for M$ to lose even more money on their "interactive services division" and pin it on this shlub in the very near future.
There is no K5 cabal.
I am not the real rusty.
Perhaps he was contacted by MS to help them deal with the Linux-threat and they need someone to help them out with multimedia anyways. He accepts because he will probably receive a lot of stockoptions and better get them now before the MS shareprice sinks, ie. a path to a good life with a good pension. This is of course pure speculation :-)
The individual's needs must be secondary to the needs of the majority
That's the microsoft design ethos. A bastard variant of democracy - you'll get what the pig ignorant masses want. So quit whining, and welcome to the neo-liberal hell of the future.
Make me glad I'm an elitist bastard.
Chris Wareham
Maybe they will bring back their old cool looking logo. I always wanted a shirt with the framework cube on it.
Two are there always: a master and an apprentice.
I wonder if Microsoft offered Belluzo immunity from rabid SGI buyers, out for blood after the NT fiasco.
Alternatively, it's just possible that Bellizo belives in Microsoft and it's software, and rebelled against the introduction of Linux and the abandoning of NT. Executives of companies have quit in the belief that 20th century technology was supplied by aliens, so it's not an outrageous possibility, as bizare as it might seem.
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
well, one the one hand, he'll be making lot of money and have the distiction of being a M$ employee.
like anders heljborg(sp), the homeboy who created Borland's delphi. he was somewhat embarrassed and apologetic about going to M$, but how could he turn down millions of $$$?
on the other hand, out of the handful of M$ employees i've met, none of them seemed to have a soul or any kind of real spirit. just kind of stood around grinning like the cheshire cat on prozac, with their M$ alligator shirts, riding a constant high from working for the "dominant" s/w corporation.
Considering if the rumor is true, he's only heading up the interactive group.
Who cares about what OS SGI is using, anyways? It's never been about the OS, it's more about the hardware and more importantly, the APPS. SGI has been futzing about with what OS they are going to use...in the end, who CARES? Does it matter? IRIX was never a dream OS...from a UNIX admin standpoint it was nonstandard to the extreme and a pain in the ass. It didn't matter though, the hardware was what made the difference. What I want to know is what major HARDWARE innovations is SGI going to push? What about software...they should push OpenGL like mad and kill off Direct3d. What about apps? Are the major 3d app makers for SGI abandoning ship or are they staying on board? At least Amiga, Inc may have something distinguishing about what they are doing...the Transmeta hardware. THAT gets my attention. Using Linux is secondary. As for Belluzo...yawn. Didn't he come from HP originally? Didn't HP make the idiot blunder of the decade by saying "Hey, we're dropping HPUX and going all Windows NT!" (followed by the quickest backpeddling ever seen in the industry)? Belluzo has a "NT for everything!" mindset. I'm sure he's a perfect fit over at Microsoft. I'd hardly consider him an innovator...the OS does not define the competitive edge. Simply replacing IRIX with NT wasn't going to be the magic formula to get SGI back on track (of course, all the PDA makers still haven't figure out that Wince isn't the magic bullet either..but I digress).
"Perhaps he was contacted by MS to help them deal with the Linux-threat"
Huh? In interactive? Maybe if he was going to the operating systems group... but not interactive.
Microsoft didn't acquire Sidewalk. It was built from the ground up. Perhaps you've heard of Expedia, MSNBC, Slate, or Carpoint? Last I heard they were all #1 in their market...
I wish him as much luck as he had with SGI!
A few months ago, some SGI salesman offered us some of their NT stations. I naively asked if they ran under Linux. The guy was slightly upset and told me that since they sale their NT boxes, everyone is asking about Linux. They cannot put anything else than NT since they have a contract with M$ for this little boxes.
I'll do it for cheesy poofs.
In light of his second career decision -- the one to go to work for the borg -- I'm don't believe he is the right person to head SGI either!
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I do wonder how exactly he meant the statement that he was going to work for a company that doesn't compete with SGI.
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Belluzo also did HPUX -> NT?
I find it interesting and humorous to read the numerous posts and replies on slashdot. Among the many consistent themes are the conspiracies and conspirators that progagate throughout the tech industry. This theme is running on all cylinders with this story, the spectrum covers Belluzzo running SGI in the ground on purpose to a multifaceted attack on Linux by MS.
Before going further, let's agree on one thing: Belluzzo resigned from SGI for a presumably better position elsewhere in the industry... MS according to many reports.
Please take a second to humor me and consider the recent resignation of SGI's Belluzzo from your own career perspective.
1) let's say that you are employed by a company who is struggling to survive, much less take a leadership position, in a stale industry with low margins and fierce competition.
2) you are approached by the leading company in a high profile, media sexy, and wealthy industry.
3) further, you are approached to be the head of a division (essentially a company unto itself) that is struggling to overcome identity and marketing issues, but has the full commitment and resources of its wealthy parent company. In other words, this is a challenge but is doable.
4) you are enticed with cash and stock wealth of much higher certainty than your current position.
What would you do? It's not about loyalty or conspiracy, it's about a fundamental tenet of market economies... freedom to exercise choice
He accelerated SGI's dive into the ground. He's much better in his new junior marketing role.
MOUNTAIN VIEW, CA (August 23, 1999) -- SGI (NYSE: SGI) today announced that Robert Bishop, 56, has been named chairman and chief executive officer effective immediately. He succeeds Richard Belluzzo, who has resigned to accept another position in a business that is not competitive with SGI.
not comptitive with sgi? heeheehee
The Another one lost to the BORG.
A lot of companies, as a condition of being hired, prevent you from going to work for a direct competitor within a certain time frame after leaving. That's probably why he made that statement.
Of all the comments I've ever posted, this is definately one of them
He said he was going to a non-competitor.
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I was wondering what was up with SGI making NT based systems. What a crack headed idea that was. Looks like he's been MS's bitch since day one.
~Kevin
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This guy is a manager. He probably spends his time trying to figure out how to next "reinvent his company", or reading "Zen and the art of mind fucking the customer" or some such nonsense. These people have no morals or virtues. They don't mean anything. Managers spend their lives in the perpetual illusion that they matter. Who cares.
If Bill Joy left Sun for MS THAT would be disturbing.
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as an unix sysadmin with experience with irix, i take severe issue with your assertion that irix is non standard unix. it is KNOWN for being very vanilla unix. irix needs to be defended against baseless accusations, it has been one of finest variants of unix that i have been involved with. it is such a good thing that sgi is contributing amazing technology (xfs, and graphics optimizations) from their irix platform to the linux community. sgi's accomplishments are seen not just in the hardware world, but in the software side as well as seen in irix.
YAACWHBBBM$ (yet another AC who has been brainwashed by M$)
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WOW, so Microsoft can take someone else's designs and (feebly)attempt to improve on them. Lets take a closer look shall we, sports fans?
Expedia: Well, I'll be damned if it isnt Travelocity.com with a powered by M$ sticker on it.
MSNBC: wait a minute, you mean that M$ does the news too? I seriously doubt that they would ever put a spin on anything on that channel. It's called mindshare...any place that they can put their name into they will. Last I checked M$ is a bunch of programmers and marketing people, they are not reporters. They bought a station and a website so that people would recognize the M$ name.
Slate: The stuff that they forgot to put into the MSNBC channel
Carpoint: Wow, another original M$ idea, selling cars on the internet. A search on Altavista for "car dealers" only returns 28,416 returns. Another M$ original production.
Who cares about Sidesquawk and all the other M$ crap that they have crea^H^H^Hcopied. The point of the article in this is that M$'s brainwashed little boy that they planted inside of SGI failed in his conquest to assimilate them. So now M$ is taking him back for reprogramming and is probably going to send him out again in a couple of months once the brainwashing is complete.
If you are going to post about proM$ stuff, check you references, M$ is NOT #1 in those websites. If you are going to get something wrong, at least get it right.
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"If you are going to post about proMS stuff, check you references, MS is NOT #1 in those websites. If you are going to get something wrong, at least get it right."
I did get it right. You didn't.
http://carpoint.msn.com/press/features/mm
http://www.microsof t.com/PressPass/press/1999/Aug99/augexpr.htm (look for "Ranked No. 1 by Media Metrix" in the text)
http://www.msnbc.com/ad_benefits.asp (Again, look for Metrix)
So, sir - perhaps you should check YOU (sic) references...
Expedia: Considering Travelocity wasn't founded until 1997, and Expedia was out in 1996, which would be the first? Check the NIC records.
MSNBC: Do you really have ANY idea what goes on there? Didn't think so. #1 news site for over a year. BTW, it isn't "purchased content", which you seem to be alluding to - MSNBC is a joint venture - read MSNBC, and you'd know that.
Slate: You've obviously never read that either, or you'd realize that it's content is very different than MSNBC (opinions = news in your world???)
Carpoint: Carpoint isn't a car dealer. But if you read it, you'd know that. http://carpoint.msn.com/press/features/mm It was also online LONG before most car dealers had a clue what the internet WAS...
Bob Bishop is a scary looking man to begin with, but the C|net illustration makes him look even more nightmarish. His eyes are so beady and little.
The real conspiracy is that there are NO fundamental tenets of market mindsets, only a supreme Loyalty to money. The choice was taken away from Belluzo when he was taught to crave cash. It doesn't look like a choice so much as a calculation, which doesn't make a person a human so much as an automaton (harmless enough while alone, but wildly dangerous en masse).
You, Mr. Nolan, presume that everyone is playing to $$Win$$ when you so blindly ask, "What would you do?" For some of us, there's a little more to the game...
I swear - the "artists" at News.Com could make Cindy Crawford look bad...
Maybe Micorsoft will drop NT too?
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
Is it just me or do you see a trend here as well. I was thinking about how they (SGI) fired clark their founder and chief technologist, although he was CEO. Funny that the guy that invented the first SGI graphic engine, took the company almost to the top only to be ejected by low lives that say "thank you, we will take from here". Just as a roller coaster ride, these fools take the company right to the top congratulating each other on how smart they are and giving each other bonuses and from there "AAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!" down the roller coaster hill. What a sobering experience seeing Clark move on to founding Netscape it must have been for all the bozos that fired him in the first place. Sometimes I ask myself, are these people RELEVANT? so a low life I had never heard of before, moves on to MS WHO CARES??? MS itself is becoming bloated with these marketroids, running low on imagination and creativity and high on stock options and "working for the right company"... well you fools, it's an empty shell... bill, the only one who was really ensuring that a technology environment thrived at MS DOESN'T CARE ANYMORE. Sales and Marketing are becoming irrelevant mark
I have the balls to put my name to my postings... I didn't see yours...
Managers == overpaid consensus seekers and talking heads
Hmmm ... this may be a bit cheeky coming from a computer contractor like myself, but I have to disagree.
Some of the smartest people in the computer world are still working on the same projects or for the same companies many years down the line. From the early Unix era look at Kernighan, Ritchie, etc. Then there are people like Knuth, James Clark and Larry Wall. All hacking away at their personal masterpieces.
As for the smart IT people you seem to be referring to, they are most likely materialistic contractors working on small scale, repetitive projects or on bug fixes to old systems.
Chris Wareham